Should the morph effect for Hardened Armor be changed?

UltimaJoe777

So when you morph Spiked Armor into Hardened Armor it produces a small damage shield upon activation for 2 seconds. Anyone else think this could be improved upon? Well feel free to discuss it here!

Liofa

It says ''Hardened'' , not shielded . I think it should give more resist than normal buff . I think it would be better if it would give Minor Resist buffs too . Since healers target DDs to give them Minor Berserk , tanks don't get those buffs all the time . It could be useful . Minor Protection could be nice as well .

UltimaJoe777

Liofa wrote: »

It says ''Hardened'' , not shielded . I think it should give more resist than normal buff . I think it would be better if it would give Minor Resist buffs too . Since healers target DDs to give them Minor Berserk , tanks don't get those buffs all the time . It could be useful . Minor Protection could be nice as well .

If I had to choose an alternate effect to the damage shield myself I'd probably go with an increase in the damage return. Damage return is a great way for tanks to attack while defending! ...Nothing in this game has good enough actual damage return of this sort to be worth a damn as it is.

RAGUNAnoOne

the shield is too small and is especially way too short to be a viable morph at least make it 8 seconds to be in line with other shields or better yet change the effect to something better like weighted armor providing minor expedition for the full duration.

E-Zekiel

As Ragun put it, it's too small and way too short. I would like it to be brought up to the same relative level as igneous shield, myself. I used this morph for awhile before I realized just how particularly tiny and short lived the shield is, before finally getting rid of it in favor of the DOT because it was basically insignificant.

GreenSoup2HoT

You have streak/curse to counter nb cloak. Putting an AoE on hardend ward would be over kill.

Not to mention you get Inner/Raidant Mage Light too.

Orchish

Honestly it's one of the most useless morphs in the game. Especially in PvP where the shield isn't even big enough to absorb the damage of a light attack lol... and 2 seconds? seriously a shield for 2 seconds? who thinks up these skills i do wonder. Should definitely be changed into something more useful.

Waffennacht

@GreenSoup2HoT hardened armor not hardened ward threw me for a sec too.

A lot of the tiny wards, this one, cleave's ward etc... make me wonder about their use

code65536

It's pretty good for PvE tanking, though. If the healer is down and I'm in trouble, the shield from this and Igneous can absorb a ton of damage, if timed properly. I wouldn't mind a longer duration, of course, but it's mostly fine as it is.

UltimaJoe777

Waffennacht wrote: »

@GreenSoup2HoT hardened armor not hardened ward threw me for a sec too.

A lot of the tiny wards, this one, cleave's ward etc... make me wonder about their use

Yeah Conjured Ward and morphs are perfectly fine as is lol

GreenSoup2HoT

Waffennacht wrote: »

@GreenSoup2HoT hardened armor not hardened ward threw me for a sec too.

A lot of the tiny wards, this one, cleave's ward etc... make me wonder about their use

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

@GreenSoup2HoT hardened armor not hardened ward threw me for a sec too.

A lot of the tiny wards, this one, cleave's ward etc... make me wonder about their use

Yeah Conjured Ward and morphs are perfectly fine as is lol

Ahh i see. I swear Ultima wrote Hardened Ward. He also mentioned giving it a AoE activation DoT...which is why i was like whaaaat. I guess that makes more sense if it was Hardened Armour.

I personally think both morphs of Spiked Armour are fine. Volatile is a pain to deal with (its still broken against nightblade cloak on console ). Hardened Armour with Igneous Shield is also a pain to deal with.

jeedrzej

For full tanks in PVE is still better than Volatile Armor.
Overall this skill gives you a lot. I don't think it need buff.

UltimaJoe777

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

@GreenSoup2HoT hardened armor not hardened ward threw me for a sec too.

A lot of the tiny wards, this one, cleave's ward etc... make me wonder about their use

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

@GreenSoup2HoT hardened armor not hardened ward threw me for a sec too.

A lot of the tiny wards, this one, cleave's ward etc... make me wonder about their use

Yeah Conjured Ward and morphs are perfectly fine as is lol

Ahh i see. I swear Ultima wrote Hardened Ward. He also mentioned giving it a AoE activation DoT...which is why i was like whaaaat. I guess that makes more sense if it was Hardened Armour.

I personally think both morphs of Spiked Armour are fine. Volatile is a pain to deal with (its still broken against nightblade cloak on console ). Hardened Armour with Igneous Shield is also a pain to deal with.

I never mentioned an AoE DoT for Hardened Armor though lol that's just what Volatile Armor does.

E-Zekiel

jeedrzej wrote: »

For full tanks in PVE is still better than Volatile Armor.
Overall this skill gives you a lot. I don't think it need buff.

Not really. The tiny tiny shield doesn't make up for the damage (and aggro) lost by choosing hardened over volatile.

Barlthump

I would like for it to (a few things just spit balling here, choose one or choose more then one)

1) maybe shatter when the shield breaks giving some resistances to those around you?
2) while active you take a flat 1/2/3 % less damage (since resistances are in a *** place and of course you can't mitigate all 3% in pvp, maybe 1.5 when your in cyro?)
3) while active increase your regen for your resources?

UltimaJoe777

Barlthump wrote: »

I would like for it to (a few things just spit balling here, choose one or choose more then one)

1) maybe shatter when the shield breaks giving some resistances to those around you?
2) while active you take a flat 1/2/3 % less damage (since resistances are in a *** place and of course you can't mitigate all 3% in pvp, maybe 1.5 when your in cyro?)
3) while active increase your regen for your resources?

#3 would have to be Minor Recovery buffs so as not to clash with Dragon Blood and morphs.