Light Attacking is Broken? (and animation priority)

SanTii.92 · June 2016

Nifty2g wrote: »

Hi @ZOS_JessicaFolsom Was something changed in the Live maintenance that we just had? The animations are a lot cleaner than previous and my attacks are actually hitting now and not getting stuck in animation. Do you have any word if something was changed?

edit: it's not as good as it was, but its pretty decent fix

really? it feels exactly the same as yesterday to me. You are talking about live server right? not pts

Nifty2g · June 2016

sAnn92 wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

Hi @ZOS_JessicaFolsom Was something changed in the Live maintenance that we just had? The animations are a lot cleaner than previous and my attacks are actually hitting now and not getting stuck in animation. Do you have any word if something was changed?

edit: it's not as good as it was, but its pretty decent fix

really? it feels exactly the same as yesterday to me. You are talking about live server right? not pts

Yes, Live. There is a noticeable difference, it's not perfect but I can see a good difference

MickeyBN · June 2016

Nifty2g wrote: »

sAnn92 wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

Hi @ZOS_JessicaFolsom Was something changed in the Live maintenance that we just had? The animations are a lot cleaner than previous and my attacks are actually hitting now and not getting stuck in animation. Do you have any word if something was changed?

edit: it's not as good as it was, but its pretty decent fix

really? it feels exactly the same as yesterday to me. You are talking about live server right? not pts

Yes, Live. There is a noticeable difference, it's not perfect but I can see a good difference

yiasemi · June 2016

Yeehah! Back to DW! ohh..server offline again, fix broke it.

MickeyBN · June 2016

They haven't fixed anything, melee combat is still borked.

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom any update?

Apocalypse1981 · June 2016

Not fixed for me

khele23eb17_ESO · July 2016

Seems to be as it was before. So... any news?

Nifty2g · July 2016

Yeah I tried my night blade, terrible

How is this on pts

MickeyBN · July 2016

Melee attacks missing, plus the animation cancelling feeling horrible since the DB patch is a pretty big issue.

I'm so confused by everyone's silence on the matter, not just ZOS who refuses to give us any updates for a month but also the community, speak up people we need to see this fixed!!!

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Apocalypse1981 · July 2016

Any news???

Cherryblossom · July 2016

Can't believe people actually expect ZOS to ever say anything again! Their whole MO is to ignore any bugs once they work out they have no idea how to fix it.

Apocalypse1981 · July 2016

Bump

Scamandros · July 2016

Nifty2g wrote: »

Hi @ZOS_JessicaFolsom Was something changed in the Live maintenance that we just had? The animations are a lot cleaner than previous and my attacks are actually hitting now and not getting stuck in animation. Do you have any word if something was changed?

edit: it's not as good as it was, but its pretty decent fix

Not sure if I have gotten used to it, or if things did get better, but weaving and cancelling was feeling pretty good. Things still look off, and visually things plays like my actions are desynch'd slightly, but its been manageable.
On the bright side whatever happened has now made weapon swapping reliable and snappy enough in high ping that I am comfortable to use frequent swap rotations

GreenhaloX · July 2016

Nifty2g wrote: »

Anyone else expericing this, sometimes it works fine other times there is a massive delay to your light attacks and they do not go off between skills unless you stop doing what you are for a second. Is there a hidden ICD on light attacks now or light attacks between your abilities? Something feels extremely clunky with combat

Oh yes, this happens for me quite often, especially when trying to do animation cancelling and during higher traffic sequence in world boss fights and dolmen. For the fix, I try as much as I can to press harder on the light attack button. For PS4, it's the right trigger. It takes getting used to switching fingers rapidly. Most of the time, it seems to wok, but I'm worry, one of these days, I may break that trigger during a big fight in the group dungeon or something.

lonewolf26 · July 2016

Nifty2g wrote: »

Yeah I tried my night blade, terrible

How is this on pts

I felt that the issue is worse on the PTS as it happens more frequently for me there. On live it usually happens to me during long spikes above 110 ms. PTS it was happening more often, but I cannot say for certain of latency was a factor there.

@ZOS_GinaBruno could we pretty please get an update on this long standing issue?

jello · July 2016

Is this PC exklusive? Cant find an issue on ps4 besides the horrible lag that doesnt let me cancel animations.

MikeTheeElder · July 2016

I'm definitely having issues with this on XB1 NA. I haven't even really been doing DB at all but experience it all the same. Trying to animation cancel either through light attacks, block casting, or swap canceling eventually leads to what seems like a log jam where nothing goes off for about a half second or more then usually the last animation triggers and things run smooth again. I'm not sure the light attacks are registering at all actually.

Apocalypse1981 · July 2016

So, news??

SanTii.92 · July 2016

Worst thing lately is that some attacks with the inferno staff that just doesn't fire. Those get stucked there, charging.

sparafucilsarwb17_ESO · July 2016

ETA on fix ZOS?

ItsGlaive · July 2016

Cherryblossom wrote: »

Can't believe people actually expect ZOS to ever say anything again! Their whole MO is to ignore any bugs once they work out they have no idea how to fix it.

I'm beginning to agree. Still waiting on an update on the confirmed movement bug and have been since Jessica's last comment in May!

GazettE · July 2016

Welcome back @ZOS_GinaBruno

Can you help us to address this issue? Any update or anything about this issue?

Thank you

khele23eb17_ESO · July 2016

Soon itll become a feature not a bug and ZOS will tell us to l2p.

Apocalypse1981 · July 2016

I can wait for this to be fixed

Mureel · July 2016

I meant to say, yes same here. On my magicka NB, light attacks just don't go off between skills at times.

Oh also just lately I've been feeling like bar swap is suddenly slower...

TheDarkShadow · July 2016

I play with 300+ ping. Weaving already clunky before, now it's just horrible to the point sometime I don't even bother to do it. If you weaving light attack too fast, it would skip the skill and does light attack - light attack, or skip the light attack and does skill - skill. You have to slow it down anyway, so rather do medium weaving.

Flak · July 2016

I can confirm that this is not exclusive to staffs, having the same issues with DW sometimes.
There's definitely a priority system in the game and it was already there before but different.
Light/Heavy Attacks < Skills < Bash < Block/Roll-Dodge/Weapon Swap.
Now I'm unsure where the Block comes in now.
My best guess is that Block visually cancels the SkillAnimation but still runs in the Background locking you from doing anything with the same or lower priority. I don't have issues when I do a Barswap to cancel a skill.

GreenhaloX · July 2016

Haaa! See, I'm not the only one who has the issue with light attacking not working right. Although, it seems to be better last couple days versus the several days following last week's maintenance. It still feels just a little sticky, but seems to be working a lot better. Maybe it's a bug or glitch that just comes and go.

qrichou · July 2016

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Thanks for the videos @Nifty2g. We've sent this over to the Combat and Animations teams to take a look.

Uhm , wait so this is about weaving or also known as animation canceling right?
Which is an uninteded gamemechanic yet its been seen as a "skill" by @wrobel .
This unintended game-mechanic is somehow not working all off the time but will looked after asap?
correct me if i am wrong here .
But well that sounds a bit weird to me.

Apocalypse1981 · July 2016

Still have issues, please fix this. Its been over a month