[Bug] Spell Damage enchantment is not proccing with Force Pulse no matter what

Benemime · August 2016

So, I "burned" my legendary enchantment on my destro staff to test this enchantment that increases weapon AND spell Damage by XXX for 5 seconds.

The weapon enchantment that I'm talking about is this:

(Note: this enchantment is kinda new since the previous version only was buffing Weapon Damage, now it also buffs Spell Damage as well)

And here's what I discover:
I did some light attacks on frogs and these lvl 1 trash "mobs" (like rats, spiders...etc) but the enchantment wasn't proccing. So, then I used Force Pulse on them, with the same results. But when I use heavy attack on these mobs, the enchantment procced and I got the bonus (even tho they were killed with one hit, for all of these tests I was using a Lightning Staff)

OK, since those lvl 1 trash mobs aren't meant to test this sort of things, I went to test on mobs at the same level (well, CP 160 mobs actually, since I'm CP 303, but they don't die with one hit anyway). So, when I hit with one single light attack, it procced, so it wasn't bugged with light attacks, good. Same result with heavy attacks, as expected. But, with Force Pulse this enchantment wasn't proccing at all (I did SO many hits, so many tests, before someone suggests, my staff was charged), after that I gave up, I re enchanted my staff back to Shock Damage enchantment, and the shock damage enchantment was working fine with Force Pulse. So, I guess I found a bug.

jeedrzej · August 2016

Enchantments only proc from light and heavy attacks

Benemime · August 2016

jeedrzej wrote: »

Enchantments only proc from light and heavy attacks

No, the shock damage glyph is proccing fine with Force Pulse, I don't know if you read my whole thread, but I've tested it.

psychotic13 · August 2016

Benemime wrote: »

jeedrzej wrote: »

Enchantments only proc from light and heavy attacks

No, the shock damage glyph is proccing fine with Force Pulse, I don't know if you read my whole thread, but I've tested it.

No, they proc from light/heavy attacks, that's how they're intended to work.

Benemime · August 2016

psychotic13 wrote: »

No, they proc from light/heavy attacks, that's how they're intended to work.

Man, I HAVE JUST tested it and it's proccing with Force Pulse, and if you care to do some research you will find people stating that it procs from light/heavy attacks AND weapon abilities that does damage (that aren't AoE) to back it up what I said. I know it won't proc on sorcs spells for example, but the elemental glyphs does procs on staff spells such as Destructive Reach and force pulse.

jeedrzej · August 2016

Seem force pulse + shock damage is bugged. Not in other way.

Poisons proc from weapon skills. NOt enchantments

psychotic13 · August 2016

Benemime wrote: »

psychotic13 wrote: »

No, they proc from light/heavy attacks, that's how they're intended to work.

Man, I HAVE JUST tested it and it's proccing with Force Pulse, and if you care to do some research you will find people stating that it procs from light/heavy attacks AND weapon abilities that does damage (that aren't AoE) to back it up what I said. I know it won't proc on sorcs spells for example, but the elemental glyphs does procs on staff spells such as Destructive Reach and force pulse.

Are you sure you're not just seeing the damage of force pulse? It delivers 3 separate blows, 1 frost, 1 shock and 1 flame.

Benemime · August 2016

psychotic13 wrote: »

Are you sure you're not just seeing the damage of force pulse? It delivers 3 separate blows, 1 frost, 1 shock and 1 flame.

[SNIP] I know force pulse delivers 3 hits. Before re enchanting with shock damage glyph it was hitting with 3 hits, after it was hitting with 4 hits.

[Edited for Baiting]

psychotic13 · August 2016

Benemime wrote: »

psychotic13 wrote: »

Are you sure you're not just seeing the damage of force pulse? It delivers 3 separate blows, 1 frost, 1 shock and 1 flame.

Do you really think I'm that dumb? I know force pulse delivers 3 hits. Before re enchanting with shock damage glyph it was hitting with 3 hits, after it was hitting with 4 hits.

