[Datamining] 32 New Vvardenfell POIs Found In 2.5.0

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO · July 2016

Abeille wrote: »

I'm fangirling all over the place.

My fangirl told your fangirl, down in Sadrith Mora!

My fangirl told your fangirl, there's a party in Balmora!

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

Elder_III · July 2016

Hopefully it's Upper and lower zones - with the each zone being similar to Wrothgar in size. This would obviously need to be multiple DLCs.

MasterSpatula · July 2016

I'm a little perplexed that the old Dunmer Strongholds aren't on the list, but on the other hand so many Dwemer ruins and Tel Fyr to boot!

ShadowHvo · July 2016

Pendrillion wrote: »

Just a heads up about Vivec city and the Ghostgate and such... As far as Lawrence Schick told us, they don't exist yet. Maybe we can help build them ^^

... I will personally cry myself to sleep if they don't give us Vivec city, there is far too much awesome stuff they can do with such a big, and beautiful capital, for it to go unused in an mmo envoriment.

Xerosus · July 2016

How about fix the game performance as much as possible first? I have no intention of loading into Ald'Ruhn and crashing after taking 5 steps.

"Omg, the nostalgia is hitting me... oh.. ohhhhhh... hello Xbox Dashboard, we meet again"

Bislobo · July 2016

lordrichter wrote: »

Sentinel wrote: »

Vvardenfell, if kept to lore appropriate scaling, the full isle would be about the same size as the in game (partial) Cyrodiil. Fully done, I would expect far more than six delves, perhaps in the range of Cyrodiil itself in terms of quantity. However, something makes me think that the zone will be split up into mini-zones, or perhaps even released as Craglorn was: one piece at a time. Releasing the full map in all its landmass, including the scaling that ESO gives to other TES zones (I think I remember seeing ZOS say somewhere that the size of individual areas are 1.5x that of previous TES games to give more space in the MMO) the land would be quite barren and without delves for massive stretches at a time. Perhaps the focus would be overworld content instead, but I'm eager to see how this zone will turn out in the end.

I would be happy if they made this a long term project and kept plugging away at it for a few months, just to get it complete and well constructed. This zone needs to be detailed, on the order of the original game, or people will be disappointed.

I think we need to get it all in one zone, and it should be close to a "remake" of the original game, at least in terms of detail and stuff to do. An expansion more than a quarterly DLC.

Agree with this one... This should be an expansion.

Elsonso · July 2016

MasterSpatula wrote: »

I'm a little perplexed that the old Dunmer Strongholds aren't on the list, but on the other hand so many Dwemer ruins and Tel Fyr to boot!

I suspect they are not done yet. It is very possible that this is the "big project" that they have been working on for the last year. It may have more time to bake before it is done. Personally, I am guessing 2Q or 3Q 2017.

Enodoc · July 2016

Xvorg wrote: »

Interesting. Rethan Manor, Indarys Manor and Tel Uvirith?

I would hope not. They aren't built until 3E 427.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

I wonder if it will be released as one large adventure zone or if they'll just spoon-feed it to us in small patches.

It seems to be set up for a single zone (6 delves, 6 world bosses, 2 public dungeons), so I'm thinking similar to Wrothgar.

AntMan100673 wrote: »

6 delves, 6 world bosses, 2 public dungeons etc its sounding wrothgar sized to me

Agreed!

phreatophile wrote: »

It's got to be be bigger than Wrothgar, in Morrowind it was huge. If they do everything else right but make it as small as Wrothgar people will lose it.

It would be a desecration like shooting a stained glass window.

Yeah, people wouldn't be happy with a Wrothgar-sized Vvardenfell. But so far, everything seems to be pointing that way.

Elder_III wrote: »

Hopefully it's Upper and lower zones - with the each zone being similar to Wrothgar in size. This would obviously need to be multiple DLCs.

Yeah, that would be great. But if that's the plan, I would have thought we'd be seeing more delves, or six delves concentrated on one half of the island. Craglorn isn't any bigger than Wrothgar, but they managed to fit 18 delves into it.

Elsonso · July 2016

Enodoc wrote: »

phreatophile wrote: »

It's got to be be bigger than Wrothgar, in Morrowind it was huge. If they do everything else right but make it as small as Wrothgar people will lose it.

It would be a desecration like shooting a stained glass window.

Yeah, people wouldn't be happy with a Wrothgar-sized Vvardenfell. But so far, everything seems to be pointing that way.

