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Strongest Healing Build In This Meta - a parting gift

  • Mako1132
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    Satiar wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »

    The most effective healer is the one who's gotta a friendly NB nearby to throw out a fear when the going gets rough ;)

    What about a healer who IS a nightblade and can fear for himself? :^) Sorry but I'm a support heals mageblade fanatic.

    Satiar wrote: »
    ALSO: sharpened bug makes me so ehhhh on heavy armor :(

    Wut? Elaborate please, what exactly is bugged? :fearful:

    Theyve broken it so many times, I no longer have faith when they fix it :D

    And you don't have to convert me to NB heals, back when the only accepted role for a magica NB was as a healer! I do not remember those days fondly. I enjoyed healing but I didn't role a NB to spam healing springs lol

    Krim sap tank was so new and wild .

    The good old days when we cleared AA and Hel'ra without a NB so everyone assumed they were useless. Krim's tankiness was probably only ever outdone by that sorc guy.

    Also, I specifically remember you tunnel-visioning me at an entire arrius siege keep that actually lasted a good while. It was so annoying getting ambushed and wrecking blowed every 3 seconds. I think you were the first melee stamblade I ever saw that wasn't an RP stealth assassin nerd who died in 2 second and did no damage.
  • Zheg
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    Zheg wrote: »
    Why is this the best healing build in pvp right now? Two reasons:
    1. With Fasalla's and the cornucopia of heal debuffs, pure heals is no longer optimal in most fights. You still need them, but they don't go as far. Heals + Shields ... that's where it's at. Healing Ward > Breath/HtD in many cases. If you can have a 2nd healer focusing on burst heals while you run combat physician, that's optimal.
    2. Behind door number 2, combat physician applies it's CD per person, not per effect. You put rapid regen on someone, they will get a 5.1k shield (if you commit to 100 in bastion) as soon as they start taking damage and get it again after 6 seconds. One person in this can keep the entire group in free shields (no crit hits, 5.1k is equal to a weak harness magicka) every 6 seconds. Every tick of your purify or healing springs that crits also gives them a shield. Since you can have both rapid regen and mutagen apply to someone, have other people in group re-morph to mutagen so nothing ever overwrites your rapid regen HoT. Whoever is lucky enough to be hit by your 19.5k barrier will also get the HoT from that for 30 seconds.
    To get back to topic and stop insulting each other, can anyone confirm this? I tested it today and never got more than one proc each 6 sec even when multiple group members were constantly taking damage and I had multiple hots on them.

    I can confirm it, many times over. Remember it only procs on critical heals, and they actually have to be healed, you can't do it on full health bars. Get a few friends, have them spam equilibrium, put rapid regen on them, that should do the trick for your confirmation testing.
  • FENGRUSH
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    Zheg wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    Why is this the best healing build in pvp right now? Two reasons:
    1. With Fasalla's and the cornucopia of heal debuffs, pure heals is no longer optimal in most fights. You still need them, but they don't go as far. Heals + Shields ... that's where it's at. Healing Ward > Breath/HtD in many cases. If you can have a 2nd healer focusing on burst heals while you run combat physician, that's optimal.
    2. Behind door number 2, combat physician applies it's CD per person, not per effect. You put rapid regen on someone, they will get a 5.1k shield (if you commit to 100 in bastion) as soon as they start taking damage and get it again after 6 seconds. One person in this can keep the entire group in free shields (no crit hits, 5.1k is equal to a weak harness magicka) every 6 seconds. Every tick of your purify or healing springs that crits also gives them a shield. Since you can have both rapid regen and mutagen apply to someone, have other people in group re-morph to mutagen so nothing ever overwrites your rapid regen HoT. Whoever is lucky enough to be hit by your 19.5k barrier will also get the HoT from that for 30 seconds.
    To get back to topic and stop insulting each other, can anyone confirm this? I tested it today and never got more than one proc each 6 sec even when multiple group members were constantly taking damage and I had multiple hots on them.

    I can confirm it, many times over. Remember it only procs on critical heals, and they actually have to be healed, you can't do it on full health bars. Get a few friends, have them spam equilibrium, put rapid regen on them, that should do the trick for your confirmation testing.

    Sounds like a bug - hope you reported it for 2017 fixes.
  • Zheg
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    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    Why is this the best healing build in pvp right now? Two reasons:
    1. With Fasalla's and the cornucopia of heal debuffs, pure heals is no longer optimal in most fights. You still need them, but they don't go as far. Heals + Shields ... that's where it's at. Healing Ward > Breath/HtD in many cases. If you can have a 2nd healer focusing on burst heals while you run combat physician, that's optimal.
    2. Behind door number 2, combat physician applies it's CD per person, not per effect. You put rapid regen on someone, they will get a 5.1k shield (if you commit to 100 in bastion) as soon as they start taking damage and get it again after 6 seconds. One person in this can keep the entire group in free shields (no crit hits, 5.1k is equal to a weak harness magicka) every 6 seconds. Every tick of your purify or healing springs that crits also gives them a shield. Since you can have both rapid regen and mutagen apply to someone, have other people in group re-morph to mutagen so nothing ever overwrites your rapid regen HoT. Whoever is lucky enough to be hit by your 19.5k barrier will also get the HoT from that for 30 seconds.
    To get back to topic and stop insulting each other, can anyone confirm this? I tested it today and never got more than one proc each 6 sec even when multiple group members were constantly taking damage and I had multiple hots on them.

    I can confirm it, many times over. Remember it only procs on critical heals, and they actually have to be healed, you can't do it on full health bars. Get a few friends, have them spam equilibrium, put rapid regen on them, that should do the trick for your confirmation testing.

