Light Attacking is Broken? (and animation priority)

NebulaTails

I have that with my wands sometimes, its rather annoying because sometimes I'm like "Am I actually attacking them?" but by then they hit me, so I know it worked.. somehow.

Minute_Waltz

So just to confirm, both light and heavy attacks are broken right? And it only really affects staff users?

Light atk - funnel/pulse, the light attack won't go off.
Heavy atk - funnel/pulse, stuck in heavy animation and the toon whacks with a staff but nothing comes out.

No wonder everyone is rolling stam these days.. Personally I don't even bother with my mag toons anymore apart from weekly.

Wollust

Minute_Waltz wrote: »

So just to confirm, both light and heavy attacks are broken right? And it only really affects staff users?

Light atk - funnel/pulse, the light attack won't go off.
Heavy atk - funnel/pulse, stuck in heavy animation and the toon whacks with a staff but nothing comes out.

No wonder everyone is rolling stam these days.. Personally I don't even bother with my mag toons anymore apart from weekly.

Who said it affects only staff users? It's affecting every weapon type.
You don't need to turn this into a rant about stamina superiority or whatever.

Reverb

The fluid, dynamic combat has always been the absolute best thing about ESO. The one thing that makes me stay through the bugs and lag. I try other games and come back to ESO because the combat was so much better.

It's been wonky for way too long now. It guts me that they ruined the best thing about the game.

caperon

Many times i cant heavy or light atack on my tank. I need to release the button and try again. And sometimes i can't keep heavy atacking keeping my mouse button pushed. I need to release it in between. It used to chain heavy atacks holding the button.

Darius771

global cooldown is all what we need to solve AC issue.

Nifty2g

Darius771 wrote: »

global cooldown is all what we need to solve AC issue.

Reread the topic. This has nothing to do with animation cancelling.

GazettE

ZOS are you not aware or just simply dont care about this issue?
This thread has 10 over pages with 21.4k people viewed and has been up here in the forum since 2 previous major update and yet no update or clarification?

Seriously?

@ZOS_DaryaK @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_GaryA @ZOS_TristanK @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @Wrobel @ZOS_AlanG

Minute_Waltz

Wollust wrote: »

Minute_Waltz wrote: »

So just to confirm, both light and heavy attacks are broken right? And it only really affects staff users?

Light atk - funnel/pulse, the light attack won't go off.
Heavy atk - funnel/pulse, stuck in heavy animation and the toon whacks with a staff but nothing comes out.

No wonder everyone is rolling stam these days.. Personally I don't even bother with my mag toons anymore apart from weekly.

Who said it affects only staff users? It's affecting every weapon type.
You don't need to turn this into a rant about stamina superiority or whatever.

I was asking a question, you don't need to look at everything as rant about stamina.

Also I don't have issue with light weaves on my stam toons.

Apocalypse1981

Wake up and fix this

Garldeen

Apocalypse1981 wrote: »

Wake up and fix this

No chance. It has gone the way of the broken movement speed bug (and the group finder issues)...into the dark void of ignore. They know people will get fed up complaining sooner or later.

Bisenberger96

Everyone should write ZOS privately about this every day until it's fixed. Fill up their inboxes xD

ArgoCye

Darius771 wrote: »

global cooldown is all what we need to solve AC issue.

No ... not at all. All we need ZoS to do is to fix what it has broken. This was a wilful act on its part. It was entirely unnecessary. As someone has already pointed out, the fluidity of the combat system is one of the big reasons why many, including myself, play this game, and now that has been trashed for no good reason. I truly don't get it. With the glaring issues affecting this game, ZoS continues to toy with the trivial and unnecessary. One wonders if there is anyone leading the team over there.

MickeyBN

Well, sub cancelled. I'll check back here occasionally to see if by some miracle ZOS responds to us and acknowledges their *** up...not holding my breath though.

qrichou

Nifty2g wrote: »

Darius771 wrote: »

global cooldown is all what we need to solve AC issue.

Reread the topic. This has nothing to do with animation cancelling.

weaving is ac

probablyafk

So this is my first comment on these forums. I've literally had to go and request an invitation code just so I could sign up to comment on this thread. I really enjoy ESO and, honestly, I've sunk a bunch of money into it. I've been impressed with the micro-content update concept and the stories etc. But I'm becoming really concerned at the level of technical support for straight out bugs.

