Welcome to the new "meta"

Kas · June 2016

negate is incredible. that said, it's about time the visual is reliable. so often the visual will follow a player. usually the cast, sometimes a target. really makes fights a mess

Astanphaeus wrote: »

I don't have a fundamental problem with the correctly working negates, it's these moving negates that are really annoying me where the user seems to put it directly on top of themself and it follows their movement..

in my tests, it was only the visual part. thus the riginal negate is fully invisible and there's somethien else to fool everyone...

Kelces · June 2016

Right... And "nova" is also too powerful then, I guess.

It always depends on where you are standing:

Makkir wrote: »

stop zergin

Nuff said.

WillhelmBlack · June 2016

Sanct16 wrote: »

Anyone claiming Negate isn't completly OP is fooling himself. With the current effect that it has I'd still use it if it would cost 500 Ultimate as its pretty much an "I win"-button in group pvp.

For your style of play, yes. Not for me, I just walk out of it. Completely free to do what I want.

Love Negate atm.

Rylana · June 2016

Yo dawg, I heard you like negate

So I put a negate on your negate so you can negate while you negate

Soulac · June 2016

Most times I'm not even able to see friendly nor enemy negates, so.. *** it.

JDar · June 2016

Zheg wrote: »

The radius of effect of negate seems to be larger than the visual, the visual is many times ... invisible, and the bug where the visual of a negate would follow the caster almost seems to have the actual effect follow them. When I dodge 2-3 times and am still negated, it's possible many negates are down and exceptionally placed, but it does make me wonder if something isn't quite kosher with how they're performing.

There is a very good reason why you in particular are having a problem with multiple negates being cast in your vicinity but that is not because there is sonething wrong with the game.

The rest of us just get out of the way because negating one of us is not efficient.

JDar · June 2016

Sanct16 wrote: »

Anyone claiming Negate isn't completly OP is fooling himself. With the current effect that it has I'd still use it if it would cost 500 Ultimate as its pretty much an "I win"-button in group pvp.

Nope. I laugh when people negate me. All you have to to do is get out of the way.

JDar · June 2016

Satiar wrote: »

Psilent wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Negates are fine, nothing to see here...

Absolutely adored your Suppression Fields last night.

Those were fun fights. If it makes you feel better, I got triple negated and wiped out about 10 minutes after that

*I* got negated? Why would any body triple negate one person?

Oh, right, that's why. Because *I* means a group of 24. I guess a game mechanic that is effective against 24 people stacked up who steamroll everything is a little unreasonable

Satiar · June 2016

JDar wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

Psilent wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Negates are fine, nothing to see here...

Absolutely adored your Suppression Fields last night.

Those were fun fights. If it makes you feel better, I got triple negated and wiped out about 10 minutes after that

*I* got negated? Why would any body triple negate one person?

Oh, right, that's why. Because *I* means a group of 24. I guess a game mechanic that is effective against 24 people stacked up who steamroll everything is a little unreasonable

I wasn't complaining. Chill. And then go buy a game that isn't AvAvA... You know, a game built around soloing? You might enjoy it more, this whole group thing seems to be messing with ya.

Scamandros · June 2016

This one time a npc dumped his negate on just me. lol fotm noob

NativeJoe · June 2016

Zheg wrote: »

The radius of effect of negate seems to be larger than the visual, the visual is many times ... invisible, and the bug where the visual of a negate would follow the caster almost seems to have the actual effect follow them. When I dodge 2-3 times and am still negated, it's possible many negates are down and exceptionally placed, but it does make me wonder if something isn't quite kosher with how they're performing.

I honestly thought they where supposed to follow you. or a morph did... They don't? and here I was thinking that we had something of minor usefulness x.x

Draxys · June 2016

Ashnunn wrote: »

placing negates like stepping stones

what is this, 1.5?

Zheg · June 2016

JDar wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

Psilent wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Negates are fine, nothing to see here...

Absolutely adored your Suppression Fields last night.

Those were fun fights. If it makes you feel better, I got triple negated and wiped out about 10 minutes after that

*I* got negated? Why would any body triple negate one person?