    Sounds like a bug - hope you reported it for 2017 fixes.

    If Wrobel considers this a bug then the set would be absolutely pointless after his 'fix'. If multiple people could proc shields on the same person, then that should be a bug and be fixed.
  • Satiar
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    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    _Chaos wrote: »
    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Poxheart wrote: »
    emma666 wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    This set up was an absolute life-saver oh my god. If only more than one of us had farmed it lol. Oh well.

    Also did I just see a "put your healers on Fasallas" for real?
    What's wrong about fasalla on healers? When I'm on my templar and run e.g. with 2 stam dks and a sorc, almost all half decent players target me first, so imo it makes sense for me to use fasalla.

    Nothing wrong with fasallas on support templar, at all. VE players aren't very experienced in smaller groups and have dedicated fasalla tanks because they have numbers to dedicate solely to that, while smaller groups often have builds that do a bit of everything, heals, tank and dps. Keep on rocking your Fasallas :)

    I don't even play this game anymore, but I know the bolded part isn't true at all. Satiar, Bulbisar, and Teargrants are all very good/experienced running small groups and I'm sure many of the other VE members are as well.

    I cant unsee this video someone posted of VE in a 6 or 7 man group dying to like 300 CP people. Who actually moves as a proxy ball at 7 man group size and dies to a handful of people...

    They definitely have some good players in there, and then... theres probably some people that cant small group pvp at all really.

    link me chief

    Sorry - forgot the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwl4MIl2A4k

    @ataggs youre in there too bro. Sick nasty small scale PvP from this healer. But I guess these 300CP guys are 'more competitive' being on trueflame! Look out for the light attacks hitting wall from recorder.

    This coming from a guy that uses malubeth and QQs about healing in the game and everything else lmfao
    Only thing i see in that video is 4 dead AD bodies in the cubby followed by 10-15 blues.... At nikel gate...... In TF..... We all know how quickly those 10-15 turn to a zerg. Im not in VE but theyre playing on their AD toons(their 3rd re-roll) and most of them arent even maxed out.

    That was definitely a better attempt than Zhegs invisible army from above that would have killed them. At least you pretended they did kill them while not being there, and their group size was actually half of what it really was.

    I'm still trying to figure out why this is even being brought up. Some VE members died...

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    And?

    The relevancy escapes me.


    I dont know - did you sort of skip over the part where I posted the video?
    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Poxheart wrote: »
    emma666 wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    This set up was an absolute life-saver oh my god. If only more than one of us had farmed it lol. Oh well.

    Also did I just see a "put your healers on Fasallas" for real?
    What's wrong about fasalla on healers? When I'm on my templar and run e.g. with 2 stam dks and a sorc, almost all half decent players target me first, so imo it makes sense for me to use fasalla.

    Nothing wrong with fasallas on support templar, at all. VE players aren't very experienced in smaller groups and have dedicated fasalla tanks because they have numbers to dedicate solely to that, while smaller groups often have builds that do a bit of everything, heals, tank and dps. Keep on rocking your Fasallas :)

    I don't even play this game anymore, but I know the bolded part isn't true at all. Satiar, Bulbisar, and Teargrants are all very good/experienced running small groups and I'm sure many of the other VE members are as well.

    I cant unsee this video someone posted of VE in a 6 or 7 man group dying to like 300 CP people. Who actually moves as a proxy ball at 7 man group size and dies to a handful of people...

    They definitely have some good players in there, and then... theres probably some people that cant small group pvp at all really.

    In response to people saying they can small man PvP - and related to this build 'working' in small man PvP. Sure, it will work, but in a 4v4 against top tier small man groups youre going to get knocked out with this build. A matter of opinion - one you should be able to respect @Satiar . Youve had the opportunity to fight against me more than Zheg.

    Zheg wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    _Chaos wrote: »
    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Poxheart wrote: »
    emma666 wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    This set up was an absolute life-saver oh my god. If only more than one of us had farmed it lol. Oh well.

    Also did I just see a "put your healers on Fasallas" for real?
    What's wrong about fasalla on healers? When I'm on my templar and run e.g. with 2 stam dks and a sorc, almost all half decent players target me first, so imo it makes sense for me to use fasalla.

    Nothing wrong with fasallas on support templar, at all. VE players aren't very experienced in smaller groups and have dedicated fasalla tanks because they have numbers to dedicate solely to that, while smaller groups often have builds that do a bit of everything, heals, tank and dps. Keep on rocking your Fasallas :)

    I don't even play this game anymore, but I know the bolded part isn't true at all. Satiar, Bulbisar, and Teargrants are all very good/experienced running small groups and I'm sure many of the other VE members are as well.

    I cant unsee this video someone posted of VE in a 6 or 7 man group dying to like 300 CP people. Who actually moves as a proxy ball at 7 man group size and dies to a handful of people...

    They definitely have some good players in there, and then... theres probably some people that cant small group pvp at all really.

    link me chief

    Sorry - forgot the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwl4MIl2A4k

    @ataggs youre in there too bro. Sick nasty small scale PvP from this healer. But I guess these 300CP guys are 'more competitive' being on trueflame! Look out for the light attacks hitting wall from recorder.

    This coming from a guy that uses malubeth and QQs about healing in the game and everything else lmfao
    Only thing i see in that video is 4 dead AD bodies in the cubby followed by 10-15 blues.... At nikel gate...... In TF..... We all know how quickly those 10-15 turn to a zerg. Im not in VE but theyre playing on their AD toons(their 3rd re-roll) and most of them arent even maxed out.