That these bugs exist is fine in and of itself but it is when the response to these bugs is a shrug of the shoulders that I find myself very frustrated.

There are many passionate people in this thread concerned about this bug, and within these pages there have been two official responses from ZOS. The first claiming to pass on the concerns and the second claiming the bug has been observed and something is being done about it.

That second message was two months ago and there has been no response since.

I can understand why the players above would unsubscribe. I'm almost tempted to do the same out of solidarity.

Apocalypse1981

So....?????

Nifty2g

I have not played my Magicka Nightblade since I have posted this thread, tonight when I tried it out in Maelstrom Arena, this issue is still strongly here with no signs of an ETA. This is honestly very poor combat design, I am getting stuck in animations due to a priority system in place for who knows what reason.

Some players have adapted to this, but I mainly do not play with a staff as much but this issue is so bad that if I were to play a staff as a main character, this probably would make me stop, this isn't enjoyable and comes across very broken

Can we please get an update on this @ZOS_GinaBruno

LeifErickson

Nifty2g wrote: »

I have not played my Magicka Nightblade since I have posted this thread, tonight when I tried it out in Maelstrom Arena, this issue is still strongly here with no signs of an ETA. This is honestly very poor combat design, I am getting stuck in animations due to a priority system in place for who knows what reason.

Some players have adapted to this, but I mainly do not play with a staff as much but this issue is so bad that if I were to play a staff as a main character, this probably would make me stop, this isn't enjoyable and comes across very broken

Can we please get an update on this @ZOS_GinaBruno

Is it only in vMA that you get this? I hated this when it first came out, but got used to it. But when I do vMA it seems like the issue is magnified. This is coming from a DW/bow user in vMA.

Nifty2g

LeifErickson wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

I have not played my Magicka Nightblade since I have posted this thread, tonight when I tried it out in Maelstrom Arena, this issue is still strongly here with no signs of an ETA. This is honestly very poor combat design, I am getting stuck in animations due to a priority system in place for who knows what reason.

Some players have adapted to this, but I mainly do not play with a staff as much but this issue is so bad that if I were to play a staff as a main character, this probably would make me stop, this isn't enjoyable and comes across very broken

Can we please get an update on this @ZOS_GinaBruno

Is it only in vMA that you get this? I hated this when it first came out, but got used to it. But when I do vMA it seems like the issue is magnified. This is coming from a DW/bow user in vMA.

No I get this everywhere, it is very noticeable with staves

daswahnsinn

I don't have any video proof like some of the others, however I noticed this back when DB launched, I think this is when it was changed. Anywho, it never really bothered me since I've be doing a lot of farming and PVE questing, which doesn't required high deeps. I've been playing around with two builds on two different class/races and started seeing my light attacks animate but when I look at my combat logs I don't see light attacks on the list. So from what I can tell by this is my dps is lower than what it should be but sadly it doesn't happen every time, it happens enough I'd say 70% of the time with 2H sword, DW swords, and bow. This is more of feedback and I'll be submitting this once the game comes back online.

One more thing, is the animation and combat teams still working on this? I read that they were but SotH is out and it is still here. I would suggest reverting to pre-DB for a quick fix or perma-fix since it worked back then.

MickeyBN

I wanted to revive this thread since it seems to have gone unnoticed.

I took a break from ESO about 2 months ago purely because of the issue mentioned in this thread. I've come back to check in and upon entering the game and testing melee combat, this issue is still present.

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom
@ZOS_GinaBruno
@ANY moderator!!

Animation cancellation/your combat in general was broken when Dark Brotherhood went live, with no mention of it going forward and nothing in the patch notes, Jessica acknowledged the issue as being unintentional shortly after DB went live and we have heard nothing about it since.

Swept completely under the rug for the past 5 months with the hope the issue will be forgotten. Well I haven't forgotten, I've returned to Tamriel and combat still feels wrong, guys....give us an answer.

SanTii.92

I found out that pressing just once the left click for the light attack weave works fairly reliably with inferno staves, almost never happens to me that the attack just doesn't fire anymore. Can't speak of melee weapons. Still the difference from before is noticeable or I think, almost can't remember how it was.

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