I'd just like to take a moment and thank the dev GENIUS who thought this set thru...just WOW.
Ya...BIG THANKS to the DEV who thought "geeze, this is great idea!!!" and came out with the VELIDRETH SET. I mean getting nuke bombed by 3 little INSTANT globs up close for 10k+ makes tons of sense! I mean but there's soooo many other sets that i'm sure amount to the absurdity of this. I mean its not like 9/10ths of the ganker's now aren't lining up for this stupid zero skill setup.
EVERY COMPANY pulls this. The release some stupid NEW OP item/set and wait till they SELL their copies of content. Then cry "foul" and nerf it or bring some other stupid set up to match it.
Where's the diversity going in this game??? You guys realize this is EXACTLY what KILLED Dark Age of Camelot??? Thanks for the new and upcoming "Trials of Atlantis".
EVERY COMPANY pulls this. The release some stupid NEW OP item/set and wait till they SELL their copies of content. Then cry "foul" and nerf it or bring some other stupid set up to match it.
Where's the diversity going in this game??? You guys realize this is EXACTLY what KILLED Dark Age of Camelot??? Thanks for the new and upcoming "Trials of Atlantis".
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Bad_Company✭✭✭✭Velidreth is not OP, it's just better performing in comparison to other monster sets now available. With Update 12 there will be some changes, tweaks and lots of new possibilities.My characters (EU PC):Leopardo Di-Caprio (Khajiit Templar) || Matthew Makehoney (Altmer Sorcerer) || Luck-Luster Burt (Redguard Dragonknight)Clint Histwood (Argonian Templar) || Martin Uber Ping (Redguard Sorcerer) || Louis Farmstrong (Imperial Nightblade)Anthony Hotskins (Altmer Nightblade)8 -
KICHZY✭✭✭✭I'm sure a company of trained developers, management and marketing team know better than a whiny *** who can't even produce a topic without coming across as a brat. Perhaps use your time to create something constructive rather than moaning. Yes balance is an issue but they've already announced at PaxWest that they are looking into a mass balancing patch in the future, It's on there list.
Your post is so narrow minded it's laughable...grow up!
You've made 3 topics and numerous posts (more than I can be bothered looking at) on how terrible the game is and how it's failing, If the game is that bad for you, simply leave. Stop spreading your nonsensical shite all over the place for others to see. Heck your "rant" thread from May 2014 practically states the game is dying then...Guess what? You were very much mistaken.
If you want the game to improve the best thing you could possibly do is never come back to these forums, People like you are the reason community's fall.
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SublimeSparo✭✭✭✭✭Velidreth + Viper + vicecannon/red Mountain = the pinnacle of skill., aka the proverbial 'I Win' button. Crit rush, light attack, set procs win. Mad skillzPS4 EU CP900. PS4 NA CP600,
vAA HM ☆ vHRC HM ☆ vSO HM ☆ vMOL
4th Console vMOL clear,
vMA cleared on all classes stam & magic
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High Sparo - Altmer - mSo DD.
Wood Sparo - Bosmer - sNB DD
Nord Sparo - Nord -sDK DD/Tank.
Bubble Girl - Imperial -sTe DD
Succubus Sue - Breton - mNB Tank.
Andrana Stormlock - Altmer - mTe Healer/ DD
Elvali Marvani - Dunmer - mDK DD.
Venemus Draconem - Redguard - sDK DD
Jayri Leki - Redguard - sSo DD.
Miss Jabsalot - Altmer - mTe PvP DD/ Tank
Mireli Hlaano - Dunmer - mNB DD.