    That was definitely a better attempt than Zhegs invisible army from above that would have killed them. At least you pretended they did kill them while not being there, and their group size was actually half of what it really was.

    I'm still trying to figure out why this is even being brought up. Some VE members died...

    ....

    ...

    And?

    The relevancy escapes me.

    Because he respects the guild so much and large group play so much. He said so, on the internetz, it must be true.

    I do respect what VE could accomplish as a ball group. I respect what Khole acheived in running in smaller sized ball groups too.

    I also dont like that the game caters to ball group mechanics - but if you want to win, thats your best route to go. Sorry to break your heart with the cold reality Zheg. Youd probably prefer to hear me scream and holler that everything VE does is bad and theres a bunch of no talent players there instead of doing what I do and telling it how it is.

    I still don't see the relevance. You posted a video of a few VE people dying and.... What? I have no idea what you were trying to prove, but it has nothing to do with Zhegs healer build.

    Looking at your text, my guess is you posted it to take a potshot. Which is... Juvenile but ok. There's plenty of videos of actual VE raids wiping and plenty of us kicking ass, none of which have anything to do this.

    I'd suggest the next time you feel inclined to try a cheap potshot like that, ask yourself: in your 3 years of playing this game, have you ever died stupid? Ive played long enough to know the answer is Yes. Then ask yourself if that has anything to do with anything. I'll wager the answer is No.
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  • Satiar
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    Mako1132 wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »

    The most effective healer is the one who's gotta a friendly NB nearby to throw out a fear when the going gets rough ;)

    What about a healer who IS a nightblade and can fear for himself? :^) Sorry but I'm a support heals mageblade fanatic.

    Satiar wrote: »
    ALSO: sharpened bug makes me so ehhhh on heavy armor :(

    Wut? Elaborate please, what exactly is bugged? :fearful:

    Theyve broken it so many times, I no longer have faith when they fix it :D

    And you don't have to convert me to NB heals, back when the only accepted role for a magica NB was as a healer! I do not remember those days fondly. I enjoyed healing but I didn't role a NB to spam healing springs lol

    Krim sap tank was so new and wild .

    The good old days when we cleared AA and Hel'ra without a NB so everyone assumed they were useless. Krim's tankiness was probably only ever outdone by that sorc guy.

    Also, I specifically remember you tunnel-visioning me at an entire arrius siege keep that actually lasted a good while. It was so annoying getting ambushed and wrecking blowed every 3 seconds. I think you were the first melee stamblade I ever saw that wasn't an RP stealth assassin nerd who died in 2 second and did no damage.

    And here I thought my coming out party was chasing @Winnamine around a rock at Sej for 10 minutes :smiley:

    I miss being unique :/
    Edited by Satiar on July 16, 2016 12:13AM
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  • Mako1132
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    Satiar wrote: »
    Mako1132 wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »

    The most effective healer is the one who's gotta a friendly NB nearby to throw out a fear when the going gets rough ;)

    What about a healer who IS a nightblade and can fear for himself? :^) Sorry but I'm a support heals mageblade fanatic.

    Satiar wrote: »
    ALSO: sharpened bug makes me so ehhhh on heavy armor :(

    Wut? Elaborate please, what exactly is bugged? :fearful:

    Theyve broken it so many times, I no longer have faith when they fix it :D

    And you don't have to convert me to NB heals, back when the only accepted role for a magica NB was as a healer! I do not remember those days fondly. I enjoyed healing but I didn't role a NB to spam healing springs lol

    Krim sap tank was so new and wild .

    The good old days when we cleared AA and Hel'ra without a NB so everyone assumed they were useless. Krim's tankiness was probably only ever outdone by that sorc guy.

    Also, I specifically remember you tunnel-visioning me at an entire arrius siege keep that actually lasted a good while. It was so annoying getting ambushed and wrecking blowed every 3 seconds. I think you were the first melee stamblade I ever saw that wasn't an RP stealth assassin nerd who died in 2 second and did no damage.

    And here I thought my coming out party was chasing @Winnamine around a rock at Sej for 10 minutes :smiley:

    I miss being unique :/

    You're still the best ambush spammer NA if that counts for anything ;)
  • Satiar
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    Mako1132 wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    Mako1132 wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »

    The most effective healer is the one who's gotta a friendly NB nearby to throw out a fear when the going gets rough ;)

    What about a healer who IS a nightblade and can fear for himself? :^) Sorry but I'm a support heals mageblade fanatic.

    Satiar wrote: »
    ALSO: sharpened bug makes me so ehhhh on heavy armor :(

    Wut? Elaborate please, what exactly is bugged? :fearful:

    Theyve broken it so many times, I no longer have faith when they fix it :D

    And you don't have to convert me to NB heals, back when the only accepted role for a magica NB was as a healer! I do not remember those days fondly. I enjoyed healing but I didn't role a NB to spam healing springs lol

    Krim sap tank was so new and wild .

    The good old days when we cleared AA and Hel'ra without a NB so everyone assumed they were useless. Krim's tankiness was probably only ever outdone by that sorc guy.

    Also, I specifically remember you tunnel-visioning me at an entire arrius siege keep that actually lasted a good while. It was so annoying getting ambushed and wrecking blowed every 3 seconds. I think you were the first melee stamblade I ever saw that wasn't an RP stealth assassin nerd who died in 2 second and did no damage.

