CapuchinSeven wrote: »Yup, it's comically broken. Throw in some traps and dodge rolls and boom, instant win.
IMO:
- Viper is not OP, 5 pieces with bad traits and bad bonuses for PvP (plus is bugged cause is scaling of spell critical/penetration). You have to sacrafice a lot in order to slot viper, it should be worth.
- Velidreth is OP, 2 pieces, perfect traits and bonuses, hits harder than viper plus is an AoE.
It's still getting broken 8-14Kplus ticks every second. People have posted evidence. Malubads defended it.CapuchinSeven wrote: »Yup, it's comically broken. Throw in some traps and dodge rolls and boom, instant win.
Two good friends of mine actually uninstalled and unsubscribed in frustration after dealing with this crap all day. We'll see what the patch brings, they're doing the "wait and see" thing.
I'm out too, but mostly because I hate running alone. :-/ and were having more fun with Overwatch...
I'm amazed people think one shotting with stamina builds is somehow new to this game.
The Methods change but the result is still the same.
IMO:
- Viper is not OP, 5 pieces with bad traits and bad bonuses for PvP (plus is bugged cause is scaling of spell critical/penetration). You have to sacrafice a lot in order to slot viper, it should be worth.
- Velidreth is OP, 2 pieces, perfect traits and bonuses, hits harder than viper plus is an AoE.
What kind of drugs are you on right now, and where can I find them? You don't have to sacrifice anything to run the combo, you can have less than 30K stam and 3K buffed damage and still wreck people.
It's not about one shotting or even ganking, the set is legitimately bugged. When you combo it with a few other sets, you can literally have no stats except maybe regen for maximum trolls and overwhelm people with such insane damage. The thread is about a broken set, not ganking.
IMO:
- Viper is not OP, 5 pieces with bad traits and bad bonuses for PvP (plus is bugged cause is scaling of spell critical/penetration). You have to sacrafice a lot in order to slot viper, it should be worth.
- Velidreth is OP, 2 pieces, perfect traits and bonuses, hits harder than viper plus is an AoE.
What kind of drugs are you on right now, and where can I find them? You don't have to sacrifice anything to run the combo, you can have less than 30K stam and 3K buffed damage and still wreck people.
You have to sacrifice a lot of stats, dropping you overal damage and healing output. For example, if you want to run a classic stam 2h+bow build, you will have to use 4 body pieces + 1 weapon, or drop agility jewerly to use 3 agility + 1 weapon + 1 body piece, and this will prevent you to use a 5 pieces body set (blackrose meta) + 2 pieces monster set like 99% of the 2h/bow build use. So yes, you have to sacrifice a lot in order to use viper.
The builds that truly benefit from viper are 1h+s and DW builds, but still you have to sacrifice a lot of base stats in order to use it. That is not the case with Velidreth that perfectly fits in all kind of builds, is pretty much BiS for any DD build.
There is a big diference beetwen Viper and Velidreth. Viper's by his own, is just a good set, withouth velidreth and widowmaker is not a problem.
If you want to ask for a nerf, you have to give reasons. "omg is OP nerfed cause i got killed with it" is not enought.It's not about one shotting or even ganking, the set is legitimately bugged. When you combo it with a few other sets, you can literally have no stats except maybe regen for maximum trolls and overwhelm people with such insane damage. The thread is about a broken set, not ganking.
You said it, the problem are the other sets. Use viper withouth widowmaker and withouth velidreth and show me how OP is its.
I was fighting a few people recently that were using both velidreth and viper. It is effing ridiculous for 16k total proc dmg from one attack. It takes zero skill and is completely overpowered. I've whispered some of the veli/viper users and the usual response is, "i'm sorry, i know it's ridiculous and awful and it's a damn shame it is in the game, but I'm not going to intentionally NOT use the most powerful set up I can."
I was fighting a few people recently that were using both velidreth and viper. It is effing ridiculous for 16k total proc dmg from one attack. It takes zero skill and is completely overpowered. I've whispered some of the veli/viper users and the usual response is, "i'm sorry, i know it's ridiculous and awful and it's a damn shame it is in the game, but I'm not going to intentionally NOT use the most powerful set up I can."
Bro you don't even need stats or gold weapons, get out of here.
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Bro you don't even need stats or gold weapons, get out of here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r7hkaHnDe0
You don't need gold weapon to kill potatos. He is killing people that don't even CC break, one guy took like 6 hits while stuned lol, they would have died even with training gear, i could do the exact same video using hunding's rage purple. Go and check zerbad stream, he is oneshotting people with a 260cp char and purple CP150 gear and weapons (no viper, just alchemist+flanking).
You don't need gold weapons or stats to kill bad players, one CC combo and they die.
Of everythign i said, that was your answer? IF you are going to jump into a balance discussion, you better have arguments to back your words. I tested and theorycrafted with viper for days, so you better do your homework before replying back
What´s wrong with people of this game? It´s one thing that a set is broken and not working as indended, but when a player combine some sets in order to make a new powerfull build suddenly all those sets are broken and needs a nerf?? Isn´t it a part of an mmo to go for the best performing build?? This build is powerfull because there´s a good synergy between these sets nothing more.
You said it, the problem are the other sets. Use viper withouth widowmaker and withouth velidreth and show me how OP is its.
What´s wrong with people of this game? It´s one thing that a set is broken and not working as indended, but when a player combine some sets in order to make a new powerfull build suddenly all those sets are broken and needs a nerf?? Isn´t it a part of an mmo to go for the best performing build?? This build is powerfull because there´s a good synergy between these sets nothing more.
I was fighting a few people recently that were using both velidreth and viper. It is effing ridiculous for 16k total proc dmg from one attack. It takes zero skill and is completely overpowered. I've whispered some of the veli/viper users and the usual response is, "i'm sorry, i know it's ridiculous and awful and it's a damn shame it is in the game, but I'm not going to intentionally NOT use the most powerful set up I can."
What´s wrong with people of this game? It´s one thing that a set is broken and not working as indended, but when a player combine some sets in order to make a new powerfull build suddenly all those sets are broken and needs a nerf?? Isn´t it a part of an mmo to go for the best performing build?? This build is powerfull because there´s a good synergy between these sets nothing more.
Think Im going to try 2 velidreth + 5 viper + 5 blackrose on stam DK soon. Should be pretty silly too.
What´s wrong with people of this game? It´s one thing that a set is broken and not working as indended, but when a player combine some sets in order to make a new powerfull build suddenly all those sets are broken and needs a nerf?? Isn´t it a part of an mmo to go for the best performing build?? This build is powerfull because there´s a good synergy between these sets nothing more.
Most people expect others to not theorycraft and just use non-set crafted items, if you don't do that and you actually use a strong setup, then KANKER KANKER!!