Waffennacht wrote: »Is this not NoS' build pretty much?
Waffennacht wrote: »So hrm... I like both infallible and elegance. However I wanna know is elegance 5th ability (20% more la and ha) actually more dps than the buffed skoria?
Skoria approximately 10k every 5 secs (let's do this just for quick math) or 2k dps.
20% of 10,000 is 2k, you would need a LA or heavy attack to reach somewhere around that to gain an additional 2k dps right?
Wouldn't adding Skoria, so x5 infallible x2 skoria and then x4 something be better for dps?
RedVyperOfDorne wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »So hrm... I like both infallible and elegance. However I wanna know is elegance 5th ability (20% more la and ha) actually more dps than the buffed skoria?
Skoria approximately 10k every 5 secs (let's do this just for quick math) or 2k dps.
20% of 10,000 is 2k, you would need a LA or heavy attack to reach somewhere around that to gain an additional 2k dps right?
Wouldn't adding Skoria, so x5 infallible x2 skoria and then x4 something be better for dps?
I think a main priority here is focusing most damage towards shock (for sorc), so Illambris will definitely be better.
The Elegance set is OK but the crit on Infal is really nice, however if you have 100% Infal up time on a boss in a trial already, then elegant is possibly better. Currently I'm hitting 16.7k heavy attack ticks, if you negate the 800 bonus from infal, its sub 16k. If you add elegant to this, it's 19k+. Yet to test which would be best.
hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »RedVyperOfDorne wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »So hrm... I like both infallible and elegance. However I wanna know is elegance 5th ability (20% more la and ha) actually more dps than the buffed skoria?
Skoria approximately 10k every 5 secs (let's do this just for quick math) or 2k dps.
20% of 10,000 is 2k, you would need a LA or heavy attack to reach somewhere around that to gain an additional 2k dps right?
Wouldn't adding Skoria, so x5 infallible x2 skoria and then x4 something be better for dps?
I think a main priority here is focusing most damage towards shock (for sorc), so Illambris will definitely be better.
The Elegance set is OK but the crit on Infal is really nice, however if you have 100% Infal up time on a boss in a trial already, then elegant is possibly better. Currently I'm hitting 16.7k heavy attack ticks, if you negate the 800 bonus from infal, its sub 16k. If you add elegant to this, it's 19k+. Yet to test which would be best.
your 16.7 heavy attack ticks are fully buffed, meaning that 903 from infal is buffed by CP, crit, lightning damage buffs, etc...youd be losing a lot more than 900 per tick...my guess is between 2 and 4k per tick...
RedVyperOfDorne wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »RedVyperOfDorne wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »So hrm... I like both infallible and elegance. However I wanna know is elegance 5th ability (20% more la and ha) actually more dps than the buffed skoria?
Skoria approximately 10k every 5 secs (let's do this just for quick math) or 2k dps.
20% of 10,000 is 2k, you would need a LA or heavy attack to reach somewhere around that to gain an additional 2k dps right?
Wouldn't adding Skoria, so x5 infallible x2 skoria and then x4 something be better for dps?
I think a main priority here is focusing most damage towards shock (for sorc), so Illambris will definitely be better.
The Elegance set is OK but the crit on Infal is really nice, however if you have 100% Infal up time on a boss in a trial already, then elegant is possibly better. Currently I'm hitting 16.7k heavy attack ticks, if you negate the 800 bonus from infal, its sub 16k. If you add elegant to this, it's 19k+. Yet to test which would be best.
your 16.7 heavy attack ticks are fully buffed, meaning that 903 from infal is buffed by CP, crit, lightning damage buffs, etc...youd be losing a lot more than 900 per tick...my guess is between 2 and 4k per tick...
There he is! Yeah those 16.7k ticks are my bloodspawn ticks so just puncture and pots. You re-bloodspawned your new setup man? I've got a pretty nice rotation down for the heavy attack build I wanna talk to you about and then a one tam drop that I wanna try out (I'm on xbox).