    And here I thought my coming out party was chasing @Winnamine around a rock at Sej for 10 minutes :smiley:

    I miss being unique :/

    You're still the best ambush spammer NA if that counts for anything ;)

    Sigh
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    Knights Paravant -- Co-GM and Raid Lead -- AD Greyhost



  • Mako1132
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    Satiar wrote: »
    Mako1132 wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    Mako1132 wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »

    The most effective healer is the one who's gotta a friendly NB nearby to throw out a fear when the going gets rough ;)

    What about a healer who IS a nightblade and can fear for himself? :^) Sorry but I'm a support heals mageblade fanatic.

    Satiar wrote: »
    ALSO: sharpened bug makes me so ehhhh on heavy armor :(

    Wut? Elaborate please, what exactly is bugged? :fearful:

    Theyve broken it so many times, I no longer have faith when they fix it :D

    And you don't have to convert me to NB heals, back when the only accepted role for a magica NB was as a healer! I do not remember those days fondly. I enjoyed healing but I didn't role a NB to spam healing springs lol

    Krim sap tank was so new and wild .

    The good old days when we cleared AA and Hel'ra without a NB so everyone assumed they were useless. Krim's tankiness was probably only ever outdone by that sorc guy.

    Also, I specifically remember you tunnel-visioning me at an entire arrius siege keep that actually lasted a good while. It was so annoying getting ambushed and wrecking blowed every 3 seconds. I think you were the first melee stamblade I ever saw that wasn't an RP stealth assassin nerd who died in 2 second and did no damage.

    And here I thought my coming out party was chasing @Winnamine around a rock at Sej for 10 minutes :smiley:

    I miss being unique :/

    You're still the best ambush spammer NA if that counts for anything ;)

    Sigh

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  • frozywozy
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    Mako1132 wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    Mako1132 wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »

    The most effective healer is the one who's gotta a friendly NB nearby to throw out a fear when the going gets rough ;)

    What about a healer who IS a nightblade and can fear for himself? :^) Sorry but I'm a support heals mageblade fanatic.

    Satiar wrote: »
    ALSO: sharpened bug makes me so ehhhh on heavy armor :(

    Wut? Elaborate please, what exactly is bugged? :fearful:

    Theyve broken it so many times, I no longer have faith when they fix it :D

    And you don't have to convert me to NB heals, back when the only accepted role for a magica NB was as a healer! I do not remember those days fondly. I enjoyed healing but I didn't role a NB to spam healing springs lol

    Krim sap tank was so new and wild .

    The good old days when we cleared AA and Hel'ra without a NB so everyone assumed they were useless. Krim's tankiness was probably only ever outdone by that sorc guy.

    Also, I specifically remember you tunnel-visioning me at an entire arrius siege keep that actually lasted a good while. It was so annoying getting ambushed and wrecking blowed every 3 seconds. I think you were the first melee stamblade I ever saw that wasn't an RP stealth assassin nerd who died in 2 second and did no damage.

    And here I thought my coming out party was chasing @Winnamine around a rock at Sej for 10 minutes :smiley:

    I miss being unique :/

    You're still the best ambush spammer NA if that counts for anything ;)

    Yeah I also have a pretty good memory of me retrying magDK when VD came out and fighting behind bleakers 1 against 3 DCs with Satiar just spamming ambush continuously. Then I hear people saying that Teargrants, @Zheg and @Satiar have had glorious moment in small scale PVP and I roll my eyes.
    Edited by frozywozy on July 16, 2016 12:41AM
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  • Satiar
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    frozywozy wrote: »
    Mako1132 wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    Mako1132 wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »

    The most effective healer is the one who's gotta a friendly NB nearby to throw out a fear when the going gets rough ;)

    What about a healer who IS a nightblade and can fear for himself? :^) Sorry but I'm a support heals mageblade fanatic.

    Satiar wrote: »
    ALSO: sharpened bug makes me so ehhhh on heavy armor :(

    Wut? Elaborate please, what exactly is bugged? :fearful:

    Theyve broken it so many times, I no longer have faith when they fix it :D

    And you don't have to convert me to NB heals, back when the only accepted role for a magica NB was as a healer! I do not remember those days fondly. I enjoyed healing but I didn't role a NB to spam healing springs lol

    Krim sap tank was so new and wild .

    The good old days when we cleared AA and Hel'ra without a NB so everyone assumed they were useless. Krim's tankiness was probably only ever outdone by that sorc guy.

    Also, I specifically remember you tunnel-visioning me at an entire arrius siege keep that actually lasted a good while. It was so annoying getting ambushed and wrecking blowed every 3 seconds. I think you were the first melee stamblade I ever saw that wasn't an RP stealth assassin nerd who died in 2 second and did no damage.

    And here I thought my coming out party was chasing @Winnamine around a rock at Sej for 10 minutes :smiley:

    I miss being unique :/

    You're still the best ambush spammer NA if that counts for anything ;)

    Yeah I also have a pretty good memory of me retrying magDK when VD came out and fighting behind bleakers 1 against 3 DCs with Satiar just spamming ambush continuously. Then I hear people saying that Teargrants, @Zheg and @Satiar have had glorious moment in small scale PVP and I roll my eyes.

    Another satisfied customer!
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  • Zheg
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    Satiar wrote: »
    frozywozy wrote: »
    Mako1132 wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    Mako1132 wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »

    The most effective healer is the one who's gotta a friendly NB nearby to throw out a fear when the going gets rough ;)

    What about a healer who IS a nightblade and can fear for himself? :^) Sorry but I'm a support heals mageblade fanatic.

