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Mayrael · June 2016

Valera Progib wrote: »

With all the bonuses to penetration - is it really worth it to stack resistance? Better invest CP in spell/psychical damage reduction and stack HP, probably more win than resistance.

For example, my Sorc runs at 11k resistance and even if I buff it to 20k with current penetration bonuses it is still the same as naked

P.S. Yesterday nightblade Critical Charged me from keep wall and by the time he reached me, I was dead. Recap showed like 6 attacks. I think things like this just happen randomly.

Well I feel big difference while runing heavy armored but I think its synergy between templar healing ability and resistances makes it so viable for me. I dont want to invest to much in HP as my second bar is DD bar and combined with buffs, cp and sharpened on staff it can be quite dangerous as my spell dmg fully buffed reach about 3,1k, combined with 31k magica, 25k hp after adjustments, 1,5 mag regen, 1k stam regen and high resistances makes this toon very fun to play as you can go defenisve or offensive deppending on situation

Oh and that 6 hits came from the same guy? Maybe its casued by some sort of lag, as sometimes i see folks just standing arround and being hit. What if attacker see us just standing and then boom lag is off we get all the damage...

Sharee · June 2016

Valera Progib wrote: »

With all the bonuses to penetration - is it really worth it to stack resistance? Better invest CP in spell/psychical damage reduction and stack HP, probably more win than resistance.

For example, my Sorc runs at 11k resistance and even if I buff it to 20k with current penetration bonuses it is still the same as naked

Penetration does not make resistance useless. Resistance counters penetration.

Sure, if you have +10K resistance and the enemy has 10K penetration, then it may seem like your resistance does nothing, but if you didn't have that extra 10K resistance, the 10K penetration would still be there, and still debuffing your defenses even lower.

It's like saying major ward buff is useless because if someone uses major fracture debuff it effectively removes the buff. Well yea - but without that major ward to counter the fracture, you would be taking even more damage after the debuff.

GrigorijMalahevich · June 2016

Sharee wrote: »

Valera Progib wrote: »

With all the bonuses to penetration - is it really worth it to stack resistance? Better invest CP in spell/psychical damage reduction and stack HP, probably more win than resistance.

For example, my Sorc runs at 11k resistance and even if I buff it to 20k with current penetration bonuses it is still the same as naked

Penetration does not make resistance useless. Resistance counters penetration.

Sure, if you have +10K resistance and the enemy has 10K penetration, then it may seem like your resistance does nothing, but if you didn't have that extra 10K resistance, the 10K penetration would still be there, and still debuffing your defenses even lower.

It's like saying major ward buff is useless because if someone uses major fracture debuff it effectively removes the buff. Well yea - but without that major ward to counter the fracture, you would be taking even more damage after the debuff.

Are you sure about that? It was my understanding that penetration against 0 resistance does nothing.

Mayrael · June 2016

Valera Progib wrote: »

Sharee wrote: »

Valera Progib wrote: »

With all the bonuses to penetration - is it really worth it to stack resistance? Better invest CP in spell/psychical damage reduction and stack HP, probably more win than resistance.

For example, my Sorc runs at 11k resistance and even if I buff it to 20k with current penetration bonuses it is still the same as naked

Penetration does not make resistance useless. Resistance counters penetration.

Sure, if you have +10K resistance and the enemy has 10K penetration, then it may seem like your resistance does nothing, but if you didn't have that extra 10K resistance, the 10K penetration would still be there, and still debuffing your defenses even lower.

It's like saying major ward buff is useless because if someone uses major fracture debuff it effectively removes the buff. Well yea - but without that major ward to counter the fracture, you would be taking even more damage after the debuff.

Are you sure about that? It was my understanding that penetration against 0 resistance does nothing.

Penetration counters armor and spell resistances but not the resistances that are not conected with armor. These are unafected by it, oposite of them are buffs increasing your damage like berserk.

Sharee · June 2016

Valera Progib wrote: »

Sharee wrote: »

Valera Progib wrote: »

With all the bonuses to penetration - is it really worth it to stack resistance? Better invest CP in spell/psychical damage reduction and stack HP, probably more win than resistance.

For example, my Sorc runs at 11k resistance and even if I buff it to 20k with current penetration bonuses it is still the same as naked

Penetration does not make resistance useless. Resistance counters penetration.

Sure, if you have +10K resistance and the enemy has 10K penetration, then it may seem like your resistance does nothing, but if you didn't have that extra 10K resistance, the 10K penetration would still be there, and still debuffing your defenses even lower.

It's like saying major ward buff is useless because if someone uses major fracture debuff it effectively removes the buff. Well yea - but without that major ward to counter the fracture, you would be taking even more damage after the debuff.

Are you sure about that? It was my understanding that penetration against 0 resistance does nothing.

Yea, but you should not have 0 resistance. Penetration can be buffed, but so can be resistance.

For every way to increase penetration, there is a way to increase resistance. Sharpened can be countered with defending, CP penetration can be countered by CP resistance, breach debuff can be countered with ward buff, etc. You should not have zero resistance unless your opponent goes all out penetration, and you ignore all the ways you have to counter it.

GrigorijMalahevich · June 2016

Sharee wrote: »

Valera Progib wrote: »

Sharee wrote: »

Valera Progib wrote: »

With all the bonuses to penetration - is it really worth it to stack resistance? Better invest CP in spell/psychical damage reduction and stack HP, probably more win than resistance.

For example, my Sorc runs at 11k resistance and even if I buff it to 20k with current penetration bonuses it is still the same as naked

Penetration does not make resistance useless. Resistance counters penetration.

Sure, if you have +10K resistance and the enemy has 10K penetration, then it may seem like your resistance does nothing, but if you didn't have that extra 10K resistance, the 10K penetration would still be there, and still debuffing your defenses even lower.

It's like saying major ward buff is useless because if someone uses major fracture debuff it effectively removes the buff. Well yea - but without that major ward to counter the fracture, you would be taking even more damage after the debuff.

Are you sure about that? It was my understanding that penetration against 0 resistance does nothing.

Yea, but you should not have 0 resistance. Penetration can be buffed, but so can be resistance.

For every way to increase penetration, there is a way to increase resistance. Sharpened can be countered with defending, CP penetration can be countered by CP resistance, breach debuff can be countered with ward buff, etc. You should not have zero resistance unless your opponent goes all out penetration, and you ignore all the ways you have to counter it.

I was just referring to the idea - if you are running 5LA 1HA 1MA then your resistance is low and when opposing opponents that have higher penetration than your resistance, you are much better of investing in defensive skills/damage reduction/health increase, not trying to raise your resistance.

Like instead of casting thundering presence which still will be inferior to opponents penetration - I am better of using damage mitigation skill or something... That is all I wanted to say

Sharee · June 2016

Valera Progib wrote: »

Like instead of casting thundering presence which still will be inferior to opponents penetration - I am better of using damage mitigation skill or something... That is all I wanted to say

Thundering presence resistance buff is not inferior, it has the same value as the major breach debuff the enemy will hit you with.

Remember the enemy penetration does not come out of thin air. He has to use buffs for himself, and debuffs on you. If you refuse to use resistance buffs to counter this with the reasoning that they are useless, you are making his job all that easier.