Ms Shanks - Redguard - sNB DD/ le bank
NA
Dilemma Dame - Altmer - mDK DD
Stamsorc Kitty - Redguard - sSor DD
Aia Draconis - Imperial - sDK Tank
Decides-Who-Lives - Argonian - mTe Healer
You wont stop me - Altmer - mSo DD
Stab in the dark - Khajiit - sNB DD
Jabjabjab Beambeambeam - Dunmer - mTe DD
Spatium Auxiliarus - Imperial - hTe Tank&bank
Spectre - Altmer - mNB DD
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fastolfv_ESO✭✭✭✭✭while it is broken your wrong about one thing, Daoc went strong loooong passed TOA, years later as a matter of fact1 -
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✭✭Bad_Company wrote: »Velidreth is not OP, it's just better performing in comparison to other monster sets now available. With Update 12 there will be some changes, tweaks and lots of new possibilities.
They said Malubeth was over preforming and they changed it and guess what. It still is OP.
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PurifedBladez✭✭✭✭✭SublimeSparo wrote: »Velidreth + Viper + vicecannon/red Mountain = the pinnacle of skill., aka the proverbial 'I Win' button. Crit rush, light attack, set procs win. Mad skillz
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✭✭✭I love this! I hope Wrobel gets his ass handed to him by whoever is higher up in the food chain in their company.Edited by andreasranasen on September 10, 2016 5:51PM#VMATOKENSYSTEM #WEAPONDYE #TRAITCHANGE #CROWNCRATELOVER- Alliance/Platform: Aldemerii - PS4/NA - CP 800+
- Mag Sorc: Arya Rosendahl - Altmer - Highelf
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AtmaDarkwolf✭✭✭put aside the emotions, and you would realize that the OP is correct, they do NOT think sets though, OR, they DO and its a 'ploy' to sell that dlc. (likely the 2nd)
I mean u can go back and see roughly when each DLC drops how there's 'exclusive' items that only drop in said dlc that are game breaking or very near game breaking.
2-3 months later its brought(sort of) into line with the others (and often said 'balancing' ends up adding bugs unforeseen, AKA: Malubeth set blunder)0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Firstly it is not instant, it's random.
Next, it can hit for a maximum of 11.5k critical hit on vulnerable enemies with multiple debuffs, who have no remaining armor and is not wearing Impen, that only when considering the attacker is a critical damage stacking ganker with more than 2x crit damage multiplier. So if you are wearing at least 5 impen and have some points in Resistant, you only get hit around 7-8k max and that too only when it crits.4 -
Bonzodog01✭✭✭✭✭Its funny that you mention DAoC.
See, Matt Firor, ESO's Game Director, was one of the brains behind DAoC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Firor
ESO, for Matt, was meant to be an evolution of DAoC.
I just thought i'd leave this nugget of interesting info with you.Xbox One - EU - EP/DCTrying and failing to hold the walls of his Templar house up since 20151 -
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✭✭✭✭✭With all the RNG procc sets coming to this game and becoming the (broken) meta soon we will be given dice to throw at eachother and whoever lands highest wins the duel/fights. GG peace.
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incite✭✭✭✭A set that deals more dmg than an ulti is hilarious (pvp rant btw :-) )PC EU
Check your CMX
solo/small scale pvp
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Nightblade (AR 50)
Dragonknight (AR 37)
Arcanist (AR 15)
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✭✭✭✭✭What confuses me is that is this set not cut in half by battle spirit?
Either way though, my tool tip says my Dawnbreaker does 11k damage. Or 5.5k
If this set does the full amount (i thin it does) then the set itself deals twice as much damage than my ult, has no cost.
By definition it kinda is OP. Just in the fact it deals as much damage or more than an ult and occurs more frequently.
Not that I want it nerfed, im just sad I don't have it all
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✭Bad_Company wrote: »Velidreth is not OP, it's just better performing in comparison to other monster sets.
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Bad_Company✭✭✭✭ssewallb14_ESO wrote: »Bad_Company wrote: »Velidreth is not OP, it's just better performing in comparison to other monster sets.
o_oForestd16b14_ESO wrote: »Bad_Company wrote: »Velidreth is not OP, it's just better performing in comparison to other monster sets now available. With Update 12 there will be some changes, tweaks and lots of new possibilities.
They said Malubeth was over preforming and they changed it and guess what. It still is OP.
