The trait research time is too loooooooooooooong

raidentenshu_ESO · September 2016

Still waiting for my 8th trait research to be completed.........

strikeback1247 · September 2016

9th trait is 30 days :^)

RoyalPink06 · September 2016

Agreed, its pretty ridiculous. Been playing and keeping up on researching since PS4 launch - still waiting on the last few pieces, so that's like, what, another 3 or 4 months? lol

GilGalad · September 2016

Twice born star (9 traits) is one of the most powerful sets in the game, so don't expect to be able to craft it by urself after a few weeks.

In the meantime you might have to pay a crafter to do it for you, but I think that's good and fair, since you can't make much gold by being a crafter apart from crafting dailies.

Unsent.Soul · September 2016

RoyalPink06 wrote: »

Agreed, its pretty ridiculous. Been playing and keeping up on researching since PS4 launch - still waiting on the last few pieces, so that's like, what, another 3 or 4 months? lol

I've played since launch on xbox (same release date) and have 9 traits on everything.

Passives to reduce time and keeping up on it makes the world of difference.

Researching is a 1 time thing. It's fine how long it takes. Makes you work for something, if they changed it now, that'd be a spit in the face for all of us that didn't complain and just went with it.

Bryanonymous · September 2016

Loyalty reward.

ArchMikem · September 2016

I dont even care about traits 7 - 9. As long as i can craft Hundings/Julianos im content.

Hempyre · September 2016

Ya, way to long, and with crafted gear not really hitting BiS there's not much motivation or reason to incure the cost both in gold and time to hit 9 trait.

380 ish hours right now on my crafter for one, just one, of three training slots for each of the three primary crafts.

Ridiculous.

wayfarerx · September 2016

Took me almost two years to get 9/9/9 because I was kinda lackadaisical about it. Keep at it your time will come

Unsent.Soul · September 2016

Hempyre wrote: »

Ya, way to long, and with crafted gear not really hitting BiS there's not much motivation or reason to incure the cost both in gold and time to hit 9 trait.

380 ish hours right now on my crafter for one, just one, of three training slots for each of the three primary crafts.

Ridiculous.

If you don't need it, like you proclaim, then why are you complaining about it?

seebra · September 2016

people nowadays don't have patience

Kavatchian · September 2016

I agree. It should allow more research slots. Maybe 3 light, 3 med, 3 hev, and 3 weapons? This would at least shorten it by a few months.

Nestor · September 2016

If you focus on the 7 pieces of armor and the weapons you use, it does not take all that much time. It's getting to 9/9 in everything that takes a long time.

Research with a plan and it will get done sooner than you think.

Hempyre · September 2016

I'm not complaining about it. I'm adding my opinion to a thread about it. It is my right to purge, granted to me by the founding fathers.. wait, ***, wrong topic..

Seriously though, I would prefer that craftable sets competed a little better against dropped gear, and I'm assuming, based on the way updates seem to go, that at some point that pendulum will swing back the other way.

I have no issue with there being a challenge to reach top tier crafting ability, but the reward should be commensurate with the effort, and in this case there is little effort required, merely an excessive time sink. It shouldn't be instantaneous, but nor should it take the time it does for no particular reason.

nine9six · September 2016

No, it's not.

Sallington · September 2016

Between research and mount training, this game is not kind to the procrastinators lol

Chillic · September 2016

No worries, I am almost done on all three. Once I am finished, they will change it to make me :'(

I_killed_Vivec · September 2016

It's not as if it stops you from playing the game while you "research" traits.

PS4_ZeColmeia · September 2016

Im on my last 3 in cloth and black, full disclosure, so I might be a bit biased but I actually like it. It makes it more meaningful to get and helps separate the economy a bit. That said, it definitely sucks when you first start but once you get about a month in you should be 4 traits nearly across the board. This makes you able to easily craft lower level gear easily.

it's not till you get about CP 150 that start to REALLY care about end game gear. IMHO, based on my own experience playing 1 character only, it will take you about 5 months or so to do. If you didn't change your mind tooo much on the way there, you could be 9 traits in the set and 5 pieces you need in 9 traits by then.

After that you start playing the master crafter, different builds, different setups game. That's when it really sux and you will hate it because nothing is quick at that point. The relief is that this happens while in and out of game so you can live life outside of ESO while the traits run.

The only thing I can tell you to do is really really plan your gear and alternate items accordingly because finding out something that would adjust your trait assignments will really make you want to choke someone.

AntMan100673 · September 2016

Hempyre wrote: »

Ya, way to long, and with crafted gear not really hitting BiS there's not much motivation or reason to incure the cost both in gold and time to hit 9 trait.

380 ish hours right now on my crafter for one, just one, of three training slots for each of the three primary crafts.

Ridiculous.

The only real cost is for the nirncrux. It takes a long time but I wouldn't really count that as a cost as you just start the research and then leave it.

