Please nerf the Malubeth set

zyk · July 2016

@ZOS_BrianWheeler Please run the numbers to see how common this set is becoming. Whether it's bugged or OP, its rate of use should show you that it needs to be addressed ASAP.

Rohamad_Ali · July 2016

Now its on the vendor so expect more cheese .

KenaPKK · July 2016

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

Now its on the vendor so expect more cheese .

Helms are easy to get via FotM dungeon farms. Coulda been worse. Coulda been the shoulder.

At least we didn't get another Maw of the Infernal piece.

Lokey0024 · July 2016

https://youtu.be/C6gqRDt4U0I

Did a test. Watch the healing when it procs. Flat on their back, 10k heal at least.

CP5 · July 2016

In one pvp fight earlier tonight I was averaging 600 heal ticks from the set (averaging crits and non-crits). So... peoples real problem is this set provides 30% bonus healing tanken, a buff identical to one available from a NB ultimate morph thats rarely used and a potion?

PrinceBoru · July 2016

Leave the MS set alone.

Sharee · July 2016

CP5 wrote: »

In one pvp fight earlier tonight I was averaging 600 heal ticks from the set (averaging crits and non-crits). So... peoples real problem is this set provides 30% bonus healing tanken, a buff identical to one available from a NB ultimate morph thats rarely used and a potion?

It isn't identical, that's one of the problems. Soul siphon gives major vitality buff, which does not stack with any other major vitality buffs. Same with the potion. Malubeth on the other hand does not give major vitality, it gives an uncategorized 30% healing received buff which stacks with everything. So if you have a major vitality buff and malubeth procs, you get that 30% twice.

DHale · July 2016

I just checked my inventory insight nine helms and seven shoulders won't use one on my Templar or any of my other toons. I just wait for the proc to end then kill whoever is wearing it. At some point ppl now qq on the forum that they can't kill ppl in 2 seconds anymore and that they may need to fight for thirty seconds once in a while. Large sigh. I was ganked recently and they could only only get me to 50 percent then I killed him with my magic dk he whispered me malubeth trash. I whispered I am clearly wearing bloodspawn. Can't you see the helmet. He said well you probably have the shoulder... I wrote wth I am not sure you understand how the monsters sets work. His response was I heard they were broken. I said does he heal over 100 percent health, seems like it working as intended... one of the few things working as intended. Now how about more pew pew less qq.

Sharee · July 2016

So, since the helm is on sale now and i finally could get my hands on the set, i took malubeth for a spin:

No comment.

kuro-dono · July 2016

in 4 sec time you get 4x 10k heals. epic.must have been multiple beams?

Sharee · July 2016

kuro-dono wrote: »

in 4 sec time you get 4x 10k heals. epic.must have been multiple beams?

Dunno if it can stack on the same target. I was only fighting one guy.

Lokey0024 · July 2016

Sharee wrote: »

So, since the helm is on sale now and i finally could get my hands on the set, i took malubeth for a spin:

No comment.

Yep. Nuff said

glavius · July 2016

kuro-dono wrote: »

in 4 sec time you get 4x 10k heals. epic.must have been multiple beams?

Since it ticks once per 0,5 second it's actually 40k healed in 2 seconds

CP5 · July 2016

Sharee wrote: »

So, since the helm is on sale now and i finally could get my hands on the set, i took malubeth for a spin:

No comment.

Those 600-1.2k heals are expected, those 10k+ ones I have never been able to get from the set. Were there any other heals you were taking that your addon could have interpenetrated? If not then those 10x stronger heals are clearly a bug.

Sharee · July 2016

CP5 wrote: »

Sharee wrote: »

So, since the helm is on sale now and i finally could get my hands on the set, i took malubeth for a spin:

No comment.

Those 600-1.2k heals are expected, those 10k+ ones I have never been able to get from the set. Were there any other heals you were taking that your addon could have interpenetrated? If not then those 10x stronger heals are clearly a bug.

Yea the set is bugged, i even saw someone post a 22000 heal screenshot about a month ago or so.

It was a 1v1 fight, and since i'm a mDK, i do not have anything that could heal me for 4x10K (unfortunately

)

Rohamad_Ali · July 2016

Sharee wrote: »

CP5 wrote: »

Sharee wrote: »

So, since the helm is on sale now and i finally could get my hands on the set, i took malubeth for a spin:

No comment.

