What Is With Rubedo?

Korah_Eaglecry · June 2016

One of the most annoying things right now for me is farming Rubedo. I can farm Ruby Ash, Rubedite and Ancient Silk all fine. I can spend 2 hours out in the wild collecting those three and come back with a stack of 200 unrefined Rubedite Ore, Ancient Silk and Ruby Ash. I do my best to farm when the population is typically low so to avoid the frustration of not finding any nodes or animals to kill.

Now with the other three materials its almost always guaranteed to be atleast 3 unrefined items in the node waiting for me. Sometimes Ill get lucky and get 5 or 6 and on rare occasions 7. But with Rubedo its the complete opposite. For all the effort to get to Rubedo, the killing and killing and killing of everything that possibly drops it. There are times where I will kill upwards to 5-7 creatures and get nothing. And almost always when I do get something its a single scrap. I can kill a pride of lions and can look forward to either nothing or a single scrap. All that effort and at the end, I feel like I wasted my time.

Now I get that not every creature dropping leather scraps is going to drop scraps. Compared to the other nodes, leather would be far too abundant if it worked that way. But Im just astounded at how much effort you need to put into just obtaining enough Rubedo to make a single set of medium armor compared to everything else. It took me two days of 4 hour farming sessions to get enough Rubedite for my DK. Ive got maybe another 4 hour session ahead of me for weapons for him and my NB. But Im about 12 hours in on my Clothier and have yet to break even on the 940 Refined Rubedo Leather I need for my NB.

Seriously considering switching this Stamina NB over to Light Armor at this point. I can not see myself going out and doing this again for Leather if a new set comes out.

dtm_samuraib16_ESO · June 2016

Folks tell me, when addressing similar, it's RNG.
I need to pray to some deity to have more luck in that regard.
Someone mentioned doing a rain dance, turn three times and wave both arms... that too did not work...

LadyLethalla · June 2016

If you have Orsinium go farm Cold Perch Cavern. I spent probably 2 hours in there the other night and got a stack of 200. I'd have gotten more but my inventory was full. Probably Rkindaleft is a good spot too - I think from memory there are flocks of bats? I'm going to try there next.

ArtOfShred · June 2016

Easiest way to get rubedo leather, jump in Old Orsinium, load your aoe bars up, get a speed buff if you have one and run loops killing all the animals around the first section of the dungeon. Nothing remotely comparable that I've found. There's some spider pulls mixed in too but those are rather worthwhile now too with eggs dropping.

TrueNord47 · June 2016

wayrest sewers

FriedEggSandwich · June 2016

+1 for Old Orsinium

Korah_Eaglecry · June 2016

ArtOfShred wrote: »

Easiest way to get rubedo leather, jump in Old Orsinium, load your aoe bars up, get a speed buff if you have one and run loops killing all the animals around the first section of the dungeon. Nothing remotely comparable that I've found. There's some spider pulls mixed in too but those are rather worthwhile now too with eggs dropping.

Thanks Ill give that a try. Ive been running circles in Hews Bane and wanting to bang my head on my desk trying to put a dent in this laundry list of VR16 gear Ill need in another week.

Kendaric · June 2016

They should have made it so that larger critters, such bears.dire wolves & lions, always drop at least one piece of scrap.

SirAndy · June 2016

One word: Skeevers

You're welcome ...

acw37162 · June 2016

Wrothgar

Old Orsinium
Cold Perch Cavern (mentioned above already)
The Durzog cave

If you do the Wrothgar solo dailies and every time cold perch and durzog come up snake a few extra laps killing mobs you will have a few stacks in no time.

Old Orsinium is best but it's always populated and farmed.

Rev Rielle · June 2016

TrueNord47 wrote: »

wayrest sewers

Very true. There are some great dungeons for leather gathering.

OP, I'd suggest to get a couple of friends and head down to Wayrest Sewers (don't miss any rooms). If everyone pools their Rubedo for you, it would a) be relatively time efficient, and b) give you quite a lot. Not to mention all the other side bonuses of completing a dungeon (gold, exp, etc.).

daswahnsinn · June 2016

I get mine from killing mud crabs, I run around the water sides in Orsinium just killing crabs. I use buffed bombard and it takes around 3-4 seconds, if grouped in threes. It takes a while but it works for me as a casual farmers. Never tried Old Orsinium but if other say is works good for them then it's worth a shot to try.

ConeOfSilence · June 2016

Suddenly with the new system anything between CP1-140 is worthless and Rubedo is worth 20K in the guild stores.

