Strongest Healing Build In This Meta - a parting gift

PainfulFAFA · July 2016

To add some relevance to this thread, that is a good healing build for PvP. Personally, on my templar, i take out Willpower and Kags and throw in Transmutation instead to make everyone tanky AND with shields with slightly weaker heals

Zheg · July 2016

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

To add some relevance to this thread, that is a good healing build for PvP. Personally, on my templar, i take out Willpower and Kags and throw in Transmutation instead to make everyone tanky AND with shields with slightly weaker heals

Thats what i originally planned on, and even golded trans weapons to do it, but at the end of the day i couldnt give up a heavy chest. If i had a heavy kena helm with impen when i ran this it may have happened, but shoulders were all i had. We had enough people in trans to rotate in that it wasnt necessary for me to as well. It synergizes well since your best way to crit heal is with hots that would then proc trans.

KenaPKK · July 2016

Zheg wrote: »

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

To add some relevance to this thread, that is a good healing build for PvP. Personally, on my templar, i take out Willpower and Kags and throw in Transmutation instead to make everyone tanky AND with shields with slightly weaker heals

Thats what i originally planned on, and even golded trans weapons to do it, but at the end of the day i couldnt give up a heavy chest. If i had a heavy kena helm with impen when i ran this it may have happened, but shoulders were all i had. We had enough people in trans to rotate in that it wasnt necessary for me to as well. It synergizes well since your best way to crit heal is with hots that would then proc trans.

Plus kagsplar resses. With another Trans or two in group already, you wouldn't have needed another. Kags was the correct decision if you were doing frequent ressing.

What is the point of all this debate over whether this actually is the "best heal build in this meta?"

Here's some context. The more people you place around a healer using the Combat Physician set, the stronger it becomes. Same with Transmutation. They scale well with numbers.

VE plays (played?) large scale combat.

Assuming VE had SPC and Trans and other buff sets present, Zheg's use of Combat Physician was the most impactful utility set for him to choose to use in his group at the time.

Blah blah, other people jealous they didn't have the idea or farm the set, blah blah. Props Zheg.

Xsorus · July 2016

I don't think one healer or two depending on if it stacked would be a bad thing; the extra shield would help I imagine in some situations

Ghost-Shot · July 2016

Xsorus wrote: »

I don't think one healer or two depending on if it stacked would be a bad thing; the extra shield would help I imagine in some situations

Its really nice with all the negates going around to help keep people alive when negates go out, its also basically 100% impen when the shield procs.

Zheg · July 2016

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

I don't think one healer or two depending on if it stacked would be a bad thing; the extra shield would help I imagine in some situations

Its really nice with all the negates going around to help keep people alive when negates go out, its also basically 100% impen when the shield procs.

Maybe i was ambitious in calling it the best healing build for this meta, its just ... i was able to keep ghost alive, so it seemed an obvious title.

Ghost-Shot · July 2016

Zheg wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

I don't think one healer or two depending on if it stacked would be a bad thing; the extra shield would help I imagine in some situations

Its really nice with all the negates going around to help keep people alive when negates go out, its also basically 100% impen when the shield procs.

Maybe i was ambitious in calling it the best healing build for this meta, its just ... i was able to keep ghost alive, so it seemed an obvious title.

^

KenaPKK · July 2016

Zheg wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

I don't think one healer or two depending on if it stacked would be a bad thing; the extra shield would help I imagine in some situations

Its really nice with all the negates going around to help keep people alive when negates go out, its also basically 100% impen when the shield procs.

Maybe i was ambitious in calling it the best healing build for this meta, its just ... i was able to keep ghost alive, so it seemed an obvious title.

*cough*

KenaPKK wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

To add some relevance to this thread, that is a good healing build for PvP. Personally, on my templar, i take out Willpower and Kags and throw in Transmutation instead to make everyone tanky AND with shields with slightly weaker heals

Thats what i originally planned on, and even golded trans weapons to do it, but at the end of the day i couldnt give up a heavy chest. If i had a heavy kena helm with impen when i ran this it may have happened, but shoulders were all i had. We had enough people in trans to rotate in that it wasnt necessary for me to as well. It synergizes well since your best way to crit heal is with hots that would then proc trans.

