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Will we ever see/fight dragons in ESO...
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Bit of a nerdy/geeky question...I know there are some really smart folks here whom have access to information on upcoming game features...
I was in IC a bunch this weekend and kept seeing those dragon shadows on the ground from the few flying way up in the sky...
just wondering if anyone has any info on whether we will ever see/fight dragons in eso...
I was in IC a bunch this weekend and kept seeing those dragon shadows on the ground from the few flying way up in the sky...
just wondering if anyone has any info on whether we will ever see/fight dragons in eso...
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✭It wouldn't fit the lore of the game if they added dragons. The 'dragons' in IC are daedric titans, not real dragons. They are still badass though :^)P.A.W.S. - Positively Against Wild Sasquatches - NO TO BIGFOOT!7 -
mb10✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭No and I hope not either. Would be incredibly lore breaking and would mean most of Skyrim's story is BS.
Won't be happening I can assure you.8 -
Pinja✭✭✭✭titans, the only other two that fit in the lore are paarthurnax & if they add the soul cairn durnehviir. Even then you couldn't defeat either of them.0 -
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✭I don't care if ever have them, I do not think we should. However..... I will give up my first born for a titan mount.Conan, what is good in life?
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✭✭✭✭✭thanks..just found the timeline - http://www.ign.com/wikis/elder-scrolls-online/Elder_Scrolls_Timeline ...oh man - said with heavy heart...i don't think i can do another play through of skyrim...PVP Campaigns Section: Playstation NA and EU (Gray Host) - This Must be the Place0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Yeah, unfortunately the lore is pretty clear on the point that there are no dragons around at the time this game is set. And as far as I know there aren't any other dragon-like creatures in Tamriel.
But maybe if we ever get to see the other continents one of them might have dragons, or something that looks like a dragon.PC EU player | She/her/hers | PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
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✭✭✭✭✭Yeah, unfortunately the lore is pretty clear on the point that there are no dragons around at the time this game is set. And as far as I know there aren't any other dragon-like creatures in Tamriel.
But maybe if we ever get to see the other continents one of them might have dragons, or something that looks like a dragon.
thanks, just that glimmer of hope brought a smile to me
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✭✭✭How about after One Tamriel drops some Dragon that is actually alive during the time period in which ESO takes place occasionally flies over a specific part of any faction-based zone, breathes fire upon any players in the area, and said players have to run for their lives because the dragon is unkillable and a random death event?
In the meantime we will keep killing Daedric Titans
Edited by UltimaJoe777 on September 20, 2016 9:56PMGuildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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geonsocal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »How about after One Tamriel drops some Dragon that is actually alive during the time period in which ESO takes place occasionally flies over a specific part of any faction-based zone, breathes fire upon any players in the area, and said players have to run for their lives because the dragon is unkillable and a random death event?
In the meantime we will keep killing Daedric Titans
I used to love it in skyrim when random groups of assassin's would show up to kill you...
after treading trodden trails for a long, long time - it's good to have a little randomness...PVP Campaigns Section: Playstation NA and EU (Gray Host) - This Must be the Place0 -
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✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »How about after One Tamriel drops some Dragon that is actually alive during the time period in which ESO takes place occasionally flies over a specific part of any faction-based zone, breathes fire upon any players in the area, and said players have to run for their lives because the dragon is unkillable and a random death event?
In the meantime we will keep killing Daedric Titans
I used to love it in skyrim when random groups of assassin's would show up to kill you...
after treading trodden trails for a long, long time - it's good to have a little randomness...
We kind of get that already, but making it any closer to what Skyrim does requires mobs be able to roam more freely around zones without resetting.Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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✭✭✭✭✭I saw somewhere that you play outta ps4/na - hope to run into ya some day PVP Campaigns Section: Playstation NA and EU (Gray Host) - This Must be the Place0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭There ARE dragons alive at this time. But they are few and they are hiding. My favourite example is poor Mirmulnir. The poor guy went in hiding at least a couple of centuries ago (give or take some decades, I didn't look up the exact date) and will only show up again on E4 201, when one of the first mortals he bumps into happens to be the last Dragonborn. Talk about bad luck.
