Nightblades Need A Nerf!

Zenetrax · July 2016

Tryxus wrote: »

Zenetrax wrote: »

Casterial wrote: »

I can run 1.2k regen on a stam DK and NEVER run out, while a stamNB I need 2.5k+, and my StamNB can no where near tank as much.

1.2k regen never run out? Must be against bad players who can't punish that low regen.

Nope, it's cuz DKs get resources back when using an Ultimate

Still not enough.

Palidon · July 2016

Geeze another nerf thread. When will it stop.

If you can't deal with the heat in Cyrodiil PvP stay with PvE. It all boils down to learning how to play your character and maximizing their offense and defensive skills. So quit whining and figure out what you are doing wrong.

Elohmrow · July 2016

Palidon wrote: »

Geeze another nerf thread. When will it stop.

If you can't deal with the heat in Cyrodiil PvP stay with PvE. It all boils down to learning how to play your character and maximizing their offense and defensive skills. So quit whining and figure out what you are doing wrong.

Did you know that 89% of stair accidents occur on stairs?

Reapor · July 2016

Once again this is just a

"As a player i consider myself at the highest level of skill and gear, so any class i struggle with is clearly a mechanical problem.

In short everything i struggle with should be nerfed, thank you."

Bromburak · July 2016

mmolegends44 wrote: »

cyrodil is full of nightblades that think they are good you rarely see any other class but nb's 1 shotting people.

It's no rocket science to 1 shot people and it can happen to any class including NB ...

The problem with that is most of these guys cannot do it a second or third time and need to respawn for their next attempt ...
So you actually don't want to nerf them you want to teach them how to survive and why sustain actually is more important in
1 v X than silly one hit wonder bursts.

Lucky28 · July 2016

mmolegends44 wrote: »

@Junkogen dude stop nothing compares to what a nightblade can do even before the update vicious death,proxy det, soul tether that is all you see 1 shotting 15+ they need to fix nb right away hat should be their priority

that only one shots you when you're bunched up with other players. your fault.

that combination will typically not kill you 1v1.

Aisle9 · July 2016

OP, if you have issues with cloak, use detect potions, or slot camo hunter/radiant magelight.

On a possibly related note, radiant magelight also prevents 50% of damage from sneak attacks. That + inpen, and you won't get oneshotted. If you want to run Divines on your armor, you are running the risk to get oneshotted, no nerf will save you.

On another related topic

a) I really don't understand where are you seeing all them nightblades, all I can see is Jezus Beams from every directions. Do NB have access to Jezus Beam now ? I want to use it too, all the pretty colors!

b) "If they fail they get back to stealth" ... lol ... Radiant magelight says:
Summon a mote of magelight, revealing stealthed and invisible enemies around you for 5 seconds. Exposed enemies cannot return to stealth or invisibility for 3 seconds.

While slotted, you gain Major Prophecy, increasing your Spell Critical rating by 2191. You also prevent the stun and reduce the damage from stealth attacks by 50% for you and nearby allies.

You don't have access to Radiant Magelight ? Here's Camo Hunter's description from the Fighter Guild's tree :
Invoke your expertise in anatomy and enemy behavior to detect stealthed and invisible enemies around you for 5 seconds.

Exposed enemies cannot return to stealth or invisibility for 3 seconds.

While slotted gain Major Savagery, increasing your Weapon Critical rating by 2191. Critical hits from crouch grant Minor Berserk, increasing attack damage by 8% for 8 seconds.

If you don't have access to radiant magelight or camo hunter (man... come on), just use potions of detection, which also prevents NBs to cloak back into stealth.

Homemade Nerf Kit, that will help you from all them nasty NB gankers, guaranteed!

You're welcome.

DDuke · July 2016

How about fixing & making them atleast playable first?

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/273634/bugs-shadowy-disguise

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/275283/the-unofficial-cloak-thread

PURPLE245 · July 2016

NERF BLOOD ALTER TOOOOOO OP!!!!!!!!

Aeaeren · July 2016

mmolegends44 wrote: »

@Casterial like you said DK ult you got to use a ultimate to 1 shot nightblades only push 2 moves nothing compares to them

We are still using an Ultimate, ya it's a cheap one but it's still an Ulitmate.

Aldruin · July 2016

Inb4 moderator closes thread because OP is nonconstructive crybaby insulting everyone that doesn't share the same opinion

mmolegends44 · July 2016

at the end of the day im paying to enjoy the game PvE and PvP not for a cheese that everyone is balance the classes out make a equal numbers of people out in cyrodil there are more daggerfall players then anything.

kadar · July 2016

Casterial wrote: »

mmolegends44 wrote: »

the funny part most people that have a nb toon always say they do not need a nerf last I check that class is the only one 1 shotting people playing hide and go seek and coming out ready to play lol like really stop.

I can 1shot people with my DK ult, I can nearly 1shot people with Temp Jabs.

The issue with NB is Incap is 50 ult cost and does 12-15k damage. That is the only real issue I have with them outside of fear.

lolno. I'm wearing 7 medium, 5 impen with ~30 points in resistant and the largest incap crit I've ever taken is ~8k. And it was from Ephitacy (sp?). Typical is lower than that. You're either lying about your numbers or you're not wearing any impen.

jello · July 2016

Casterial wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Not really nerfed but (and this applies to every class) need real balancing from a dev team that actually play the game....