Kags was the correct decision if you were doing frequent ressing.

Zheg · July 2016

There is no need for 5 kags when your f button to rez sends you into a frenzied tbagging session. Thats what forward camps are for.

Astanphaeus · July 2016

Zheg wrote: »

There is no need for 5 kags when your f button to rez sends you into a frenzied tbagging session. Thats what forward camps are for.

omg, the number of times I've sent friend/trade requests to dead people...

Sotha_Sil · July 2016

Nifty2g wrote: »

You won't melt if it's a raid build, which it is

Yes, while being in a raid, you will benefit from other buffs and abilities but you definitely will be a liability if you get in trouble as you are squishy as hell imo.

Nifty2g wrote: »

The fact you want a dunmer as a healer makes me question your experience, you're saying fire resistance as if it's widely useful, which it isn't. Grab a Breton in that case to mitigate all spells not just fire. The stamina is nice but it's barely anything compared to imperial

I am not saying dunmer is the best race as a healer in pvp. I'm just saying it is a selectable one. Sure, Imperial has good stam but no magicka bonus... dunmer is more of a hybrid class providing both stamina and magicka that you both need in pvp, so it could be an option. OP didn't mention it as if it wasn't. And the fire resistance is just something else in the mix. I didn't say "widely" useful.

Nifty2g wrote: »

Seducer is pretty generic and in the current state it's not needed, far too many ways to infinite sustain

If you are in full light, sure. In heavy + no CP campaign, that will not be the case. It definitely depends of where you play and the kind of fights you run into.

Astanphaeus · July 2016

Heavy armor is completely unnecessary on a healer (in a large to full raid) and is a sign that someone doesn't know how to block cast, dodge roll, and/or simply step out of the way.

frozywozy · July 2016

Astanphaeus wrote: »

Heavy armor is completely unnecessary on a healer and is a sign that someone doesn't know how to block cast, dodge roll, and/or simply step out of the way.

Seems like you haven't encountered Kodi/Alvarez/Fengrush/Essa 5-6k weap dmg Dawnbreaker / Executioner combo.

Zheg · July 2016

frozywozy wrote: »

Astanphaeus wrote: »

Heavy armor is completely unnecessary on a healer and is a sign that someone doesn't know how to block cast, dodge roll, and/or simply step out of the way.

Seems like you haven't encountered Kodi/Alvarez/Fengrush/Essa 5-6k weap dmg Dawnbreaker / Executioner combo.

7k+ harness up before their opener, blocks and mist form, wont be as bad as youre trying to make it. Caught off guard, sure, dead as much as one dies to the pure gankers in TF. But, most likely theyd get killed by the group and start cursing about being zerged. Theres also something to be said for how much healers look out for each other and will instantly toss a breath your way.

Also, im not ashamed to admit ive barriered myself at times, intentionally. Try ganking 40k+ worth of shields, followed by burst heal and a mist form in the direction of allies.

In a large keep fight, they are a nuisance, never the main threat. Bombard spam and negates by 50+, thats a different story.

DisgracefulMind · July 2016

Kinda sad to see someone's thread about their healer build turn into player/guild shaming and more unnecessary arguments and insults towards one another.

Combat Physician is an awesome idea, Zheg, I can see it working extremely well in the negate meta.

Satiar · July 2016

frozywozy wrote: »

Astanphaeus wrote: »

Heavy armor is completely unnecessary on a healer and is a sign that someone doesn't know how to block cast, dodge roll, and/or simply step out of the way.

Seems like you haven't encountered Kodi/Alvarez/Fengrush/Essa 5-6k weap dmg Dawnbreaker / Executioner combo.

Not to sound dismissive, but that's just life as a healer. Teargrants and I killed pretty much every healer of note in this game that way at some point because you simply can't maximize both sustain AND your sheer heal output in a group build. At a certain point you're sacrificing one or the other, and I'd say the choice to keep your comrades alive and trust them to do the same for you is a legitimate one.