Waffennacht wrote: »Is this not NoS' build pretty much?
RedVyperOfDorne wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »RedVyperOfDorne wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »So hrm... I like both infallible and elegance. However I wanna know is elegance 5th ability (20% more la and ha) actually more dps than the buffed skoria?
Skoria approximately 10k every 5 secs (let's do this just for quick math) or 2k dps.
20% of 10,000 is 2k, you would need a LA or heavy attack to reach somewhere around that to gain an additional 2k dps right?
Wouldn't adding Skoria, so x5 infallible x2 skoria and then x4 something be better for dps?
I think a main priority here is focusing most damage towards shock (for sorc), so Illambris will definitely be better.
The Elegance set is OK but the crit on Infal is really nice, however if you have 100% Infal up time on a boss in a trial already, then elegant is possibly better. Currently I'm hitting 16.7k heavy attack ticks, if you negate the 800 bonus from infal, its sub 16k. If you add elegant to this, it's 19k+. Yet to test which would be best.
your 16.7 heavy attack ticks are fully buffed, meaning that 903 from infal is buffed by CP, crit, lightning damage buffs, etc...youd be losing a lot more than 900 per tick...my guess is between 2 and 4k per tick...
There he is! Yeah those 16.7k ticks are my bloodspawn ticks so just puncture and pots. You re-bloodspawned your new setup man? I've got a pretty nice rotation down for the heavy attack build I wanna talk to you about and then a one tam drop that I wanna try out (I'm on xbox).
jakeedmundson wrote: »RedVyperOfDorne wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »RedVyperOfDorne wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »So hrm... I like both infallible and elegance. However I wanna know is elegance 5th ability (20% more la and ha) actually more dps than the buffed skoria?
Skoria approximately 10k every 5 secs (let's do this just for quick math) or 2k dps.
20% of 10,000 is 2k, you would need a LA or heavy attack to reach somewhere around that to gain an additional 2k dps right?
Wouldn't adding Skoria, so x5 infallible x2 skoria and then x4 something be better for dps?
I think a main priority here is focusing most damage towards shock (for sorc), so Illambris will definitely be better.
The Elegance set is OK but the crit on Infal is really nice, however if you have 100% Infal up time on a boss in a trial already, then elegant is possibly better. Currently I'm hitting 16.7k heavy attack ticks, if you negate the 800 bonus from infal, its sub 16k. If you add elegant to this, it's 19k+. Yet to test which would be best.
your 16.7 heavy attack ticks are fully buffed, meaning that 903 from infal is buffed by CP, crit, lightning damage buffs, etc...youd be losing a lot more than 900 per tick...my guess is between 2 and 4k per tick...
There he is! Yeah those 16.7k ticks are my bloodspawn ticks so just puncture and pots. You re-bloodspawned your new setup man? I've got a pretty nice rotation down for the heavy attack build I wanna talk to you about and then a one tam drop that I wanna try out (I'm on xbox).
I'm curious to know what your rotation and build is compared to what i posted?
your heavy attacks are literally ticking for twice what mine do...
did some testing on a mammoths and giants in wrothgar and just buffing with surge and holding heavy attack on them non stop... i couldn't see ticks above 10k.... not once. (actually closer to 8-9k average)
I would REALLY like to make this work because i hate dealing with sustain issues when i use the usual overload build - julianos or tbs + IA or willpower + insert monster set here.
My 2 cents:
Sharpened inferno staff
5 pc elegant
5 pc Vicious Death
Front Bar:
Force pulse, daedric curse, mages wrath, frags + inner light.
Start an ambush by procing frag with either curse or inner light, charge upp full heavy attack and release with a following frag.
Drops most non heavy to execute range.
If it's not enough, while they are downed by frag, curse + full HA Followed by proc or pulse!