Those 600-1.2k heals are expected, those 10k+ ones I have never been able to get from the set. Were there any other heals you were taking that your addon could have interpenetrated? If not then those 10x stronger heals are clearly a bug.

Yea the set is bugged, i even saw someone post a 22000 heal screenshot about a month ago or so.

It was a 1v1 fight, and since i'm a mDK, i do not have anything that could heal me for 4x10K (unfortunately )

Thank you for your honesty .

rfennell_ESO · July 2016

The funniest thing about this set is how it will proc off siege.

Like lol... really? I'm 100% out of normal range hitting people with cold fire ballista bolts and I see scourge harvest on me in my combat log?

Soooooooo broken.

zyk · July 2016

Nah. The funniest part about this set is all the players who have been denying it's bugged while profiting from it. This community....

Sharee · July 2016

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

The funniest thing about this set is how it will proc off siege.

Like lol... really? I'm 100% out of normal range hitting people with cold fire ballista bolts and I see scourge harvest on me in my combat log?

Soooooooo broken.

Well, technically the tooltip says the beam breaks if out of range, not that it won't proc if out of range. It could proc, do one tick of damage, and immediately break due to being out of range. So that part might actually be WAI.

rfennell_ESO · July 2016

Sharee wrote: »

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

The funniest thing about this set is how it will proc off siege.

Like lol... really? I'm 100% out of normal range hitting people with cold fire ballista bolts and I see scourge harvest on me in my combat log?

Soooooooo broken.

Well, technically the tooltip says the beam breaks if out of range, not that it won't proc if out of range. It could proc, do one tick of damage, and immediately break due to being out of range. So that part might actually be WAI.

Technically haha.

I just thought it was pretty bizarre seeing the scourge harvest tick on me when I'm in the inner keep sieging people from the top of the inner at ground level. Best recollection is that it's probably exactly what you said, a single tick and the beam breaks. Still, that's some stupid right there.

Most_Awesome · July 2016

Equip this set and get your very own Templar pocket healer.........sigh

Brightxdawn · July 2016

It was fine until everyone started actually using it now people want it nerfed. NO

WreckfulAbandon · July 2016

Brightxdawn wrote: »

It was fine until everyone started actually using it now people want it nerfed. NO

Did you not read Sharee's post a few above? It really should be end of discussion after that.

Can't argue with those numbers. Something is off with this set.

KenaPKK · July 2016

Sharee wrote: »

So, since the helm is on sale now and i finally could get my hands on the set, i took malubeth for a spin:

[pitchur!]

No comment.

Yeaaaaaa it looks like someone misplaced the decimal place on the heal calculation by 2 powers of 10. >.< You have major mending on your DK, but you're still dealing ~200 damage with it and getting almost 12k heals.

danno8 · July 2016

Sharee wrote: »

So, since the helm is on sale now and i finally could get my hands on the set, i took malubeth for a spin:

No comment.

This deserves to be re-quoted.

My comments have been made across multiple threads already so I have nothing left to say.

Chuga_Rei · July 2016

There is a reason why entire guilds run this set in cyro lol

I tried it yesterday myself when it came on sale and its the most broken thing I have seen in a while.

If you are banning people for gap closing but not this, you are insane.

DisgracefulMind · July 2016

Aenlir wrote: »

sluice wrote: »

I'm not debating that this set is OP or fair and square...

It is super strong on a templar because of major mending, especially when you have 2+ person on you.
In 1v1, unless you are fighting a DOT build, it's decent at best.

This set won't make you survive agains't 2+ good player at the same time.
But it will definitely help.

People don't seem to realize that when it procs, the beam breaks after 10 meters..

Considering that this set is especially strong on templars and that templars are slow as $h!t....
Just dodge roll away from the templar and voilà.

Otherwise, the said templar will simply puncturing sweep you to death while healing himself ridiculously.

If you guys really want to talk about cheese, let's talk about Templar Sun Shield build. I've seen these some guys surviving with 10-12 people on them.

PS: I am a Malubeth user on my Templar, not hiding it. I have been before everyone started complaining about it and I don't intend to stop using it.

I find it really funny that 90% of the persons that I'm fighting do not attempt to break the beam... just like most people instead of interrupting the Dwarven from Engine Guardian when he's healing just continue to attack their opponent, uh?

I'll repeat one last time... Break the beam, guys... ; )

It's not only OP, it's broken...
Can't defend it.

You know something is OP and broken when everyone in Cyrodiil is using it xD

Sharee · July 2016

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Aenlir wrote: »

sluice wrote: »

I'm not debating that this set is OP or fair and square...