The most effective healer is the one who's gotta a friendly NB nearby to throw out a fear when the going gets rough

ALSO: sharpened bug makes me so ehhhh on heavy armor

KenaPKK · July 2016

Satiar wrote: »

The most effective healer is the one who's gotta a friendly NB nearby to throw out a fear when the going gets rough

What about a healer who IS a nightblade and can fear for himself? :^) Sorry but I'm a support heals mageblade fanatic.

Satiar wrote: »

ALSO: sharpened bug makes me so ehhhh on heavy armor

Wut? Elaborate please, what exactly is bugged?

Ghost-Shot · July 2016

KenaPKK wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

The most effective healer is the one who's gotta a friendly NB nearby to throw out a fear when the going gets rough

What about a healer who IS a nightblade and can fear for himself? :^) Sorry but I'm a support heals mageblade fanatic.

Satiar wrote: »

ALSO: sharpened bug makes me so ehhhh on heavy armor

Wut? Elaborate please, what exactly is bugged?

I think they fixed the sharpened bug, sharpened and maces used to stack in a really wierd way that basically gave you close to 100% armor pen.

Satiar · July 2016

KenaPKK wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

The most effective healer is the one who's gotta a friendly NB nearby to throw out a fear when the going gets rough

What about a healer who IS a nightblade and can fear for himself? :^) Sorry but I'm a support heals mageblade fanatic.

Satiar wrote: »

ALSO: sharpened bug makes me so ehhhh on heavy armor

Wut? Elaborate please, what exactly is bugged?

Theyve broken it so many times, I no longer have faith when they fix it

And you don't have to convert me to NB heals, back when the only accepted role for a magica NB was as a healer! I do not remember those days fondly. I enjoyed healing but I didn't role a NB to spam healing springs lol

Krim sap tank was so new and wild .

MoeCoastie · July 2016

Everytime I read these "ultimate build" threads I think and wonder...

I wonder if these "meta-monkeys" throw out builds with the intention of fielding a counter build for free APs.

That's the conspiracy theorist in me =/

FENGRUSH · July 2016

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

_Chaos wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Poxheart wrote: »

emma666 wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

This set up was an absolute life-saver oh my god. If only more than one of us had farmed it lol. Oh well.

Also did I just see a "put your healers on Fasallas" for real?

What's wrong about fasalla on healers? When I'm on my templar and run e.g. with 2 stam dks and a sorc, almost all half decent players target me first, so imo it makes sense for me to use fasalla.

Nothing wrong with fasallas on support templar, at all. VE players aren't very experienced in smaller groups and have dedicated fasalla tanks because they have numbers to dedicate solely to that, while smaller groups often have builds that do a bit of everything, heals, tank and dps. Keep on rocking your Fasallas

I don't even play this game anymore, but I know the bolded part isn't true at all. Satiar, Bulbisar, and Teargrants are all very good/experienced running small groups and I'm sure many of the other VE members are as well.

I cant unsee this video someone posted of VE in a 6 or 7 man group dying to like 300 CP people. Who actually moves as a proxy ball at 7 man group size and dies to a handful of people...

They definitely have some good players in there, and then... theres probably some people that cant small group pvp at all really.

link me chief

Sorry - forgot the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwl4MIl2A4k

@ataggs youre in there too bro. Sick nasty small scale PvP from this healer. But I guess these 300CP guys are 'more competitive' being on trueflame! Look out for the light attacks hitting wall from recorder.

This coming from a guy that uses malubeth and QQs about healing in the game and everything else lmfao
Only thing i see in that video is 4 dead AD bodies in the cubby followed by 10-15 blues.... At nikel gate...... In TF..... We all know how quickly those 10-15 turn to a zerg. Im not in VE but theyre playing on their AD toons(their 3rd re-roll) and most of them arent even maxed out.

That was definitely a better attempt than Zhegs invisible army from above that would have killed them. At least you pretended they did kill them while not being there, and their group size was actually half of what it really was.

Zheg · July 2016

MoeCoastie wrote: »

Everytime I read these "ultimate build" threads I think and wonder...

I wonder if these "meta-monkeys" throw out builds with the intention of fielding a counter build for free APs.

