Mag temps need a nerf.

DisgracefulMind · August 2016

"I don't want to discuss balancing, I just want to cry for nerfs." This mentality is what keeps ruining this game.

The Uninvited · August 2016

How about instead of nerfing Templars, we buff some skills of the other classes?

Derra · August 2016

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Sounds like a Black Rose issue .

Reactive is what you want to look at.

Rylana · August 2016

Xsorus wrote: »

Chances are Magplar aren't running Blackrose, they're running Reactive...

or kags. kags screams healplarrezbot sooo hard

Sugaroverdose · August 2016

BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »

Oxwood wrote: »

Sounds like a 12p issue.

No, it's not a "l2p issue". I just seen a temp with blackrose take on 4 skilled players.
he lasted for 2 minutes before dying, 2 MINUTES! So please explain how it's a "l2p issue".

Do you have any proves that it was skilled players? Maybe templar just a little more skilled?

The Uninvited wrote: »

How about instead of nerfing Templars, we buff some skills of the other classes?

Bah, there's so much buffs that light armor magicka build will not survive even 1s vs stamina combo without stacking shields or blocking, there's too much buffs, everything must be reworked, and under rework i mean nerfing to the ground.

Yolokin_Swagonborn · August 2016

Problem is champion system as it always is. Take away 25% extra healing 20% extra healing taken, and infinite regen, and templars, (and pretty much everything else in the game) is balanced again.

soll · August 2016

leepalmer95 wrote: »

I was dueling a templar today, he had major defile on, he had no mending on.

He healed for 14k in 1 BoL.

Like really?.

as long as heal is calculated as damage, we'll see it. increasing crit chance, crit damage and blessed in CP + shadow.
funny, that this heals can be reached without much loss of damage itself.
but, remember, that it's on crit. you'll not see it all the time

Firerock2 · August 2016

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Problem is champion system as it always is. Take away 25% extra healing 20% extra healing taken, and infinite regen, and templars, (and pretty much everything else in the game) is balanced again.

Makes sense, I play on Azura's and I really don't see these unkillable Templar tanks. Maybe it's just a bias or maybe its just the poorly conceived CP system that needs to be reworked or removed from the game but never will be.

Derra · August 2016

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Problem is champion system as it always is. Take away 25% extra healing 20% extra healing taken, and infinite regen, and templars, (and pretty much everything else in the game) is balanced again.

You can pretty much take away major vitality again and things would become a lot more balanced.

I´m still baffled that someone at zos thought that one was a good idea. But as long as that´s not changed: Wtb potion that increases shield strengh on self by 30% aswell as a buff that increases strengh of cast shields by 25%.

Firerock2 · August 2016

Derra wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Problem is champion system as it always is. Take away 25% extra healing 20% extra healing taken, and infinite regen, and templars, (and pretty much everything else in the game) is balanced again.

You can pretty much take away major vitality again and things would become a lot more balanced.

I´m still baffled that someone at zos thought that one was a good idea. But as long as that´s not changed: Wtb potion that increases shield strengh on self by 30% aswell as a buff that increases strengh of cast shields by 25%.

Can you get a debuff that reduces shields by 30% to go with that as well?

Kas · August 2016

just fix reactive's interaction with snare to reflect the tooltip. everything else is somewhat fine, imho

Minalan · August 2016

Firerock2 wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Problem is champion system as it always is. Take away 25% extra healing 20% extra healing taken, and infinite regen, and templars, (and pretty much everything else in the game) is balanced again.

Makes sense, I play on Azura's and I really don't see these unkillable Templar tanks. Maybe it's just a bias or maybe its just the poorly conceived CP system that needs to be reworked or removed from the game but never will be.

And this is why Azuras is getting so popular lately.

No serious. Healing takes what, a 15% battle spirit reduction?

Then you have +25/20 healing done and taken in CP.
Then you have major mending.
Then you get four second procs of 30% healing I ncrease from Malubeth.
Then you get heavy armor bonuses.
Then you take the five piece reactive helping 35% less damage on every stun.
Then you take vampire for another 30% damage reduction with undead passive under half health.

Then you get a designer, @Wrobel - who needs to be fired and shown the door. Seriously. Send security now and drag him out of the door before it's too late.

Note that none of the above means that a Templar is any less dangerous. They still can put out impressive damage with a two hander. I don't know where this 'no damage tank' myth comes from...

