Malestorm Weapons should have a very small chance to drop in normal MSA!!

juhasman · August 2016

Here is the thing. Are people without maelstorm unable to do PvE content? No. Are people without maelstorms unable to do PvP effecivley? No. Maelstorm increasing the DPS by huge amount in some cases but true is that You dont need that DPS to end most of PvE content. BiS setups without maelstorms reach DPS high enough to be competitive with everything in PvE and if someone says ,,I loose in PvP because I dont have maelstorms" it's L2P issue. People need to be rewarded for doing the hardest content.

Ch4mpTW · August 2016

bigz888 wrote: »

They should never drop in normal mode. Normal mode is way too easy, u can't possibly die on it. Stop looking for easy ways out.
I've only completed vet maelstrom last week for first time. It's a grind but if u want the best gear u Gta earn it. Plus if u had enough for one day, just leave n carry on another day. That's y they added the save to it
Good luck

Is it... Is it actually possible to struggle in Normal Maelstrom Arena? I'm not saying no one has ever struggled in it, but like... Things die so fast. I even saw a video of a man completing Normal Maelstrom Arena with NO GEAR on. I'll say it again. With. No. Gear. On. And content like that should award something as strong as a Maelstrom Weapon? What? Lol.

jakeedmundson · August 2016

Its funny that people get mad about others getting gear.... "you didn't WORK for it! L2P!".... really? so what. relax.

why does it matter? If you can beat the arena... awesome. congrats, really! That means you shouldn't have any issues beating a player that can't beat the arena even if they had mal weapons. So again, what does it matter?

If you want to feel rewarded in life, go do volunteer work or get a degree or something... i dunno, anything. Just don't look to this game to feel accomplished all the time... especially that arena.
This is a game. Its meant for entertainment and fun. In an mmo, GROUP content is fun. Yes, farming dungeons and trials gets annoying sometimes but at least you're with your friends doing something together. If you prefer solo content... there's always skyrim.

At least in 4-person content you're not stuck for weeks or months in single, solo instance farming for a weapon you might never find.

Mal arena is junk solo content and next to no one would be doing it if those weapons weren't locked in there.
I'm all for a change to that current system to make the weapons attainable through other means. I wouldn't care if they made them boe so people could sell the things! Just do SOMETHING so those of us who don't have the time to invest in this arena can get the gear one way or another.

The one alternative to making mal weapons reachable to most players... would be to make the master weapons from DSA worth getting. So far, only a couple of them might be worth using. I'm glad they revamped them and all, but they don't quite match mal weapons.

Hutch679 · August 2016

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Seriously the weapon effects are so powerful that its make a huge gap between those who have them and those who don't.
There is really no other way to get it, you can'y buy it you can't trade it and friends can't help you.

Let the weapons have a small chance to drop in normal MSA and in blue and make them like now 100% chance in veteran and can drop in yellow, just like all other items in the game. Even a cp150 drop would be fine.

Also there will always be leader boards and scores in veteran mode, but MSA weapons are just too strong to be so hard to get

I completely disagree with these ever dropping in normal mode. End game gear should not drop from easy content such as nMA. I cleared normal mode in blue gear with no deaths... Come on now. And VMA is not that hard for real. The first clear is time consuming yes. But after the first clear it becomes much much easier.

Chilla_Deluxe · August 2016

All mobs can be 1 shotted in normal MSA, bosses die in like 10 secs. I don't agree.

jakeedmundson wrote: »

Its funny that people get mad about others getting gear.... "you didn't WORK for it! L2P!".... really? so what. relax.

why does it matter? If you can beat the arena... awesome. congrats, really! That means you shouldn't have any issues beating a player that can't beat the arena even if they had mal weapons. So again, what does it matter?

If you want to feel rewarded in life, go do volunteer work or get a degree or something... i dunno, anything. Just don't look to this game to feel accomplished all the time... especially that arena.
This is a game. Its meant for entertainment and fun. In an mmo, GROUP content is fun. Yes, farming dungeons and trials gets annoying sometimes but at least you're with your friends doing something together. If you prefer solo content... there's always skyrim. At least in 4-person content you're not stuck for weeks or months in single, solo instance farming for a weapon you might never find.