Are you saying you've only got 1 research slot for each craft after playing for 380 hours? If so, then unless you've really got no interest in crafting you're doing something wrong. Deconstruct all gear you find that you don't want, do writs, research traits. The inspiration soon adds up to get you researching 2 then 3 items at once and with reduced times

Acharnor · September 2016

I've been playing since beta and am still researching medium pieces, just need nirn now. I forget about it and then have to go hunting pieces for research or get someone to make it for me to research.

TheShadowScout · September 2016

Nah, the research timers are fine. Yeah, it does take ages in the end... but that is okay, you just let it run while you play. The passives halp a lot there...

UltimaJoe777 · September 2016

Just started the last 6 traits to research yesterday. Will be done in under 27 days

Hempyre · September 2016

I have three training slots per, it states that in my post. Hitting 9th traits across the board takes an excessive amount of time. I prefer to finish it as a personal accomplishment, but I don't see much of a purpose, nor any challenge to it, It's just a time sink. There's almost no market anymore with the vet to CP changes.

I make my own training gear of course, but it takes a couple days to hit 50 and with the changes from vet level to straight CP, there's no point to crafting anything but top tier, and even with that, it gets you ok ish gear but primarily a starter set to get dropped gear. Hardly worth the time sink.

Slightly different point but similar, enchanting is a primary example of the negative effect of vet to CP changes. I have tons of useless runes and the ability to make dozens of enchants under CP160, however they are useless except to brand new players that havent capped CP. There's simply no market or reason to make them any more. Much like most of the crafted sets.

If there was a larger market, as it was with vet levels, crafted gear could be sold at a variety of levels making crafting potentially more profitable, hence worth doing.

wenchmore420b14_ESO · September 2016

I started serious researching month after launch, May 2014. Finished 9th trait in last research June 2015. Yup, 1 year, 1 month. But! The awesome feeling of accomplishment cannot be expressed! It's like "Master Angler". It takes time and dedication, but you feel like you earned it. We even had a forum post at that time on who would hit 9/9 traits first. Lol. Wasn't me, but, heh, I was close.

ThePaleItalian · September 2016

Hempyre wrote: »

I have three training slots per, it states that in my post. Hitting 9th traits across the board takes an excessive amount of time. I prefer to finish it as a personal accomplishment, but I don't see much of a purpose, nor any challenge to it, It's just a time sink. There's almost no market anymore with the vet to CP changes.

I make my own training gear of course, but it takes a couple days to hit 50 and with the changes from vet level to straight CP, there's no point to crafting anything but top tier, and even with that, it gets you ok ish gear but primarily a starter set to get dropped gear. Hardly worth the time sink.

Slightly different point but similar, enchanting is a primary example of the negative effect of vet to CP changes. I have tons of useless runes and the ability to make dozens of enchants under CP160, however they are useless except to brand new players that havent capped CP. There's simply no market or reason to make them any more. Much like most of the crafted sets.

If there was a larger market, as it was with vet levels, crafted gear could be sold at a variety of levels making crafting potentially more profitable, hence worth doing.

I was kind of with you until you said "It gets you okish gear but primarily a starter set to get you dropped gear"... You know alot of really powerful sets are crafted only right?

phairdon · September 2016

Still got a long time to go, to finish clothing trait research

My own fault though.

Phinix1 · September 2016

Bryanonymous wrote: »

Loyalty reward.

So much this.

idk · September 2016

@raidentenshu_ESO

Trait research times are fine. I've researched all traits on everything so I speak from experience. Many in the game have put their time in. No reason anyone should have it easier.

4 points to Reduce research time. Subscribe to reduce it even further. Fabulous.

Karivaa · September 2016

Ya I wish I had started researching when I started the game.

Unsent.Soul · September 2016

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

Hempyre wrote: »

I have three training slots per, it states that in my post. Hitting 9th traits across the board takes an excessive amount of time. I prefer to finish it as a personal accomplishment, but I don't see much of a purpose, nor any challenge to it, It's just a time sink. There's almost no market anymore with the vet to CP changes.

I make my own training gear of course, but it takes a couple days to hit 50 and with the changes from vet level to straight CP, there's no point to crafting anything but top tier, and even with that, it gets you ok ish gear but primarily a starter set to get dropped gear. Hardly worth the time sink.

Slightly different point but similar, enchanting is a primary example of the negative effect of vet to CP changes. I have tons of useless runes and the ability to make dozens of enchants under CP160, however they are useless except to brand new players that havent capped CP. There's simply no market or reason to make them any more. Much like most of the crafted sets.

If there was a larger market, as it was with vet levels, crafted gear could be sold at a variety of levels making crafting potentially more profitable, hence worth doing.

I was kind of with you until you said "It gets you okish gear but primarily a starter set to get you dropped gear"... You know alot of really powerful sets are crafted only right?

Cough** Kags, TBS **cough