Yes, I am going to keep Hurling Abuse at the Breton Costume.
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ThanatosLex✭✭Very ugly on the back, not associated textures.Edited by ThanatosLex on July 25, 2016 3:43PM1 -
UltimaJoe777✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Honestly, the fact that when mods lock other threads regarding this that they link those threads to this one is acknowledgement in my book.Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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Conquistador✭✭✭✭✭Why does this thread keep getting thrown off the front page? Why haven't the developers addressed this?3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Honestly, the fact that when mods lock other threads regarding this that they link those threads to this one is acknowledgement in my book.
@UltimaJoe777
Can I be in your book, Joe?
Also, I think the quality of the Breton costume is poor. BUT! It could've been far worse. Now, don't get me wrong. For $20USD, it should've been far better. But, if you all noticed the other 2 "legendary hero" costumes were poor — what made you believe this would be any different?1 -
FerrumnCutem✭✭✭✭Zos you screw loads of stuff up, but we always forgive you. Like with hackers and exploiters getting away with "a stern warning" and a mount that costs more then a DLC, but holy crap, Did you *** this up bigtime!
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✭Conquistador wrote: »Why does this thread keep getting thrown off the front page? Why haven't the developers addressed this?
You have raised a good question and one that I have also raised. ZOS has had ample time to respond to this issue but has elected to remain silent. To me their silence just confirms my statements that they could care less about the concerns players have expressed about the Breton Hero Costume.2 -
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✭An official response would show we aren't just $$$ in the eyes of ZOS. So for now, it looks like they are happy with the product that was released.
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom any official response?PC-NA5 -
CherryCake✭✭✭✭✭
✭aheck1111_ESO wrote: »An official response would show we aren't just $$$ in the eyes of ZOS. So for now, it looks like they are happy with the product that was released.
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom any official response?
How can they be happy with it? I dont think many people actually bought it, so wouldnt it be better for both them and the community if they would add a costume that is decent?
Or...well its ZOS community, many of them probably did xDDD I like sweetrolls and I cannot lie0 -
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✭✭✭I genuinely think that ZOS could go back and Fix the Costume to make the players wearing it feel as awesome as the Trailer Character.
Yes, the Cloak could have basic Physics or at least have a different position when moving, crouching and standing.
Yes, the textures can be improved.
People saying how there can't be any Physics in clothing annoy me. Look at Guild Wars 2 if you haven't, almost every Long Coat, Cloak, Dress and draping cloth has Physics and moves with your Character, as well as having Superior Texture Quality to ESO and having massive scale PvP.
So please tell me again why 'ESO can't have Physics or cloaks.
I feel ZOS could do a real service to the players who bought any of the Hero Costumes by improving them and adding those little extra bits that make them look and feel as bad ass as in the Trailers.
I would regard them in a much higher light if they did do this as a service to those players. However I doubt that they actually ever will.
They could add the Flappy Red Cloth to the Nord Costume.
They could add the wavy cloth strands to the Elf Costume.
And they could make it so the Breton Costume isn't an abysmal piece of badly done trash. (Can;t do arrows because the whole thing is awful)
However, they may just be happy to leave it how it is having made their $$$ and now never having to worry about them again. If they did take some time to go over and fix up to costumes to live up to how they should be (Not as much the other two as they are still wearable, but that Breton sh** is just painful) I really would see them far higher than I do now as it shows that they do care about their consumers and want to improve and fix their errors. I doubt it though
Edited by Mashille on July 25, 2016 10:37PMHouse Baratheon: 'Ours Is The Fury'8 -
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People saying how there can't be any Physics in clothing annoy me. Look at Guild Wars 2 if you haven't almost every Long Coat, Cloak, Dress and draping cloth has Physics and moves with your Character, as well as having Superior Texture Quality to ESO and having massive scale PvP.
Yeah but I mean we cant actually expect physics...Guild wars was released in 2012 and Elder scrolls was released in 2014...
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Maybe they will post here by the time I get done reading this book...Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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Sylveria_Relden✭✭✭✭I'm betting they'll just leave it as is. To assign resources to improve the costume would mean they'd lose money now, versus cost projection of what they'd make in the future, and they've likely made more from this little cash-grab than they would spend fixing it.
That said, for any future purchases my advice to everyone is "Caveat Emptor!"TL;DR - If you got this far without reading the entire post you're either too lazy or suck at reading comprehension and probably don't belong in a public forum anyway. Just move along, you wouldn't understand.1 -
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✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Honestly, the fact that when mods lock other threads regarding this that they link those threads to this one is acknowledgement in my book.
No its not. Its damage control. You herd all complainers into one thread and its just a thread instead of a massive oucry overwhelming the forums. Then the single thread eventually dies down and falls off the front page and the issue is gone.