Mal arena is junk solo content and next to no one would be doing it if those weapons weren't locked in there.
I'm all for a change to that current system to make the weapons attainable through other means. I wouldn't care if they made them boe so people could sell the things! Just do SOMETHING so those of us who don't have the time to invest in this arena can get the gear one way or another.

The one alternative to making mal weapons reachable to most players... would be to make the master weapons from DSA worth getting. So far, only a couple of them might be worth using. I'm glad they revamped them and all, but they don't quite match mal weapons.

You don't seem to get the point , you wanna get the best weapons you gotta go through *** for it. The goal isn't for "most" players to have them that'd make it stupid everybody having equal dps and weapons. If you wanna have high quality stuff you gotta work for it.

maxjapank · August 2016

Master and Maelstrom weapons should have a chance to drop from Gold pvp rewards.

Milvan · August 2016

jakeedmundson wrote: »

Its funny that people get mad about others getting gear.... "you didn't WORK for it! L2P!".... really? so what. relax.

why does it matter? If you can beat the arena... awesome. congrats, really! That means you shouldn't have any issues beating a player that can't beat the arena even if they had mal weapons. So again, what does it matter?

If you want to feel rewarded in life, go do volunteer work or get a degree or something... i dunno, anything. Just don't look to this game to feel accomplished all the time... especially that arena.
This is a game. Its meant for entertainment and fun. In an mmo, GROUP content is fun. Yes, farming dungeons and trials gets annoying sometimes but at least you're with your friends doing something together. If you prefer solo content... there's always skyrim. At least in 4-person content you're not stuck for weeks or months in single, solo instance farming for a weapon you might never find.

Mal arena is junk solo content and next to no one would be doing it if those weapons weren't locked in there.
I'm all for a change to that current system to make the weapons attainable through other means. I wouldn't care if they made them boe so people could sell the things! Just do SOMETHING so those of us who don't have the time to invest in this arena can get the gear one way or another.

The one alternative to making mal weapons reachable to most players... would be to make the master weapons from DSA worth getting. So far, only a couple of them might be worth using. I'm glad they revamped them and all, but they don't quite match mal weapons.

Not sure if this a troll bait, or really serious.
First of all, bringing up RL in to a game discussion is lame, dull and shallow.

But this is a cooperative-competitive'ish online game. The equip sets will help to set up the outcome of a fight (pvp or pve). It's all about the merit, if the people spends some time thinking about a good build, farming up equips and improving his gameplay he earned the merit to be better rewarded than the player that didn't. This is a competitive game after all, merit needs to be proportinally rewarded. The player will set up the example and people will try to get better to also have access to the same gear and to learn the gameplay.

It's not fair that the player that didn't put the same effort that the player that did to receive the same reward. (I do know that this rule doesn't apply IRL, but in a competitive'ish game it should).

Edit: Minor typos

Sk0n3ny · August 2016

I think giving the post attention is even worse than the ones asking for and easy mode.......

Hutch679 · August 2016

jakeedmundson wrote: »

Its funny that people get mad about others getting gear.... "you didn't WORK for it! L2P!".... really? so what. relax.

why does it matter? If you can beat the arena... awesome. congrats, really! That means you shouldn't have any issues beating a player that can't beat the arena even if they had mal weapons. So again, what does it matter?

If you want to feel rewarded in life, go do volunteer work or get a degree or something... i dunno, anything. Just don't look to this game to feel accomplished all the time... especially that arena.
This is a game. Its meant for entertainment and fun. In an mmo, GROUP content is fun. Yes, farming dungeons and trials gets annoying sometimes but at least you're with your friends doing something together. If you prefer solo content... there's always skyrim. At least in 4-person content you're not stuck for weeks or months in single, solo instance farming for a weapon you might never find.