Rince and repeat, I love it.
hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »RedVyperOfDorne wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »RedVyperOfDorne wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »So hrm... I like both infallible and elegance. However I wanna know is elegance 5th ability (20% more la and ha) actually more dps than the buffed skoria?
Skoria approximately 10k every 5 secs (let's do this just for quick math) or 2k dps.
20% of 10,000 is 2k, you would need a LA or heavy attack to reach somewhere around that to gain an additional 2k dps right?
Wouldn't adding Skoria, so x5 infallible x2 skoria and then x4 something be better for dps?
I think a main priority here is focusing most damage towards shock (for sorc), so Illambris will definitely be better.
The Elegance set is OK but the crit on Infal is really nice, however if you have 100% Infal up time on a boss in a trial already, then elegant is possibly better. Currently I'm hitting 16.7k heavy attack ticks, if you negate the 800 bonus from infal, its sub 16k. If you add elegant to this, it's 19k+. Yet to test which would be best.
your 16.7 heavy attack ticks are fully buffed, meaning that 903 from infal is buffed by CP, crit, lightning damage buffs, etc...youd be losing a lot more than 900 per tick...my guess is between 2 and 4k per tick...
There he is! Yeah those 16.7k ticks are my bloodspawn ticks so just puncture and pots. You re-bloodspawned your new setup man? I've got a pretty nice rotation down for the heavy attack build I wanna talk to you about and then a one tam drop that I wanna try out (I'm on xbox).
I'm curious to know what your rotation and build is compared to what i posted?
your heavy attacks are literally ticking for twice what mine do...
did some testing on a mammoths and giants in wrothgar and just buffing with surge and holding heavy attack on them non stop... i couldn't see ticks above 10k.... not once. (actually closer to 8-9k average)
I would REALLY like to make this work because i hate dealing with sustain issues when i use the usual overload build - julianos or tbs + IA or willpower + insert monster set here.
The reason your build isnt working that well is because of several factors.
1. Your CP is mostly in staff expert, while staff damage will only take around 30% of your damage. Another thing you have to consider is lightning staff heavy attacks are buffed by Thaumaturge, Ele expert AND staff expert. Your other skills will only benefit from ele expert and thaum, thus to maximize your damage you should focus on ele expert and thaum.
2. Your rotation. Rotation here is key, after literslly hours of testing different skills I have to say that the one I have in my build is pretty optimized. Using surge is a dps loss so I wouldnt include it in my rotation if yoi are doing an endgame build. For casual play its fine.
jakeedmundson wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »RedVyperOfDorne wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »RedVyperOfDorne wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »So hrm... I like both infallible and elegance. However I wanna know is elegance 5th ability (20% more la and ha) actually more dps than the buffed skoria?
Skoria approximately 10k every 5 secs (let's do this just for quick math) or 2k dps.
20% of 10,000 is 2k, you would need a LA or heavy attack to reach somewhere around that to gain an additional 2k dps right?
Wouldn't adding Skoria, so x5 infallible x2 skoria and then x4 something be better for dps?
I think a main priority here is focusing most damage towards shock (for sorc), so Illambris will definitely be better.
The Elegance set is OK but the crit on Infal is really nice, however if you have 100% Infal up time on a boss in a trial already, then elegant is possibly better. Currently I'm hitting 16.7k heavy attack ticks, if you negate the 800 bonus from infal, its sub 16k. If you add elegant to this, it's 19k+. Yet to test which would be best.
your 16.7 heavy attack ticks are fully buffed, meaning that 903 from infal is buffed by CP, crit, lightning damage buffs, etc...youd be losing a lot more than 900 per tick...my guess is between 2 and 4k per tick...
There he is! Yeah those 16.7k ticks are my bloodspawn ticks so just puncture and pots. You re-bloodspawned your new setup man? I've got a pretty nice rotation down for the heavy attack build I wanna talk to you about and then a one tam drop that I wanna try out (I'm on xbox).
