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Light Attacking is Broken? (and animation priority)

  • akredon_ESO
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    yeah i been experiencing this really badly with Jabs as of late
  • Pomaikai
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    Want to know an easy test to see if light attacks are weaving correctly with jabs? Equip poisons in PVP. I can vouch that it's broken. I think I used about 20 poisons in a week of heavy PVP. That screams broken louder than anything else I can think of.
  • MickeyBN
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    Another patch, another let down.

    Melee combat is still broken. @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
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  • Wreuntzylla
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    I am not seeing this. My friend, who macros, is completely fatootsed by this.
  • Apocalypse1981
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    Updates????
  • Palidon
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    Many of my light and heavy attacks with an ax or Battle Ax completely miss the target and I am standing right in front of it. Just swinging at air.
    Edited by Palidon on June 21, 2016 8:15AM
  • khele23eb17_ESO
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    Any news?
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  • Nifty2g
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    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom Would there happen to be any changes for the upcoming Update 11?
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  • SlayerTheDragon
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    From South Africa we get 220 -280 ping. But this has never been an issue (although it sucks).

    For about a week now it seems as if, block doesn't just cancel the animation, it cancels the ability as well.
    I also have heavy attacks locking (they don't fire when I execute another skill as they always did).
    Ultimate's don't fire directly (possibly an anti hacking function?).

    In short WTF is going on?
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  • Alcast
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    Light Attacking is not the only issue.

    Sometimes I spam Steeltornado and literally NOTHING happens, then all of the sudden 3 go off at the same time. Same thing with Puncturing Sweeps/ Biting Jabs.
    Edited by Alcast on June 22, 2016 9:12AM
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  • Lore_lai
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    From South Africa we get 220 -280 ping. But this has never been an issue (although it sucks).

    For about a week now it seems as if, block doesn't just cancel the animation, it cancels the ability as well.
    I also have heavy attacks locking (they don't fire when I execute another skill as they always did).
    Ultimate's don't fire directly (possibly an anti hacking function?).

    In short WTF is going on?
    Yes, block-cancelling is definitely off, but I have felt it was that way ever since TG patch TBH.
    Block-cancel your spectral bow too fast and you even see your character raising her hand to fire the bow (for like a split second), bow special-ability is spent but bow doesn't fire (no damage).
    Same for block cancelling Ultimates too fast (like Dawnbreaker) - heck after DB, I could even see the particle effect for Dawnbreaker fire at times but no ulti spent and no DB firing. <--- very bad

    Also - light-attack weaving with poisons equipped messes up the weave priority (skill will NOT override light attack) if the poison procs. You have to wait for the stupid particle effect form the poison to animate before the skill goes off.

    Overall very, very clunky combat.
    Haven't tested all of these on EU server (where I have decent ping) but I would not be surprised if they are all broken like this, because I know staff weaving feels clunky. Not as clunky as in high ping but still bad (in comparison to how it was before).
  • Nifty2g
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    New fantastic bug I am seeing is being stuck in animation. Great fun, whats up with combat, why was there even a change?
    #MOREORBS
  • Lore_lai
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    New fantastic bug I am seeing is being stuck in animation. Great fun, whats up with combat, why was there even a change?
    Because I imagine people QQ-ing about dirty animation-cancelers and "macros" (!!) even though so many of them have no idea what they are talking about.
  • Cherryblossom
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    I'm not just seeing the light attacks not happen and a graphical horror show, I'm also seeing when they do happen they fail to connect!

    it would be nice for this to be fixed.
  • Rex-Umbra
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    Not working for me either. I get a light attack animation but no damage.
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  • Nifty2g
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    Lore_lai wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    New fantastic bug I am seeing is being stuck in animation. Great fun, whats up with combat, why was there even a change?
    Because I imagine people QQ-ing about dirty animation-cancelers and "macros" (!!) even though so many of them have no idea what they are talking about.
    Yeah try getting a complex macro to go off in this game lol
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  • yiasemi
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    New fantastic bug I am seeing is being stuck in animation. Great fun, whats up with combat, why was there even a change?

    Yes, I am continuously getting stuck in animations now. I have to run around like a headless chicken until it cancels. Quite good fun at first, but... Getting worse.
  • Iyas
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    Any news?
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  • akredon_ESO
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    Really hope we get an update soon on this because i feel its making the game little bit more annoying than it needs to be :neutral:
  • Garlic
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    It's been over two weeks now since we last heard anything about this... could we get an update? Even better, could we get a fix? Thanks...
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  • Apocalypse1981
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    Please do something about this already
  • lonewolf26
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    I too would like to see an update on this.
  • JinMori
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    I also noticed a slight delay with the animation, expecially when using dual wield.
  • Apocalypse1981
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    Please update
  • peniku8
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    From South Africa we get 220 -280 ping. But this has never been an issue (although it sucks).

    For about a week now it seems as if, block doesn't just cancel the animation, it cancels the ability as well.
    I also have heavy attacks locking (they don't fire when I execute another skill as they always did).
    Ultimate's don't fire directly (possibly an anti hacking function?).

    In short WTF is going on?

    I have exactly the same problem with my 150ping, after casting a few dots (which I all cancel usually), fire blockade is almost impossible to cast. If you cancel it like usual, the entire skill just gets replaced by a short block. You have to wait until the animation starts (thats about 0,5s after the last skill and a huge dps loss).
    Also heavy attacks often charge to full and fire off then, this is very ugly in msa since you can't cast another skill then and you get killed often.
    Oh and I've already casted an Ulti, seeing the ulti counter go to 0, swapping bars and the ulti vanishing, being back up again
    I pay 2500crowns for a dlc but I'd gladly pay 5k for a fix on this... It's really making a decent rotation impossible and it takes away alot of fun when you're constantly struggeling no to mess up your rotation
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  • khele23eb17_ESO
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    So...?
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  • Apocalypse1981
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    Do not let this die
  • khele23eb17_ESO
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    Do not let this die

    Its such a noticable downgrade to the responsiveness and flow of combat I dont get why people arent more up in arms about it. I suspect its because so many stam users went from LA + instant attack (class skill) weaving to HA + channeled attack (rapid strikes) weaving where the issue doesnt come up.
    Edited by khele23eb17_ESO on June 26, 2016 9:14AM
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  • Draxys
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    Could've sworn this was also an issue last patch, but either way, I've been playing destro NB lately and light attack weaving has been extremely sluggish. Half of them don't actually happen. Kind of a gameplay breaking thing when they have a system in which ultimates rely on the buff you get from light attacking.
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  • Nifty2g
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    Hi @ZOS_JessicaFolsom Was something changed in the Live maintenance that we just had? The animations are a lot cleaner than previous and my attacks are actually hitting now and not getting stuck in animation. Do you have any word if something was changed?

    edit: it's not as good as it was, but its pretty decent fix
    Edited by Nifty2g on June 28, 2016 4:27AM
    #MOREORBS
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