That's the conspiracy theorist in me =/

That's fair, but not the intention here. It's a set that works surprising well, particularly against heal debuffs, and it's a set I know very few have tried/thought of because ewww pve and ewww IC traits. When DB dropped I tested just about every potential set and combo of sets to figure out what healers would do well in, talked to my healers and got their thoughts, and this set was like night and day for me having played a more traditional set-up for a year and a half prior. The improvement in survivability was instantly noticeable for me. The success will vary on the player (it is squish if you aren't good about your harness and positioning), and the group comp and style. But there were times when I found myself keeping up groups of pugs that normally would have been massacred against organized raid bombs.

If you are worried about the counter build, another fun tidbit I discovered whilst testing on the DB PTS ... shield breaker works on sorc overload heavy attacks. Think back to the barrier days ... throw in a tanky stam sorc holding overload heavy attacks on a ball group and they'd melt because the shield breaker will proc on every person in that heavy attack aoe. Niche, but fun. Now you know how to handle the potential counter build if this was all just a dirty trick! xD

KenaPKK · July 2016

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

The most effective healer is the one who's gotta a friendly NB nearby to throw out a fear when the going gets rough

What about a healer who IS a nightblade and can fear for himself? :^) Sorry but I'm a support heals mageblade fanatic.

Satiar wrote: »

ALSO: sharpened bug makes me so ehhhh on heavy armor

Wut? Elaborate please, what exactly is bugged?

I think they fixed the sharpened bug, sharpened and maces used to stack in a really wierd way that basically gave you close to 100% armor pen.

Oh yea I remember that. That was forever ago.

Zheg · July 2016

FENGRUSH wrote: »

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

_Chaos wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Poxheart wrote: »

emma666 wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

This set up was an absolute life-saver oh my god. If only more than one of us had farmed it lol. Oh well.

Also did I just see a "put your healers on Fasallas" for real?

What's wrong about fasalla on healers? When I'm on my templar and run e.g. with 2 stam dks and a sorc, almost all half decent players target me first, so imo it makes sense for me to use fasalla.

Nothing wrong with fasallas on support templar, at all. VE players aren't very experienced in smaller groups and have dedicated fasalla tanks because they have numbers to dedicate solely to that, while smaller groups often have builds that do a bit of everything, heals, tank and dps. Keep on rocking your Fasallas

I don't even play this game anymore, but I know the bolded part isn't true at all. Satiar, Bulbisar, and Teargrants are all very good/experienced running small groups and I'm sure many of the other VE members are as well.

I cant unsee this video someone posted of VE in a 6 or 7 man group dying to like 300 CP people. Who actually moves as a proxy ball at 7 man group size and dies to a handful of people...

They definitely have some good players in there, and then... theres probably some people that cant small group pvp at all really.

link me chief

Sorry - forgot the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwl4MIl2A4k

@ataggs youre in there too bro. Sick nasty small scale PvP from this healer. But I guess these 300CP guys are 'more competitive' being on trueflame! Look out for the light attacks hitting wall from recorder.

This coming from a guy that uses malubeth and QQs about healing in the game and everything else lmfao
Only thing i see in that video is 4 dead AD bodies in the cubby followed by 10-15 blues.... At nikel gate...... In TF..... We all know how quickly those 10-15 turn to a zerg. Im not in VE but theyre playing on their AD toons(their 3rd re-roll) and most of them arent even maxed out.

That was definitely a better attempt than Zhegs invisible army from above that would have killed them. At least you pretended they did kill them while not being there, and their group size was actually half of what it really was.

Zheg · July 2016

KenaPKK wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

The most effective healer is the one who's gotta a friendly NB nearby to throw out a fear when the going gets rough

What about a healer who IS a nightblade and can fear for himself? :^) Sorry but I'm a support heals mageblade fanatic.

Satiar wrote: »

ALSO: sharpened bug makes me so ehhhh on heavy armor

Wut? Elaborate please, what exactly is bugged?

I think they fixed the sharpened bug, sharpened and maces used to stack in a really wierd way that basically gave you close to 100% armor pen.