I'm curious to know what your rotation and build is compared to what i posted?
your heavy attacks are literally ticking for twice what mine do...
did some testing on a mammoths and giants in wrothgar and just buffing with surge and holding heavy attack on them non stop... i couldn't see ticks above 10k.... not once. (actually closer to 8-9k average)
I would REALLY like to make this work because i hate dealing with sustain issues when i use the usual overload build - julianos or tbs + IA or willpower + insert monster set here.
The reason your build isnt working that well is because of several factors.
1. Your CP is mostly in staff expert, while staff damage will only take around 30% of your damage. Another thing you have to consider is lightning staff heavy attacks are buffed by Thaumaturge, Ele expert AND staff expert. Your other skills will only benefit from ele expert and thaum, thus to maximize your damage you should focus on ele expert and thaum.
2. Your rotation. Rotation here is key, after literslly hours of testing different skills I have to say that the one I have in my build is pretty optimized. Using surge is a dps loss so I wouldnt include it in my rotation if yoi are doing an endgame build. For casual play its fine.
http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/noss-highly-improbable-but-possibly-workable-sorc-build/
This build?
so i should try dropping the staff expert cp... focus more on the usual cp allocations
the only thing i hate doing is using potions for a build... plus, how are you surviving with no self heal and no ward? Just relying on healers doesn't usually end well for me in vet trials I can avoid a lot of things but you're GOING to take damage constantly. I'm not knocking your build at all btw, just curious and asking questions.
Edit: would using kena be worth it here until illambris comes into play? or is procing kena a pain in the A with lightning staff?
hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »RedVyperOfDorne wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »RedVyperOfDorne wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »So hrm... I like both infallible and elegance. However I wanna know is elegance 5th ability (20% more la and ha) actually more dps than the buffed skoria?
Skoria approximately 10k every 5 secs (let's do this just for quick math) or 2k dps.
20% of 10,000 is 2k, you would need a LA or heavy attack to reach somewhere around that to gain an additional 2k dps right?
Wouldn't adding Skoria, so x5 infallible x2 skoria and then x4 something be better for dps?
I think a main priority here is focusing most damage towards shock (for sorc), so Illambris will definitely be better.
The Elegance set is OK but the crit on Infal is really nice, however if you have 100% Infal up time on a boss in a trial already, then elegant is possibly better. Currently I'm hitting 16.7k heavy attack ticks, if you negate the 800 bonus from infal, its sub 16k. If you add elegant to this, it's 19k+. Yet to test which would be best.
your 16.7 heavy attack ticks are fully buffed, meaning that 903 from infal is buffed by CP, crit, lightning damage buffs, etc...youd be losing a lot more than 900 per tick...my guess is between 2 and 4k per tick...
There he is! Yeah those 16.7k ticks are my bloodspawn ticks so just puncture and pots. You re-bloodspawned your new setup man? I've got a pretty nice rotation down for the heavy attack build I wanna talk to you about and then a one tam drop that I wanna try out (I'm on xbox).
I'm curious to know what your rotation and build is compared to what i posted?
your heavy attacks are literally ticking for twice what mine do...
did some testing on a mammoths and giants in wrothgar and just buffing with surge and holding heavy attack on them non stop... i couldn't see ticks above 10k.... not once. (actually closer to 8-9k average)
I would REALLY like to make this work because i hate dealing with sustain issues when i use the usual overload build - julianos or tbs + IA or willpower + insert monster set here.
The reason your build isnt working that well is because of several factors.
1. Your CP is mostly in staff expert, while staff damage will only take around 30% of your damage. Another thing you have to consider is lightning staff heavy attacks are buffed by Thaumaturge, Ele expert AND staff expert. Your other skills will only benefit from ele expert and thaum, thus to maximize your damage you should focus on ele expert and thaum.