ZOS has to tread very carefully here. They are walking on hallowed ground. They can do things the way they usually do them, with big intentions but lacking in follow through, but that will be a mistake with this zone. They have an entire GAME to live up to with this. People will be disappointed and pan the zone if they use the same playbook they used for Wrothgar. They need to take the time to make Vvardenfell epic or whatever they do will be cast as a failure more than a success.

Minnesinger · July 2016

Hell yeah. Hope they add so much content we can play there for months.

altemriel · July 2016

am I guessing right, that the area seems as big as Wrothgar? please tell me yes!

Reevster · July 2016

Means nothing to me other then more DLC, as I have never played any other ES games other then ESO.

Looks cool though.

Elsonso · July 2016

Reevster wrote: »

Means nothing to me other then more DLC, as I have never played any other ES games other then ESO.

Looks cool though.

A lot of people will feel that way.

There is no reason to go back to Vvardenfell right now other than because of TES 3 Morrowind. There are plenty of places to go and things to see that have never been in any Elder Scrolls game. They could easily avoid the remainder of Skyrim and Vvardenfell for a good long time.

TES 3 Morrowind is frequently viewed favorably out of all of the TES games by long time Elder Scrolls fans. It may not have been as popular as Skyrim, or have the fancy graphics and refined appearance that Skyrim has, and the combat is crude compared to modern games, and it has limited voice overs, and all the NPCs look the same, but there is a cult following for the game that puts it on a pedestal above all of the other games, even Daggerfall. Every TES game since Morrowind has had an effort to put it into the current TES game, and I guess that ESO is no exception.

TES 3 Morrowind was the first TES game I ever played. It is a game that I never want to play again, yet it is a game that all Elder Scrolls games should be compared against.

Making a Vvardenfell zone for ESO is a great idea, and I look forward to hearing more about it, but there is a risk that should not be understated.

Enodoc · July 2016

altemriel wrote: »

am I guessing right, that the area seems as big as Wrothgar? please tell me yes!

@altemriel Based on the number of POIs, delves, bosses and public dungeons found so far, yes. A similar size to Wrothgar is almost certain. Geographically, however, it should be about twice the size. (see map)

Milvan · July 2016

Despite the datamine, concerning official information, what exactly do we know about Vvardenfell?

Enodoc · July 2016

Milvan wrote: »

Despite the datamine, concerning official information, what exactly do we know about Vvardenfell?

@Milvan There is no official information about Vvardenfell at all. In fact, the last official thing they said regarding Vvardenfell was that there were "no plans", which was probably over a year ago.

MasterSpatula · July 2016

Enodoc wrote: »

Xvorg wrote: »

Interesting. Rethan Manor, Indarys Manor and Tel Uvirith?

I would hope not. They aren't built until 3E 427.

Ah, but Uvirith's Grave was a place before it was Tel Uvirith. Maybe we'll even get to meet this Uvirith person.

Elsonso · July 2016

Enodoc wrote: »

Milvan wrote: »

Despite the datamine, concerning official information, what exactly do we know about Vvardenfell?

@Milvan There is no official information about Vvardenfell at all. In fact, the last official thing they said regarding Vvardenfell was that there were "no plans", which was probably over a year ago.

I think they also said "they would like to do that", or something along those lines. Standard reply, though.

Enodoc · July 2016

lordrichter wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Milvan wrote: »

Despite the datamine, concerning official information, what exactly do we know about Vvardenfell?

@Milvan There is no official information about Vvardenfell at all. In fact, the last official thing they said regarding Vvardenfell was that there were "no plans", which was probably over a year ago.

I think they also said "they would like to do that", or something along those lines. Standard reply, though.

Yeah, one of the standard responses along the lines of "No plans right now, but we would like to do that", which they have said about many things! I tried to find a reference or a date for when they said it, but no luck. It certainly wasn't recently, though.

Elsonso · July 2016

Enodoc wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Milvan wrote: »

Despite the datamine, concerning official information, what exactly do we know about Vvardenfell?

@Milvan There is no official information about Vvardenfell at all. In fact, the last official thing they said regarding Vvardenfell was that there were "no plans", which was probably over a year ago.

I think they also said "they would like to do that", or something along those lines. Standard reply, though.

Yeah, one of the standard responses along the lines of "No plans right now, but we would like to do that", which they have said about many things! I tried to find a reference or a date for when they said it, but no luck. It certainly wasn't recently, though.

Semi-official (in that it was posted by a player) from the ESO Live - Episode 10 January 30th 2015

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/242998/eso-live-ask-us-anything-the-answers

Q: Will we ever see places in the game that are familiar to all fans, like Balmora, Seyda Neen and others? If we compare the map of the world in ESO and the world map of Tamriel in general, we see a lot of missed locations.

