Tonnopesce wrote: »

Tons of heavy armored s&b dk's use macros for " light attack => puncture => bash => reverberating bash => block " tipe of combo and is funny how all this people pass the anti cheat without issues even if is a 1 second combo.

Erock25 wrote: »

I don't care how well you set up a macro, you can't do anything faster than the animation system allows. Even with animation canceling, you can not fit a large amount of abilities into a small time frame. You can use a basic weapon attack, an ability, a roll dodge, a bash and an ultimate all into one "animation window". No macro can overcome that without some sort of cheat program. Macroing is pointless and detrimental (it doesn't work well, especially with any lag) to your game play. If you think someone is pulling off four of a single ability (Surprise Attack) within one second, it has nothing to do with macros. They're hacking.

Really ?
Because the last time i've checked with a macro you can push AC to the limit, at the point that reapply your buffs result in a couple of weapon switch without see any ability cast.

You cannot break game mechanics and reapply buffs faster than you could do it manually. It is so easy to apply a buff without the animation happening that most people don't even pay attention to it but instead of learning how to do it I guess it's easier to accuse people of macroing on the forums. Also there is a timer on every ability, so even though you could technically macro them you can only do an ability, light attack and a bash in a second which is tricky but still very much manageable manually, but not multiple abilities.
I'm very surprised so many people believe that everyone who can weave animations properly are using macros because it's *obviously* impossible to do it by yourself. Not to mention you have to adjust yourself to the ping and to the situation you find yourself in which a macro cannot do.

Macros are allowed.

In cases of bad latency, framerate and fps then it is ill adviced to use macros, as it can cause you a heavy dps loss. This is why many of the top raiders do not use macros, or when they do it's for their spamable skill, so they don't ruin their hands by pushing the 1, 2, 3, 4 & 5 buttons on the keyboard lol
-that only goes for the players without a mice with many buttons, those who do just use that particular button on the mice, and don't setup a macro for it.

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

Macros are allowed.

In cases of bad latency, framerate and fps then it is ill adviced to use macros, as it can cause you a heavy dps loss. This is why many of the top raiders do not use macros, or when they do it's for their spamable skill, so they don't ruin their hands by pushing the 1, 2, 3, 4 & 5 buttons on the keyboard lol
-that only goes for the players without a mice with many buttons, those who do just use that particular button on the mice, and don't setup a macro for it.

Macros are most definitely not allowed.

@ZOS_AlanG wrote:

Thank you for providing the quote, using macros is against the terms of service. We certainly don't mind a thread being created to ask about this, but this is starting to delve into more detail than is acceptable on the forums so we are locking this thread.

The relevant TOS part is:

You agree not to use any hardware or software or any other method of support that is not authorized by ZeniMax or that may in any way influence or advantage Your playing abilities, or influence or advantage Your use of the Services. Third party tools, the use of ‘bots’, “speed hacks”, “deep-link”, “page-scrape”, “robot”, “spider”, algorithm or other programs that copy or monitor any part of the Services (including, but not limited to, the Game(s) and/or forums).

As a "top raider" in this game I can promise you with 100% accuracy that no-one end-game in the top PvE guilds is using macros for any part of their gameplay during Trials or Dungeons.

Why?
If they allow macroing, then you too can do this, thus there be no advantage to whomever.
It would be a choice as to either use it or not.
IMHO they should allow it, not everyone can compete on certain levels (lost both four arms and a toe or something in a trike accident when they were 2, example), while, IMHO, they should be able too.
IMHO, it's not an unfair tool...

Well almost all pro gamer today use macro keyboard and mouses so yes i understand what most say here but it is funny how some company see it as cheating and other dont but i think it hard question really to say who is right and who is wrong.

One thing that funny about macro use is WoW blizzard did not allow from start but when more and more youtuber that was stream WoW on there page was use macro mouse and keyboard the allow it.

VarilRau wrote: »

Cously wrote: »

The same could be argued for uses with multiple monitors or a monster PC or connection that can handle ESO no lag or fps loss. So in this instance macroing shouldn't be blame but the in game system that allows macros to be made.

Well. luckily ESO runs on the same 10fps in trials with a GTX1080 and 144hrz screen.. regardless of the computer.

Makes you think: "Why do I have all this hypertech, why did I play that much, if it is of no use?", right? XD

jkolb2030 wrote: »

If you have a macro that is animation canceling and tying multiple skills together to come out faster than intended, I would say that is the negative macro that should not be allowed.

It has to be hard to set up a macro like that tho because of all of the animation cancelling that you would have to account for. It would be damn impressive if someone did manage to set one up like that with all the perfect timings tho..

Go play in Cyrodiil in the off-hours and be "damn impressed".

Erock25 wrote: »

I don't care how well you set up a macro, you can't do anything faster than the animation system allows. Even with animation canceling, you can not fit a large amount of abilities into a small time frame.

Unfortunately, you can.

To be clear: Using macros is officially labeled cheating by Zenimax. But I know several guildies who play the game with macro-programmed keyboards or mice and Zenimax hasn't reacted to one of them. So I suppose there is no detection system for it.