The daily Undaunted pledge is very unbalanced! ZoS Please answer me.

cpuScientist · July 2016

But too many players get wrapped up in their perspective. I more than understand a dungeon being to hard I took blows in VMA. I took blows in VICP I took horrible still not fully recovered blows in VCOA. And I did remember thinking this crap is so hard, how can other players beat this why can't I? So I asked for help got a guildie to run it with me he just about solos the Valkyn and then helps me with my horrendous build. And since them VCOA has been easy with decent groups. Duo'd it once never got the chance to solo it though, I could now though. It has become STUPID easy. And I weap at the state of my favorite dungeon, my proving ground. I solo'd the Titan boss and felt so DAMN AMAZING for doing so at vet 3 no less. It was scaled to the vet 5 in our group. And I was ecstatic. I then got roundly destroyed by Valkyn but whatever it was so fun. And beating it for the fist time with that original group was freaking CRAZY, we were so happy for days.

But if everything was ROFL easy I would never have gotten that and would have just had another mild gaming experience in this age of hand holding players becuase they complain soooo much. Ughhhh!!!

MaxwellC · July 2016

This is how nerfs start, you know instead of offering these 3 dungeons (VCOA,ICP&WGT) we should just remove it and return the difficulty since players are struggling on the pledges due to their own reasons whether it be lack of leveling, lack of asking a damn question on how mechanics work, or unwillingness to learn about the dungeon.

I seriously hope ZOS adds more challenging dungeons that won't be nerf'd because players can't complete it, in-case a lot of you have forgotten but mmo type games always die out when it's a cake walk so if you want this game to thrive you gotta have a hard PvE alongside it's challenging PvP (Since you gotta fight lag in PvP the most OP element in all of tameriel)

mikwin · July 2016

They could make vet icp and wgt a guaranteed drop for what ever it is you want from the chest and make the normal versions drop gold keys as well. I haven't beat icp yet, which i think is mainly due to not having a tank and even with one, i doubt that many know how to do it properly.

Personally i think it was ridiculously hard and the other dungeons are to easy, i consider myself a good player its just i use random groups and half the time i end up without a healer or a tank. Its no good nerfing anything but everyone should be able to complete all content with a chance at the best gear. So they could just add another tier and keep everyone happy.

I think everyone can agree that these dungeons are not designed to get beat by random groups and with other problems like i had last night where i couldn't bar swap to my buffs and heals just magnify's the difficulty. I finally got to the last boss on vet maelstrom as well and i think its quite fun, but my dps is no where near high enough to beat it, im watching people on youtube do it, that hit twice as hard as me and say its all easy, well try being a new player and beating it. Alot of ppl dnt have the time to grind for gold sets and undaunted mettle passives, never mind 400 odd cp. There should be another tier and not lock maelstrom weopens behind a wall that only very few players will get.

Ep1kMalware · July 2016

cpuScientist wrote: »

And to your credit OP VICP is the only dungeon left that a bad group can sink you. So maybe you've been in bad groups. But instead of crying NERF NERF NERF. You could have made a topic saying vet ICP is kicking my butt, and I can not get anyone to run it with me. And I can GUARANTEE YOU that these so called "elitists" would have jumped up and helped you guided you or straight up done it with you.

problem is people like OP see all these nerf threads and assume that going fukk blown crybaby is the way to do thingd in eso.

The bottom line is, instead of going crybaby amd asking for nerfs, he could have gone into 'players helping players', stated his situation, and gotten more help than he knew what to do with. but people don't want help, they just want free and easy.

TrueGreenSmoker · July 2016

My friends and I did it it wasnt that hard anymore also i never healed in Vet ICP and we had a tanky guy who never tanked before we crafted some sets before going in and told him what to have on his bar and he was doing fine but lag in PvE was horrible at times but we made it got 2 keys its not easy but not that hard either but we did had a stam dk full DPS and a mag sorc full DPS spamming overload at the bosses. ALSO ZOS fix the synergy at the second boss or do something about the synergys in the game they dont always work or then you see them and you want to do the synergy but then it disappears (same with Sorcs liqued lighting, Dks standard, Temps Nova, Nbs Soul Teth)

Bobby_V_Rockit · August 2016

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

Funkopotamus wrote: »

This is why the visible CP next to people names was a horrible idea.

It does nothing but breed 1337ism and I mean come on man its ESO...

Probably the easiest content of any MMO that I have ever played.. If people are not letting you join in on runs due to your CP number then they are stupid..

ESO content requires you to just ZURG and button smash, so there is no reason for ANYONE to not be allowed to join in on the ZURG runs/ "end game content".

yeah there is, it'a called not listening and killing the group. tsk tsk we should nerf it and hold hands singing carebear songs.

LOL, but that said, I am cp497 and have legendary weapons, chest and legs. I still cant get past the adjudicator or bloodfiend. I just chalk it up to me being bad at it and dont bother other groups anymore when those pledges come up. vCOA I've done many times.

Also, I dont have a functioning headset, I'm always up for advice and strategy, but since sony updated third party headset compatability, I'm ghost

DRXHarbinger · August 2016

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

Funkopotamus wrote: »

This is why the visible CP next to people names was a horrible idea.

It does nothing but breed 1337ism and I mean come on man its ESO...

Probably the easiest content of any MMO that I have ever played.. If people are not letting you join in on runs due to your CP number then they are stupid..

ESO content requires you to just ZURG and button smash, so there is no reason for ANYONE to not be allowed to join in on the ZURG runs/ "end game content".

yeah there is, it'a called not listening and killing the group. tsk tsk we should nerf it and hold hands singing carebear songs.