Mal arena is junk solo content and next to no one would be doing it if those weapons weren't locked in there.
I'm all for a change to that current system to make the weapons attainable through other means. I wouldn't care if they made them boe so people could sell the things! Just do SOMETHING so those of us who don't have the time to invest in this arena can get the gear one way or another.

The one alternative to making mal weapons reachable to most players... would be to make the master weapons from DSA worth getting. So far, only a couple of them might be worth using. I'm glad they revamped them and all, but they don't quite match mal weapons.

I'll be honest with you. You can't use time as a complaint for not being able to beat it. There is a save feature. Not to mention people that regularly beat VMA do so in about an hour even with out maelstrom weapons.

Serious question though not attacking you. How much time have you invested in leveling champion points? Farming materials? Farming gold? Leveling skills? It's all a grind man. VMA is a grind. The people that have beat didn't clear it their first try in an hour. My first clear took 12 hours total over the course of a week. My second clear took 3 hours. Third and so on I regularly clear it in about 1hr 10mins ish. Once you learn the mechanics you'll be surprised how easy it actually is. It's not fair for someone who doesn't take the time to learn mechanics and wants things handed to them by doing something as simple as paying gold for an item.

Don't you feel a sense of satisfaction when you work to get something? So is in life. People shouldn't be gifted with things, instead they should bust their @$$ for them and earn it.

Keep grinding man. No way will any forum posts get ZOS to nerf the difficulty of VMA. The time you spent reading and writing your posts you could have invested into learning round mechanics.

GreenhaloX · August 2016

I guess that is why it is such a reward for completely such a hard trial as vMA. Although, it would be nice to get such weapon from normal Maelstrom drops; however, with normal Maelstrom being so easy, I just think it will devalue the Maelstrom weapon if it becomes available after completing the normal Maelstrom. The Maelstrom weapon can also be viewed and valued sentimentally by many because vMA is so damn tough, and those actually completing it have the bragging rights. So, when you see someone with a Maelstrom weapon or even a flawless conqueror title, you know that dude or dudette is a bad ass with bragging rights. So, if such weapon is being available from normal Maelstrom, you will wonder, has that dude/dudette actually finished vMA?

Similar to the 12-player trials. In itself, trials are freaking brutal, with mini-bosses' heath bar into the 4-6 millions and big bosses upward to 25 millions.. and with the recent Hist trial with the bosses in the 60-80 millions. However, there is a certain that many love to do just to get the good loots. They will nerf that certain trial to a very low level, complete it in such a short period of time, but still get the good loots that is CP 150 or 160. So, you can't really brag about being a bad ass for doing that such trial. Big however, for a trial such as the Maw, where you can't nerf it, you can have some bragging rights for completing it; particularly in veteran mode.. same with the Hist trial.

Mortehl · August 2016

jakeedmundson wrote: »

Its funny that people get mad about others getting gear.... "you didn't WORK for it! L2P!".... really? so what. relax.

why does it matter? If you can beat the arena... awesome. congrats, really! That means you shouldn't have any issues beating a player that can't beat the arena even if they had mal weapons. So again, what does it matter?

If you want to feel rewarded in life, go do volunteer work or get a degree or something... i dunno, anything. Just don't look to this game to feel accomplished all the time... especially that arena.
This is a game. Its meant for entertainment and fun. In an mmo, GROUP content is fun. Yes, farming dungeons and trials gets annoying sometimes but at least you're with your friends doing something together. If you prefer solo content... there's always skyrim. At least in 4-person content you're not stuck for weeks or months in single, solo instance farming for a weapon you might never find.

Mal arena is junk solo content and next to no one would be doing it if those weapons weren't locked in there.
I'm all for a change to that current system to make the weapons attainable through other means. I wouldn't care if they made them boe so people could sell the things! Just do SOMETHING so those of us who don't have the time to invest in this arena can get the gear one way or another.

