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Removal of the Emperor Trophy on PlayStation 4
KICHZY
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Trophies are for people to want to get more out of a game, objectives as such and for your effort in doing so you are rewarded with a Platinum. My issue is that this trophy has only been accomplished by 0.1% of all players since June 2015 on PS4 and it is stopping progression for many who are wanting to achieve the Platinum. This "in-game achievement" is purposely designed for the top elite and you get rewarded with a title but it definitely doesn't belong as a trophy, so I ask please remove this from the list.
I understand not everyone is interested in collecting trophies, But please think
Edited by KICHZY on September 11, 2016 5:58PM I understand not everyone is interested in collecting trophies, But please think
Removal of the Emperor Trophy on PlayStation 4 79 votes
Keep Emperor Trophy/Achievement
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46 votes
Remove Emperor Trophy/Achievement
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33 votes
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Luigi_Vampa✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Seems silly to remove a trophy just because it is hard. Do you guys only like participation trophies?PC/EU DC6 -
bigted209✭✭✭Keep Emperor Trophy/AchievementKeep it. Emp isn't that hard to get honestly...find a dead campaign, bring some good pvp friends, pass emp between you like hot potato. First time I got crowned I was at legionary rank, and I'm by no means a great, he'll even good pvp player. Just have to know how to do it, Google is your friend
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Pinja✭✭✭✭Keep Emperor Trophy/Achievement
Naw you make leaderboards take your gold gear & go. Otherwise you didn't work hard enough.Edited by Pinja on September 11, 2016 6:23PM1 -
DPShiro✭✭✭✭✭
✭Remove Emperor Trophy/AchievementThis bothers me, as I hate PVP and find it incredibly boring.
At least update the achievement so it can be unlocked by either emperor or stormproof/flawless.~ Gryphon Heart ~
~ Immortal Redeemer ~
~ Grand Master Crafter ~
~ Master Angler ~
~ Former Emperor ~0 -
KICHZY✭✭✭✭Remove Emperor Trophy/AchievementSeems silly to remove a trophy just because it is hard. Do you guys only like participation trophies?
I myself like a challenge regardless of difficulty, I've achieved platinum's on Bloodborne, Dark Souls and just completed the new Deus Ex without killing anyone throughout the game in less than 4 hours...Difficulty has nothing to do with this Typhoios. Becoming the Emperor of Tamriel is something reserved for people who literally dedicate their life to the game. It was designed as an in-game achievement in which the top elite get rewarded.
PS4 Trophies are designed to be obtainable (some hard), Please don't get them mixed up with achievements.Edited by KICHZY on September 11, 2016 6:26PM1 -
runagate✭✭✭✭✭
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Naw you make leaderboards take your gold gear & go. Otherwise you didn't work hard enough.
You do understand that the meaning of the title is that I'm simple or daft, to be humorous? I have a title for people like you but sadly you earned it by not trying hard enough.3 -
susmitds✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Keep Emperor Trophy/AchievementBTW, the real number is much lesser than 0.1%. It is shown as 0.1% as it is lowest possible value shown as long as at least one person gets it.Edited by susmitds on September 11, 2016 6:31PM0 -
Cazzy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Remove Emperor Trophy/AchievementI have no faith in my ability to reach Emp, even when I try
I can't play as frequently as they can so it's often a pointless endeavor. 0 -
susmitds✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Keep Emperor Trophy/AchievementBTW, I am one of the luclucky few who got emperor even before unlocking Magicka Detonation on that character and that's after the latest skill line experience nerf. Hell, I was emperor for a whole week on that character and still now haven't maxed out the alliance lines.Edited by susmitds on September 11, 2016 6:35PM0 -
LadyNalcarya✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Keep Emperor Trophy/AchievementThere's nothing wrong with platinum trophies being difficult to get. Having 90+% in all your games doesnt affect anything, its just a vanity thing.