Then I guess the shock glyph is bugged.

Beardimus · August 2016

Nope @Benemime is right. I normally run Flame glyphs and also see 4 stats. 3 from Pulse and the Glyph proc. I've not long gone over to this Glyph, ill check it. Harder as it may just be the graphic not catching up I guess? I.e. There will be no 4th damage hit

Benemime · August 2016

[SNIP] I made a video of proof:

https://youtu.be/L-mXMeNOKxI

Even tho I shouldn't since it was stated by SEVERAL people that weapon enchants does procs on these weapon skills. [SNIP]

[Edited for Flaming & Profanity]

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · August 2016

Dude chill.

Post a screenshot of CLS in the fights you are talking about. Much easier to tell what you are talking about.

This would be nice to know if it didn't work on a fire staff, as that is what most people use anyways.

I know for a fact that weapon skills DO proc and enchant, like pierce armor and absorb stam, as I used that on my tank till I changed the enchant to crusher. That is a another reason I would like to know if this a real thing.

psychotic13 · August 2016

Benemime wrote: »

[SNIP] I made a video of proof: https://youtu.be/L-mXMeNOKxI

Even tho I shouldn't since it was stated by SEVERAL people that weapon enchants does procs on these weapon skills. [SNIP]

[Edited for Flaming & Profanity]

I wasn't trying to [SNIP] you off, but many of people post things on here that are not true and without evidence or are even simply mistaken, I was asking a basic question I wasn't calling you dumb.

[Edited for Profanity]

bebynnag · August 2016

im on xbox, i run this glyff on several characters, using bows, axes, swords, flame staffs, and they proc on light & heavy attacks

hevent used lightning for a while so cant comment, but i did notice it wasnt procing on my resto light attacks but resto heavy was procking it,

Izaki · August 2016

You're going to weave anyways right? So even if its bugged, why would it worry you? That enchantment makes any staff better than the Maelstrom staff as a main bar weapon. (for those who didn't know, Maelstrom enchant works if you cast Wall of Elements on your back bar, so Infused is technically best in slot for MSA Staves... Just like the Bow)

Benemime · August 2016

[SNIP]

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

You're going to weave anyways right? So even if its bugged, why would it worry you?

If I threw away a legendary enchantment/glyph to set this on my current staff of course I was thinking about using it, I was going to test it if it's worth it or not. I would have like to have an option and test new viable options and I just did this post to alert people (and devs) cause I've seen people talking about this new glyph. If it's bugged they should fix it and I'm basically just doing a bug report since they might don't know about this.

[Edited for Flaming]

Reorx_Holybeard · August 2016

psychotic13 wrote: »

Well what you actually said was the spell damage glyph wasn't proc'ing from crushing shock and there was something wrong because of that, and that's wrong as its not supposed to proc like that.

Stop coming across as a moody little child, if I ever see you in cyrodil I will not hesitate to give you a teabag x5

AFAIK, weapon skills have *always* procced the weapon enchantments. The fact that one particular enchant doesn't proc from Crushing Shock would seem to indicate that the specific combination is somehow bugged.

Another related bug: Dual Wield weapon skills only proc (or strongly favor) a particular hand. The first DW skill always procs the off-hand and the remaining skills always proc the main-hand.

psychotic13 · August 2016

Reorx_Holybeard wrote: »

psychotic13 wrote: »

Well what you actually said was the spell damage glyph wasn't proc'ing from crushing shock and there was something wrong because of that, and that's wrong as its not supposed to proc like that.

Stop coming across as a moody little child, if I ever see you in cyrodil I will not hesitate to give you a teabag x5

AFAIK, weapon skills have *always* procced the weapon enchantments. The fact that one particular enchant doesn't proc from Crushing Shock would seem to indicate that the specific combination is somehow bugged.