The one alternative to making mal weapons reachable to most players... would be to make the master weapons from DSA worth getting. So far, only a couple of them might be worth using. I'm glad they revamped them and all, but they don't quite match mal weapons.

VMSA is so important because the ramp up in trials for normal does nothing to teach situational awareness. It's the only place you can send people to go learn how to not die in popcorn for instance.

I'm building a team for trials in ESO and you can clearly see the difference between people who have at least gotten far in vmsa if not regularly complete it versus those who don't by looking at who gets killed by popcorn. I resisted for a long time making vmsa a requirement to raid vet trials, but it's reached that point because of this.

Those weapons are a just reward for what it takes and I'm sorry you don't have the time or inclination to challenge yourself but you're completely wrong. This is well and truly a learn to play thing in the broadest terms.

ButtersEP · August 2016

No, they should not. Go struggle like everybody else did.

jakeedmundson · August 2016

Milvan wrote: »

jakeedmundson wrote: »

Its funny that people get mad about others getting gear.... "you didn't WORK for it! L2P!".... really? so what. relax.

why does it matter? If you can beat the arena... awesome. congrats, really! That means you shouldn't have any issues beating a player that can't beat the arena even if they had mal weapons. So again, what does it matter?

If you want to feel rewarded in life, go do volunteer work or get a degree or something... i dunno, anything. Just don't look to this game to feel accomplished all the time... especially that arena.
This is a game. Its meant for entertainment and fun. In an mmo, GROUP content is fun. Yes, farming dungeons and trials gets annoying sometimes but at least you're with your friends doing something together. If you prefer solo content... there's always skyrim. At least in 4-person content you're not stuck for weeks or months in single, solo instance farming for a weapon you might never find.

Mal arena is junk solo content and next to no one would be doing it if those weapons weren't locked in there.
I'm all for a change to that current system to make the weapons attainable through other means. I wouldn't care if they made them boe so people could sell the things! Just do SOMETHING so those of us who don't have the time to invest in this arena can get the gear one way or another.

The one alternative to making mal weapons reachable to most players... would be to make the master weapons from DSA worth getting. So far, only a couple of them might be worth using. I'm glad they revamped them and all, but they don't quite match mal weapons.

Not sure if this a troll bait, or really serious.
First of all, bringing up RL in to a game discussion is lame, dull and shallow.

But this is a cooperative-competitive'ish online game. The equip sets will help to set up the outcome of a fight (pvp or pve). It's all about the merit, if the people spends some time thinking about a good build, farming up equips and improving his gameplay he earned the merit to be better rewarded than the player that didn't. This is a competitive game after all, merit needs to be proportinally rewarded. The player will set up the example and people will try to get better to also have access to the same gear and to learn the gameplay.

It's not fair that the player that didn't put the same effort that the player that did to receive the same reward. (I do know that this rule doesn't apply IRL, but in a competitive'ish game it should).

Edit: Minor typos

Ha i'm not trying to be mean or troll anyone, honestly. I just don't understand it. that's all.

Competitive'ish though - i like that word. And i definitely understand how its at least a little competitive in pve between guilds.
But this game isn't called The Elder Scrolls - Cyrodil Unlimited....pvp is one small section to this game. And i already mentioned i absolutely agree that they should keep content hard. Just not lock things behind solo content on an MMO.

But with your idea of earning your own rewards, we shouldn't have ANY sales on traders then. If someone buys a stack of leather, they didn't work for it... its not fair to the people that did work for it, right? They can MAKE BiS gear with that leather... and they did no work to get it. The same goes for literally anything you buy from traders. Why do you buy mats? potions? glyphs? or set gear pieces?... Why would someone spend a million gold on a sharpened elegant sword? Just to save the time and effort of doing/finding it themselves. That is all.
The same concept would relate to the mal weapons being sold at the trader.

Just to be clear again, I do not think mal weapons should drop in normal. To me, its 100% the fact that its solo game play that you need to dump a ton of time and resources into... its a non interest for a lot of people.

raidentenshu_ESO · August 2016

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Seriously the weapon effects are so powerful that its make a huge gap between those who have them and those who don't.
There is really no other way to get it, you can'y buy it you can't trade it and friends can't help you.