Oh yea I remember that. That was forever ago.

Even without the bug, sharpened is silly powerful, particularly when combined with major breach debuffs and potentially a mace on top of it. Armor doesn't mean all that much in ESO, the stat has been confused since launch. Remember when people had max armor in 7 light armor? I do. The current iteration is just as confused.

Satiar · July 2016

FENGRUSH wrote: »

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

_Chaos wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Poxheart wrote: »

emma666 wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

This set up was an absolute life-saver oh my god. If only more than one of us had farmed it lol. Oh well.

Also did I just see a "put your healers on Fasallas" for real?

What's wrong about fasalla on healers? When I'm on my templar and run e.g. with 2 stam dks and a sorc, almost all half decent players target me first, so imo it makes sense for me to use fasalla.

Nothing wrong with fasallas on support templar, at all. VE players aren't very experienced in smaller groups and have dedicated fasalla tanks because they have numbers to dedicate solely to that, while smaller groups often have builds that do a bit of everything, heals, tank and dps. Keep on rocking your Fasallas

I don't even play this game anymore, but I know the bolded part isn't true at all. Satiar, Bulbisar, and Teargrants are all very good/experienced running small groups and I'm sure many of the other VE members are as well.

I cant unsee this video someone posted of VE in a 6 or 7 man group dying to like 300 CP people. Who actually moves as a proxy ball at 7 man group size and dies to a handful of people...

They definitely have some good players in there, and then... theres probably some people that cant small group pvp at all really.

link me chief

Sorry - forgot the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwl4MIl2A4k

@ataggs youre in there too bro. Sick nasty small scale PvP from this healer. But I guess these 300CP guys are 'more competitive' being on trueflame! Look out for the light attacks hitting wall from recorder.

This coming from a guy that uses malubeth and QQs about healing in the game and everything else lmfao
Only thing i see in that video is 4 dead AD bodies in the cubby followed by 10-15 blues.... At nikel gate...... In TF..... We all know how quickly those 10-15 turn to a zerg. Im not in VE but theyre playing on their AD toons(their 3rd re-roll) and most of them arent even maxed out.

That was definitely a better attempt than Zhegs invisible army from above that would have killed them. At least you pretended they did kill them while not being there, and their group size was actually half of what it really was.

I'm still trying to figure out why this is even being brought up. Some VE members died...

....

...

And?

The relevancy escapes me.

Satiar · July 2016

KenaPKK wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

The most effective healer is the one who's gotta a friendly NB nearby to throw out a fear when the going gets rough

What about a healer who IS a nightblade and can fear for himself? :^) Sorry but I'm a support heals mageblade fanatic.

Satiar wrote: »

ALSO: sharpened bug makes me so ehhhh on heavy armor

Wut? Elaborate please, what exactly is bugged?

I think they fixed the sharpened bug, sharpened and maces used to stack in a really wierd way that basically gave you close to 100% armor pen.

Oh yea I remember that. That was forever ago.

They've broken it as recently as this DLC, and it's not the first time

Zheg · July 2016

Satiar wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

_Chaos wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Poxheart wrote: »

emma666 wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

This set up was an absolute life-saver oh my god. If only more than one of us had farmed it lol. Oh well.

Also did I just see a "put your healers on Fasallas" for real?

What's wrong about fasalla on healers? When I'm on my templar and run e.g. with 2 stam dks and a sorc, almost all half decent players target me first, so imo it makes sense for me to use fasalla.

Nothing wrong with fasallas on support templar, at all. VE players aren't very experienced in smaller groups and have dedicated fasalla tanks because they have numbers to dedicate solely to that, while smaller groups often have builds that do a bit of everything, heals, tank and dps. Keep on rocking your Fasallas

I don't even play this game anymore, but I know the bolded part isn't true at all. Satiar, Bulbisar, and Teargrants are all very good/experienced running small groups and I'm sure many of the other VE members are as well.

I cant unsee this video someone posted of VE in a 6 or 7 man group dying to like 300 CP people. Who actually moves as a proxy ball at 7 man group size and dies to a handful of people...