2. Your rotation. Rotation here is key, after literslly hours of testing different skills I have to say that the one I have in my build is pretty optimized. Using surge is a dps loss so I wouldnt include it in my rotation if yoi are doing an endgame build. For casual play its fine.
http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/noss-highly-improbable-but-possibly-workable-sorc-build/
This build?
so i should try dropping the staff expert cp... focus more on the usual cp allocations
the only thing i hate doing is using potions for a build... plus, how are you surviving with no self heal and no ward? Just relying on healers doesn't usually end well for me in vet trials I can avoid a lot of things but you're GOING to take damage constantly. I'm not knocking your build at all btw, just curious and asking questions.
Edit: would using kena be worth it here until illambris comes into play? or is procing kena a pain in the A with lightning staff?
Its healer's job to heal you, if you cant trust in them thats a problem, but thats why you keep ward, outside of that you wont need much healing since youll be at range and not a lot of damage there.
I dont like Kena for any build, so no I wouldnt go with it.
jakeedmundson wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »RedVyperOfDorne wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »RedVyperOfDorne wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »So hrm... I like both infallible and elegance. However I wanna know is elegance 5th ability (20% more la and ha) actually more dps than the buffed skoria?
Skoria approximately 10k every 5 secs (let's do this just for quick math) or 2k dps.
20% of 10,000 is 2k, you would need a LA or heavy attack to reach somewhere around that to gain an additional 2k dps right?
Wouldn't adding Skoria, so x5 infallible x2 skoria and then x4 something be better for dps?
I think a main priority here is focusing most damage towards shock (for sorc), so Illambris will definitely be better.
The Elegance set is OK but the crit on Infal is really nice, however if you have 100% Infal up time on a boss in a trial already, then elegant is possibly better. Currently I'm hitting 16.7k heavy attack ticks, if you negate the 800 bonus from infal, its sub 16k. If you add elegant to this, it's 19k+. Yet to test which would be best.
your 16.7 heavy attack ticks are fully buffed, meaning that 903 from infal is buffed by CP, crit, lightning damage buffs, etc...youd be losing a lot more than 900 per tick...my guess is between 2 and 4k per tick...
There he is! Yeah those 16.7k ticks are my bloodspawn ticks so just puncture and pots. You re-bloodspawned your new setup man? I've got a pretty nice rotation down for the heavy attack build I wanna talk to you about and then a one tam drop that I wanna try out (I'm on xbox).
I'm curious to know what your rotation and build is compared to what i posted?
your heavy attacks are literally ticking for twice what mine do...
did some testing on a mammoths and giants in wrothgar and just buffing with surge and holding heavy attack on them non stop... i couldn't see ticks above 10k.... not once. (actually closer to 8-9k average)
I would REALLY like to make this work because i hate dealing with sustain issues when i use the usual overload build - julianos or tbs + IA or willpower + insert monster set here.
The reason your build isnt working that well is because of several factors.
1. Your CP is mostly in staff expert, while staff damage will only take around 30% of your damage. Another thing you have to consider is lightning staff heavy attacks are buffed by Thaumaturge, Ele expert AND staff expert. Your other skills will only benefit from ele expert and thaum, thus to maximize your damage you should focus on ele expert and thaum.
2. Your rotation. Rotation here is key, after literslly hours of testing different skills I have to say that the one I have in my build is pretty optimized. Using surge is a dps loss so I wouldnt include it in my rotation if yoi are doing an endgame build. For casual play its fine.
http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/noss-highly-improbable-but-possibly-workable-sorc-build/
This build?
so i should try dropping the staff expert cp... focus more on the usual cp allocations
the only thing i hate doing is using potions for a build... plus, how are you surviving with no self heal and no ward? Just relying on healers doesn't usually end well for me in vet trials I can avoid a lot of things but you're GOING to take damage constantly. I'm not knocking your build at all btw, just curious and asking questions.
Edit: would using kena be worth it here until illambris comes into play? or is procing kena a pain in the A with lightning staff?