LOL, but that said, I am cp497 and have legendary weapons, chest and legs. I still cant get past the adjudicator or bloodfiend. I just chalk it up to me being bad at it and dont bother other groups anymore when those pledges come up. vCOA I've done many times.

Also, I dont have a functioning headset, I'm always up for advice and strategy, but since sony updated third party headset compatability, I'm ghost

Overfiend you just go slow. Burn a little, kill the adds as a group and then back on it and repeat.

Adjudicator just nuke it. After the 1st lock up all sorcs go overload and whatever and it's gone. They have nerfed how many adds come out now too.

Pallio · August 2016

The content isn't the problem, very bad pugs have a hard time with everything. Under geared, LESS than optimal build (weee I can be anything and spec anyway I want) and the normal pvp/dps pretending to be a tank or healer to get group....... Hardcore group or even just well geared and builds for specific roles get through everything just fine. Basically be good at something and find 3 others that can be good too and you are all set.

Qbiken · August 2016

Mortehl wrote: »

"I have less time invested then everyone else and can't do hard content. This is unfair, I want welfare keys!" ~ OP

I see this attitude way to often in the forums..

But to the point of the thread. vICP was nerfed (togehter with vWGT) and is easier now to complete than it was before. High DPS is a bonus in vICP (was even moreimportan IMO before nerf). And since you´re CP187 (I take it that you play as DD in this case) it can be difficult to achieve a satisfying DPS (compared to someone who´s reached the current cap at 531). vICP is mostly mechanics, the better you know them the easier the dungeon becomes. Practice is the key and you will get the hang of it.

Now to the point were you think it´s unfair that you can´t get goldkeys just because the dungeon doesn´t suit you (at the moment). Just because some content is difficult doesn´t mean it´s unfair. In your case (just a theory, can´t confirm since I haven´t seen you doing vICP) earning more CP and/or better gear might be the key. In other words you just need to spend more time in the dungeon (and the game). It´s not unfair that someone who has spend more time at the game might have an easier time for vICP than someone who has less exp.

Ep1kMalware · August 2016

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

Funkopotamus wrote: »

This is why the visible CP next to people names was a horrible idea.

It does nothing but breed 1337ism and I mean come on man its ESO...

Probably the easiest content of any MMO that I have ever played.. If people are not letting you join in on runs due to your CP number then they are stupid..

ESO content requires you to just ZURG and button smash, so there is no reason for ANYONE to not be allowed to join in on the ZURG runs/ "end game content".

yeah there is, it'a called not listening and killing the group. tsk tsk we should nerf it and hold hands singing carebear songs.

LOL, but that said, I am cp497 and have legendary weapons, chest and legs. I still cant get past the adjudicator or bloodfiend. I just chalk it up to me being bad at it and dont bother other groups anymore when those pledges come up. vCOA I've done many times.

Also, I dont have a functioning headset, I'm always up for advice and strategy, but since sony updated third party headset compatability, I'm ghost

max cp and gold gear don't do much without strategy. I helped a guy out on his build some time ago but he never listened I guess. We wound up doing a blood spawn for him (some months later) to see how he performed as he was interested in a vet maw progression group. he clocked about 3.3k dps xD.

I can't speak for mag toons but for stam adjudicator has alot to do with damage mitigation while you atk the boss.Self heals like vigor/rally and about 60pnts into hardy/ele defender cut damage imensely, pi=owered 2h is bomb. both fightd are pretty much the same, shrug off damage with your mitigation and use dots, spamables when you can.

as the other guy said the bloodfiend isnt about damage at all, yoj harm it a bit, kill the adds, amd repeat. at half health it spawns a harvester, kill it quick. You can shield bash it to stop it from shooting its orbs.

you play ps4? For some people I like to run it through at a lower cp level so you can feel out the mechanics a bit without getting 1 shot. Seems to help a ton.

Brrrofski · August 2016

NBrookus wrote: »

GreenhaloX wrote: »

First off, I have to say, good and brave of you (or anyone else below the 400 CP) for tackling the vet dungeons on your CP level.. I'm in the min-400 CP, and I haven't tried a vet dungeon yet or even VMA. I say this because before I made it into the 400 CP range, I felt my damage output from my weapon or my damage absorbing abilities were not sufficient enough to handle any vet trial or dungeon. ... Now that I'm in the mid-400 CP, I think I will give it a try and hope I land with a good group of others.

People were running vet dungeons long before 501CP become the new normal. If you can do Blackheart Haven, you can do vet Spindle. Go for it!

Lol, I remember running these at vet 4 with like 30 cp.

People need to just jump in and get to it. If you die, you die.

phaith · August 2016

People like this ruin the game... get your character on par with the dungeons instead of crying, trying to get the dungeons on par with you, ridiculous.

Izaki · August 2016

Tryxus wrote: »

C0wrex wrote: »

Took me two hours to get through vICP

It was long and hard, but worth the pain.

A challenging dungeon, but with terrible rewards...

ZOS, buff Warden set pl0x

That set is pretty good tho. You get a pretty much perma 5k buff to spell resist. Bloodspawn only has a 6% chance to proc 6k along with some ult return. So as a few tanks have said this set is far from useless (unlike that new set)

DRXHarbinger · August 2016

Warden is a great set. I use it on healer and park in my channel focus sitting at 28k res. Tanky as when stacking up. If you're under an aoe it's constantly up and buffs half a trial group.

Brrrofski · August 2016

I'd wear warden on a healer for sure. Not for a tank though. Kinda wasted really.