Another related bug: Dual Wield weapon skills only proc (or strongly favor) a particular hand. The first DW skill always procs the off-hand and the remaining skills always proc the main-hand.

How sure of that are you? It doesn't seem to be the case with me, the glyph on my bow doesn't proc from poison injection, just the actual bow attacks.

Benemime · August 2016

psychotic13 wrote: »

Well what you actually said was the spell damage glyph wasn't proc'ing from crushing shock and there was something wrong because of that, and that's wrong as its not supposed to proc like that.

Says who? You? Any source? It's not only the shock glyph that is proccing with weapon skills as stated above:

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

I know for a fact that weapon skills DO proc an enchant, like pierce armor and absorb stam, as I used that on my tank till I changed the enchant to crusher.

Beardimus wrote: »

normally run Flame glyphs and also see 4 stats. 3 from Pulse and the Glyph proc.

As I said I read before that enchants procs with weapon skills and I found weird that this glyph isn't proccing. But you have no source to back you up, do u?

code65536 · August 2016

@Reorx_Holybeard is correct: Weapon abilities should proc the enchantment. If you don't believe me, go equip dual-wield, steelnado everything, and watch the drain on your wepaon's enchantment charges. No weapon attacks, just abilities.

If a particular skill isn't procing the enchantment, then that's a bug that should be looked at. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Izaki · August 2016

Benemime wrote: »

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

You're going to weave anyways right? So even if its bugged, why would it worry you?

If I threw away a legendary enchantment/glyph to set this on my current staff of course I was thinking about using it, I was going to test it if it's worth it or not. I would have like to have an option and test new viable options and I just did this post to alert people (and devs) cause I've seen people talking about this new glyph. If it's bugged they should fix it and I'm basically just doing a bug report since they might don't know about this.

No I meant, you were going to weave light and heavy attacks between your force pulse anyway. Why should it bother you? I use it and its got 100% uptime when I use it.

Benemime · August 2016

code65536 wrote: »

@Reorx_Holybeard is correct: Weapon abilities should proc the enchantment. If you don't believe me, go equip dual-wield, steelnado everything, and watch the drain on your wepaon's enchantment charges. No weapon attacks, just abilities.

If a particular skill isn't procing the enchantment, then that's a bug that should be looked at. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Thank you!

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

No I meant, you were going to weave light and heavy attacks between your force pulse anyway. Why should it bother you? I use it and its got 100% uptime when I use it.

Oh. Sorry for being defensive about it. Anyway, I don't usually cast light attacks while dpsing that much like every single time between skills, when I want/need ultimate yes, I cast light attacks more often. I think if it was working with force pulse it would be better for me

optouter · August 2016

I might be wrong but I remember reading that attacks/skills proc all enchantments but the damage one. His includes weapon dame as well. They only work with a light or heavy attack.

darthsithis · August 2016

light attack proc's this glyph from my casual testing. Just weave and it'll work out fine.

ZOS_JohanaB · August 2016

Several comments have been edited or removed from the discussion for flaming. There is no reason to attack or flame one another over misunderstandings and disagreements. Especially since it's against the community rules. Keep it civil please.

bryanhaas · August 2016

ZOS_JohanaB wrote: »

Several comments have been edited or removed from the discussion for flaming. There is no reason to attack or flame one another over misunderstandings and disagreements. Especially since it's against the community rules. Keep it civil please.

Just a thought, if someone from ZoS were to say no you're wrong or yes it is glitched then problem solved no more flaming. But yes keep it civil.

Benemime · August 2016

bryanhaas wrote: »

ZOS_JohanaB wrote: »

Several comments have been edited or removed from the discussion for flaming. There is no reason to attack or flame one another over misunderstandings and disagreements. Especially since it's against the community rules. Keep it civil please.

Just a thought, if someone from ZoS were to say no you're wrong or yes it is glitched then problem solved no more flaming. But yes keep it civil.

Exactly my thoughts, they came to clean the thread but didn't give any answer on the subject