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Keep Overbuffing Stamina - GOOD JOB ZOS

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Stamina user has better dmg, better sets (customization possibilites), better utility over all. With new sets coming the gap between magicka and stamina will only increase.. Discuss.
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  • KenaPKK
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    It's true.
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  • Faulgor
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    I hope this is just setting the stage for spellcrafting which will make magicka builds amazing again.

    Only logical explanation, IMO.
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  • Venscal
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    As a Magicka users I am starting to feel like a second class citizens in this game.
  • Aedaryl
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    You forgot weapon ultimates, making magicka more useless !
  • Rex-Umbra
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    Stamina has always been OP and it only gets worse.
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  • TheHsN
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    yes it is true...
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  • Dracane
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    I agree. Those who haven't rerolled stamina yet, now is the time.
    I sure will
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  • Asmael
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    Dracane wrote: »
    I agree. Those who haven't rerolled stamina yet, now is the time.
    I sure will

    I'll miss you Overloading me to death if you reroll.

    Don't do it! :(

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  • TreeHugger1
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    Although i didn't play enough time I can tell whining wont help,if u want to change things don't pay zos and let them know that they can do whatever they want with this game but u don't have to pay them:p
  • Khaos_Bane
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    It's been going STA for a while. Soon they will out heal MAG too. The weapon Ultimates clearly show where they spend their time.
  • Lieblingsjunge
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    I've told myself I'm never ever playing Stamina. I'm gonna have such a blast next patch <3
    But my promise to myself remains, I'm not gonna reroll :'B
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  • Mady
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    Calm down!11!1!!! Every magicka user has a gap closer now!!1!!111 :|
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  • Apherius
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    Agree , Stamina are op . if weapons stam ultimate become cheat , and if they don't nerf it , we are ok Magicka friend for stop our Eso+ abbonnement ?

    AND just a note for stam : Please don't talk about shield and heal of the magicka ... in magicka dps , nobody use shield or Self heal in a good team with good heal ... .

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    Edited by Apherius on September 3, 2016 10:22AM
  • Woeler
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    Rex-Umbra wrote: »
    Stamina has always been OP and it only gets worse.

    Lel you were not here in the early days, definitely not here in the early days.
  • Ivan04
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    Magicka got some very nice new sets, like Medusa, for example, plus old sets like Martial Knowledge are being brought back. And magic users always had incredibly OP sets like Lich and Warlock, so I'm ever surprised to ever see them whine about sets. TBS is as good for magic as it is for stamina, and for healers too. I'm only left to assume that because magic-based playstyle is harder to master to some extent, there are more whiners in the general mass of magic users. Magic sorcs, nightblade bombers and templar permatroll-fullhealthbeamers are stll quite OP, which is proven even by moderately experienced players.
    Edited by Ivan04 on September 3, 2016 10:30AM
  • Apherius
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    Ivan04 wrote: »
    Magicka got some very nice new sets, like Medusa, for example, plus old sets like Martial Knowledge are being brought back. And magic users always had incredibly OP sets like Lich and Warlock, so I'm ever surprised to ever see them whine about sets. TBS is as good for magic as it is for stamina, and for healers too. I'm only left to assume that because magic-based playstyle is harder to master to some extent, there are more whiners in the general mass of magic users. Magic sorcs, nightblade bombers and templar permatroll-fullhealthbeamers are stll quite OP, which is proven even by moderately experienced players.

    you are stamina right ?

    sorry but you don't know what you say . it's not because we have 2 set magicka back ,than we are op .
    Edited by Apherius on September 3, 2016 10:39AM
  • Xsorus
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    Magicka dks got some pretty good sets this patch and freakin Valkyn scoria is win now.
  • Apherius
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    Xsorus wrote: »
    Magicka dks got some pretty good sets this patch and freakin Valkyn scoria is win now.

    cool , we are not all Magicka Dk's man , maybe it's good for some magic user , But not for other .
    Edited by Apherius on September 3, 2016 10:41AM
  • Mojmir
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    Apherius wrote: »
    Xsorus wrote: »
    Magicka dks got some pretty good sets this patch and freakin Valkyn scoria is win now.

    cool , but we talk about " Magic user " we are not all Magicka Dk's man , maybe it's good for some magic user , But not for other .

    skoria was fine before the buff,but hey I'll take a buff.
  • Draxys
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    Faulgor wrote: »
    I hope this is just setting the stage for spellcrafting which will make magicka builds amazing again.

    Only logical explanation, IMO.

    Why would you expect a logical approach to balancing from zos?
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  • Khaos_Bane
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    Faulgor wrote: »
    I hope this is just setting the stage for spellcrafting which will make magicka builds amazing again.

    Only logical explanation, IMO.

    I really hope you are right and I am wrong but I don't see this at all. In fact, I have seen NO focus on MAG the last couple of updates. Only nerfs for the most part. Their energy is being spent on STA.