Besides, Dark Souls' platinum is easier than Vanquish', for example, or MGS. It doesnt even require a no-death run, or extra challenges, or something. And there's many not-that-difficult games that have grindy or tricky trophies.Edited by LadyNalcarya on September 11, 2016 6:38PMDro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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susmitds✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Keep Emperor Trophy/AchievementThis bothers me, as I hate PVP and find it incredibly boring.
At least update the achievement so it can be unlocked by either emperor or stormproof/flawless.
Sure, as long as you make the inverse possible too. I would like to get Flawless Conqueror by getting Emperor.0 -
Twilix01✭✭✭Keep Emperor Trophy/AchievementPlenty of other games make achievements/trophies that are ridiculously time consuming, incredibly difficult, downright tedious, and even combinations of the three. ZOS is not obligated to remove a single thing that doesn't even have any impact on your gameplay from the game, there is no reason to remove emperor as a trophy or achievement from the game just because not everyone can dedicate the time to it. Should we also remove the achievement to beat vet maelstrom? Maybe the one for vet maw of lorkhaj as well? At what point would you draw the line for an achievement to be "too hard" to get to justify getting it removed?2
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Luigi_Vampa✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Seems silly to remove a trophy just because it is hard. Do you guys only like participation trophies?
I myself like a challenge regardless of difficulty, I've achieved platinum's on Bloodborne, Dark Souls and just completed the new Deus Ex without killing anyone throughout the game in less than 4 hours...Difficulty has nothing to do with this Typhoios. Becoming the Emperor of Tamriel is something reserved for people who literally dedicate their life to the game. It was designed as an in-game achievement in which the top elite get rewarded.
PS4 Trophies are designed to be obtainable (some hard), Please don't get them mixed up with achievements.
What is wrong with a trophy for the elite? Doesn't that make the platinum even more appealing? It is obtainable. All I'm hearing is that you want a challenge, but not one that requires too much dedication.PC/EU DC2 -
runagate✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I turned down emperor 6 times to let other people get it back before Vigor or Detonation were a thing so that other people in my group could get it, figuring I'd be playing a long time and would eventually get it. My main is a Major and all of those ranks were gotten due to being in an amazing group, all long before getting ranks was easy.
I've done my damnedest to help others get it in the interim when it actually took a lot more work (on their part, not mine). I think the hardest thing I've ever done was to help @danarty get emperor. She tried so hard, so many times. And this is a person who had 2 accounts full of max level characters before most people here started playing. I wonder what ever happened to her?
I have to admit that without the passive it's not such a big deal to get, but the perma-passives also inspired more exploits and simply bad behavior than anything else I've seen.
It's not as though you have to learn how to coordinate group tactics in Cyrodiil to get emperor. You just need a week off work and some skill in diplomacy.0 -
bebynnag✭✭✭✭✭
✭Keep Emperor Trophy/Achievementplatinum? trophies? i have no idea what these things are... XBOX 4 LIFE!
/sorry not sorry
But seriously its an achievment, some people will get it, some people will cheese it, others wont get it... all that matters is that you enjoy the game while you play it!1 -
Seems silly to remove a trophy just because it is hard. Do you guys only like participation trophies?
I myself like a challenge regardless of difficulty, I've achieved platinum's on Bloodborne, Dark Souls and just completed the new Deus Ex without killing anyone throughout the game in less than 4 hours...Difficulty has nothing to do with this Typhoios. Becoming the Emperor of Tamriel is something reserved for people who literally dedicate their life to the game. It was designed as an in-game achievement in which the top elite get rewarded.
PS4 Trophies are designed to be obtainable (some hard), Please don't get them mixed up with achievements.
What is wrong with a trophy for the elite? Doesn't that make the platinum even more appealing? It is obtainable. All I'm hearing is that you want a challenge, but not one that requires too much dedication.
becoming an emperor doesn't require simply dedication.