    Satiar wrote: »
    ALSO: sharpened bug makes me so ehhhh on heavy armor :(

    Wut? Elaborate please, what exactly is bugged? :fearful:

    Theyve broken it so many times, I no longer have faith when they fix it :D

    And you don't have to convert me to NB heals, back when the only accepted role for a magica NB was as a healer! I do not remember those days fondly. I enjoyed healing but I didn't role a NB to spam healing springs lol

    Krim sap tank was so new and wild .

    The good old days when we cleared AA and Hel'ra without a NB so everyone assumed they were useless. Krim's tankiness was probably only ever outdone by that sorc guy.

    Also, I specifically remember you tunnel-visioning me at an entire arrius siege keep that actually lasted a good while. It was so annoying getting ambushed and wrecking blowed every 3 seconds. I think you were the first melee stamblade I ever saw that wasn't an RP stealth assassin nerd who died in 2 second and did no damage.

    And here I thought my coming out party was chasing @Winnamine around a rock at Sej for 10 minutes :smiley:

    I miss being unique :/

    You're still the best ambush spammer NA if that counts for anything ;)

    Yeah I also have a pretty good memory of me retrying magDK when VD came out and fighting behind bleakers 1 against 3 DCs with Satiar just spamming ambush continuously. Then I hear people saying that Teargrants, @Zheg and @Satiar have had glorious moment in small scale PVP and I roll my eyes.

    Another satisfied customer!

    Given the name of your old ts channel, im not sure i want to know how you satisfied him...
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    Zheg wrote: »
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    Why is this the best healing build in pvp right now? Two reasons:
    1. With Fasalla's and the cornucopia of heal debuffs, pure heals is no longer optimal in most fights. You still need them, but they don't go as far. Heals + Shields ... that's where it's at. Healing Ward > Breath/HtD in many cases. If you can have a 2nd healer focusing on burst heals while you run combat physician, that's optimal.
    2. Behind door number 2, combat physician applies it's CD per person, not per effect. You put rapid regen on someone, they will get a 5.1k shield (if you commit to 100 in bastion) as soon as they start taking damage and get it again after 6 seconds. One person in this can keep the entire group in free shields (no crit hits, 5.1k is equal to a weak harness magicka) every 6 seconds. Every tick of your purify or healing springs that crits also gives them a shield. Since you can have both rapid regen and mutagen apply to someone, have other people in group re-morph to mutagen so nothing ever overwrites your rapid regen HoT. Whoever is lucky enough to be hit by your 19.5k barrier will also get the HoT from that for 30 seconds.
    To get back to topic and stop insulting each other, can anyone confirm this? I tested it today and never got more than one proc each 6 sec even when multiple group members were constantly taking damage and I had multiple hots on them.

    I can confirm it, many times over. Remember it only procs on critical heals, and they actually have to be healed, you can't do it on full health bars. Get a few friends, have them spam equilibrium, put rapid regen on them, that should do the trick for your confirmation testing.
    I had my group standing in stupid while I spammed healing springs with about 75% spell crit. Is it possible that ZOS realized what you did and sneaky changed it recently?
    But I'll try again tomorrow and have them spam spell symetry while I heal them on my magblade to push my crit even higher.
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    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    _Chaos wrote: »
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    Poxheart wrote: »
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    This set up was an absolute life-saver oh my god. If only more than one of us had farmed it lol. Oh well.

    Also did I just see a "put your healers on Fasallas" for real?
    What's wrong about fasalla on healers? When I'm on my templar and run e.g. with 2 stam dks and a sorc, almost all half decent players target me first, so imo it makes sense for me to use fasalla.

    Nothing wrong with fasallas on support templar, at all. VE players aren't very experienced in smaller groups and have dedicated fasalla tanks because they have numbers to dedicate solely to that, while smaller groups often have builds that do a bit of everything, heals, tank and dps. Keep on rocking your Fasallas :)

    I don't even play this game anymore, but I know the bolded part isn't true at all. Satiar, Bulbisar, and Teargrants are all very good/experienced running small groups and I'm sure many of the other VE members are as well.

    I cant unsee this video someone posted of VE in a 6 or 7 man group dying to like 300 CP people. Who actually moves as a proxy ball at 7 man group size and dies to a handful of people...

    They definitely have some good players in there, and then... theres probably some people that cant small group pvp at all really.

    link me chief

    Sorry - forgot the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwl4MIl2A4k

    @ataggs youre in there too bro. Sick nasty small scale PvP from this healer. But I guess these 300CP guys are 'more competitive' being on trueflame! Look out for the light attacks hitting wall from recorder.

    That's my healer, Jurassic Punk. Why was I brought into this?

    I click the mouse button to what ever music beat is playing. It's an old habit. It's not "light attacking the air".
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    Any other outsiders to this conversation think it seems like that prince fabulous guy acts like some kid living in his mother's basement?
    You earned the 500 LOLs badge.
    You received 500 LOLs. It ain't no fluke, you post great stuff and we're lucky to have you here. +50 points
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    Erock25 wrote: »
    Any other outsiders to this conversation think it seems like that prince fabulous guy acts like some kid living in his mother's basement?

    He'd never talk that way with his mother present. Its why fengrush is more behaved.
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    Erock25 wrote: »
    Any other outsiders to this conversation think it seems like that prince fabulous guy acts like some kid living in his mother's basement?

    Telel has begun to report him to the appropriate authorities in just about every thread now as he seems to be cyber stalking certain players.

    Considering ZOS's swift reply to this latest tantrum of his we're not the only one who thinks he needs some parental supervision.