Oh, right, that's why. Because *I* means a group of 24. I guess a game mechanic that is effective against 24 people stacked up who steamroll everything is a little unreasonable

This coming from the guy that was rage whispering me last night for daring to take a group of 5 to contest Roebeck while blue had all of our home keeps except Alessia. Somehow my 5 magically turned into 30, even though no other yellow made the run. Yeah, please do continue sharing your wisdom, but maybe you should go watch some sesame street and learn how to count first - you had enough fingers on one hand to get our group size right last night so please do try harder, even though it's taxing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIniljT5lJI

Ghostbane · June 2016

Every class deserves a useful group ulti.

Attros, you've had your day..

Minno · June 2016

Scamandros wrote: »

This one time a npc dumped his negate on just me. lol fotm noob

That version you can still break free from, btw.
Unless I had a cc on me at the time and it let me break free anyway. Which the latter is still useful information.

Rhandee235 · June 2016

Zheg wrote: »

You all think this will be a negate meta ... Amateurs. Put your Templars on remembrance, have all dps slot gap closers, and giggle as an entire raid is teleported into the sky 50m away. Fall damage is back yo, but instead of it beng a meteor falling from the sky, it's you xD

This has been annoying as hell. Most of the time you are catapulted somewhere nearby, and can get back into the fight. We have had folks catapulted across the map, sometimes to multiple destinations before stopping. Last night, I was launched down, treated to a free fall with a view of Cyrodil above me, landing in Wrothgar. It only seems to occur occasionally when engaging a certain AD group that really doesn't need the help.

_Chaos · June 2016

Rhandee235 wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

You all think this will be a negate meta ... Amateurs. Put your Templars on remembrance, have all dps slot gap closers, and giggle as an entire raid is teleported into the sky 50m away. Fall damage is back yo, but instead of it beng a meteor falling from the sky, it's you xD

This has been annoying as hell. Most of the time you are catapulted somewhere nearby, and can get back into the fight. We have had folks catapulted across the map, sometimes to multiple destinations before stopping. Last night, I was launched down, treated to a free fall with a view of Cyrodil above me, landing in Wrothgar. It only seems to occur occasionally when engaging a certain AD group that really doesn't need the help.

They hotfixed it yesterday, are you sure? I haven't been on to test.
Patch Notes

DKsUnite · June 2016

ToRelax wrote: »

Well Standard is very powerful, but Negate even more so. It's not as if magicka DKs were OP in any way atm, so I don't see why Standard cost shouldn't be reduced again.

because mDK pve is already like the top...

Rhandee235 · June 2016

You know, my trip below the world might have been night before last. Excellent news about the hot fix.

ToRelax · June 2016

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DKsUnite wrote: »

ToRelax wrote: »

Well Standard is very powerful, but Negate even more so. It's not as if magicka DKs were OP in any way atm, so I don't see why Standard cost shouldn't be reduced again.

because mDK pve is already like the top...

Of course, my bad. Well, still got Shifting Standard on 200 if I'm not mistaken.

Kilandros · June 2016

TBH the big issue with Negate right now is that they hardly ever render

Ghost-Shot · June 2016

Sanct16 wrote: »

Anyone claiming Negate isn't completly OP is fooling himself. With the current effect that it has I'd still use it if it would cost 500 Ultimate as its pretty much an "I win"-button in group pvp.

I feel its not quite strong enough, it should probably give me and my group all out resources back again...

Ghost-Shot · June 2016

JDar wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

Psilent wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Negates are fine, nothing to see here...

Absolutely adored your Suppression Fields last night.

Those were fun fights. If it makes you feel better, I got triple negated and wiped out about 10 minutes after that

*I* got negated? Why would any body triple negate one person?

Oh, right, that's why. Because *I* means a group of 24. I guess a game mechanic that is effective against 24 people stacked up who steamroll everything is a little unreasonable

I don't know who you are, I assume we kill you a lot, sorry about that.

Lokey0024 · June 2016

Negate bombard and siege a breech. Sounds horrible lol

The_Great_Maldini · June 2016

Typhoios wrote: »

Let the Sorcs play with a useful class ultimate again. It had to be quite boring with only overload for a while.

TBH the only real usefulness to Overload is the 3rd skill bar. Occasionally I can be useful as a spam light attack.

Ghost-Shot · June 2016

The_Great_Maldini wrote: »

Typhoios wrote: »

Let the Sorcs play with a useful class ultimate again. It had to be quite boring with only overload for a while.

TBH the only real usefulness to Overload is the 3rd skill bar. Occasionally I can be useful as a spam light attack.

It was nice in 1.6 when it could 1 shot people, other than that its kinda meh.