Let the weapons have a small chance to drop in normal MSA and in blue and make them like now 100% chance in veteran and can drop in yellow, just like all other items in the game. Even a cp150 drop would be fine.

Also there will always be leader boards and scores in veteran mode, but MSA weapons are just too strong to be so hard to get

Why does it bother you so much so that you want to dictate who gets what? So what if players get weapons in nMS. How does it impact you and your game-play?

Ch4mpTW · August 2016

maxjapank wrote: »

Master and Maelstrom weapons should have a chance to drop from Gold pvp rewards.

No! Absolutely not! I'm tired of the PVP crowd getting handed freebies. First the vendor that gives undaunted sets, and now that? Please no. Ew. Just no.

DRXHarbinger · August 2016

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

maxjapank wrote: »

Master and Maelstrom weapons should have a chance to drop from Gold pvp rewards.

No! Absolutely not! I'm tired of the PVP crowd getting handed freebies. First the vendor that gives undaunted sets, and now that? Please no. Ew. Just no.

Innit. So sweaty heal bots get the best weapons too? How that's deserved I have no idea. I run around spamming mutagen and repairing walls for my vma gear.....riiiiggghhhtttt.

raidentenshu_ESO · August 2016

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

maxjapank wrote: »

Master and Maelstrom weapons should have a chance to drop from Gold pvp rewards.

No! Absolutely not! I'm tired of the PVP crowd getting handed freebies. First the vendor that gives undaunted sets, and now that? Please no. Ew. Just no.

If the the Maelstrom weapons gets added to the gold pvp rewards then it's only fair that it also gets added to the undaunted gold pledge.

Parafrost · August 2016

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Seriously the weapon effects are so powerful that its make a huge gap between those who have them and those who don't.
There is really no other way to get it, you can'y buy it you can't trade it and friends can't help you.

Let the weapons have a small chance to drop in normal MSA and in blue and make them like now 100% chance in veteran and can drop in yellow, just like all other items in the game. Even a cp150 drop would be fine.

Also there will always be leader boards and scores in veteran mode, but MSA weapons are just too strong to be so hard to get

In terms of pvp, 2 piece lekis with weapon dmg enchant is better than maelstrom. Pve, the maelstrom dagger/axe are top notch. Maelstrom destro isn't that big of a deal. 3 moondancer makes more of a difference and maelstrom destro can be substituted with another weapon since it is only used for the back bar.

Parafrost · August 2016

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

maxjapank wrote: »

Master and Maelstrom weapons should have a chance to drop from Gold pvp rewards.

No! Absolutely not! I'm tired of the PVP crowd getting handed freebies. First the vendor that gives undaunted sets, and now that? Please no. Ew. Just no.

If the the Maelstrom weapons gets added to the gold pvp rewards then it's only fair that it also gets added to the undaunted gold pledge.

Ohh how about a 1% chance to drop from the daily dungeon quest(only from vet) and 10% from weekly leaderboards. Thatll get ppl doing dungeons more.

jakeedmundson · August 2016

Hutch679 wrote: »

jakeedmundson wrote: »

Its funny that people get mad about others getting gear.... "you didn't WORK for it! L2P!".... really? so what. relax.

why does it matter? If you can beat the arena... awesome. congrats, really! That means you shouldn't have any issues beating a player that can't beat the arena even if they had mal weapons. So again, what does it matter?

If you want to feel rewarded in life, go do volunteer work or get a degree or something... i dunno, anything. Just don't look to this game to feel accomplished all the time... especially that arena.
This is a game. Its meant for entertainment and fun. In an mmo, GROUP content is fun. Yes, farming dungeons and trials gets annoying sometimes but at least you're with your friends doing something together. If you prefer solo content... there's always skyrim. At least in 4-person content you're not stuck for weeks or months in single, solo instance farming for a weapon you might never find.