    @Zheg thanks for the thread. Telel has been trying to point newer players at healing builds that take into account things like heal debuffs and snare spam so this will be a handy reference to send them to.
    Character: Telel
    Class: Night Blade-Werewolf-viking-ninja-catgirl-mallet wielder
    Past times: Refusing to go full magika spec, hitting things with a big hammer, sniping, and speaking in khajiit
    Also: Gelel the Derp Knight, Altsel the streaker, and Filafel the temp temp.

    Khajiit has a twitch stream! https://twitch.tv/telel_khajiit feel free to come see how truly unskilled Telel is.
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    Thanks for sharing. I always thought the cooldown would be global so I was quite underwhelmed by it. If its actually a cd per target it changes everything.
    - EU - Raid Leader of Banana Zerg Squad
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    EP | AR 50 | Sanctosaurus | Mana NB
    AD | AR 44 | rekt ya | Mana NB
    AD | AR 41 | Sanct Thunderstorm | Mana Sorc
    EP | AR 36 | S'na'ct | Mana NB {NA}
    AD | AR 29 | Captain Full Fist| Stam DK
    AD | AR 29 | Sanct The Dark Phoenix| Stam Sorc
    EP | AR 16 | Horny Sanct | Stam Warden
    EP | AR 16 | Sánct Bánáná Sláyér | Mana DK
    DC | AR 13 | ad worst faction eu | Stam Sorc
    DC | AR 13 | Lagendary Sanct | Mana NB

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    yall need to go outside

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    krobin02 wrote: »
    I don't usually post just read the forums instead. I have run with Zheg on both factions and his build has saved our rear more times then I can count. I run a healer build that is slightly different but that is my own reasons. The current beta that we are in is completely toxic and it works for the mid to large size groups without a question from my experience.

    FYI this is a mule account not my main account that is why I don't have my character names on it.

    Why the runaround? Why not just say that you're VE and you came here due to the guild drama? This is like Jason Blaha and his CopperTopp22 BS he pulled lol. A mule account without character names, more like CopperTopp22ESO :D This thread delivers

    Related screencap: db1a9b5d3326eebbf85f9e79e400e87d.jpg
    Edited by TooskSG on July 16, 2016 2:56AM
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    Maztiax wrote: »
    yall need to go outside

    *fades back into shadows*

    LOL 10/10 sir

    Telel wrote: »
    Erock25 wrote: »
    Any other outsiders to this conversation think it seems like that prince fabulous guy acts like some kid living in his mother's basement?

    Telel has begun to report him to the appropriate authorities in just about every thread now as he seems to be cyber stalking certain players.

    He is lol both here and in game. :lol: I've started ignoring him. Not worth the time or stress.
    Edited by KenaPKK on July 16, 2016 3:19AM
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    TooskSG wrote: »
    krobin02 wrote: »
    I don't usually post just read the forums instead. I have run with Zheg on both factions and his build has saved our rear more times then I can count. I run a healer build that is slightly different but that is my own reasons. The current beta that we are in is completely toxic and it works for the mid to large size groups without a question from my experience.

    FYI this is a mule account not my main account that is why I don't have my character names on it.

    Why the runaround? Why not just say that you're VE and you came here due to the guild drama? This is like Jason Blaha and his CopperTopp22 BS he pulled lol. A mule account without character names, more like CopperTopp22ESO :D This thread delivers

    Related screencap: db1a9b5d3326eebbf85f9e79e400e87d.jpg

    The conspiracy theories, pettiness, salt ... I'd have to say that one of ESO's highest successes was that it was able to breed so many of you.
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    Zheg wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    krobin02 wrote: »
    I don't usually post just read the forums instead. I have run with Zheg on both factions and his build has saved our rear more times then I can count. I run a healer build that is slightly different but that is my own reasons. The current beta that we are in is completely toxic and it works for the mid to large size groups without a question from my experience.

    FYI this is a mule account not my main account that is why I don't have my character names on it.

    Why the runaround? Why not just say that you're VE and you came here due to the guild drama? This is like Jason Blaha and his CopperTopp22 BS he pulled lol. A mule account without character names, more like CopperTopp22ESO :D This thread delivers

    Related screencap: db1a9b5d3326eebbf85f9e79e400e87d.jpg

    The conspiracy theories, pettiness, salt ... I'd have to say that one of ESO's highest successes was that it was able to breed so many of you.

    Not really a theory conspiracy when it was just shown that he distanced himself from his guild in an attempt to validate how "your build" saved asses. Quite ridiculous to attempt that sort of thing when there's a video a few posts prior showing said individual wiping to Roechaccha. Oh ***, I'm sorry, his main account is under deep cover and he's not at liberty to disclose who he is while making claims (trust him, bro). He is under deep cover and has over 300 VE small man fights in 2016 alone, but he's not at liberty to disclose this on his main account, so trust him, bro.

    Seriously, VE threads make my day, not only for the lulz content but also the zerging. On TS: Quick guys, we need more likes because that shows peer validation; it doesn't reinforce others' perceptions of how we are desperate for peer validation at all, trust me, bro

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    TooskSG wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    krobin02 wrote: »
    I don't usually post just read the forums instead. I have run with Zheg on both factions and his build has saved our rear more times then I can count. I run a healer build that is slightly different but that is my own reasons. The current beta that we are in is completely toxic and it works for the mid to large size groups without a question from my experience.

    FYI this is a mule account not my main account that is why I don't have my character names on it.

    Why the runaround? Why not just say that you're VE and you came here due to the guild drama? This is like Jason Blaha and his CopperTopp22 BS he pulled lol. A mule account without character names, more like CopperTopp22ESO :D This thread delivers

    Related screencap: db1a9b5d3326eebbf85f9e79e400e87d.jpg

    The conspiracy theories, pettiness, salt ... I'd have to say that one of ESO's highest successes was that it was able to breed so many of you.