Its healer's job to heal you, if you cant trust in them thats a problem, but thats why you keep ward, outside of that you wont need much healing since youll be at range and not a lot of damage there.
I dont like Kena for any build, so no I wouldnt go with it.
got it... thank you for the input! very helpful... i'll give this another go tonight with some changes thrown in the mix.
would be nice to see those lightning staff ticks hitting for more than 8-9k!
hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »RedVyperOfDorne wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »RedVyperOfDorne wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »So hrm... I like both infallible and elegance. However I wanna know is elegance 5th ability (20% more la and ha) actually more dps than the buffed skoria?
Skoria approximately 10k every 5 secs (let's do this just for quick math) or 2k dps.
20% of 10,000 is 2k, you would need a LA or heavy attack to reach somewhere around that to gain an additional 2k dps right?
Wouldn't adding Skoria, so x5 infallible x2 skoria and then x4 something be better for dps?
I think a main priority here is focusing most damage towards shock (for sorc), so Illambris will definitely be better.
The Elegance set is OK but the crit on Infal is really nice, however if you have 100% Infal up time on a boss in a trial already, then elegant is possibly better. Currently I'm hitting 16.7k heavy attack ticks, if you negate the 800 bonus from infal, its sub 16k. If you add elegant to this, it's 19k+. Yet to test which would be best.
your 16.7 heavy attack ticks are fully buffed, meaning that 903 from infal is buffed by CP, crit, lightning damage buffs, etc...youd be losing a lot more than 900 per tick...my guess is between 2 and 4k per tick...
There he is! Yeah those 16.7k ticks are my bloodspawn ticks so just puncture and pots. You re-bloodspawned your new setup man? I've got a pretty nice rotation down for the heavy attack build I wanna talk to you about and then a one tam drop that I wanna try out (I'm on xbox).
I'm curious to know what your rotation and build is compared to what i posted?
your heavy attacks are literally ticking for twice what mine do...
did some testing on a mammoths and giants in wrothgar and just buffing with surge and holding heavy attack on them non stop... i couldn't see ticks above 10k.... not once. (actually closer to 8-9k average)
I would REALLY like to make this work because i hate dealing with sustain issues when i use the usual overload build - julianos or tbs + IA or willpower + insert monster set here.
The reason your build isnt working that well is because of several factors.
1. Your CP is mostly in staff expert, while staff damage will only take around 30% of your damage. Another thing you have to consider is lightning staff heavy attacks are buffed by Thaumaturge, Ele expert AND staff expert. Your other skills will only benefit from ele expert and thaum, thus to maximize your damage you should focus on ele expert and thaum.
2. Your rotation. Rotation here is key, after literslly hours of testing different skills I have to say that the one I have in my build is pretty optimized. Using surge is a dps loss so I wouldnt include it in my rotation if yoi are doing an endgame build. For casual play its fine.
http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/noss-highly-improbable-but-possibly-workable-sorc-build/
This build?
so i should try dropping the staff expert cp... focus more on the usual cp allocations
the only thing i hate doing is using potions for a build... plus, how are you surviving with no self heal and no ward? Just relying on healers doesn't usually end well for me in vet trials I can avoid a lot of things but you're GOING to take damage constantly. I'm not knocking your build at all btw, just curious and asking questions.
Edit: would using kena be worth it here until illambris comes into play? or is procing kena a pain in the A with lightning staff?
Its healer's job to heal you, if you cant trust in them thats a problem, but thats why you keep ward, outside of that you wont need much healing since youll be at range and not a lot of damage there.
I dont like Kena for any build, so no I wouldnt go with it.
got it... thank you for the input! very helpful... i'll give this another go tonight with some changes thrown in the mix.
would be nice to see those lightning staff ticks hitting for more than 8-9k!