The lack of female armor meshes, bloated motifs, broken light attack weaving - all got the same treatment.Edited by khele23eb17_ESO on July 25, 2016 11:07PMP2P offered you 'hell yeah!' moments. F2P offers you 'thank god its over' moments.6 -
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Nah. I am not having this issue die down. I am gonna keep smashing my head against ZOS' front door till something happens. (Probably brain dis-function from hitting my head so much)House Baratheon: 'Ours Is The Fury'2 -
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✭✭✭khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Honestly, the fact that when mods lock other threads regarding this that they link those threads to this one is acknowledgement in my book.
No its not. Its damage control. You herd all complainers into one thread and its just a thread instead of a massive oucry overwhelming the forums. Then it eventually dies down and falls off the front page and the issue is gone.
And how would they know to herd them if they did not have a thread they know about to herd them into? Trust me, it's acknowledged.Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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Nah. I am not having this issue die down. I am gonna keep smashing my head against ZOS' front door till something happens. (Probably brain dis-function from hitting my head so much)
And people have said the same thing about other issues but the threads are buried on a 1000th page of the forums, long forgotten.P2P offered you 'hell yeah!' moments. F2P offers you 'thank god its over' moments.1 -
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✭It wont change anything if it is just as acknowledged as the mounts disappearing and riding the ground, the bloated armor, or other bugs...I like sweetrolls and I cannot lie1 -
RebornV3x✭✭✭✭✭
✭the breton hero costume wasn't that bad, now the elven hero one was the worst almost looked nothing like the elven hero costume how do you screw up the costume of you lead/ most prominent hero that is featured on the box art front and center (I have the disk version my Xbox Box)Edited by RebornV3x on July 25, 2016 11:13PMXbox One - NA GT: RebornV3x
I also play on PC from time to time but I just wanna be left alone on there so sorry.0 -
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✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Honestly, the fact that when mods lock other threads regarding this that they link those threads to this one is acknowledgement in my book.
No its not. Its damage control. You herd all complainers into one thread and its just a thread instead of a massive oucry overwhelming the forums. Then it eventually dies down and falls off the front page and the issue is gone.
And how would they know to herd them if they did not have a thread they know about to herd them into? Trust me, it's acknowledged.
Moderators arent devs. Mods saw the issue and contained it to be, most likely, ignored by the devs. Yeah, sure, maybe if barely anyone bought the costume theyll do something about the next ones that get made. That does not mean higher quality tho - most likely theyll just avoid the coat/cloak style in the future altogether.Edited by khele23eb17_ESO on July 25, 2016 11:14PMP2P offered you 'hell yeah!' moments. F2P offers you 'thank god its over' moments.2 -
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✭✭the breton hero costume wasn't that bad, now the elven hero one was the worst
I really cant agree with that. The elven is one of the better costumes in game. Youd take the fat ninja suit over it? Have you actually seen it in game?
Edited by khele23eb17_ESO on July 25, 2016 11:19PMP2P offered you 'hell yeah!' moments. F2P offers you 'thank god its over' moments.5 -
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✭✭✭khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Honestly, the fact that when mods lock other threads regarding this that they link those threads to this one is acknowledgement in my book.
No its not. Its damage control. You herd all complainers into one thread and its just a thread instead of a massive oucry overwhelming the forums. Then it eventually dies down and falls off the front page and the issue is gone.
And how would they know to herd them if they did not have a thread they know about to herd them into? Trust me, it's acknowledged.
Moderators arent devs. Mods saw the issue and contained it to be, most likely, ignored by the devs. Yeah, sure, maybe if barely anyone bought the costume theyll do something about the next ones that get made. That does not mean higher quality tho - most likely theyll just avoid the coat/cloak style in the future altogether.
They do work for the devs though, which means they are able to contact them. Also mods may very well report their actions to their "higher ups". Besides, this thread is 12 pages long and growing, how could the lurking devs NOT notice and acknowledge it lolGuildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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Nah. I am not having this issue die down. I am gonna keep smashing my head against ZOS' front door till something happens. (Probably brain dis-function from hitting my head so much)
I agree with you 100% but, ZOS knows full well that eventually this thread will get buried like so many others in the past voicing players concerns and discontent. All they have to do is sit back and wait. They could care less about the concerns of players there actions show that time and time again. However, they also know that the majority of players will stick around anyways.3 -
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✭the breton hero costume wasn't that bad, now the elven hero one was the worst
Absolutely not. It was far more detailed and far more related to the trailer / collectible figurine (yes, the thigh "gaps" are closed in the figurine!). I like it very much.