They definitely have some good players in there, and then... theres probably some people that cant small group pvp at all really.

link me chief

Sorry - forgot the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwl4MIl2A4k

@ataggs youre in there too bro. Sick nasty small scale PvP from this healer. But I guess these 300CP guys are 'more competitive' being on trueflame! Look out for the light attacks hitting wall from recorder.

This coming from a guy that uses malubeth and QQs about healing in the game and everything else lmfao
Only thing i see in that video is 4 dead AD bodies in the cubby followed by 10-15 blues.... At nikel gate...... In TF..... We all know how quickly those 10-15 turn to a zerg. Im not in VE but theyre playing on their AD toons(their 3rd re-roll) and most of them arent even maxed out.

That was definitely a better attempt than Zhegs invisible army from above that would have killed them. At least you pretended they did kill them while not being there, and their group size was actually half of what it really was.

I'm still trying to figure out why this is even being brought up. Some VE members died...

....

...

And?

The relevancy escapes me.

Because he respects the guild so much and large group play so much. He said so, on the internetz, it must be true.

FENGRUSH · July 2016

Satiar wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

_Chaos wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Poxheart wrote: »

emma666 wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

This set up was an absolute life-saver oh my god. If only more than one of us had farmed it lol. Oh well.

Also did I just see a "put your healers on Fasallas" for real?

What's wrong about fasalla on healers? When I'm on my templar and run e.g. with 2 stam dks and a sorc, almost all half decent players target me first, so imo it makes sense for me to use fasalla.

Nothing wrong with fasallas on support templar, at all. VE players aren't very experienced in smaller groups and have dedicated fasalla tanks because they have numbers to dedicate solely to that, while smaller groups often have builds that do a bit of everything, heals, tank and dps. Keep on rocking your Fasallas

I don't even play this game anymore, but I know the bolded part isn't true at all. Satiar, Bulbisar, and Teargrants are all very good/experienced running small groups and I'm sure many of the other VE members are as well.

I cant unsee this video someone posted of VE in a 6 or 7 man group dying to like 300 CP people. Who actually moves as a proxy ball at 7 man group size and dies to a handful of people...

They definitely have some good players in there, and then... theres probably some people that cant small group pvp at all really.

link me chief

Sorry - forgot the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwl4MIl2A4k

@ataggs youre in there too bro. Sick nasty small scale PvP from this healer. But I guess these 300CP guys are 'more competitive' being on trueflame! Look out for the light attacks hitting wall from recorder.

This coming from a guy that uses malubeth and QQs about healing in the game and everything else lmfao
Only thing i see in that video is 4 dead AD bodies in the cubby followed by 10-15 blues.... At nikel gate...... In TF..... We all know how quickly those 10-15 turn to a zerg. Im not in VE but theyre playing on their AD toons(their 3rd re-roll) and most of them arent even maxed out.

That was definitely a better attempt than Zhegs invisible army from above that would have killed them. At least you pretended they did kill them while not being there, and their group size was actually half of what it really was.

I'm still trying to figure out why this is even being brought up. Some VE members died...

....

...

And?

The relevancy escapes me.

I dont know - did you sort of skip over the part where I posted the video?

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Poxheart wrote: »

emma666 wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

This set up was an absolute life-saver oh my god. If only more than one of us had farmed it lol. Oh well.

Also did I just see a "put your healers on Fasallas" for real?

What's wrong about fasalla on healers? When I'm on my templar and run e.g. with 2 stam dks and a sorc, almost all half decent players target me first, so imo it makes sense for me to use fasalla.

Nothing wrong with fasallas on support templar, at all. VE players aren't very experienced in smaller groups and have dedicated fasalla tanks because they have numbers to dedicate solely to that, while smaller groups often have builds that do a bit of everything, heals, tank and dps. Keep on rocking your Fasallas

I don't even play this game anymore, but I know the bolded part isn't true at all. Satiar, Bulbisar, and Teargrants are all very good/experienced running small groups and I'm sure many of the other VE members are as well.

I cant unsee this video someone posted of VE in a 6 or 7 man group dying to like 300 CP people. Who actually moves as a proxy ball at 7 man group size and dies to a handful of people...

