New XP Scrolls!

Paulington · September 2016

Hey all!

In the patch notes you may have noticed that ZOS put some new consumables on the templates, well they include some new potions and some new XP scrolls.

There are 50%, 100% and 150% variants and they are clearly from Crown Crates, likely rarely received from Crown Crates I would imagine. There are also "spellcaster" and "warrior" potions which are Crown store equivalents of crafted sorcery/brutality potions and they are worse than crafted pots to stay in line with the Crown Store ethos.

The only question I have right now is for @ZOS_GinaBruno and that is the core Crown Store ethos of "It will always be items worse than what you can craft". Where do the 100% and 150% XP boosts come into this? Will these become craftable? If not then it oversteps the bounds of your original ethos.

Elsonso · September 2016

Paulington wrote: »

Will these become craftable? If not then it oversteps the bounds of your original ethos.

I would be surprised if it was not easily crafted in the game, much the same way the sun coming up is surprising.

MissBizz · September 2016

Wow Paulington thanks for pointing me here! I hop on and off all day at work so I missed this thread completely. I'm surprised at the very little traction it has gained so far though.

This most definitely needs to be looked at. It is directly against what we have been told.

AzraelKrieg · September 2016

The standard crown scroll gives 50% boost for 2 hours. The one pictured gives 150% boost for 30 minutes. I find that to be reasonable. Plus the chances of actually getting it since it is a crown crate item is probably quite low.

Paulington · September 2016

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

The standard crown scroll gives 50% boost for 2 hours. The one pictured gives 150% boost for 30 minutes. I find that to be reasonable. Plus the chances of actually getting it since it is a crown crate item is probably quite low.

It lasts the same amount of time as a crafted XP pot (30 minutes) but gives 100% more XP. It's pretty irrelevant how rare it is as the fact it even exists oversteps the original Crown Store ethos.

They need to be craftable or you have stuff on the Crown Store that's better than in-game.

Dracane · September 2016

You are seeing experience scrolls, I see blasphemy and herecy

"Created by a priestess of Meridia, for whom time is relative"
Time=Auri-El
Ignoring time=Ignoring Auri-El
Ignoring Auri-El=Ignorance
Ignorance= 1 week in my torture chamber.

Who is responsive for this work of blashpemy ? Meridia is the only daedric lord, that I can respect, due to her noble goals.
But I doubt, that a mere priestess of hers can escape time. If Meridia can do it herself is questionable as well.

AzraelKrieg · September 2016

Dracane wrote: »

You are seeing experience scrolls, I see blasphemy and herecy

"Created by a priestess of Meridia, for whom time is relative"
Time=Auri-El
Ignoring time=Ignoring Auri-El
Ignoring Auri-El=Ignorance
Ignorance= 1 week in my torture chamber.

Who is responsive for this work of blashpemy ? Meridia is the only daedric lord, that I can respect, due to her noble goals.
But I doubt, that a mere priestess of hers can escape time. If Meridia can do it herself is questionable as well.

Time would be relative for Meridia being a Daedric prince and all. The priestess not so much. Also, damn elf lovers. Akatosh is the true god of time.

SleepyTroll · September 2016

Dam ZOS.

ArtOfShred · September 2016

Yeah not a fan of these things popping up. Though as it stands is about the only worthwhile consumable item other than crown repair kits.

Dracane · September 2016

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

You are seeing experience scrolls, I see blasphemy and herecy

"Created by a priestess of Meridia, for whom time is relative"
Time=Auri-El
Ignoring time=Ignoring Auri-El
Ignoring Auri-El=Ignorance
Ignorance= 1 week in my torture chamber.

Who is responsive for this work of blashpemy ? Meridia is the only daedric lord, that I can respect, due to her noble goals.
But I doubt, that a mere priestess of hers can escape time. If Meridia can do it herself is questionable as well.

Time would be relative for Meridia being a Daedric prince and all. The priestess not so much. Also, damn elf lovers. Akatosh is the true god of time.

Akatosh is merely a fictional creation of your "Saint" Alessia. Names, just names.
Auri-El is the true and original god !

code65536 · September 2016

So for people who have enough CP to be capped for another year or two of increases, this is the "useful" consumable that we can get? Humbug.

Mettaricana · September 2016

Eh its so easy to level and the shared cp and enlightenment bonus we really don't ever need an exp scroll unless leveling a skill to morph... so really dont see a need to make em crafted

Teridaxus · September 2016

Did people actually expected that the crownstore would only remain mounts and costumes?
Its was obvious that they will add slowly non cosmetic stuff like this.

I remember that more poison and potions variants were datamined too at the same time with the 2 unknown xp scrolls.

