Should the morph effect for Hardened Armor be changed?
UltimaJoe777
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So when you morph Spiked Armor into Hardened Armor it produces a small damage shield upon activation for 2 seconds. Anyone else think this could be improved upon? Well feel free to discuss it here!
Edited by UltimaJoe777 on July 31, 2016 8:26PM Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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Should the morph effect for Hardened Armor be changed? 34 votes
Yes, increase the strength of the Damage Shield!
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1 vote
Yes, increase the duration of the Damage Shield!
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6 votes
Yes, increase both of the above!
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6 votes
Yes, replace this effect with something more useful!
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14 votes
No, leave this effect as is.
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3 votes
I don't use this morph so I don't care. Volatile Armor for the win!
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1 vote
Who even needs Spiked Armor? I sure don't...
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Liofa✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭It says ''Hardened'' , not shielded . I think it should give more resist than normal buff . I think it would be better if it would give Minor Resist buffs too . Since healers target DDs to give them Minor Berserk , tanks don't get those buffs all the time . It could be useful . Minor Protection could be nice as well .2 -
UltimaJoe777✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭It says ''Hardened'' , not shielded . I think it should give more resist than normal buff . I think it would be better if it would give Minor Resist buffs too . Since healers target DDs to give them Minor Berserk , tanks don't get those buffs all the time . It could be useful . Minor Protection could be nice as well .
If I had to choose an alternate effect to the damage shield myself I'd probably go with an increase in the damage return. Damage return is a great way for tanks to attack while defending! ...Nothing in this game has good enough actual damage return of this sort to be worth a damn as it is.Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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RAGUNAnoOne✭✭✭✭✭
✭the shield is too small and is especially way too short to be a viable morph at least make it 8 seconds to be in line with other shields or better yet change the effect to something better like weighted armor providing minor expedition for the full duration.PS4 NA
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E-Zekiel✭✭✭As Ragun put it, it's too small and way too short. I would like it to be brought up to the same relative level as igneous shield, myself. I used this morph for awhile before I realized just how particularly tiny and short lived the shield is, before finally getting rid of it in favor of the DOT because it was basically insignificant.1 -
GreenSoup2HoT✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭You have streak/curse to counter nb cloak. Putting an AoE on hardend ward would be over kill.
Not to mention you get Inner/Raidant Mage Light too.Edited by GreenSoup2HoT on August 1, 2016 7:38AMPS4 NA DC0 -
Orchish✭✭✭✭✭
✭Honestly it's one of the most useless morphs in the game. Especially in PvP where the shield isn't even big enough to absorb the damage of a light attack lol... and 2 seconds? seriously a shield for 2 seconds? who thinks up these skills i do wonder. Should definitely be changed into something more useful.0 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭@GreenSoup2HoT hardened armor not hardened ward
threw me for a sec too.
A lot of the tiny wards, this one, cleave's ward etc... make me wonder about their use0 -
code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It's pretty good for PvE tanking, though. If the healer is down and I'm in trouble, the shield from this and Igneous can absorb a ton of damage, if timed properly. I wouldn't mind a longer duration, of course, but it's mostly fine as it is.Edited by code65536 on August 1, 2016 5:58AMNightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
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✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »@GreenSoup2HoT hardened armor not hardened ward threw me for a sec too.
A lot of the tiny wards, this one, cleave's ward etc... make me wonder about their use
Yeah Conjured Ward and morphs are perfectly fine as is lolGuildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »@GreenSoup2HoT hardened armor not hardened ward threw me for a sec too.
A lot of the tiny wards, this one, cleave's ward etc... make me wonder about their useUltimaJoe777 wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »@GreenSoup2HoT hardened armor not hardened ward threw me for a sec too.
A lot of the tiny wards, this one, cleave's ward etc... make me wonder about their use
Yeah Conjured Ward and morphs are perfectly fine as is lol
Ahh i see. I swear Ultima wrote Hardened Ward. He also mentioned giving it a AoE activation DoT...which is why i was like whaaaat. I guess that makes more sense if it was Hardened Armour.
I personally think both morphs of Spiked Armour are fine. Volatile is a pain to deal with (its still broken against nightblade cloak on console
). Hardened Armour with Igneous Shield is also a pain to deal with.
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jeedrzej✭✭✭✭✭For full tanks in PVE is still better than Volatile Armor.
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✭✭✭GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »@GreenSoup2HoT hardened armor not hardened ward threw me for a sec too.
A lot of the tiny wards, this one, cleave's ward etc... make me wonder about their useUltimaJoe777 wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »@GreenSoup2HoT hardened armor not hardened ward threw me for a sec too.
A lot of the tiny wards, this one, cleave's ward etc... make me wonder about their use
Yeah Conjured Ward and morphs are perfectly fine as is lol
Ahh i see. I swear Ultima wrote Hardened Ward. He also mentioned giving it a AoE activation DoT...which is why i was like whaaaat. I guess that makes more sense if it was Hardened Armour.
I personally think both morphs of Spiked Armour are fine. Volatile is a pain to deal with (its still broken against nightblade cloak on console ). Hardened Armour with Igneous Shield is also a pain to deal with.
I never mentioned an AoE DoT for Hardened Armor though lol that's just what Volatile Armor does.Edited by UltimaJoe777 on August 1, 2016 5:11PMGuildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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Barlthump✭✭✭I would like for it to (a few things just spit balling here, choose one or choose more then one)
1) maybe shatter when the shield breaks giving some resistances to those around you?
2) while active you take a flat 1/2/3 % less damage (since resistances are in a *** place and of course you can't mitigate all 3% in pvp, maybe 1.5 when your in cyro?)
3) while active increase your regen for your resources?
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UltimaJoe777✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I would like for it to (a few things just spit balling here, choose one or choose more then one)
1) maybe shatter when the shield breaks giving some resistances to those around you?
2) while active you take a flat 1/2/3 % less damage (since resistances are in a *** place and of course you can't mitigate all 3% in pvp, maybe 1.5 when your in cyro?)
3) while active increase your regen for your resources?
#3 would have to be Minor Recovery buffs so as not to clash with Dragon Blood and morphs.Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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