Do you feel like they Treat EU players as Second Class Citizens?
Thevampirenight
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Just put this poll out for The Eu players angry.
Edited by Thevampirenight on October 6, 2016 8:45PM PC NA
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Do you feel like they Treat EU players as Second Class Citizens? 84 votes
Yes and its disgraceful its obvious they are biased towards Eu players by merging Eu with the Na selection.
25%
21 votes
No but I think they give more priority to U.S Players and they need to fix getting into the EU Server
21%
18 votes
Yes and its getting very Annoying I don't want to be forced to Login to the U.S Server.
11%
10 votes
No I feel they treat each server the Same and Try to make it easier for us but mess up something doing that.
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35 votes
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Troneon✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes and its disgraceful its obvious they are biased towards Eu players by merging Eu with the Na selection.Yes.
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ThePaleItalian✭✭✭✭✭
✭Poll seems very unbiased as well.Conan, what is good in life?
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✭✭✭✭✭No I feel they treat each server the Same and Try to make it easier for us but mess up something doing that.I would be very, very surprised if it's intentional.
I think it's far more likely this is an oversight. Server switching couldn't be tested on the PTS because there's only one server to choose from there and their internal testers will have to be based in America and would normally use the NA server.
The fact that the one remaining chose on the launcher is marked as NA is obviously an oversight and apart from confusing people who weren't aware of the changes in Update 12 it's a very minor issue.
The fact that the game defaults to NA even when Live-EU is selected is a bug. It's an annoying one sure, but still relatively minor. If that was someone's deliberate attempt to offend all European players by showing that ZOS considers us inferior then either they're too terrified of getting in trouble to do anything worth mentioning or they seriously lack imagination. (And I would have thought anyone who hates Europeans would know a thing or two about treating people like second class citizens.)PC EU player | She/her/hers | PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
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✭No I feel they treat each server the Same and Try to make it easier for us but mess up something doing that.Huh?Wake up, we're here. Why are you shaking? Are you ok? Wake up...0 -
Thevampirenight✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Like this is their solution to one of the problems
You have to change the settings to read region USEntire game (40GB) is being downloaded instead of just the patch (2.3GB)
EU players may find this is happening after the Launcher update is complete. Close the launcher. Navigate to where you have ESO installed on your machine, and open the “Launcher” directory. Open “launcher.settings” in Notepad (or any preferred document editor) and look for the “region”:”EU” entry. Change this to read “region”:”US”, and save the launcher.settings file. The launcher can now be reopened and the patch continued.
If “region” is already set to “US” in settings, then navigate to where you have ESO installed on your machine. If you see a newly-created folder titled “Elder Scrolls Online”, delete that. Then, rename your original folder titled “Elder Scrolls Online EU” to just “Elder Scrolls Online.” When you re-open the launcher, you will download the 2.3GB patch rather than the entire game.
So yeah
Edited by Thevampirenight on October 6, 2016 9:09PMPC NA
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Dracane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭They do.
For example, they only seem to look at US data when determining things.Auri-El is my lord,
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Thevampirenight✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭They do.
For example, they only seem to look at US data when determining things.
Well, thats because they are based in US and also because the US server is accessible to them which the Eu Server is not because its overseas and handled by a different team. So basically not surprised with this.
Pts is based in U.S though so they could not test this without creating a separate EU pts.
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ThePaleItalian✭✭✭✭✭
✭CapnPhoton wrote: »
Here. <raises hand>
*pulls out a roll of ones*
Wonder what /dance you will do first?Conan, what is good in life?
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BrianDavion✭✭✭✭first of all this is a terriable poll. to the point where I'm not answering it as my response is "other" the EU isn't treated as a second class citizen, however ZOS is an American company, so it's going to impact their focus. I suspect that their North American customers also out number their european customers.1
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Totalitarian✭✭✭✭✭I'm just saying, here on NA, we have 2 community managers
EU has 1.
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alpehans✭✭Yes and its disgraceful its obvious they are biased towards Eu players by merging Eu with the Na selection.They're Muricans , what did you expect ?
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BlackEar✭✭✭✭✭No I feel they treat each server the Same and Try to make it easier for us but mess up something doing that.I don't feel as they do.Bjorn Blackbear - Master Angler - Collector - Black Market Mogul - Ebonheart Pact - Exterminatus - EU.
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✭✭✭✭ThePaleItalian wrote: »CapnPhoton wrote: »
Here. <raises hand>
*pulls out a roll of ones*
Wonder what /dance you will do first?
Perhaps something in a traditional May Day style?0 -
Paske✭✭✭✭Yes and its getting very Annoying I don't want to be forced to Login to the U.S Server.Extreemely anoying to login as EU player0
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itehache✭✭✭✭It is annoying to log in now, yes, but wth, "second class citizens"? xD Not even worth to vote, poll is really biased anyway0 -
MasterSpatula✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭While I'm not going to vote in your poorly-worded, biased poll, I will say that I think the general idea has some merit.
As a U.S. player, I find it absolutely appalling that you guys in the EU have the same server maintenance times as us. I've never played an MMO that didn't ripple its downtime across the timezones. I find ZOS' behavior extremely disrespectful to you guys.
But I can't speak to the server thing in the latest update, because I really don't grasp what the change entails.Edited by MasterSpatula on October 6, 2016 11:27PM"A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle3 -
FortheloveofKrist✭✭✭✭✭
✭Wow. Someone needs to read a history book to find out what "second class citizen" means.
Maybe use a less hyperbolic phrase: Digital genocide. Modern day slavery. A contemporary holocaust.
Wait, I think I see the connection. Not being able to win a vacation in New Zealand is indeed very similar to being forced to use separate bathrooms.
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alpehans✭✭Yes and its disgraceful its obvious they are biased towards Eu players by merging Eu with the Na selection.Maybe he ment "second rate customers" , would be a more fitting term.
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Nochalo✭Yes and its getting very Annoying I don't want to be forced to Login to the U.S Server.Just the fact that NA version is written as "Live" and Eu - "Live - EU" says a lot about which one is "main" server."When there's no knowledge in the tops of towers, check the bottoms of bottles."
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LaiTash✭✭✭No but I think they give more priority to U.S Players and they need to fix getting into the EU ServerRegarding maintenance times - they do what they can to reduce losses. It's disrespectful, but they would do this to U.S. people if that would be more optimal. So it's a disrespect to all players, not just EU, if that makes you feel any better.
As for the server change bug - well... it's just a bug, and nothing more to it. Some dowsy coder messed up, happens to everyone. Probably it's not fixed yet because it would need another 8-hour maintenance for whatever reason, and i'll better wait till next monday.0 -
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✭Just wondering... is it that the "Datacentre Upgrade" from last week was actually removing the EU server altogether and merging everything onto the one (US) server so that we only think there are still two...?
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✭✭✭They're Muricans , what did you expect ?
The game was made in the states, what do you expect?
Should I start whining to Capcom because they release their games in Japan first?
You guys are treated more than fair. Rather than whining about it you should be thankful that ZOS has put a great amount of time and resources into your community.
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LaiTash✭✭✭No but I think they give more priority to U.S Players and they need to fix getting into the EU ServerStrider_Roshin wrote: »They're Muricans , what did you expect ?
The game was made in the states, what do you expect?
Should I start whining to Capcom because they release their games in Japan first?
You guys are treated more than fair. Rather than whining about it you should be thankful that ZOS has put a great amount of time and resources into your community.
Like they're doing it for free0