It wouldn't be lore-breaking to see a dragon in the game. Like, ONE dragon, or another extremely low number. For example, Paarthurnax is alive and his location is known in-universe.
What would be lore-breaking:
1 - Dragon mounts. Not only because there are not supposed to be a big number of dragons around, but also because of the very nature of dragons.
2 - Slaying dragons left and right. There simply isn't that many dragons up and about right now.
Edited for grammar.Edited by Abeille on September 20, 2016 11:59PMJust so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
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✭✭✭There ARE dragons alive at this time. But they are few and they are hiding. My favourite example is poor Mirmulnir. The poor guy went in hiding at least a couple of centuries ago (I give or take some decades, I didn't look up the exact date) and will only show up again on E4 201, when one of the first mortal he bumps into happens to be the last Dragonborn. Talk about bad luck.
It wouldn't be lore-breaking to see a dragon in the game. Like, ONE dragon, or another extremely low number. For example, Paarthurnax is alive and his location is known in-universe.
What would be lore-breaking:
1 - Dragon mounts. Not only because there are not supposed to be a big number of dragons around, but also because of the very nature of dragons.
2 - Slaying dragons left and right. There simply isn't that many dragons up and about right now.
We are also not Dragonborn.Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »There ARE dragons alive at this time. But they are few and they are hiding. My favourite example is poor Mirmulnir. The poor guy went in hiding at least a couple of centuries ago (I give or take some decades, I didn't look up the exact date) and will only show up again on E4 201, when one of the first mortal he bumps into happens to be the last Dragonborn. Talk about bad luck.
It wouldn't be lore-breaking to see a dragon in the game. Like, ONE dragon, or another extremely low number. For example, Paarthurnax is alive and his location is known in-universe.
What would be lore-breaking:
1 - Dragon mounts. Not only because there are not supposed to be a big number of dragons around, but also because of the very nature of dragons.
2 - Slaying dragons left and right. There simply isn't that many dragons up and about right now.
We are also not Dragonborn.
The Blades used to slay dragons by themselves, though.Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
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Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
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✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »There ARE dragons alive at this time. But they are few and they are hiding. My favourite example is poor Mirmulnir. The poor guy went in hiding at least a couple of centuries ago (I give or take some decades, I didn't look up the exact date) and will only show up again on E4 201, when one of the first mortal he bumps into happens to be the last Dragonborn. Talk about bad luck.
It wouldn't be lore-breaking to see a dragon in the game. Like, ONE dragon, or another extremely low number. For example, Paarthurnax is alive and his location is known in-universe.
What would be lore-breaking:
1 - Dragon mounts. Not only because there are not supposed to be a big number of dragons around, but also because of the very nature of dragons.
2 - Slaying dragons left and right. There simply isn't that many dragons up and about right now.
We are also not Dragonborn.
The Blades used to slay dragons by themselves, though.
Well if they ever make a DLC centered around joining The Blades then we can talk dragon slaying. In the meantime, not happening lolGuildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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BenLocoDete✭✭✭Nafaalilargus is a red dragon and loyal soldier to Tiber Septim who just might be alive at this time. And Paarthurnax, of course, but there may be others in rare, secluded locations. It won't break the lore, but add to it, not like half a dozen characters in Skyrim living a thousand years past this time knew everything there is to know about dragons in the whole existance of Tamriel.
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americansteel✭✭✭✭a possibility but there have been noo dragon encounters in tamriel recorded during ESO time frame.
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✭Do you guys even read the in-game books? THERE IS DRAGONS ALIVE IN OUR ERA AND DURING THE ALLIANCE WAR.