    Not really a theory conspiracy when it was just shown that he distanced himself from his guild in an attempt to validate how "your build" saved asses. Quite ridiculous to attempt that sort of thing when there's a video a few posts prior showing said individual wiping to Roechaccha. Oh ***, I'm sorry, his main account is under deep cover and he's not at liberty to disclose who he is while making claims (trust him, bro). He is under deep cover and has over 300 VE small man fights in 2016 alone, but he's not at liberty to disclose this on his main account, so trust him, bro.

    Seriously, VE threads make my day, not only for the lulz content but also the zerging. On TS: Quick guys, we need more likes because that shows peer validation; it doesn't reinforce others' perceptions of how we are desperate for peer validation at all, trust me, bro

    I can't even respond to you because I'm actually concerned you're on the verge of a mental breakdown and I don't need the guilt.
  • TooskSG
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    Zheg wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    krobin02 wrote: »
    I don't usually post just read the forums instead. I have run with Zheg on both factions and his build has saved our rear more times then I can count. I run a healer build that is slightly different but that is my own reasons. The current beta that we are in is completely toxic and it works for the mid to large size groups without a question from my experience.

    FYI this is a mule account not my main account that is why I don't have my character names on it.

    Why the runaround? Why not just say that you're VE and you came here due to the guild drama? This is like Jason Blaha and his CopperTopp22 BS he pulled lol. A mule account without character names, more like CopperTopp22ESO :D This thread delivers

    Related screencap: db1a9b5d3326eebbf85f9e79e400e87d.jpg

    The conspiracy theories, pettiness, salt ... I'd have to say that one of ESO's highest successes was that it was able to breed so many of you.

    Not really a theory conspiracy when it was just shown that he distanced himself from his guild in an attempt to validate how "your build" saved asses. Quite ridiculous to attempt that sort of thing when there's a video a few posts prior showing said individual wiping to Roechaccha. Oh ***, I'm sorry, his main account is under deep cover and he's not at liberty to disclose who he is while making claims (trust him, bro). He is under deep cover and has over 300 VE small man fights in 2016 alone, but he's not at liberty to disclose this on his main account, so trust him, bro.

    Seriously, VE threads make my day, not only for the lulz content but also the zerging. On TS: Quick guys, we need more likes because that shows peer validation; it doesn't reinforce others' perceptions of how we are desperate for peer validation at all, trust me, bro

    I can't even respond to you because I'm actually concerned you're on the verge of a mental breakdown and I don't need the guilt.

    You resort to laughable (read: pitiful) one-liners to save face when you cannot counter a point. Don't worry, it's only shown in your post history. Inb4 I get a passive-aggressive reference in one of your OPs like you did to Feng. Oh, that and the feigning innocence as if you, for a second, thought a passive-aggressive sub post would be considered a joke by anyone but your in-group.

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    Edited by TooskSG on July 16, 2016 3:29AM
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    If there's a conspiracy theory, I want in.


    (Let's be real for a minute)

    So the video shows VE losing a fight. Big deal. Everything is situational. We didn't let it go to Our heads and most of the joking had to be edited out with music because Demario is one of the most racist black men on the planet and every other word out of Alkaid is is a huge bleeper. Cydone is the most mild. So we made a few jokes, no one in my group really thinks anything about who the best and who isn't. We just like good clean fight. An it's clear we got a few good fights that night. No one was cheating or sending hate tells.

    Don't take the video out of context. Some days VE gets beat by some casuals, sometimes we get beat by a group of even more casuals then us. We go through the whole denial process too with raised voices in TS saying WTF?.

    VE, you have some nice people in your guild. You have some not so nice too like most of Us. Sorry to see your retiring. I like a lot of people other people think I hate. Subtomik was my favorite to argue with. AOE was second. The rest can stick it. Lol

    Take care fellas.
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    TooskSG wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    krobin02 wrote: »
    I don't usually post just read the forums instead. I have run with Zheg on both factions and his build has saved our rear more times then I can count. I run a healer build that is slightly different but that is my own reasons. The current beta that we are in is completely toxic and it works for the mid to large size groups without a question from my experience.

    FYI this is a mule account not my main account that is why I don't have my character names on it.

    Why the runaround? Why not just say that you're VE and you came here due to the guild drama? This is like Jason Blaha and his CopperTopp22 BS he pulled lol. A mule account without character names, more like CopperTopp22ESO :D This thread delivers

    Related screencap: db1a9b5d3326eebbf85f9e79e400e87d.jpg

    The conspiracy theories, pettiness, salt ... I'd have to say that one of ESO's highest successes was that it was able to breed so many of you.

    Not really a theory conspiracy when it was just shown that he distanced himself from his guild in an attempt to validate how "your build" saved asses. Quite ridiculous to attempt that sort of thing when there's a video a few posts prior showing said individual wiping to Roechaccha. Oh ***, I'm sorry, his main account is under deep cover and he's not at liberty to disclose who he is while making claims (trust him, bro). He is under deep cover and has over 300 VE small man fights in 2016 alone, but he's not at liberty to disclose this on his main account, so trust him, bro.

    Seriously, VE threads make my day, not only for the lulz content but also the zerging. On TS: Quick guys, we need more likes because that shows peer validation; it doesn't reinforce others' perceptions of how we are desperate for peer validation at all, trust me, bro

    I can't even respond to you because I'm actually concerned you're on the verge of a mental breakdown and I don't need the guilt.