Mal arena is junk solo content and next to no one would be doing it if those weapons weren't locked in there.
I'm all for a change to that current system to make the weapons attainable through other means. I wouldn't care if they made them boe so people could sell the things! Just do SOMETHING so those of us who don't have the time to invest in this arena can get the gear one way or another.

The one alternative to making mal weapons reachable to most players... would be to make the master weapons from DSA worth getting. So far, only a couple of them might be worth using. I'm glad they revamped them and all, but they don't quite match mal weapons.

I'll be honest with you. You can't use time as a complaint for not being able to beat it. There is a save feature. Not to mention people that regularly beat VMA do so in about an hour even with out maelstrom weapons.

Serious question though not attacking you. How much time have you invested in leveling champion points? Farming materials? Farming gold? Leveling skills? It's all a grind man. VMA is a grind. The people that have beat didn't clear it their first try in an hour. My first clear took 12 hours total over the course of a week. My second clear took 3 hours. Third and so on I regularly clear it in about 1hr 10mins ish. Once you learn the mechanics you'll be surprised how easy it actually is. It's not fair for someone who doesn't take the time to learn mechanics and wants things handed to them by doing something as simple as paying gold for an item.

Don't you feel a sense of satisfaction when you work to get something? So is in life. People shouldn't be gifted with things, instead they should bust their @$$ for them and earn it.

Keep grinding man. No way will any forum posts get ZOS to nerf the difficulty of VMA. The time you spent reading and writing your posts you could have invested into learning round mechanics.

I know its a grind... but mal arena is the only one i can't do with friends, its just not enjoyable... It's purely a non-interest for me in an mmo.
I can get mats and gold doing group dungeons and selling items on the traders and cp just happens when you play the game. If they made the arena a two person instance or something i could understand that.... but not solo.

raidentenshu_ESO · August 2016

Parafrost wrote: »

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

maxjapank wrote: »

Master and Maelstrom weapons should have a chance to drop from Gold pvp rewards.

No! Absolutely not! I'm tired of the PVP crowd getting handed freebies. First the vendor that gives undaunted sets, and now that? Please no. Ew. Just no.

If the the Maelstrom weapons gets added to the gold pvp rewards then it's only fair that it also gets added to the undaunted gold pledge.

Ohh how about a 1% chance to drop from the daily dungeon quest(only from vet) and 10% from weekly leaderboards. Thatll get ppl doing dungeons more.

The percentage is just horrible.

Izaki · August 2016

Lieblingsjunge wrote: »

KaiVox22 wrote: »

Lieblingsjunge wrote: »

That's why they're strong, though. They're hard to get. And you can even use Master's-weapons from vDSA. At least there you're 4 in it together

If it would be easy to aquire the high-end gear, that would be silly. You gotta expect you need to work for something. And EVERYONE can do vMA. Just practise :>

I disagree. In my opinion the hardest content in the game should drop only gear that's marginally stronger, not so much stronger that it's pretty much guaranteed for most successful builds.

Then again I understand ZOS's reasoning to put such powerful gear behind this wall because it forces people who have no interest in hard solo content to play it. Otherwise there wouldn't be that much interest or people playing MSA.

It's only marginally stronger. It's not critical to not have it. You might do a bit less Deeps in PvE, but that's about it. And a bit less dmg in PvP. Butif you aim for end-game content, clearing vMA should be one of the things you should do. If you don't plan on going end-game content, you don't really need the weapons, either. It's such a small difference, no one will care whether you have the weapons or not.

Its not a small difference though, look at those dual wield weapons. 3k damage on your next DoT. I have like 5 precise daggers now, a sharpened one just doesn't seem to drop...

Izaki · August 2016

AGrz5585 wrote: »

I'll go ahead and say sure to nma dropping maelstrom weapons...

But only in decisive, charged, and training traits

^THIS and in CP150

Izaki · August 2016

xskinzcity wrote: »

Vmsa made me smash controllers but NO. Weapons should only drop from veteran mode. Normal mode is a complete joke lol.