From the Atlas of the Dragons (written in 2E 373, ESO takes place 2E 582~2E 583)
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Known to Live
Ahbiilok - Sightings dating back to the early years of the Dragonguard throughout the northern Jerralls. Multiple attempts to kill him have failed. He is believed to be lairing somewhere in Morrowind.
Mirmulnir - Last sighted in the Reach in 2E 212.
Nahfahlaar - Repeated alliances with mortal protectors which have prevented his elimination. His last known protector was the King Casimir II of Wayrest, which the Dragonguard successfully ended in 2E 369. He escaped and current location is unknown.
Paarthurnax - The legendary lieutenant of Alduin in the Dragon War. He is now known to lair on the Throat of the World under the protection of the Greybeards of High Hrothgar. Master Araidh continues the established policy of avoiding direct confrontation with the Greybeards while waiting for an opportunity to exact justice upon him."
There is dragons, they are alive, and it's LOREWISE TO PUT THEM IN THE GAME.
FOR THE EIGHT AND YET TO BE BORN LORD AND SAVIOR TALOS.Edited by Milvan on September 20, 2016 10:59PM“Kings of the land and the sky we are; proud gryphons.” Stalker stands, the epitome of pride. Naked and muscular, his wings widen and his feet dig in as if he alone holds down the earth and supports the heavens, keeping the two ever separate.”
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✭✭✭✭✭Do you guys even read the in-game books? THERE IS DRAGONS ALIVE IN OUR ERA AND DURING THE ALLIANCE WAR.
From the Atlas of the Dragons (written in 2E 373, ESO takes place 2E 582~2E 583)
"(...)
Known to Live
Ahbiilok - Sightings dating back to the early years of the Dragonguard throughout the northern Jerralls. Multiple attempts to kill him have failed. He is believed to be lairing somewhere in Morrowind.
Mirmulnir - Last sighted in the Reach in 2E 212.
Nahfahlaar - Repeated alliances with mortal protectors which have prevented his elimination. His last known protector was the King Casimir II of Wayrest, which the Dragonguard successfully ended in 2E 369. He escaped and current location is unknown.
Paarthurnax - The legendary lieutenant of Alduin in the Dragon War. He is now known to lair on the Throat of the World under the protection of the Greybeards of High Hrothgar. Master Araidh continues the established policy of avoiding direct confrontation with the Greybeards while waiting for an opportunity to exact justice upon him."
There is dragons, they are alive, and it's LOREWISE TO PUT THEM IN THE GAME.
FOR THE EIGHT AND YET TO BE BORN LORD AND SAVIOR TALOS.
just so everyone knows - i'm doing a little dance (orc style) in my office after reading this...
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✭✭Technically Talos of Atmora had a Dragon if I recall correctly, and there are a SCARCE FEW alive, such as Paarthurnax and such, at hidden and hard to reach places in the world. It would not be something they could idly put in, it would have to be entirely unique if they put in a dragon, only ONE dragon probably in the lifetime of this game.
However, as pointed out, we have Daedric Titans to fight which are enough like dragons for me."Your mistake is you begged for your life, not for mercy. I will show you there are many fates worse than death."
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✭✭✭✭✭I will HATE if Dragons are added to ESO for any fight. Incredibly lore-breaking.
HOWEVER
If we were somehow transported into the past, or the bones of a Dragon were resurrected in Mephala's Realm or Clockwork City by some strange means with an interesting story, I could get behind that! It cannot be natural at all, and must be through some special means to fight us that never could've been recorded.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭okay, I don't wanna rock the boat here - i'm cool, I can live without dragons in eso...
I'm drawing a blank though on the Daedric titans...are those the gargoyle like creature in the IC district?PVP Campaigns Section: Playstation NA and EU (Gray Host) - This Must be the Place0 -
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✭I will HATE if Dragons are added to ESO for any fight. Incredibly lore-breaking.
HOWEVER
If we were somehow transported into the past, or the bones of a Dragon were resurrected in Mephala's Realm or Clockwork City by some strange means with an interesting story, I could get behind that! It cannot be natural at all, and must be through some special means to fight us that never could've been recorded.