Just my 2 cents though.

Agreed, at the moment they are balancing based off PVE feedback and not PVP feedback.

They are balancing crownstore, thats all.

Stravokov · July 2016

Everyone cries nerf when they get killed by the stealth class. It is working as intended OP, you just need to learn to counter it.

Stealth will always have the element of surprise attack in PvP. You can't nerf that, but you can counter it

mmolegends44 · July 2016

@Stravokov dude when it comes to money they will fix it they do not want to lose customers they will balance it out

mmolegends44 · July 2016

@jello no they will balance the crownstore once the race change comes out

Danksta · July 2016

Junkogen wrote: »

Casterial wrote: »

mmolegends44 wrote: »

the funny part most people that have a nb toon always say they do not need a nerf last I check that class is the only one 1 shotting people playing hide and go seek and coming out ready to play lol like really stop.

I can 1shot people with my DK ult, I can nearly 1shot people with Temp Jabs.

The issue with NB is Incap is 50 ult cost and does 12-15k damage. That is the only real issue I have with them outside of fear.

You have a problem with the damage of the NB ultimate, but not the fact that you can 1 shot people with Templar jabs?

Makes sense.

Your build has serious issues if you're getting one shot by Jabs.

Molag_Crow · July 2016

Hallothiel · July 2016

No please dont nerf my nightblade. They are not the most powerful class. (Play them all)

And as @Aisle9 listed there are many many ways to catch them out. Chose one & see if it works for ya; if not, try another!

Danksta · July 2016

mechsauc3 wrote: »

whats the usualy stam nb combo? or is it just spamming surprise attack > incap

For me, Snipe, Ambush, Fear, Surprise Attack, Killer's Blade. If they have a weak build like the OP I don't even get to execute.... or maybe even fear. But I imagine those people aren't keeping defensive buffs up and wear no impen.

alexkdd99 · July 2016

Casterial wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Not really nerfed but (and this applies to every class) need real balancing from a dev team that actually play the game....

Just my 2 cents though.

Agreed, at the moment they are balancing based off PVE feedback and not PVP feedback.

So sorc shields were nerfed because pve players wanted them to be?

CerseiL · July 2016

WHy always asking for nerfs?I would rather ZOS do something like we had in FF14. Pve skills change their duration or effect slightly less in pvp, Why do we have to suffer for it in PVE? why can not they actually do this system

Nefas · July 2016

Casterial wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Not really nerfed but (and this applies to every class) need real balancing from a dev team that actually play the game....

Just my 2 cents though.

Agreed, at the moment they are balancing based off PVE feedback and not PVP feedback.

Lol what.

Tryxus · July 2016

Said it before and I'll say it again:

1. Balance the classes based on PvE
2. Use the Battle Spirit from Cyrodiil to balance them temp for PvP

Ch4mpTW · July 2016

I have 2 Nightblades. A magicka version and a stamina version, and they both blow my other classes out of the water. Keep in mind that I have a magicka and stamina version of each class when I say this.

I mean, my magicka Nightblade is the only class I can get flawless conqueror with repeatedly with in VMA. And that is with little to no effort. If I want to go to PVP and farm AP? I just hop on 1 of my Nightblades, and I gain tons within an hour. It's literally the "easy mode" class. In fact, I see people both here on the forums and in-game telling newcomers to make a Nightblade, if they're interested in getting into the game. Or completing something like VMA. That's honestly sad. It really is.

I really wish people would stop trying to downplay the class, just because they don't want their class being "rebalanced" or "tweaked". It's getting pathetic now.

And by the way, it doesn't help that ZOS is making content after content that caters to Nightblades. Imperial City, Thieves Guild, and Dark Brotherhood all support an assassin/stealthy play-style. And guess which class is based on stealth? Nightblades. It's so annoying. There's 3 other classes to pick from, ZOS. 3. Not everything has to lean towards Nightblades excelling at everything over everyone. Okay? @ZOS_MattFiror @Wrobel @ZOS_RichLambert

Serenityx · July 2016

Before you complain about being one shotted make SURE to check your death recap for multiple character names. Ive been obliterated in less than 2 seconds and often its a 2-3 man team two will snipe while only gap closes and ultis.

Hamfast · July 2016

mmolegends44 wrote: »

@Hamfast yeah clearly i have no clue what you are talking about all I see is leg this leg that come back and make some sense.

reading what I said should give you a clue, if you are getting "Half the XP, Gold and Loot" then how would the game handle the half the loot... while we all should know that it would be a less items, I thought it would be funny if the "Half the Loot" resulted in only half the item itself.

As for not making sense to you, sorry about that, but it may be beyond my ability to do so.

magictucktuck · July 2016

Your not one of the tomatoes I killed in the sewers this morning are you? Just kidding but really any good player can react fast to the initial burst and put me on defense. That does not mean every good player does not get ganked but if your having this much of an issue you probably need to practice.

idk · July 2016

Casterial wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Not really nerfed but (and this applies to every class) need real balancing from a dev team that actually play the game....

Just my 2 cents though.

Agreed, at the moment they are balancing based off PVE feedback and not PVP feedback.

Not an accurate statement. Some would even say the opposite is true.