It is super strong on a templar because of major mending, especially when you have 2+ person on you.
In 1v1, unless you are fighting a DOT build, it's decent at best.

This set won't make you survive agains't 2+ good player at the same time.
But it will definitely help.

People don't seem to realize that when it procs, the beam breaks after 10 meters..

Considering that this set is especially strong on templars and that templars are slow as $h!t....
Just dodge roll away from the templar and voilà.

Otherwise, the said templar will simply puncturing sweep you to death while healing himself ridiculously.

If you guys really want to talk about cheese, let's talk about Templar Sun Shield build. I've seen these some guys surviving with 10-12 people on them.

PS: I am a Malubeth user on my Templar, not hiding it. I have been before everyone started complaining about it and I don't intend to stop using it.

I find it really funny that 90% of the persons that I'm fighting do not attempt to break the beam... just like most people instead of interrupting the Dwarven from Engine Guardian when he's healing just continue to attack their opponent, uh?

I'll repeat one last time... Break the beam, guys... ; )

It's not only OP, it's broken...
Can't defend it.

You know something is OP and broken when everyone in Cyrodiil is using it xD

I am kinda glad the helm can be bought now. Means everyone in cyro can have it (the shoulder was already on sale a month ago). The more prominent the issue, the faster it will be fixed.

KenaPKK · July 2016

It's not op, and people shouldn't be banned for using it. The set worked just like its tooltip says for months and months, and not one peep from the community. Heck, I rarely saw anyone else using it aside from myself.

The set is broken since the DB patch. Something in the calculations is clearly not working properly and is resulting in 12k+ heals from the tether, which has never been and should not be the case. It just needs a bug fix. The more you forumtards push for anything else, the more likely ZOS is to nerf the range or duration into oblivion and never fix the bug, leaving the set useless for eternity.

Minalan · July 2016

Sharee wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Aenlir wrote: »

sluice wrote: »

I'm not debating that this set is OP or fair and square...

It is super strong on a templar because of major mending, especially when you have 2+ person on you.
In 1v1, unless you are fighting a DOT build, it's decent at best.

This set won't make you survive agains't 2+ good player at the same time.
But it will definitely help.

People don't seem to realize that when it procs, the beam breaks after 10 meters..

Considering that this set is especially strong on templars and that templars are slow as $h!t....
Just dodge roll away from the templar and voilà.

Otherwise, the said templar will simply puncturing sweep you to death while healing himself ridiculously.

If you guys really want to talk about cheese, let's talk about Templar Sun Shield build. I've seen these some guys surviving with 10-12 people on them.

PS: I am a Malubeth user on my Templar, not hiding it. I have been before everyone started complaining about it and I don't intend to stop using it.

I find it really funny that 90% of the persons that I'm fighting do not attempt to break the beam... just like most people instead of interrupting the Dwarven from Engine Guardian when he's healing just continue to attack their opponent, uh?

I'll repeat one last time... Break the beam, guys... ; )

It's not only OP, it's broken...
Can't defend it.

You know something is OP and broken when everyone in Cyrodiil is using it xD

I am kinda glad the helm can be bought now. Means everyone in cyro can have it (the shoulder was already on sale a month ago). The more prominent the issue, the faster it will be fixed.

Hahahahahaha hahahahaha! *Falls over laughing*. It's been broken for months, the devs won't fix it. At this point they either can't find it (not smart enough) or they just don't care (about PVP that is).

Professionals, like SWTOR and WOW developers fix this kind of thing right away. Days, not weeks or months. @Wrobel is a little kid picking his nose and wetting himself in comparison.

KenaPKK wrote: »

It's not op, and people shouldn't be banned for using it. The set worked just like its tooltip says for months and months, and not one peep from the community. Heck, I rarely saw anyone else using it aside from myself.

The set is broken since the DB patch. Something in the calculations is clearly not working properly and is resulting in 12k+ heals from the tether, which has never been and should not be the case. It just needs a bug fix. The more you forumtards push for anything else, the more likely ZOS is to nerf the range or duration into oblivion and never fix the bug, leaving the set useless for eternity.

My guess? Something in the code is taking the CP count (501) instead of the level (50) as a parameter.

It's a bonehead mistake, but they need to consider reducing the base set effectiveness as well. It's currently 'too good' for Templars under battle spirit.

Why bother to nerf healing 50% and then give most of it right back? Again with ZOS idiocy.