It's not lore breaking, as I quoted above, there is official documents issued by an official institution (the Blades) stating that there is dragons alive and they DO interact with people.“Kings of the land and the sky we are; proud gryphons.” Stalker stands, the epitome of pride. Naked and muscular, his wings widen and his feet dig in as if he alone holds down the earth and supports the heavens, keeping the two ever separate.”
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✭✭✭✭✭No. This has come up so many times that it's one of my copy/paste posts.
From where ESO is taking place in the 2nd era, there are no known dragons on Tamriel. All other Elder Scrolls titles take place after the timeline of ESO, and their history documents that dragons are believed to have been eradicated during the Dragon War. They are believed to be extinct until their reappearance in the 201st year of the 4th era. You can't introduce dragons into the 2nd era timeline of ESO without breaking the lore of pretty much the entire Elder Scrolls universe.Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Auri-el's light guys, stop saying there are no dragons in the second era, that's wrong .-.Edited by Abeille on September 20, 2016 11:44PMJust so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.3 -
Milvan✭✭✭✭✭
✭No. This has come up so many times that it's one of my copy/paste posts.
From where ESO is taking place in the 2nd era, there are no known dragons on Tamriel. All other Elder Scrolls titles take place after the timeline of ESO, and their history documents that dragons are believed to have been eradicated during the Dragon War. They are believed to be extinct until their reappearance in the 201st year of the 4th era. You can't introduce dragons into the 2nd era timeline of ESO without breaking the lore of pretty much the entire Elder Scrolls universe.
@Reverb
You might take a look on this and update your c/p thing:Do you guys even read the in-game books? THERE IS DRAGONS ALIVE IN OUR ERA AND DURING THE ALLIANCE WAR.
From the Atlas of the Dragons (written in 2E 373, ESO takes place 2E 582~2E 583)
"(...)
Known to Live
Ahbiilok - Sightings dating back to the early years of the Dragonguard throughout the northern Jerralls. Multiple attempts to kill him have failed. He is believed to be lairing somewhere in Morrowind.
Mirmulnir - Last sighted in the Reach in 2E 212.
Nahfahlaar - Repeated alliances with mortal protectors which have prevented his elimination. His last known protector was the King Casimir II of Wayrest, which the Dragonguard successfully ended in 2E 369. He escaped and current location is unknown.
Paarthurnax - The legendary lieutenant of Alduin in the Dragon War. He is now known to lair on the Throat of the World under the protection of the Greybeards of High Hrothgar. Master Araidh continues the established policy of avoiding direct confrontation with the Greybeards while waiting for an opportunity to exact justice upon him."
There is dragons, they are alive, and it's LOREWISE TO PUT THEM IN THE GAME.
FOR THE EIGHT AND YET TO BE BORN LORD AND SAVIOR TALOS.
“Kings of the land and the sky we are; proud gryphons.” Stalker stands, the epitome of pride. Naked and muscular, his wings widen and his feet dig in as if he alone holds down the earth and supports the heavens, keeping the two ever separate.”
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RelicAssassinSoul ShrivenMy friend and I were just talking about this and I even told him that it wasn't possible due to lore. But as @Milvan pointed out I was wrong. So here is what I suggest...
Perhaps ZOS could take a page from Dragons Dogma and implement a type of Ur-Dragon style event that required a large number of people. The Dragons could be used as a type of endgame event battle. Have it be set in an arena/cave/destroyed town, and a set number(say 72, 24 per alliance) could que. Once there all three alliances fight it at once until they defeated it(fight difficulty would be on par with vMSA). Maybe even use this as a way to get our 3rd master weapons Also whichever alliance causes the most damage to it could buff their whole alliance for like an hour with exp bonuses, discounts at merchants, or something similar.
Idk I just want a huge event with a lot of people...and I miss DD
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