Why do Master Weapons have such a terrible charge?

Strider_Roshin · August 2016

I have to recharge my master weapons every time I do a dungeon; whereas I can farm VDSA 4 times in a row, and maybe have to recharge my maelstrom once. Why is the charge on master weapons so terrible?

Paulington · August 2016

I believe this bug has been around since vDSA was first released. I recall it's related to the Master weapons consuming an enchantment charge on every hit/heal, regardless of whether the enchant actually fires. This means they consume soul gems at an astonishing rate.

Not a lot that can be done about it, other than to carry a lot of soul gems!

Milvan · August 2016

How I see people that complains that their Maelstorm weapons charge deplete too fast.

OdinForge · August 2016

Why does my engine guardian NPC chase other NPCs or players instead of following me to give me stats? It's the same reason Master Weapons were brought back with bad old bugs and enchants.

Half assed game

Strider_Roshin · August 2016

Paulington wrote: »

I believe this bug has been around since vDSA was first released. I recall it's related to the Master weapons consuming an enchantment charge on every hit/heal, regardless of whether the enchant actually fires. This means they consume soul gems at an astonishing rate.

Not a lot that can be done about it, other than to carry a lot of soul gems!

Lovely. -_-

Milvan · August 2016

Paulington wrote: »

I believe this bug has been around since vDSA was first released. I recall it's related to the Master weapons consuming an enchantment charge on every hit/heal, regardless of whether the enchant actually fires. This means they consume soul gems at an astonishing rate.

Not a lot that can be done about it, other than to carry a lot of soul gems!

I believe its intended because Mael weapons are the only ones that actually have a passive bonus. So it does makes sense that its deplete faster.

Strider_Roshin · August 2016

Milvan wrote: »

Paulington wrote: »

I believe this bug has been around since vDSA was first released. I recall it's related to the Master weapons consuming an enchantment charge on every hit/heal, regardless of whether the enchant actually fires. This means they consume soul gems at an astonishing rate.

Not a lot that can be done about it, other than to carry a lot of soul gems!

I believe its intended because Mael weapons are the only ones that actually have a passive bonus. So it does makes sense that its deplete faster.

Masters weapons are actually the ones depleting fast; not the maelstrom ones.

Milvan · August 2016

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Milvan wrote: »

Paulington wrote: »

I believe this bug has been around since vDSA was first released. I recall it's related to the Master weapons consuming an enchantment charge on every hit/heal, regardless of whether the enchant actually fires. This means they consume soul gems at an astonishing rate.

Not a lot that can be done about it, other than to carry a lot of soul gems!

I believe its intended because Mael weapons are the only ones that actually have a passive bonus. So it does makes sense that its deplete faster.

Masters weapons are actually the ones depleting fast; not the maelstrom ones.

LOL I should read things attentionfully

code65536 · August 2016

They've always been terrible.

But here's a little secret: You never need to charge the Master's resto, because the enchantment works even when fully depleted (haven't tested the other weapons, though).

lardvader · August 2016

I thought the reason was because they don't have a CD on the enchant(?)

DPShiro · August 2016

Maybe we will get a QOL update I've been wanting for a long time:
Auto refill weapons with gems

Strider_Roshin · August 2016

Milvan wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Milvan wrote: »

Paulington wrote: »

I believe this bug has been around since vDSA was first released. I recall it's related to the Master weapons consuming an enchantment charge on every hit/heal, regardless of whether the enchant actually fires. This means they consume soul gems at an astonishing rate.

Not a lot that can be done about it, other than to carry a lot of soul gems!

I believe its intended because Mael weapons are the only ones that actually have a passive bonus. So it does makes sense that its deplete faster.

Masters weapons are actually the ones depleting fast; not the maelstrom ones.

LOL I should read things attentionfully

Lol it's all good. Your gif was still awesome.

Vaoh · August 2016

They forgot to buff them.

Literally forgot. Laziness. It's really sad.

Same goes for Ice Furnace 4-piece.

Transairion · August 2016

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've been told/seen somewhere that Master's weapons enchants still apply even with an empty charge? So per my understanding you don't actually have to recharge them.

Vaoh · August 2016

As a side note, I noticed that when dual wielding a Maelstrom Axe/Master Dagger, the Master Dagger will deplete from 100% to 0% in the time it takes the Maelstrom Axe to deplete from 100% to 50%.

Master weapons drain twice as fast as normal enchants

That's what I've noticed.

Not even taking into account how WEAK the Dagger/Greatsword/Destruction Staves are.

sluice · August 2016

These godly weapons (Maelstrom + Master) shouldn't even use a charge in my opinion.

code65536 · August 2016

Transairion wrote: »

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've been told/seen somewhere that Master's weapons enchants still apply even with an empty charge? So per my understanding you don't actually have to recharge them.

That is definitely correct for the Master's resto. I haven't tested the other Master weapons, though, in part because they're not as easy to test as the resto.

To test the resto, sprint or dodge roll to drain your stamina. Then block-cast Springs on yourself--the block is to prevent you from regenerating stamina naturally.

Doing this test with...

Normal Master's Resto: stamina is restored with each cast
Depleted Master's Resto: stamina is restored with each cast
Non-Master's Resto: your stamina bar doesn't move a single pixel

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · August 2016

Master Weapon have secondary effect that run 24/7 so that max stat increase what every it is, is applied to everything.

If it adds spell damage it's always there atrack or heal you're doing it with more spell damage. They also never need to be recharged the enchant will always work you can feed it gems if you're bored but that's like watering the lawn in the rain.

Gargath · August 2016

With so many grand soul gems dropping recently from random dungeons and other things there is really not a problem with charging

. They are even sold now in stores for less than a typical npc merchant would take, which looks ridiculous

.
But honestly I didn't realise yet that my master sword depletes charges faster than non-master one

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gard · August 2016

DPShiro wrote: »

Maybe we will get a QOL update I've been wanting for a long time:
Auto refill weapons with gems

There's an addon for this. If you are on PC

gard · August 2016

code65536 wrote: »

Transairion wrote: »

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've been told/seen somewhere that Master's weapons enchants still apply even with an empty charge? So per my understanding you don't actually have to recharge them.

That is definitely correct for the Master's resto. I haven't tested the other Master weapons, though, in part because they're not as easy to test as the resto.

To test the resto, sprint or dodge roll to drain your stamina. Then block-cast Springs on yourself--the block is to prevent you from regenerating stamina naturally.

Doing this test with...
Normal Master's Resto: stamina is restored with each cast

Depleted Master's Resto: stamina is restored with each cast

Non-Master's Resto: your stamina bar doesn't move a single pixel

Change to Master's weapons inbound in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...

idk · August 2016

Paulington wrote: »

I believe this bug has been around since vDSA was first released. I recall it's related to the Master weapons consuming an enchantment charge on every hit/heal, regardless of whether the enchant actually fires. This means they consume soul gems at an astonishing rate.

Not a lot that can be done about it, other than to carry a lot of soul gems!

If I recall correctly, Originally the Masted weapons did not lose their charge. When they made it so master weapons lost their charge they depleted fast.

The base stat added should remain even when the charge is depleted, max stam/magika/ health. The question is does the enchant oart remain?

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · August 2016

Vaoh wrote: »

They forgot to buff them.

Literally forgot. Laziness. It's really sad.

Same goes for Ice Furnace 4-piece.

A few sets are like this holding on to bonuses that made sense in 1.4 and 1.5