Edit: sorry if I ruined anyone's super secret cancer build, but IDGAF. It's cancer.

Kas · August 2016

Minalan wrote: »

Firerock2 wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Problem is champion system as it always is. Take away 25% extra healing 20% extra healing taken, and infinite regen, and templars, (and pretty much everything else in the game) is balanced again.

Makes sense, I play on Azura's and I really don't see these unkillable Templar tanks. Maybe it's just a bias or maybe its just the poorly conceived CP system that needs to be reworked or removed from the game but never will be.

And this is why Azuras is getting so popular lately.

No serious. Healing takes what, a 15% battle spirit reduction?

Then you have +25/20 healing done and taken in CP.
Then you have major mending.
Then you get four second procs of 30% healing I ncrease from Malubeth.
Then you get heavy armor bonuses.
Then you take the five piece reactive helping 35% less damage on every stun.
Then you take vampire for another 30% damage reduction with undead passive under half health.

Then you get a designer, @Wrobel - who needs to be fired and shown the door. Seriously. Send security now and drag him out of the door before it's too late.

Note that none of the above means that a Templar is any less dangerous. They still can put out impressive damage with a two hander. I don't know where this 'no damage tank' myth comes from...

Edit: sorry if I ruined anyone's super secret cancer build, but IDGAF. It's cancer.

lmao...
let alone you don't know your facts in the first place, you could at least check them real quick before taking the time to create a wall of text that is entirely based on a wrong assumption

Derra · August 2016

Firerock2 wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Problem is champion system as it always is. Take away 25% extra healing 20% extra healing taken, and infinite regen, and templars, (and pretty much everything else in the game) is balanced again.

You can pretty much take away major vitality again and things would become a lot more balanced.

I´m still baffled that someone at zos thought that one was a good idea. But as long as that´s not changed: Wtb potion that increases shield strengh on self by 30% aswell as a buff that increases strengh of cast shields by 25%.

Can you get a debuff that reduces shields by 30% to go with that as well?

Sure fine by me if it´s only accessible to a magica based weaponline

- as that´s the case with healdebuffs and stamina.

Avenias · August 2016

BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »

Most annoying thing in pvp right now is fighting a mag temp in heavy armor. Dodge roll was penalized, streak was penalized and tanking was penalized.
It's about time we penalize heals too, my idea is having a 2 sec cooldown on a heal ability...or just nerf blackrose.

Go and use cheat engine or macros

Cinbri · August 2016

Most nerfed since release class should be nerfed...
Sure, it will fix all problems in pvp.

Sugaroverdose · August 2016

Cinbri wrote: »

Most nerfed since release class should be nerfed...
Sure, it will fix all problems in pvp.

Hell yeah, it will make pvp stamina-only preference, and while it doesn't, every stamina dmgstacker will cry for magicka nerf. Really interesting, when @Wrobel will release such nerf(he will, i promise) what people will cry about next?

Vaoh · August 2016

Cinbri wrote: »

Most nerfed since release class should be nerfed...
Sure, it will fix all problems in pvp.

Magicka Templar spotted

Sugaroverdose · August 2016

Vaoh wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

Most nerfed since release class should be nerfed...
Sure, it will fix all problems in pvp.

Magicka Templar spotted

so what? he's right actually, every dlc release comes with magplar nerf, sometimes this nerfs even wasn't written to release notes.

PrednisoneQueen · August 2016

I used to wear light armor in pvp. Problem is when you're a templar you have 4+ players target you. I wear 5 heavy now and I can survive much better. The only way I can 1v1 anyone with this setup is if they run out of stam on me and I can slowly crush them.

Sounds like you need more burst damage. Clever alchemist is a great craft-able set for nightblades.

Qbiken · August 2016

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

I agree that with certain sets Templars are over performing in a few areas of PvP . Reactive , Malubeth , Black Rose all still really strong with Templar . An I know some people with other classes are tired of their sets getting nerfed over an over . Maybe it will be that time again soon where Templar gets hit with whiffle bat .

But just because a class+gearset are really strong doesn´t mean it shall be nerfed in my opinion. A good th

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

"I don't want to discuss balancing, I just want to cry for nerfs." This mentality is what keeps ruining this game.

Almost worth sending a kuta ingame, just for knowing some people have their brains in the right place XD

Cinbri · August 2016

Vaoh wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

Most nerfed since release class should be nerfed...
Sure, it will fix all problems in pvp.

