EstelioVeleth wrote: »Sylveria_Relden wrote: »EstelioVeleth wrote: »True that, but by now the way I saw this game working is that ZOS doesnt even have to act butthurt because ZOS fanboys/girls do it for them... the rest of us are simply entitled just like you said it... Zos KNOWS they can charge 20 dollars for such a badly constructed costume exactly because there are people that defend them, and the only argument they have is "Dont like it? Dont buy it... Dont play it... Move to another game"...Oh well...
And the problem with "fanboi-ish" behavior is that it perpetuates bad PR for any company. If a company indeed wants to market itself, it will filter through information (both positive AND negative) and consider a direction that will ensure long term success, rather than catering to a small few "armchair lawyers" who think they have an idea of what's best.
Good companies will consider both- not just praise and back-slapping.
I agree completely...any serious company would actually care about ALL of their customers, however:
Honestly, I am not expecting anything from this company when their creative directors are just as childish as some people on this forum. Never ever...have I seen such a response from someone to one of their costumers. From a corner cafe? Maybe.
Companies should never give that kind of response to someone that purchased their product, if they dont have anything better to say, than they shouldnt say anything at all. It was a very petty response... best thing? It has like 74 awesome. Even better? Those awesomes contribute to the direction this game is heading. Even better? That is the generation that gets the same treatment in real life, themselves apologizing for it and fight the worlds problems with #s and safe spaces...but I am going off topic here and will probably get my comment removed.
Anyone who has bought the costume even though they don't like it and are coming here to complain... You are not the solution. You are the problem.
Stop buying *** you don't like. Vote with your wallet. By buying it you have just told ZOS I like this enough to spend the amount of crowns you were selling it for.
Preview it, if you don't like it then come and say why you aren't buying it.
I get some aspects(anything involving movement) aren't previewable but the majority of complaints regarding this were.
FortheloveofKrist wrote: »
Pretty big issue.
Just to point out the glaring problem here. While previewing, you can't move, which makes the whole costume a false advertising as the most glaring problem is the cloak sticking to your backside, which is impossible to figure out without buying.
Transairion wrote: »Just to point out the glaring problem here. While previewing, you can't move, which makes the whole costume a false advertising as the most glaring problem is the cloak sticking to your backside, which is impossible to figure out without buying.
It only takes 1 player to buy the product and provide video for the other hundreds/thousands of players to see how it works, and such video was up within hours of it being made purchasable.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but ESO is also completely devoid of capes/cloaks that fly out behind "superman style" (or at all) so simply assuming this costume suddenly would without explanation was a fool's endeavor, sorry to say.
I mean, I am the only person who previews stuff online and ingame BEFORE buying in any and every game I've played like this? Seems like a of LOT of impulse buyers...
PurifedBladez wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »EstelioVeleth wrote: »Sylveria_Relden wrote: »EstelioVeleth wrote: »True that, but by now the way I saw this game working is that ZOS doesnt even have to act butthurt because ZOS fanboys/girls do it for them... the rest of us are simply entitled just like you said it... Zos KNOWS they can charge 20 dollars for such a badly constructed costume exactly because there are people that defend them, and the only argument they have is "Dont like it? Dont buy it... Dont play it... Move to another game"...Oh well...
And the problem with "fanboi-ish" behavior is that it perpetuates bad PR for any company. If a company indeed wants to market itself, it will filter through information (both positive AND negative) and consider a direction that will ensure long term success, rather than catering to a small few "armchair lawyers" who think they have an idea of what's best.
Good companies will consider both- not just praise and back-slapping.
I agree completely...any serious company would actually care about ALL of their customers, however:
Honestly, I am not expecting anything from this company when their creative directors are just as childish as some people on this forum. Never ever...have I seen such a response from someone to one of their costumers. From a corner cafe? Maybe.
Companies should never give that kind of response to someone that purchased their product, if they dont have anything better to say, than they shouldnt say anything at all. It was a very petty response... best thing? It has like 74 awesome. Even better? Those awesomes contribute to the direction this game is heading. Even better? That is the generation that gets the same treatment in real life, themselves apologizing for it and fight the worlds problems with #s and safe spaces...but I am going off topic here and will probably get my comment removed.
Stop trying to twist what Rich said. That was said in a thread where he was not acting as a dev but as a fellow player. That thread was like a vacation for him to just talk with the community and people like the one he replied to were trying to derail it.
No that's not a thing. He's a dev, he has a responsibility to the players. He didn't handle the question well at all. That was unprofessional.
If he wanted to post as a player he shouldn't of done it under a ZOS tag.
PurifedBladez wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »EstelioVeleth wrote: »Sylveria_Relden wrote: »EstelioVeleth wrote: »True that, but by now the way I saw this game working is that ZOS doesnt even have to act butthurt because ZOS fanboys/girls do it for them... the rest of us are simply entitled just like you said it... Zos KNOWS they can charge 20 dollars for such a badly constructed costume exactly because there are people that defend them, and the only argument they have is "Dont like it? Dont buy it... Dont play it... Move to another game"...Oh well...
And the problem with "fanboi-ish" behavior is that it perpetuates bad PR for any company. If a company indeed wants to market itself, it will filter through information (both positive AND negative) and consider a direction that will ensure long term success, rather than catering to a small few "armchair lawyers" who think they have an idea of what's best.
Good companies will consider both- not just praise and back-slapping.