You need to stay in PvP 20 hours a day0 -
Browiseth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Keep Emperor Trophy/AchievementI can understand where this argument is coming from, since it's an impractical thing to achive
it's also just a trophy thoughskingrad when zoscharacters:PC/NA but live in EU 150+ ping lyfe- EP - M - Strikes-with-Arcane - Argonian Stamina Sorc - lvl 50 - The Flawless Conqueror/Spirit Slayer
- EP - F - Melina Elinia - Dunmer Magicka Dragonknight - lvl 50
- EP - F - Sinnia Lavellan - Altmer Warden Healer - lvl 50
- EP - M - Follows-the-Arcane - Argonian Healer Sorcerer- lvl 50
- EP - F - Ashes-of-Arcane - Argonian Magicka Necromancer - lvl 50
- EP - M - Bolgrog the Sinh - Orc Stamina Dragonknight - lvl 50
- EP - F - Moonlight Maiden - Altmer Magicka Templar - lvl 50
- EP - F - Maxine Cauline - Breton Magicka Nightblade - lvl 50
- EP - M - Garrus Loridius - Imperial Stamina Templar - lvl 50
- EP - F - Jennifer Loridius - Imperial Necromancer tank - lvl 50
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susmitds✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Keep Emperor Trophy/AchievementBdCHighVoltage wrote: »Seems silly to remove a trophy just because it is hard. Do you guys only like participation trophies?
I myself like a challenge regardless of difficulty, I've achieved platinum's on Bloodborne, Dark Souls and just completed the new Deus Ex without killing anyone throughout the game in less than 4 hours...Difficulty has nothing to do with this Typhoios. Becoming the Emperor of Tamriel is something reserved for people who literally dedicate their life to the game. It was designed as an in-game achievement in which the top elite get rewarded.
PS4 Trophies are designed to be obtainable (some hard), Please don't get them mixed up with achievements.
What is wrong with a trophy for the elite? Doesn't that make the platinum even more appealing? It is obtainable. All I'm hearing is that you want a challenge, but not one that requires too much dedication.
becoming an emperor doesn't require simply dedication.
You need to stay in PvP 20 hours a day
That's false, you can get one with a quick push after campaign start in few hours.3 -
Serjustin19✭✭✭✭✭Keep Emperor Trophy/AchievementKeep it. Emp isn't that hard to get honestly...find a dead campaign, bring some good pvp friends, pass emp between you like hot potato. First time I got crowned I was at legionary rank, and I'm by no means a great, he'll even good pvp player. Just have to know how to do it, Google is your friend
I been trying to get emperor for 1 year and 5 months in a dead campaign. In a campaign were DC hardly attacks any keeps. Were AD is doing well. (Was in top 10 2 weeks ago till 1 AD asked me nicely to not repair walls and such so she can be Empress. I didn't mind honestly) (Now I back DC....)
I In a dead campaign when I keep asking my friends to help me. Since I was in top 10 on DC. Ages ago. But no. They say Scourge is boring and they won't come back. But tis fine with me. Someday I will be Emperor in dead campaign. Be hard work. However I agre with your point of view. But not this kind of Dead Campaign I in.
Any way I still and always love that dead Campaign.
Formerly Serjustin19, Save for Forum Of Course.... Fiery_Darkness (PC NA) currently.0 -
Pinja✭✭✭✭Keep Emperor Trophy/AchievementSerjustin19 wrote: »Keep it. Emp isn't that hard to get honestly...find a dead campaign, bring some good pvp friends, pass emp between you like hot potato. First time I got crowned I was at legionary rank, and I'm by no means a great, he'll even good pvp player. Just have to know how to do it, Google is your friend I been trying to get emperor for 1 year and 5 months in a dead campaign. In a campaign were DC hardly attacks any keeps. Were AD is doing well. (Was in top 10 2 weeks ago till 1 AD asked me nicely to not repair walls and such so she can be Empress. I didn't mind honestly) (Now I back DC....)