Rosveen · September 2016

Dracane wrote: »

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

You are seeing experience scrolls, I see blasphemy and herecy

"Created by a priestess of Meridia, for whom time is relative"
Time=Auri-El
Ignoring time=Ignoring Auri-El
Ignoring Auri-El=Ignorance
Ignorance= 1 week in my torture chamber.

Who is responsive for this work of blashpemy ? Meridia is the only daedric lord, that I can respect, due to her noble goals.
But I doubt, that a mere priestess of hers can escape time. If Meridia can do it herself is questionable as well.

Time would be relative for Meridia being a Daedric prince and all. The priestess not so much. Also, damn elf lovers. Akatosh is the true god of time.

Akatosh is merely a fictional creation of your "Saint" Alessia. Names, just names.
Auri-El is the true and original god !

...who only became a god after he mantled Aka, the original Time Dragon.

Dracane · September 2016

Rosveen wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

You are seeing experience scrolls, I see blasphemy and herecy

"Created by a priestess of Meridia, for whom time is relative"
Time=Auri-El
Ignoring time=Ignoring Auri-El
Ignoring Auri-El=Ignorance
Ignorance= 1 week in my torture chamber.

Who is responsive for this work of blashpemy ? Meridia is the only daedric lord, that I can respect, due to her noble goals.
But I doubt, that a mere priestess of hers can escape time. If Meridia can do it herself is questionable as well.

Time would be relative for Meridia being a Daedric prince and all. The priestess not so much. Also, damn elf lovers. Akatosh is the true god of time.

Akatosh is merely a fictional creation of your "Saint" Alessia. Names, just names.
Auri-El is the true and original god !

...who only became a god after he mantled Aka, the original Time Dragon.

Lies ! Anu became Anui-El and Anui-El created Auri-El to create a feeling of time and existence, so that there is a feeling of order.

And our great god possessed the mercy to come down to Nirn and smite the traitor god and his armies. And his heritance is still walking the surface of Nirn: The Altmer.
But our father is never far away. For all it takes to embrace his glory, is to look in the sky and behold Magnus' Sphere and Auri-El is his guardian. The warden of the eye of the dragon.

CasNation · September 2016

Hey guys, the lore stuff is really interesting and all, but these scrolls are actually kind of a big deal. @Paulington is right; these scrolls directly overstep the boundaries they set on the crown store. That worries me (though frankly, the crown crated themselves worry me even more).

Iselin · September 2016

They should just go ahead and go with the WOW flow and sell instant CP600 power-ups with all skills and morphs unlocked since, apparently, leveling is such a drag for some

Alucardo · September 2016

I'll probably still use the 2 hour ones. 30 minutes will get wasted so easily with groups of grinders gathering mobs and killing them all while you run around looking for the scraps

The Uninvited · September 2016

Dracane wrote: »

You are seeing experience scrolls, I see blasphemy and herecy

"Created by a priestess of Meridia, for whom time is relative"
Time=Auri-El
Ignoring time=Ignoring Auri-El
Ignoring Auri-El=Ignorance
Ignorance= 1 week in my torture chamber.

Who is responsive for this work of blashpemy ? Meridia is the only daedric lord, that I can respect, due to her noble goals.
But I doubt, that a mere priestess of hers can escape time. If Meridia can do it herself is questionable as well.

But all time is relative, that doesn't mean it's ignored.

WhiteCoatSyndrome · September 2016

CasNation wrote: »

Hey guys, the lore stuff is really interesting and all, but these scrolls are actually kind of a big deal. @Paulington is right; these scrolls directly overstep the boundaries they set on the crown store. That worries me (though frankly, the crown crated themselves worry me even more).

^This. And I strongly suspect with the large number of people telling them 'the Crown Store Potions are useless, I can craft better' they'll take that to be their excuse to add more like this, rather than take it as the intended 'no one will buy these for the consumables, don't put consumables in at all'.

mzapkeneb18_ESO wrote: »

Did people actually expected that the crownstore would only remain mounts and costumes?

No.

Doesn't mean being proven right is a pleasant experience. Kind of like suspecting your house has termites vs. confirming it.

Slurg · September 2016

Paulington wrote: »

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

The standard crown scroll gives 50% boost for 2 hours. The one pictured gives 150% boost for 30 minutes. I find that to be reasonable. Plus the chances of actually getting it since it is a crown crate item is probably quite low.

It lasts the same amount of time as a crafted XP pot (30 minutes) but gives 100% more XP. It's pretty irrelevant how rare it is as the fact it even exists oversteps the original Crown Store ethos.

They need to be craftable or you have stuff on the Crown Store that's better than in-game.