    You resort to laughable (read: pitiful) one-liners to save face when you cannot counter a point. Don't worry, it's only shown in your post history. Inb4 I get a passive-aggressive reference in one of your OPs like you did to Feng. Oh, that and the feigning innocence as if you, for a second, thought a passive-aggressive sub post would be considered a joke by anyone but your in-group.

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    do you even hear yourself? Continue ranting, maybe you'll do everyone a favor and give yourself an aneurysm.
    Edited by Zheg on July 16, 2016 3:32AM
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    you're all a bunch of poopieheads
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    Zheg wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    krobin02 wrote: »
    I don't usually post just read the forums instead. I have run with Zheg on both factions and his build has saved our rear more times then I can count. I run a healer build that is slightly different but that is my own reasons. The current beta that we are in is completely toxic and it works for the mid to large size groups without a question from my experience.

    FYI this is a mule account not my main account that is why I don't have my character names on it.

    Why the runaround? Why not just say that you're VE and you came here due to the guild drama? This is like Jason Blaha and his CopperTopp22 BS he pulled lol. A mule account without character names, more like CopperTopp22ESO :D This thread delivers

    Related screencap: db1a9b5d3326eebbf85f9e79e400e87d.jpg

    The conspiracy theories, pettiness, salt ... I'd have to say that one of ESO's highest successes was that it was able to breed so many of you.

    Not really a theory conspiracy when it was just shown that he distanced himself from his guild in an attempt to validate how "your build" saved asses. Quite ridiculous to attempt that sort of thing when there's a video a few posts prior showing said individual wiping to Roechaccha. Oh ***, I'm sorry, his main account is under deep cover and he's not at liberty to disclose who he is while making claims (trust him, bro). He is under deep cover and has over 300 VE small man fights in 2016 alone, but he's not at liberty to disclose this on his main account, so trust him, bro.

    Seriously, VE threads make my day, not only for the lulz content but also the zerging. On TS: Quick guys, we need more likes because that shows peer validation; it doesn't reinforce others' perceptions of how we are desperate for peer validation at all, trust me, bro

    I can't even respond to you because I'm actually concerned you're on the verge of a mental breakdown and I don't need the guilt.

    You resort to laughable (read: pitiful) one-liners to save face when you cannot counter a point. Don't worry, it's only shown in your post history. Inb4 I get a passive-aggressive reference in one of your OPs like you did to Feng. Oh, that and the feigning innocence as if you, for a second, thought a passive-aggressive sub post would be considered a joke by anyone but your in-group.

    Lipton_Kermit-630x422.png

    GlTwCV.gif

    do you even hear yourself? Continue ranting, maybe you'll do everyone a favor and give yourself an aneurysm.

    Hear my own typing? Do you hear your own typing? If so, then your abnormal projection of self onto others and excessive posturing over forums is wholly clear now. Btw, thanks for further reinforcing the whole "You resort to laughable (read: pitiful) one-liners to save face when you cannot counter a point."
    Edited by TooskSG on July 16, 2016 3:36AM
  • Zheg
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    TooskSG wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    krobin02 wrote: »
    I don't usually post just read the forums instead. I have run with Zheg on both factions and his build has saved our rear more times then I can count. I run a healer build that is slightly different but that is my own reasons. The current beta that we are in is completely toxic and it works for the mid to large size groups without a question from my experience.

    FYI this is a mule account not my main account that is why I don't have my character names on it.

    Why the runaround? Why not just say that you're VE and you came here due to the guild drama? This is like Jason Blaha and his CopperTopp22 BS he pulled lol. A mule account without character names, more like CopperTopp22ESO :D This thread delivers

    Related screencap: db1a9b5d3326eebbf85f9e79e400e87d.jpg

    The conspiracy theories, pettiness, salt ... I'd have to say that one of ESO's highest successes was that it was able to breed so many of you.

    Not really a theory conspiracy when it was just shown that he distanced himself from his guild in an attempt to validate how "your build" saved asses. Quite ridiculous to attempt that sort of thing when there's a video a few posts prior showing said individual wiping to Roechaccha. Oh ***, I'm sorry, his main account is under deep cover and he's not at liberty to disclose who he is while making claims (trust him, bro). He is under deep cover and has over 300 VE small man fights in 2016 alone, but he's not at liberty to disclose this on his main account, so trust him, bro.

    Seriously, VE threads make my day, not only for the lulz content but also the zerging. On TS: Quick guys, we need more likes because that shows peer validation; it doesn't reinforce others' perceptions of how we are desperate for peer validation at all, trust me, bro

    I can't even respond to you because I'm actually concerned you're on the verge of a mental breakdown and I don't need the guilt.

    You resort to laughable (read: pitiful) one-liners to save face when you cannot counter a point. Don't worry, it's only shown in your post history. Inb4 I get a passive-aggressive reference in one of your OPs like you did to Feng. Oh, that and the feigning innocence as if you, for a second, thought a passive-aggressive sub post would be considered a joke by anyone but your in-group.

    Lipton_Kermit-630x422.png

    GlTwCV.gif

    do you even hear yourself? Continue ranting, maybe you'll do everyone a favor and give yourself an aneurysm.

    Hear my own typing? Do you hear your own typing? If so, then your abnormal projection of self onto others and excessive posturing over forums is wholly clear now. Btw, thanks for further reinforcing the whole "You resort to laughable (read: pitiful) one-liners to save face when you cannot counter a point."

    You may be the first on the forums to complain about me only typing one line. Such a trend setter you are.
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