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    Yes zos I love it never been stronger
  • Xsorus
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    Apherius wrote: »
    Xsorus wrote: »
    Magicka dks got some pretty good sets this patch and freakin Valkyn scoria is win now.

    cool , we are not all Magicka Dk's man , maybe it's good for some magic user , But not for other .

    Skoria is going to be good for every magicka user
  • jhharvest
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    Faulgor wrote: »
    I hope this is just setting the stage for spellcrafting which will make magicka builds amazing again.

    Only logical explanation, IMO.
    I don't want magicka to be OP. I just want both options to be balanced, all playstyles (light, medium, heavy) roughly equal in their performance but with different strengths and weaknesses, and hopefully the one shot max damage vs. unkillable max mitigation & healing meta toned down a bit. Less powercreep, more balance plz. :/
  • BohnT
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    Please calm down you haven't tested everything and it's just the pts thing will change remember that stam bone shield. Yea stamina got love for a long time now but it doesn't outclass magicka in every point of the game. And don't forget you can't wear New sets only because they are added to the game, stam players will have to sacrifice some old sets for the new ones.
  • alakmir
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    m more worried about selene's visage and sellistrix's visage , the former can give OP dps with low cool down time and the later can cc u with damage and low cool down time too ... what is wrong with u @Wheeler @Wrobel plz reconsider ur decisions and let us know if we u want to keep magica in the game, alive or not ... the monster magica sets are pathetic with high cool down time but the stam ones r op with lesser cool down time ..
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  • Pangnirtung
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    Venscal wrote: »
    As a Magicka users I am starting to feel like a second class citizens in this game.

    As have stamina users for years.

    It's about time the playing field was levelled.

    Get used to magicka and stamina both being competitive.
  • Lucius_Aelius
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    That Two Hander Ultimate is way over the top, and I'm a mainly Stam player who uses Two-Handers and plans to use this Ultimate in PvP. My post that I've already copied and pasted everywhere else relevant in a bid for ZOS' attention:
    So I've been thinking about it and these seem mostly not OP to me, which should always be the first priority even if the alternative is that they need a buff, but that Two Hander Ultimate.... Seriously? You give glass cannons the ability to steal all my resistance that I had to work so hard and build for (sacrificing a great deal of damage in the process)? Seriously, wtf is that? I have no problem with any other aspect of anything else I read being OP, but that right there is some crazy stupid *** if ever I've seen it, and as a person with all Hybrid Tank/DPS characters I particularly take offense to it. Way to just invalidate my entire build in PvP with this one Ultimate, now I have absolutely no reason not to switch to full Medium Armor and give up on Heavy altogether.

    It's one thing to ignore my resistance with the Ultimate, that's fair, it doesn't do enough straight-up damage to be a problem and Corrosive Armor already does that better anyway by applying it to all your skills for the duration. But for me to go so far out of my way to buff my Resistance as close to the cap as possible and still do half-decent damage just to have a glass cannon not only ignore all that resistance with their Ultimate but also steal that hard-earned and dearly paid for resistance away with an equivalent buff to themselves... Even lasting for 8 seconds, that is profoundly broken and a slap in the face to anyone who tries to be separate from the glass cannon burst meta. Glass Cannons had way, way too much going for them already and Tankier builds not nearly enough, now this? Seriously ZOS, wtf.

    I love pretty much everything (if not everything) else that I read in the patch notes and all told this looks like an amazing update that will improve the game dramatically and set the stage for even more awesome updates to come, I don't know what to think about that Destro Ultimate and don't think the Resto staff is that good (I was hoping for something that could make non-templar Healers gave a similar quality big heals for the group, but the one person per second is useless for that) but at least there's nothing OP about them so it's a matter of buffing at the worst to get them sorted. That slap in the face to every Tanky character though... We sacrifice so much to get that resistance, giving Glass Cannons the ability to steal it for a full 8 seconds just by using a cheap Ultimate which would already be one of the best in the game without that ability is seriously and profoundly messed up.

    People are going to be able to get some serious uptime on that buff with the cheap cost and long duration, and what's worse is that I can't even make good use of it myself because of how close to the cap I am already, even with my enemies using penetration anything more I get still probably goes over the cap far more than I'm able to make use of (and not that it would make this Ultimate okay but it's definitely overdue that if everything else isn't going to have caps that neither should resistance). Just get rid of the effect that allows it to steal a Tank's hard-earned resistance and this along with all the other Ultimates will be fine (or in need of a buff, too soon for me to say though especially since I'm not on PTS), but as it stands that Two Hander Ultimate is flat-out and utterly broken. Ignoring resistance and the other features are more than enough, for christ sake ZOS please be reasonable.
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  • Vanzen
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    Stam is favored once again, but something along the lines ...

    Sun+Skoria+Wyrd Tree.

    For DK.

    Not bad.
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