A: We certainly hope so!

Milvan · July 2016

lordrichter wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Milvan wrote: »

Despite the datamine, concerning official information, what exactly do we know about Vvardenfell?

@Milvan There is no official information about Vvardenfell at all. In fact, the last official thing they said regarding Vvardenfell was that there were "no plans", which was probably over a year ago.

I think they also said "they would like to do that", or something along those lines. Standard reply, though.

Yeah, one of the standard responses along the lines of "No plans right now, but we would like to do that", which they have said about many things! I tried to find a reference or a date for when they said it, but no luck. It certainly wasn't recently, though.

Semi-official (in that it was posted by a player) from the ESO Live - Episode 10 January 30th 2015

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/242998/eso-live-ask-us-anything-the-answers

Q: Will we ever see places in the game that are familiar to all fans, like Balmora, Seyda Neen and others? If we compare the map of the world in ESO and the world map of Tamriel in general, we see a lot of missed locations.

A: We certainly hope so!

I wouldn't call that semi-official. It just a vague statement.

Elsonso · July 2016

Milvan wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Milvan wrote: »

Despite the datamine, concerning official information, what exactly do we know about Vvardenfell?

@Milvan There is no official information about Vvardenfell at all. In fact, the last official thing they said regarding Vvardenfell was that there were "no plans", which was probably over a year ago.

I think they also said "they would like to do that", or something along those lines. Standard reply, though.

Yeah, one of the standard responses along the lines of "No plans right now, but we would like to do that", which they have said about many things! I tried to find a reference or a date for when they said it, but no luck. It certainly wasn't recently, though.

Semi-official (in that it was posted by a player) from the ESO Live - Episode 10 January 30th 2015

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/242998/eso-live-ask-us-anything-the-answers

Q: Will we ever see places in the game that are familiar to all fans, like Balmora, Seyda Neen and others? If we compare the map of the world in ESO and the world map of Tamriel in general, we see a lot of missed locations.

A: We certainly hope so!

I wouldn't call that semi-official. It just a vague statement.

It is "semi-official" because the source is a player who says that the developer said this. I was not referring to the answer as being an official confirmation of anything.

nimander99 · July 2016

I have a fear...

That they will break Vvardenfell up into 4 DLC's...

JD2013 · July 2016

Whole of Vvardenfell 5000 crowns.

Calling it now.

Jimmy · July 2016

@ZOS Please take your time with this zone! This is a very delicate zone and you can't afford to rush this. PLEASE don't let us down, take your time, bring the beauty of Vvardenfell to ESO with RESPECT and proper detail like it deserves. Vvardenfell is the reason why I bought ESO, play this game, posting on this forum right now. If it wasn't for Morrowind I wouldn't be here. So please.... please do it right.

Thank you.

Elsonso · July 2016

JD2013 wrote: »

Whole of Vvardenfell 5000 crowns.

Calling it now.

I'll take one. (If... they take their time and do it right... otherwise...)

WhiteCoatSyndrome · July 2016

Pendrillion wrote: »

Just a heads up about Vivec city and the Ghostgate and such... As far as Lawrence Schick told us, they don't exist yet. Maybe we can help build them ^^

Ghostgate makes sense, but do you have a link for Vivec-the-city?

Elsonso · July 2016

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

Pendrillion wrote: »

Just a heads up about Vivec city and the Ghostgate and such... As far as Lawrence Schick told us, they don't exist yet. Maybe we can help build them ^^

Ghostgate makes sense, but do you have a link for Vivec-the-city?

Actually, I think that Vivec City exists in the period of ESO. The Ghostgate, now that would not exist.

Brittany_Joy · July 2016

lordrichter wrote: »

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

Pendrillion wrote: »

Just a heads up about Vivec city and the Ghostgate and such... As far as Lawrence Schick told us, they don't exist yet. Maybe we can help build them ^^

Ghostgate makes sense, but do you have a link for Vivec-the-city?

Actually, I think that Vivec City exists in the period of ESO. The Ghostgate, now that would not exist.

What does that mean though. Would plagued zombies be running free cause there is no ghostgate?

WhiteCoatSyndrome · July 2016

@Brittany_Joy Dagoth Ur isn't going to be an issue for a few more centuries, so no swarms of zombies in the first place. I will note there was a quest in Stonefalls that tells us the Tribunal haven't made their pilgrimage recently anyway.