I agree completely...any serious company would actually care about ALL of their customers, however:
Honestly, I am not expecting anything from this company when their creative directors are just as childish as some people on this forum. Never ever...have I seen such a response from someone to one of their costumers. From a corner cafe? Maybe.
Companies should never give that kind of response to someone that purchased their product, if they dont have anything better to say, than they shouldnt say anything at all. It was a very petty response... best thing? It has like 74 awesome. Even better? Those awesomes contribute to the direction this game is heading. Even better? That is the generation that gets the same treatment in real life, themselves apologizing for it and fight the worlds problems with #s and safe spaces...but I am going off topic here and will probably get my comment removed.
Stop trying to twist what Rich said. That was said in a thread where he was not acting as a dev but as a fellow player. That thread was like a vacation for him to just talk with the community and people like the one he replied to were trying to derail it.
No that's not a thing. He's a dev, he has a responsibility to the players. He didn't handle the question well at all. That was unprofessional.
If he wanted to post as a player he shouldn't of done it under a ZOS tag.
This has to be seen in perspective - that thread came up as follow up to a webcast, where Rich was a guest and talked not just about the game but as well about him being an actual player - and when he answered in this thread this was about personal matters and not about game issues. People asked him about what he likes with the game, what he has tried, what his personal experiences are as a player. This thread was clearly about the person Rich, not about his function as a developer.
But I think as well, that his reaction was inappropriate, and I think he knows this as well - he shouldn't have been rude but he is a person with feelings as well - and this just got to him and he overreacted - but to get to him with game issues when he is in a "private mode" is as well inappropriate - both sides just chose the wrong time to make these statements. Both are humans, humans make mistakes and overreact at times.
Ghost-Shot wrote: »PurifedBladez wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »EstelioVeleth wrote: »Sylveria_Relden wrote: »EstelioVeleth wrote: »True that, but by now the way I saw this game working is that ZOS doesnt even have to act butthurt because ZOS fanboys/girls do it for them... the rest of us are simply entitled just like you said it... Zos KNOWS they can charge 20 dollars for such a badly constructed costume exactly because there are people that defend them, and the only argument they have is "Dont like it? Dont buy it... Dont play it... Move to another game"...Oh well...
And the problem with "fanboi-ish" behavior is that it perpetuates bad PR for any company. If a company indeed wants to market itself, it will filter through information (both positive AND negative) and consider a direction that will ensure long term success, rather than catering to a small few "armchair lawyers" who think they have an idea of what's best.
Good companies will consider both- not just praise and back-slapping.
I agree completely...any serious company would actually care about ALL of their customers, however:
Honestly, I am not expecting anything from this company when their creative directors are just as childish as some people on this forum. Never ever...have I seen such a response from someone to one of their costumers. From a corner cafe? Maybe.
Companies should never give that kind of response to someone that purchased their product, if they dont have anything better to say, than they shouldnt say anything at all. It was a very petty response... best thing? It has like 74 awesome. Even better? Those awesomes contribute to the direction this game is heading. Even better? That is the generation that gets the same treatment in real life, themselves apologizing for it and fight the worlds problems with #s and safe spaces...but I am going off topic here and will probably get my comment removed.
Stop trying to twist what Rich said. That was said in a thread where he was not acting as a dev but as a fellow player. That thread was like a vacation for him to just talk with the community and people like the one he replied to were trying to derail it.
No that's not a thing. He's a dev, he has a responsibility to the players. He didn't handle the question well at all. That was unprofessional.
If he wanted to post as a player he shouldn't of done it under a ZOS tag.
This has to be seen in perspective - that thread came up as follow up to a webcast, where Rich was a guest and talked not just about the game but as well about him being an actual player - and when he answered in this thread this was about personal matters and not about game issues. People asked him about what he likes with the game, what he has tried, what his personal experiences are as a player. This thread was clearly about the person Rich, not about his function as a developer.
But I think as well, that his reaction was inappropriate, and I think he knows this as well - he shouldn't have been rude but he is a person with feelings as well - and this just got to him and he overreacted - but to get to him with game issues when he is in a "private mode" is as well inappropriate - both sides just chose the wrong time to make these statements. Both are humans, humans make mistakes and overreact at times.
As one of the people in charge of the game, that was an unacceptable response and really shows how little they actually care about the community. It is his responsibility to make sure customers are satisfied and not fire off with a response like you don't have to be here. It was unprofessional and created a PR nightmare, I wonder if that why I haven't seen a post from him since that day.
Anyone who has bought the costume even though they don't like it and are coming here to complain... You are not the solution. You are the problem.
Stop buying *** you don't like. Vote with your wallet. By buying it you have just told ZOS I like this enough to spend the amount of crowns you were selling it for.
Preview it, if you don't like it then come and say why you aren't buying it.
I get some aspects(anything involving movement) aren't previewable but the majority of complaints regarding this were.
Anyone who has bought the costume even though they don't like it and are coming here to complain... You are not the solution. You are the problem.
Stop buying *** you don't like. Vote with your wallet. By buying it you have just told ZOS I like this enough to spend the amount of crowns you were selling it for.
Preview it, if you don't like it then come and say why you aren't buying it.
I get some aspects(anything involving movement) aren't previewable but the majority of complaints regarding this were.
Right... so I should just not buy the costume, wait for the time window to close, and then when (if) it gets fixed, not have it?
Just because I bought it, doesn't mean I can't complain.