This is a guildie running the build on a sorc:
http://imgur.com/a/aMIdj 21k+ heavies:)
jakeedmundson wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »RedVyperOfDorne wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »RedVyperOfDorne wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »So hrm... I like both infallible and elegance. However I wanna know is elegance 5th ability (20% more la and ha) actually more dps than the buffed skoria?
Skoria approximately 10k every 5 secs (let's do this just for quick math) or 2k dps.
20% of 10,000 is 2k, you would need a LA or heavy attack to reach somewhere around that to gain an additional 2k dps right?
Wouldn't adding Skoria, so x5 infallible x2 skoria and then x4 something be better for dps?
I think a main priority here is focusing most damage towards shock (for sorc), so Illambris will definitely be better.
The Elegance set is OK but the crit on Infal is really nice, however if you have 100% Infal up time on a boss in a trial already, then elegant is possibly better. Currently I'm hitting 16.7k heavy attack ticks, if you negate the 800 bonus from infal, its sub 16k. If you add elegant to this, it's 19k+. Yet to test which would be best.
your 16.7 heavy attack ticks are fully buffed, meaning that 903 from infal is buffed by CP, crit, lightning damage buffs, etc...youd be losing a lot more than 900 per tick...my guess is between 2 and 4k per tick...
There he is! Yeah those 16.7k ticks are my bloodspawn ticks so just puncture and pots. You re-bloodspawned your new setup man? I've got a pretty nice rotation down for the heavy attack build I wanna talk to you about and then a one tam drop that I wanna try out (I'm on xbox).
I'm curious to know what your rotation and build is compared to what i posted?
your heavy attacks are literally ticking for twice what mine do...
did some testing on a mammoths and giants in wrothgar and just buffing with surge and holding heavy attack on them non stop... i couldn't see ticks above 10k.... not once. (actually closer to 8-9k average)
I would REALLY like to make this work because i hate dealing with sustain issues when i use the usual overload build - julianos or tbs + IA or willpower + insert monster set here.
The reason your build isnt working that well is because of several factors.
1. Your CP is mostly in staff expert, while staff damage will only take around 30% of your damage. Another thing you have to consider is lightning staff heavy attacks are buffed by Thaumaturge, Ele expert AND staff expert. Your other skills will only benefit from ele expert and thaum, thus to maximize your damage you should focus on ele expert and thaum.
2. Your rotation. Rotation here is key, after literslly hours of testing different skills I have to say that the one I have in my build is pretty optimized. Using surge is a dps loss so I wouldnt include it in my rotation if yoi are doing an endgame build. For casual play its fine.
http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/noss-highly-improbable-but-possibly-workable-sorc-build/
This build?
so i should try dropping the staff expert cp... focus more on the usual cp allocations
the only thing i hate doing is using potions for a build... plus, how are you surviving with no self heal and no ward? Just relying on healers doesn't usually end well for me in vet trials I can avoid a lot of things but you're GOING to take damage constantly. I'm not knocking your build at all btw, just curious and asking questions.
Edit: would using kena be worth it here until illambris comes into play? or is procing kena a pain in the A with lightning staff?
Its healer's job to heal you, if you cant trust in them thats a problem, but thats why you keep ward, outside of that you wont need much healing since youll be at range and not a lot of damage there.
I dont like Kena for any build, so no I wouldnt go with it.
got it... thank you for the input! very helpful... i'll give this another go tonight with some changes thrown in the mix.
would be nice to see those lightning staff ticks hitting for more than 8-9k!
This is a guildie running the build on a sorc:
http://imgur.com/a/aMIdj 21k+ heavies:)
Seeing those stats is reassuring to me... definitely giving this a go. But i dont' have any moondancer stuff so i'll have to fill it in with elegant or maybe julianos/tbs would be better to pair with IA?
hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »RedVyperOfDorne wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »RedVyperOfDorne wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »So hrm... I like both infallible and elegance. However I wanna know is elegance 5th ability (20% more la and ha) actually more dps than the buffed skoria?
Skoria approximately 10k every 5 secs (let's do this just for quick math) or 2k dps.
