I agree that this Style Parlor they've released is a farce. I mean, this thread has been active for over a YEAR and we were all very clear (well most of us) that we wanted the barbershop to be an immersive in-game event. Something that helped make Tamriel feel more robust and lively. Instead we get a menu... not in game... not immersive... and not part of the game. A simplistic "return to character creation" token with a different backdrop.

This was the "last straw" for me personally @MornaBaine , I am now treating ESO as a literal "Elder Scrolls Theme Park" . I go to ESO to see the pretty sights and listen to the little plays they put on for us. I visit the concession stands and admire the sights. I no longer hope for anything more. I still get the notifications for this forum because I have enjoyed coming on here to share my thoughts and ideas with the community and I hoped that ZOS would be the kind of company that welcomed their players and were open with the community. Once that hoped proved to be false, the hope that ESO would find it's feet and become the Elder Scrolls Online experience that defines what a massively multiplayer role playing game could be sustained me for the longest time. Now, even that has cracked and dried in the glaring truth that ESO is not a leader in this genre, but a follower...and ZOS doesn't seem interested in making ESO more than it is now.

They are not interested in ESO being an immersive, engaging world that will grow and expand as time marches onward. ESO is a façade, in every meaning of the term. It's a front. A face. An outward facing falsehood. Look behind the world and you'll see the pressboard and protruding nails. This isn't a world that ZOS has built for us to become denizens to Tamriel. It's a world designed to do one thing and one thing only... sell the visitors trinkets and concessions.

ZOS obviously doesn't intend for us to hunker down, claim our homeland, experience our own lore and etch our own story into the soil and stone of Nirn with our sweat, blood, and tears. They want us to come back every season to see the new attraction. To ride the new ride. To see the new play.

Accepting that has been hard for me. I wanted an online experience that is as rich as the Elder Scrolls single player counterparts. I wanted to feel compelled to visit Tamriel day in and day out. I wanted the world to feel alive and ripe with adventure. Instead, after you finish the quests, ESO feels more like the dried out husk of an Elder Scrolls carcass, rotting in the bleached light of a false Magnus, being picked clean by imitations of harpies and hagravens.

ESO might as well drop it's buy-to-play pay-gate and go full free-to-play because players who BUY a game deserve better game design than this... wait, scratch that. Players who buy a game deserve SOME game design... because the style parlor isn't part of the game at all. It adds absolutely zero gameplay value to the ESO and if THIS is what they were planning to give us all along, it should have been out for console launch.

What ESO has become is proving to be little more than a bastardization of the TES franchise. Apparently ZOS just hoped that players such as myself would continue to cover our eyes suckle at the dry, misshapen teat of The Elder Scrolls no matter how withered and devoid of sustenance that teat becomes. This has become especially clear with the "Style Parlor" which is a mockery of the spirit of the games which came before. It really brought to light ZOS' intentions with ESO and showcases the generic, mundane, uninspired, insipidly vapid design that we will see in the future releases for ESO.

Zenimax and Bethesda should be ashamed of what ZOS is doing with ESO. The Elder Scrolls, and it's fans, deserve better than the trite drivel of a game that ESO is becoming.

I'm becoming more and more convinced that ZOS has no creative minds left working. Nothing but programing jobs out sourced to India.

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

no, definitely glad it's not a gold sink. I'd nnoyed if everyone kept changing their hair 10x a day. But thats just me.

If somebody else annoys you by doing something so simple to THEIR character...maybe you should focus more on yours.

Gidorick wrote: »

I agree that this Style Parlor they've released is a farce. I mean, this thread has been active for over a YEAR and we were all very clear (well most of us) that we wanted the barbershop to be an immersive in-game event. Something that helped make Tamriel feel more robust and lively. Instead we get a menu... not in game... not immersive... and not part of the game. A simplistic "return to character creation" token with a different backdrop.

This was the "last straw" for me personally @MornaBaine , I am now treating ESO as a literal "Elder Scrolls Theme Park" . I go to ESO to see the pretty sights and listen to the little plays they put on for us. I visit the concession stands and admire the sights. I no longer hope for anything more. I still get the notifications for this forum because I have enjoyed coming on here to share my thoughts and ideas with the community and I hoped that ZOS would be the kind of company that welcomed their players and were open with the community. Once that hoped proved to be false, the hope that ESO would find it's feet and become the Elder Scrolls Online experience that defines what a massively multiplayer role playing game could be sustained me for the longest time. Now, even that has cracked and dried in the glaring truth that ESO is not a leader in this genre, but a follower...and ZOS doesn't seem interested in making ESO more than it is now.

They are not interested in ESO being an immersive, engaging world that will grow and expand as time marches onward. ESO is a façade, in every meaning of the term. It's a front. A face. An outward facing falsehood. Look behind the world and you'll see the pressboard and protruding nails. This isn't a world that ZOS has built for us to become denizens to Tamriel. It's a world designed to do one thing and one thing only... sell the visitors trinkets and concessions.

ZOS obviously doesn't intend for us to hunker down, claim our homeland, experience our own lore and etch our own story into the soil and stone of Nirn with our sweat, blood, and tears. They want us to come back every season to see the new attraction. To ride the new ride. To see the new play.

Accepting that has been hard for me. I wanted an online experience that is as rich as the Elder Scrolls single player counterparts. I wanted to feel compelled to visit Tamriel day in and day out. I wanted the world to feel alive and ripe with adventure. Instead, after you finish the quests, ESO feels more like the dried out husk of an Elder Scrolls carcass, rotting in the bleached light of a false Magnus, being picked clean by imitations of harpies and hagravens.