I'll give you guys a definition of OP (which stands for "overpowered"): something that is OP is uncontrollably and blatantly superior to each and every other option in its category.
Valkyn Skoria is a very good monster set. In the right hands Molag Kena can be a wrecking ball. Malubeth is a very strong set, it becomes snowballing only if there are a bunch of people targetting the same guy wearing the set, 'cause it will proc much more often. They are all a good comparison to Velidreth, which surely outperforms them in a PvP high-burst environment because it procs more reliably.
What makes something OP is you guys, who do not know how to properly face/counter something in PvP and start calling for nerfs because you die. It's not like you have to win all the time.
Also, a good way to prevent being hit by Velidreth is dodgerolling behind the opponent's back whenever possible. The spheres only spawn in front of the wearer, so dodging helps you mitigate damage from attacks and could allow you to avoid Velidreth at all.
Edited by Bad_Company on September 10, 2016 8:39PMMy characters (EU PC):Leopardo Di-Caprio (Khajiit Templar) || Matthew Makehoney (Altmer Sorcerer) || Luck-Luster Burt (Redguard Dragonknight)Clint Histwood (Argonian Templar) || Martin Uber Ping (Redguard Sorcerer) || Louis Farmstrong (Imperial Nightblade)Anthony Hotskins (Altmer Nightblade)1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Bad_Company wrote: »ssewallb14_ESO wrote: »Bad_Company wrote: »Velidreth is not OP, it's just better performing in comparison to other monster sets.
o_oForestd16b14_ESO wrote: »Bad_Company wrote: »Velidreth is not OP, it's just better performing in comparison to other monster sets now available. With Update 12 there will be some changes, tweaks and lots of new possibilities.
They said Malubeth was over preforming and they changed it and guess what. It still is OP.
I'll give you guys a definition of OP (which stands for "overpowered"): something that is OP is uncontrollably and blatantly superior to each and every other option in its category.
Valkyn Skoria is a very good monster set. In the right hands Molag Kena can be a wrecking ball. Malubeth is a very strong set, it becomes snowballing only if there are a bunch of people targetting the same guy wearing the set, 'cause it will proc much more often. They are all a good comparison to Velidreth, which surely outperforms them in a PvP high-burst environment because it procs more reliably.
What makes something OP is you guys, who do not know how to properly face/counter something in PvP and start calling for nerfs because you die. It's not like you have to win all the time.
Also, a good way to prevent being hit by Velidreth is dodgerolling behind the opponent's back whenever possible. The spheres only spawn in front of the wearer, so dodging helps you mitigate damage from attacks and could allow you to avoid Velidreth at all.
It's crit rush, executioner, db, spam though. It's the same ol' BA 2H/Bow etc build but now for the low low cost of two armor pieces you get another ult that costs nothing!
As you said, Overpowered means better than all else, (and making other choices "stupid") in that category, by that definition velidreth is OP. No other monster sets gives such an efficient dps burst.1 -
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✭✭I'm sure a company of trained developers, management and marketing team know better than a whiny *** who can't even produce a topic without coming across as a brat. Perhaps use your time to create something constructive rather than moaning. Yes balance is an issue but they've already announced at PaxWest that they are looking into a mass balancing patch in the future, It's on there list.
Your post is so narrow minded it's laughable...grow up!
You've made 3 topics and numerous posts (more than I can be bothered looking at) on how terrible the game is and how it's failing, If the game is that bad for you, simply leave. Stop spreading your nonsensical shite all over the place for others to see. Heck your "rant" thread from May 2014 practically states the game is dying then...Guess what? You were very much mistaken.
If you want the game to improve the best thing you could possibly do is never come back to these forums, People like you are the reason community's fall.
'a mass balancing patch...'
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serenity_painted✭✭✭Bad_Company wrote: »ssewallb14_ESO wrote: »Bad_Company wrote: »Velidreth is not OP, it's just better performing in comparison to other monster sets.
o_oForestd16b14_ESO wrote: »Bad_Company wrote: »Velidreth is not OP, it's just better performing in comparison to other monster sets now available. With Update 12 there will be some changes, tweaks and lots of new possibilities.