But Breton hero costume is just plain BAD. Like some sketch that needs so much more work and a totally different hood.2 -
Panda_iMunch✭✭✭✭It's sad to see that what a company would do that is entirely predicable. With no sub model, the standards are going to drop on what they push out sometimes, or just when they get lazy. The only way they could top this is if they released a motif and sold it day one and it doesn't have weapons included.0 -
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People saying how there can't be any Physics in clothing annoy me. Look at Guild Wars 2 if you haven't, almost every Long Coat, Cloak, Dress and draping cloth has Physics and moves with your Character, as well as having Superior Texture Quality to ESO and having massive scale PvP.
So please tell me again why 'ESO can't have Physics or cloaks.
This caught my eye, so I wanted to respond. GW2 clothes do not have straight cloth physics, they have skeletons for this kind of thing with a lot of frames and animations. Try jumping off a really really tall area with your robe on - trust me, your robe will not fly up. That would be physics and cloth simulation.
The only MMO's I can think of offhand that had actual cloth physics were EQ2 (it's noteworthy that EQ2 came out in Q4 2004, by the way) and SWTOR. Both have definite physics that move and react. FFXIV sometimes "looks" like it has cloth physics, but in reality it's not quite the same thing.
Anyway, with that said, I do still think this is worth putting time into on ZOS's part because it adds to the immersive feel of the world - and believe me, a lot of us are drawn in by immersion more than we consciously realize. I'd bore everybody with my favorite example (which is not even an MMORPG, but a superhero action game for PS3/XB360) but I'll try to stay on point.
And with THAT said, I would prefer it if we had cloth simulation, definitely. It's just more real, more satisfying, and the best part? it makes cloth-heavy outfits more form-fitting because they're affected by "gravity". However, I know that straight up cloth simulation is a very significant undertaking, relative to adding some more bones to the skeleton specifically for the purposes of cloaks and loose-hanging outfits. So the extra bones would be the easier option. They could even use Skyrim as an easy source to look at. Remember the nightingale armor? The cloak had no physics, but it had its own skeleton bones, so it didn't cling to your legs. Even just that much would be better than the current leg glue.4 -
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✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Honestly, the fact that when mods lock other threads regarding this that they link those threads to this one is acknowledgement in my book.
No its not. Its damage control. You herd all complainers into one thread and its just a thread instead of a massive oucry overwhelming the forums. Then it eventually dies down and falls off the front page and the issue is gone.
And how would they know to herd them if they did not have a thread they know about to herd them into? Trust me, it's acknowledged.
Moderators arent devs. Mods saw the issue and contained it to be, most likely, ignored by the devs. Yeah, sure, maybe if barely anyone bought the costume theyll do something about the next ones that get made. That does not mean higher quality tho - most likely theyll just avoid the coat/cloak style in the future altogether.
They do work for the devs though, which means they are able to contact them. Also mods may very well report their actions to their "higher ups". Besides, this thread is 12 pages long and growing, how could the lurking devs NOT notice and acknowledge it lol
I have a feeling youre now arguing over the semantics of the word. What does 'acknowledgement' do for us here? Not much really. Even if a community manager posted a message saying: we're working on it, it still would mean very little as far as actually getting things fixed. Good examples of this being: bloated motifs, broken light attack weaving, misshapen female armor meshes.Edited by khele23eb17_ESO on July 26, 2016 8:41AMP2P offered you 'hell yeah!' moments. F2P offers you 'thank god its over' moments.1 -
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✭khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Honestly, the fact that when mods lock other threads regarding this that they link those threads to this one is acknowledgement in my book.
No its not. Its damage control. You herd all complainers into one thread and its just a thread instead of a massive oucry overwhelming the forums. Then it eventually dies down and falls off the front page and the issue is gone.
And how would they know to herd them if they did not have a thread they know about to herd them into? Trust me, it's acknowledged.
Moderators arent devs. Mods saw the issue and contained it to be, most likely, ignored by the devs. Yeah, sure, maybe if barely anyone bought the costume theyll do something about the next ones that get made. That does not mean higher quality tho - most likely theyll just avoid the coat/cloak style in the future altogether.
They do work for the devs though, which means they are able to contact them. Also mods may very well report their actions to their "higher ups". Besides, this thread is 12 pages long and growing, how could the lurking devs NOT notice and acknowledge it lol
I have a feeling youre now arguing over the semantics of the word. What does 'acknowledgement' do for us here? Not much really. Even if a community manager posted a message saying: we're working on it, it still would mean very little as far as actually getting things fixed. Good examples of this being: bloated motifs, broken light attack weaving, misshapen female armor meshes.
Sank you. Zos sure listens to us...yes, we can see that from their past actions.I like sweetrolls and I cannot lie0