They definitely have some good players in there, and then... theres probably some people that cant small group pvp at all really.

In response to people saying they can small man PvP - and related to this build 'working' in small man PvP. Sure, it will work, but in a 4v4 against top tier small man groups youre going to get knocked out with this build. A matter of opinion - one you should be able to respect @Satiar . Youve had the opportunity to fight against me more than Zheg.

Zheg wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

_Chaos wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Poxheart wrote: »

emma666 wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

This set up was an absolute life-saver oh my god. If only more than one of us had farmed it lol. Oh well.

Also did I just see a "put your healers on Fasallas" for real?

What's wrong about fasalla on healers? When I'm on my templar and run e.g. with 2 stam dks and a sorc, almost all half decent players target me first, so imo it makes sense for me to use fasalla.

Nothing wrong with fasallas on support templar, at all. VE players aren't very experienced in smaller groups and have dedicated fasalla tanks because they have numbers to dedicate solely to that, while smaller groups often have builds that do a bit of everything, heals, tank and dps. Keep on rocking your Fasallas

I don't even play this game anymore, but I know the bolded part isn't true at all. Satiar, Bulbisar, and Teargrants are all very good/experienced running small groups and I'm sure many of the other VE members are as well.

I cant unsee this video someone posted of VE in a 6 or 7 man group dying to like 300 CP people. Who actually moves as a proxy ball at 7 man group size and dies to a handful of people...

They definitely have some good players in there, and then... theres probably some people that cant small group pvp at all really.

link me chief

Sorry - forgot the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwl4MIl2A4k

@ataggs youre in there too bro. Sick nasty small scale PvP from this healer. But I guess these 300CP guys are 'more competitive' being on trueflame! Look out for the light attacks hitting wall from recorder.

This coming from a guy that uses malubeth and QQs about healing in the game and everything else lmfao
Only thing i see in that video is 4 dead AD bodies in the cubby followed by 10-15 blues.... At nikel gate...... In TF..... We all know how quickly those 10-15 turn to a zerg. Im not in VE but theyre playing on their AD toons(their 3rd re-roll) and most of them arent even maxed out.

That was definitely a better attempt than Zhegs invisible army from above that would have killed them. At least you pretended they did kill them while not being there, and their group size was actually half of what it really was.

I'm still trying to figure out why this is even being brought up. Some VE members died...

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And?

The relevancy escapes me.

Because he respects the guild so much and large group play so much. He said so, on the internetz, it must be true.

I do respect what VE could accomplish as a ball group. I respect what Khole acheived in running in smaller sized ball groups too.

I also dont like that the game caters to ball group mechanics - but if you want to win, thats your best route to go. Sorry to break your heart with the cold reality Zheg. Youd probably prefer to hear me scream and holler that everything VE does is bad and theres a bunch of no talent players there instead of doing what I do and telling it how it is.

lolo_01b16_ESO · July 2016

Zheg wrote: »

Why is this the best healing build in pvp right now? Two reasons:
With Fasalla's and the cornucopia of heal debuffs, pure heals is no longer optimal in most fights. You still need them, but they don't go as far. Heals + Shields ... that's where it's at. Healing Ward > Breath/HtD in many cases. If you can have a 2nd healer focusing on burst heals while you run combat physician, that's optimal.

Behind door number 2, combat physician applies it's CD per person, not per effect. You put rapid regen on someone, they will get a 5.1k shield (if you commit to 100 in bastion) as soon as they start taking damage and get it again after 6 seconds. One person in this can keep the entire group in free shields (no crit hits, 5.1k is equal to a weak harness magicka) every 6 seconds. Every tick of your purify or healing springs that crits also gives them a shield. Since you can have both rapid regen and mutagen apply to someone, have other people in group re-morph to mutagen so nothing ever overwrites your rapid regen HoT. Whoever is lucky enough to be hit by your 19.5k barrier will also get the HoT from that for 30 seconds.

To get back to topic and stop insulting each other, can anyone confirm this? I tested it today and never got more than one proc each 6 sec even when multiple group members were constantly taking damage and I had multiple hots on them.