Magicka Templar spotted

Ye, one of those who refused to reroll like 80% of templar pvp population during IC-Orsinium timeframe when class was stomped into the ground.

leepalmer95 · August 2016

Minalan wrote: »

Firerock2 wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Problem is champion system as it always is. Take away 25% extra healing 20% extra healing taken, and infinite regen, and templars, (and pretty much everything else in the game) is balanced again.

Makes sense, I play on Azura's and I really don't see these unkillable Templar tanks. Maybe it's just a bias or maybe its just the poorly conceived CP system that needs to be reworked or removed from the game but never will be.

And this is why Azuras is getting so popular lately.

No serious. Healing takes what, a 15% battle spirit reduction?

Then you have +25/20 healing done and taken in CP.
Then you have major mending.
Then you get four second procs of 30% healing I ncrease from Malubeth.
Then you get heavy armor bonuses.
Then you take the five piece reactive helping 35% less damage on every stun.
Then you take vampire for another 30% damage reduction with undead passive under half health.

Then you get a designer, @Wrobel - who needs to be fired and shown the door. Seriously. Send security now and drag him out of the door before it's too late.

Note that none of the above means that a Templar is any less dangerous. They still can put out impressive damage with a two hander. I don't know where this 'no damage tank' myth comes from...

Edit: sorry if I ruined anyone's super secret cancer build, but IDGAF. It's cancer.

A wall of text... the first thing you said is wrong.

The fact you think healing is only 15% reduced shows your opinions should be ignored.

It's 50%..

Sugaroverdose · August 2016

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Firerock2 wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Problem is champion system as it always is. Take away 25% extra healing 20% extra healing taken, and infinite regen, and templars, (and pretty much everything else in the game) is balanced again.

Makes sense, I play on Azura's and I really don't see these unkillable Templar tanks. Maybe it's just a bias or maybe its just the poorly conceived CP system that needs to be reworked or removed from the game but never will be.

And this is why Azuras is getting so popular lately.

No serious. Healing takes what, a 15% battle spirit reduction?

Then you have +25/20 healing done and taken in CP.
Then you have major mending.
Then you get four second procs of 30% healing I ncrease from Malubeth.
Then you get heavy armor bonuses.
Then you take the five piece reactive helping 35% less damage on every stun.
Then you take vampire for another 30% damage reduction with undead passive under half health.

Then you get a designer, @Wrobel - who needs to be fired and shown the door. Seriously. Send security now and drag him out of the door before it's too late.

Note that none of the above means that a Templar is any less dangerous. They still can put out impressive damage with a two hander. I don't know where this 'no damage tank' myth comes from...

Edit: sorry if I ruined anyone's super secret cancer build, but IDGAF. It's cancer.

A wall of text... the first thing you said is wrong.

The fact you think healing is only 15% reduced shows your opinions should be ignored.

It's 50%..

Who needs to rtfm if he knows better?

frozywozy · August 2016

I've been saying this forever. They need to buff magplars. Can't even tank wolves anymore at this point.

Ghostbane · August 2016

"OMG Black Rose is too OP on magicka builds"

"OMG Black Rose is too OP on stamina builds"

Sounds like balance to me.

Emasculate · August 2016

In b4 aggressive comments from Magicka Templar class players, because they like the position their class is in now and they refuse to see it from other player's perspectives. This goes out to you for making this thread, because you are about to get a lot of hate for trying to bring light on the issue of perma-block casting breath of life spams into bats, with radiants that reach 30 meters. Hey this goes out to you reactive templars with malubeth, you the real MvP's of Cyrodiil.

Skander · August 2016

Yes!Nerf the only magicka class that is awsome as it is!

Goddamit..

Aedaryl · August 2016

Ghostbane wrote: »

"OMG Black Rose is too OP on magicka builds"

"OMG Black Rose is too OP on stamina builds"

Sounds like balance to me.

So nerf Black Rose, problem solve

Qbiken · August 2016

Vulsin wrote: »

In b4 aggressive comments from Magicka Templar class players, because they like the position their class is in now and they refuse to see it from other player's perspectives. This goes out to you for making this thread, because you are about to get a lot of hate for trying to bring light on the issue of perma-block casting breath of life spams into bats, with radiants that reach 30 meters. Hey this goes out to you reactive templars with malubeth, you the real MvP's of Cyrodiil.

Yeah, because every comment that isn´t in line with OP must be a butthurt magplar....The logic is real