20% of 10,000 is 2k, you would need a LA or heavy attack to reach somewhere around that to gain an additional 2k dps right?
Wouldn't adding Skoria, so x5 infallible x2 skoria and then x4 something be better for dps?
I think a main priority here is focusing most damage towards shock (for sorc), so Illambris will definitely be better.
The Elegance set is OK but the crit on Infal is really nice, however if you have 100% Infal up time on a boss in a trial already, then elegant is possibly better. Currently I'm hitting 16.7k heavy attack ticks, if you negate the 800 bonus from infal, its sub 16k. If you add elegant to this, it's 19k+. Yet to test which would be best.
your 16.7 heavy attack ticks are fully buffed, meaning that 903 from infal is buffed by CP, crit, lightning damage buffs, etc...youd be losing a lot more than 900 per tick...my guess is between 2 and 4k per tick...
There he is! Yeah those 16.7k ticks are my bloodspawn ticks so just puncture and pots. You re-bloodspawned your new setup man? I've got a pretty nice rotation down for the heavy attack build I wanna talk to you about and then a one tam drop that I wanna try out (I'm on xbox).
I'm curious to know what your rotation and build is compared to what i posted?
your heavy attacks are literally ticking for twice what mine do...
did some testing on a mammoths and giants in wrothgar and just buffing with surge and holding heavy attack on them non stop... i couldn't see ticks above 10k.... not once. (actually closer to 8-9k average)
I would REALLY like to make this work because i hate dealing with sustain issues when i use the usual overload build - julianos or tbs + IA or willpower + insert monster set here.
The reason your build isnt working that well is because of several factors.
1. Your CP is mostly in staff expert, while staff damage will only take around 30% of your damage. Another thing you have to consider is lightning staff heavy attacks are buffed by Thaumaturge, Ele expert AND staff expert. Your other skills will only benefit from ele expert and thaum, thus to maximize your damage you should focus on ele expert and thaum.
2. Your rotation. Rotation here is key, after literslly hours of testing different skills I have to say that the one I have in my build is pretty optimized. Using surge is a dps loss so I wouldnt include it in my rotation if yoi are doing an endgame build. For casual play its fine.
http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/noss-highly-improbable-but-possibly-workable-sorc-build/
This build?
so i should try dropping the staff expert cp... focus more on the usual cp allocations
the only thing i hate doing is using potions for a build... plus, how are you surviving with no self heal and no ward? Just relying on healers doesn't usually end well for me in vet trials I can avoid a lot of things but you're GOING to take damage constantly. I'm not knocking your build at all btw, just curious and asking questions.
Edit: would using kena be worth it here until illambris comes into play? or is procing kena a pain in the A with lightning staff?
Its healer's job to heal you, if you cant trust in them thats a problem, but thats why you keep ward, outside of that you wont need much healing since youll be at range and not a lot of damage there.
I dont like Kena for any build, so no I wouldnt go with it.
got it... thank you for the input! very helpful... i'll give this another go tonight with some changes thrown in the mix.
would be nice to see those lightning staff ticks hitting for more than 8-9k!
This is a guildie running the build on a sorc:
http://imgur.com/a/aMIdj 21k+ heavies:)
Seeing those stats is reassuring to me... definitely giving this a go. But i dont' have any moondancer stuff so i'll have to fill it in with elegant or maybe julianos/tbs would be better to pair with IA?
You can do what we do now - 5 TBS 5 Infal...thats the build that did those screenshots
RedVyperOfDorne wrote: »
RedVyperOfDorne wrote: »
I think it is better with a mageblade. Especially wth a flame staff (since you can go full heavy attack out of nowhere)
WillhelmBlack wrote: »I used similar (I don't have infallible tho') last night on vHRC, decent AoE DPS and Overload LA was hitting up to 44k on the Warrior. I've always wondered if Bound Armaments is worth a look to?