ESO might as well drop it's buy-to-play pay-gate and go full free-to-play because players who BUY a game deserve better game design than this... wait, scratch that. Players who buy a game deserve SOME game design... because the style parlor isn't part of the game at all. It adds absolutely zero gameplay value to the ESO and if THIS is what they were planning to give us all along, it should have been out for console launch.

What ESO has become is proving to be little more than a bastardization of the TES franchise. Apparently ZOS just hoped that players such as myself would continue to cover our eyes suckle at the dry, misshapen teat of The Elder Scrolls no matter how withered and devoid of sustenance that teat becomes. This has become especially clear with the "Style Parlor" which is a mockery of the spirit of the games which came before. It really brought to light ZOS' intentions with ESO and showcases the generic, mundane, uninspired, insipidly vapid design that we will see in the future releases for ESO.

Zenimax and Bethesda should be ashamed of what ZOS is doing with ESO. The Elder Scrolls, and it's fans, deserve better than the trite drivel of a game that ESO is becoming.

Well written and spot on.

They cant ignore input if they dont see the input. Does any1 honestly think ZoS dwcision makers see any of the stuff on the forum or waste their companies money having forum staff tell them?

ESO has become AAA f2p app style game and ppl i know who left to play Neverwinter did so because of how broken ESO has become as opposed to price gauging cosmetics.

Do ZoS care...lol...

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

no, definitely glad it's not a gold sink. I'd nnoyed if everyone kept changing their hair 10x a day. But thats just me.

But this game NEEDS more gold sinks as gold inflation is through the roof.

MornaBaine wrote: »

petraeus1 wrote: »

Ravinsild wrote: »

I like how they ignored this entire thread of feedback and were like "just pay us real money and go to the character creation screen to change things..."

Yeah... If they wanted to ask money, they could've at least put some effort in to making it cool and, you know, part of Tamriel. Bloody Elder Scrolls isn't it?

Especially after how the departed Paul Sage went on about how they didn't have one yet because they wanted to make it "immersive" and part of the game in a meaningful, roleplay kind of way. So, like an actual barbershop you would have your character go to and an NPC barber (or mage for more "extreme makeovers!"). Instead we waited 3 years for, "Give us real cash and push this button." And then the offerings are really lackluster and hardly anything at all like what we've been asking for.

Quoted for truth. I see by "immersion" ZOS means immersing themselves in piles of our cash like ZeniMcDuck.

Gidorick wrote: »

I agree that this Style Parlor they've released is a farce.

Zenimax and Bethesda should be ashamed of what ZOS is doing with ESO. The Elder Scrolls, and it's fans, deserve better than the trite drivel of a game that ESO is becoming.

Wait until you get a load of what they have planned for Housing. All those hopes and dreams here in the forum... heh.

I wonder why am I still sticking around? Everything we all get excited and hopeful for turns out the other way around, It's been a continuous disappointment for the past several months (some would say even more) yet we still accept everything.

Hell, I can take anything but not getting this thread "overlooked". This big, inovative thread full of ideas that ZOS just completely ignored, it makes me upset, but I mean really upset. We're all here to make the game even greater, helping and cooperating on it but we get completely shoved away in the end.

I guess they only work with the community when it suits them.

I find the barber shop additions to be very well done, at least for argonians as that's the only one i tried. I will likely buy it.





The only problem i had is you cant edit skin color or hair color so it just uses the ones you chose at creation. So your left with needing to change appearance to get things to look how you want or make a character to preview how certain colors affect these styles.I was hoping for a face changer/surgeon like skyrim/falllout 4 where for a few thousand gold you could tweak your character.

I fear this game may eventually be charging to much for features we would all like to enjoy. I was hoping these would be base features as I thought such systems would be after it went buy2play. I thought they were only charging for content expanding dlc and everything else would be base game. Race change, name change, and class change i could see charging for. Same with new hairstyles, hats, and costumes. however, changing your characters appearance within your race through some ingame system is what should have happened with gold exchanged to an npc.

Costume dyeing with your own unlocked colors should also be base game. These dye stamps are horrible and serve no purpose other then to hit the wallets of non subscribers, who may be spending money just like subscribers.

I have very mixed feelings with the new features. However, since it releases shortly, we are likely going to be stuck with what we have now

Lylith wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

I agree that this Style Parlor they've released is a farce.

Zenimax and Bethesda should be ashamed of what ZOS is doing with ESO. The Elder Scrolls, and it's fans, deserve better than the trite drivel of a game that ESO is becoming.

Wait until you get a load of what they have planned for Housing. All those hopes and dreams here in the forum... heh.

can't hardly wait.

Ideally houses are bought with gold, decorations are crafted and unique items are attained through quest/ dungeons.

More likely...

Rawl'kha manor 4000 crowns

Fancy rug 1000 crowns

And so on

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

This is one thing I simply don't care about. I'll be never spend real money to change my race, hair style, etc...at least not for those prices. I sub and when I decide to quit I'll no longer sub.

ZOS does somethings wrong and somethings right. No one is perfect, but I think we may be being a bit too harsh here. I have criticized ZOS in the past, but outside of cost I'm not sure it's warranted. The race change token is simply far too expensive it should be 1k crowns at most not 3. Bring the prices down a bit and I think it will be sucessful for them

yeah everyone already said that. these prices are just a personal insult to the players and that's what's really frustrating here, i mean $25 for a name change $30 for race change. do they think we're idiots?, that's just a complete ripoff. and the fact that they think their players/customers are that naive is really annoying.

miked83b14_ESO wrote: »

Lol @Gidorick

You wanted the devs to make actual barbershops in cities to add to the immersion?
Ahhahaha... Sure, other MMO's and games have this feature but let's be realistic. It took these guys 2 years to make a token to send us back to the character creation screen.

And the fanboys were all like: give them time, theyre making it really special!