They said Malubeth was over preforming and they changed it and guess what. It still is OP.
I'll give you guys a definition of OP (which stands for "overpowered"): something that is OP is uncontrollably and blatantly superior to each and every other option in its category.
Which would be a perfectly good description of Validreth. "They are all a good comparison to Velidreth, which surely outperforms them in a PvP high-burst environment because it procs more reliably." You said it yourself.
And it's not just PvP, it's vastly to superior to anything else in PvE aswell. If you are using a stam build and want offense, it's Validreth or gtfo.
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✭✭✭✭✭Lol. Velindreth is definitely "overpowered", when compared to other monster sets. However, my true question is — when are magicka builds going to get the magicka-based equivalent of this set? A 1pcs. that adds spell damage, and then a 2pcs. that has a 10% or 20% chance to proc something that deals 10k+ damage and is slightly an AOE. I reeeeeeeally would like to know this. @Wrobel2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭There is no way of winning here you guys.
Things do a lot of damage, so everyone complains for nerfs or buffs to the things that seem already nerfed. If everything had the same power output so nothing could be cried over as "overpowered", then the game would get boring. Everything would be even, fights would take longer and things would come to a stand still. The challenge of fighting a seemingly more powerful opponent would be gone, and that's the number one thing I read all the time from players. They want a challenge.
If something seems overpowered, then just try and find ways to beat it. I was defending this Keep from an AD group that had a player just wrecking me over and over in a straight up fight. So instead I hid, waited for him/her to go for the Keep flag, and when they were busy with the Guards who whittled their health down a ways I then attacked and defeated the player. Yeah sure you can mock by saying I couldn't win on my own, but the point is I found a way to prevail over a seemingly "overpowered" player.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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✭jaygraeb14a_ESO wrote: »Ya...BIG THANKS to the DEV who thought "geeze, this is great idea!!!" and came out with the VELIDRETH SET. I mean getting nuke bombed by 3 little INSTANT globs up close for 10k+ makes tons of sense! I mean but there's soooo many other sets that i'm sure amount to the absurdity of this. I mean its not like 9/10ths of the ganker's now aren't lining up for this stupid zero skill setup.
EVERY COMPANY pulls this. The release some stupid NEW OP item/set and wait till they SELL their copies of content. Then cry "foul" and nerf it or bring some other stupid set up to match it.
Where's the diversity going in this game??? You guys realize this is EXACTLY what KILLED Dark Age of Camelot??? Thanks for the new and upcoming "Trials of Atlantis".
If you think it's bad now, wait. Next patch you'll be able to get these stats easily:
No Battle Spirit (so add 5k health for PVP), no War Horn, not in WW form, no potion buff. 5 heavy with Black Rose so you can sustain just fine with 1.1k regen. It's hard to take this game serious when they add in more and more broken sets every patch.Edited by arkansas_ESO on September 11, 2016 2:34AMＦＯＲＵＭＰＬＡＲ
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With all the RNG procc sets coming to this game and becoming the (broken) meta soon we will be given dice to throw at eachother and whoever lands highest wins the duel/fights. GG peace.
And you WIN The thread.
I really appreciate your reading thru and understanding EXACTLY whats going on. I hope this game takes a turn but right now this is the direction its headed.
And as for the person who stated "DAOC went strong for a long time after TOA"; no, it did NOT go strong. Case and point go read ANY old forum hang-outs, and looks the #'s decline. It was THAT BAD. Way WAY to many procs, random pew pew, and long long hours FORCING you to "50+ man" raid groups for a CHANCE to get your stupid "trial artifact" and then START LEVELING IT.
And yes, I know that a DAOC team member is now with Zenimax. I hope hes from the "SA" ERA of DAOC. I mean look what happened to Warhammer Online...Mark Jacobs (creater of daoc) cough cough... ya.
Good reads and good feedback all. Thank you,0