I In a dead campaign when I keep asking my friends to help me. Since I was in top 10 on DC. Ages ago. But no. They say Scourge is boring and they won't come back. But tis fine with me. Someday I will be Emperor in dead campaign. Be hard work. However I agre with your point of view. But not this kind of Dead Campaign I in.
Any way I still and always love that dead Campaign.
Some times its better to pick the bloodiest. If you have good stats & a hard drive you wont need repair kits or an army. If the top pushers don't want to push knock them off the leader bored & take advantage of their distractions. Politics aside, if you know the battle field you can push.0 -
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✭Remove Emperor Trophy/AchievementOver the past few weeks on Xbox I've seen multiple former emperors with low PVP rank and CP.
Examples:
220ish legionary (how tf did they get it?)
236 veteren
278 Corporal
280 Corporal
320 sergeant
Lvl 40 sergent (must've got in non vet but in vet campaign he was a solid player when scaled)
Theres been more. These are just a few and I thought wow, here I am cp 531 good pvper and never had it once - although I've never truly pushed for it..Edited by Wrecking_Blow_Spam on September 11, 2016 8:02PMXbox one EU
8 Flawless conquerors on all class specs (4 stam, 4 magicka)
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LadyNalcarya✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Keep Emperor Trophy/AchievementWrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »Over the past few weeks on Xbox I've seen multiple former emperors with low PVP rank and CP.
Examples:
220ish legionary (how tf did they get it?)
236 veteren
278 Corporal
280 Corporal
320 sergeant
Lvl 40 sergent (must've got in non vet but in vet campaign he was a solid player when scaled)
Theres been more. These are just a few and I thought wow, here I am cp 531 good pvper and never had it once - although I've never truly pushed for it..
Ive seen non-pvpers being pushed for emp, just because they wanted a title and costume and had friends in good pvp guilds (or bribed said guilds). Also might be an alt of experienced pvper, that was pushed with help of his guild.^^
And there's non-vet and non-cp campaigns, too.Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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DPShiro✭✭✭✭✭
✭Remove Emperor Trophy/Achievement
Flawless isn't an trophy/achievement on psn/xbl, just in game.
My suggestion was to combine both to a achievement instead so non PVP players can get it.~ Gryphon Heart ~
~ Immortal Redeemer ~
~ Grand Master Crafter ~
~ Master Angler ~
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Paraflex✭✭✭✭Keep Emperor Trophy/AchievementI got my emp trophy and think it should remain the same...you need a solid pvp guild to help you and this will be easy to getHollykills CP 630 Templar Healer - Ad PS4 Warlord Rank
Max Stam/Mag Dk
Max Stam Sorc
Max Stam/Mag NB
Don't care to dps much so I heal.2 -
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✭Keep Emperor Trophy/AchievementIs there even a precedent for a trophy being removed? I honestly couldn't find one. The only thing I could ever find that has happened is the conditions for a trophy to be achieved have been changed.
Also a lot of trophies are setting at 0.01%. However there is a great deal of nuance to that figure. It counts all players who have every loaded the game online. So it is not an accurate reflection of all players actively trying to get the trophy. If a player loaded up ESO and decided it was not there cup of tea before even reaching level 10, they are still counted in that 0.01%.
MMO's are time sinks with a long play time. The trophies reflect that. You cannot compare plat-ing a game like Bloodborne or Dark Souls which can be done in a few days to an MMO. I'll give you an example FFXIV has a trophy that will take a minimum 6 months to complete.
In truth the trophy is not even that hard to get. The trick is to be online at reset. I had emp in under 2hrs my first time by doing that.0 -
Isellskooma✭✭✭✭Keep Emperor Trophy/AchievementGetting Emporer is so easy, only thing emperor is an endurance test. The people who stay up the most will get emperor.Edited by Isellskooma on September 12, 2016 4:48PM0
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Heindrich✭✭✭✭✭Keep Emperor Trophy/AchievementThis thread... I have no words.
Whilst we're at it, let's protest against gold medals at the Olympics.0