Had to buy a new elite controller after my first vMA complete. When people say first time is an expensive undertaking they mean it! When I died while that boss was at like 1% the controller went flying... So yeah. Take a crap controller for the first try.

Ch4mpTW · August 2016

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

maxjapank wrote: »

Master and Maelstrom weapons should have a chance to drop from Gold pvp rewards.

No! Absolutely not! I'm tired of the PVP crowd getting handed freebies. First the vendor that gives undaunted sets, and now that? Please no. Ew. Just no.

If the the Maelstrom weapons gets added to the gold pvp rewards then it's only fair that it also gets added to the undaunted gold pledge.

Now THAT I could work with, if that be the case. Monster helm AND maelstrom weapon from that gold chest...? Yes please.

GreenhaloX · August 2016

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

xskinzcity wrote: »

Vmsa made me smash controllers but NO. Weapons should only drop from veteran mode. Normal mode is a complete joke lol.

Had to buy a new elite controller after my first vMA complete. When people say first time is an expensive undertaking they mean it! When I died while that boss was at like 1% the controller went flying... So yeah. Take a crap controller for the first try.

Well.. at least you both didn't throw your console at the wall or out of the window.

code65536 · August 2016

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

maxjapank wrote: »

Master and Maelstrom weapons should have a chance to drop from Gold pvp rewards.

No! Absolutely not! I'm tired of the PVP crowd getting handed freebies. First the vendor that gives undaunted sets, and now that? Please no. Ew. Just no.

If the the Maelstrom weapons gets added to the gold pvp rewards then it's only fair that it also gets added to the undaunted gold pledge.

It shouldn't be added to either. Besides, the only Maelstrom weapon good for PvP is the 2-hander. Everything else is outclassed in PvP by Master weapons or by weapons of other sets, either dropped or crafted.

Maelstrom weapons should drop from Maelstrom, period.

If you only play a tank, you should know that the Maelstrom tank weapon is a steaming pile of decon trash, so you shouldn't care.

If you only play a healer, you should know that the Maelstrom restoration staff is good only for solo play (and if you mostly play solo, then vMA should be your thing anyway) and is outclassed by the Master staff for group play.

If you play PvE DPS, the Maelstrom weapons are best-in-slot, but if you want to be serious about doing good PvE DPS, you should have the skill to beat Maelstrom.

If you play PvP, the Maelstrom 2-hander is great (the rest suck), but you'll notice that many of the high scorers in vMA are primarily PvP players. That's because Maelstrom is unlike any other piece of PvE content and is what one PvPer describes as a "choreographed 1vX". If you're good at solo PvP, you'll find that Maelstrom is fairly easy for you and a good fit for your existing skillset.

Shadesofkin · August 2016

I feel for the players who are struggling on Normal Maelstrom, I really do. I hope they develop their style in such a way that they'll be able to complete it quickly and easily.

That being said, it's unreasonable to ask for Maelstrom Weapons from Normal Mode, they're an endgame reward, normal Mode is not an Endgame instance.

Saturn · August 2016

I agree that there should be a way to get these weapons without having to beat veteran mode, as some players just can't do it on veteran. I seem to remember that in the past blue vr13 master weapons would drop from nDSA (not sure if this is still the case after the upscale).

People that want to get their hands on maelstrom weapons for a healer or a tank, but who have no characters to do it with, are at a real disadvantage with this kind of system.

Also, whoever thought putting the best weapons behind a singeplayer barrier was a good idea deserves a spanking. It's frustrating wanting to get these weapons and having to ignore your friends to do so. I mean it is an MMO we are talking about after all.

Hopefully with the next arena (if they make another one) it won't be a solo instance again, but rather a 2man or 4man, so you can actually do it with friends.

timidobserver · August 2016

This isn't good enough for me. I'd like Maelstrom weapons to have a chance to appear in your inventory when you log into the game.