I agree with you. I'm a little surprised ZOS didn't try to officially justify the new scrolls with some kind of verbal gymnastics like the post you responded to. I remember at the time they justified the existence of the original crown scroll by saying master crafters could make 4 ambrosia at a pop and use passive skills to extend their time so psijic ambrosia was still better. This new thing - crickets. Do they not even care about explaining why they are going against previous decisions anymore?

Teridaxus · September 2016

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

CasNation wrote: »

Hey guys, the lore stuff is really interesting and all, but these scrolls are actually kind of a big deal. @Paulington is right; these scrolls directly overstep the boundaries they set on the crown store. That worries me (though frankly, the crown crated themselves worry me even more).

^This. And I strongly suspect with the large number of people telling them 'the Crown Store Potions are useless, I can craft better' they'll take that to be their excuse to add more like this, rather than take it as the intended 'no one will buy these for the consumables, don't put consumables in at all'.

mzapkeneb18_ESO wrote: »

Did people actually expected that the crownstore would only remain mounts and costumes?

No.

Doesn't mean being proven right is a pleasant experience. Kind of like suspecting your house has termites vs. confirming it.

Well when i saw my neighbour buying a box full with termites, i'm kinda worried but can't do much until it happened.
Zos will only react if their work with the crown store is done and people up to arms because of it since there is no actual evidence if they actually do it right now.

smacx250 · September 2016

From the crown crate drop frequency thread, you'd get a "grand" about 1/300 crates, a "major" about 1/300 crates, and a "regular" about 1/60 crates. It will take spending a lot of money to actually "use" these if they are crate exclusive. But I strongly agree with the issue pointed out with respect to how much stronger they are than the crafted drink, regardless of how expensive they are.

Sallington · September 2016

We just a need a rare "Grand Roe" drop from refining fish, along with a new recipe.

luen79rwb17_ESO · September 2016

Wow... This issue better be adressed soon or it will be the biggest slap in the face from these crown crates.

It's the worst item to come up with this and breaking your ethos as OP says... You're basically saying "oh look! This guy here was either very lucky or spent 100s of US$ and got plenty of these items that makes him level/gain CPs 3x faster than you".

So much for "only cosmetics" as we were told several times!

Well this totally stinks to P2W and what's even worse, looks like those of us who had spent many time leveling several alts, playing alot and getting CPs in the process will feel like ALL of our time was wasted since now anyone with plenty of $$$ can catch you up 3x faster! This is atrocious in my opinion.

Dracane · September 2016

The Uninvited wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

You are seeing experience scrolls, I see blasphemy and herecy

"Created by a priestess of Meridia, for whom time is relative"
Time=Auri-El
Ignoring time=Ignoring Auri-El
Ignoring Auri-El=Ignorance
Ignorance= 1 week in my torture chamber.

Who is responsive for this work of blashpemy ? Meridia is the only daedric lord, that I can respect, due to her noble goals.
But I doubt, that a mere priestess of hers can escape time. If Meridia can do it herself is questionable as well.

But all time is relative, that doesn't mean it's ignored.

Never have I seen a thread, that contains so many lies lies lies.
If you were to speak out such words of herecy in front of the High Chapel of Auri-El in Alinor, they would shackle you and put you in a liddle sailboat with Pyandonea as its destination.

And then we shall see. We shall see.

Lumbermill_Emperor · September 2016

thanks for the catch
topic in general section about this is very popular right now

AmberLaTerra · September 2016

All they have to do is bump up our Ambrosia's to 150% and then those of us who fish and get mass perfect roe can triple out prices on Ambrosia for their now tripled effect.

Slurg · September 2016

AmberLaTerra wrote: »

All they have to do is bump up our Ambrosia's to 150% and then those of us who fish and get mass perfect roe can triple out prices on Ambrosia for their now tripled effect.

That would be a very player friendly solution. But I suspect if they do anything it will involve a new 20-part recipe with a 1% drop rate for each piece from provisioning writs but only the ones that contain ginger as a reward, and a new rare drop called ultimate roe that only drops rarely from the highest quality of fish but only the ones caught at night.

Or more likely they'll do nothing at all.

Teridaxus · September 2016

Found the blog which datamined those scrolls and other crownstore items too.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/de/discussion/290066/data-mining-icons-items-showcase-v2-6-update-12

Other datamining threads got even more crown store items.

Nerdman9 · September 2016

This is probably the worst thing about crown crates I've seen so far. At least everything else was just cosmetics or potions that weren't better then crafted. But this goes to show that they are trying to sneak rare things into the crates that are clearly better then crafted ones. And the fact they aren't even commenting on this thread is even more worrisome. I sure hope they find a way to fix this. Just take it out of the crates would probably be best and simplest.