NewBlacksmurf · June 2016

Why are u farming it at all. Just deconstruct as its a shorter path of u don't need tempers.

Just do some randoms and while waiting do scaled delves

Epona222 · June 2016

Most of my characters right now are running around in the same gear they had pre-vet-removal. It's absolutely fine for normal questing.

I already had 1 character at VR16 with fully upgraded max level gear, so she shares some of her gear with other stamina characters if they want to do content that requires better gear than is needed for questing.

I also made a max level 5 piece set of Julianos for my magicka characters to swap around between them for higher difficulty content.

I do intend to equip more characters with their own gear eventually, as it's a bit of a pita swapping gear around, but there's no real urgency for me to have every character with their own gear right now. I'll wait until I have built up my own stocks a bit and mat prices come down - they will come down, because quest rewards and some (not all) mob drops from gold zones are now 150/160 gear, so at least get 1 piece from each decon.

Troneon · June 2016

Gold Coast is dropping quite a lot of it. Almost all of the npc's I kill that can drop it always 99% of the time drop at least one piece.

Orsinium has some great farming spots, even one with faster respawn times and great exp farming but im not giving that one away.

Also a few players don't know the prices of things so they trade one for one...

200 ore for 200 leather...etc etc...

Quicker if 250-300 ore for 200 leather etc...

SlayerTheDragon · June 2016

Again I say:

The Gold zones (CP160) should be dropping these top level crafting mats. Currently they are CP140 mats and nodes only.

ContraTempo · June 2016

Epona222 wrote: »

Most of my characters right now are running around in the same gear they had pre-vet-removal. It's absolutely fine for normal questing.

I already had 1 character at VR16 with fully upgraded max level gear, so she shares some of her gear with other stamina characters if they want to do content that requires better gear than is needed for questing.

I also made a max level 5 piece set of Julianos for my magicka characters to swap around between them for higher difficulty content.

I do intend to equip more characters with their own gear eventually, as it's a bit of a pita swapping gear around, but there's no real urgency for me to have every character with their own gear right now. I'll wait until I have built up my own stocks a bit and mat prices come down - they will come down, because quest rewards and some (not all) mob drops from gold zones are now 150/160 gear, so at least get 1 piece from each decon.

I had a character at lvl 49 who has now jumped to vet levels. So in one shot she went from LVL 49 to CP160. Suddenly all the monsters that scale are much more deadly. I'm not sure why since the whole area is scaled to CP150 anyway but I guess her equipment must scale based on her level, not the level of the gear. Maybe someone has a better idea how this works.

khele23eb17_ESO · June 2016

ContraTempo wrote: »

Epona222 wrote: »

Most of my characters right now are running around in the same gear they had pre-vet-removal. It's absolutely fine for normal questing.

I already had 1 character at VR16 with fully upgraded max level gear, so she shares some of her gear with other stamina characters if they want to do content that requires better gear than is needed for questing.

I also made a max level 5 piece set of Julianos for my magicka characters to swap around between them for higher difficulty content.

I do intend to equip more characters with their own gear eventually, as it's a bit of a pita swapping gear around, but there's no real urgency for me to have every character with their own gear right now. I'll wait until I have built up my own stocks a bit and mat prices come down - they will come down, because quest rewards and some (not all) mob drops from gold zones are now 150/160 gear, so at least get 1 piece from each decon.

I had a character at lvl 49 who has now jumped to vet levels. So in one shot she went from LVL 49 to CP160. Suddenly all the monsters that scale are much more deadly. I'm not sure why since the whole area is scaled to CP150 anyway but I guess her equipment must scale based on her level, not the level of the gear. Maybe someone has a better idea how this works.

This is why.

Basically the way scaling is set up, it makes low level characters stronger in many aspects than fully geared max level ones. So when you ding 50, you are no longer scaled up and you move from being a god to being a PoS scrub and then have to work your way up to being a wimp.

DurzoBlint13 · June 2016

The beginning area in Old Orsinium is great for farming leather. Also, Cold Perch cavern and Nikolvara's Kennel are good

Kas · June 2016

start the game before work, kill enemy-faction IC farmers, buy several stacks for TVS, go to work

sekou_trayvond · June 2016

Old Orsinium
Way rest Sewers

Also, one can just cruise Tamriel's scenic waterways slaughtering mudcrabs. Also helpful now for piling up chitin as well.

GreenhaloX · June 2016

I typically don't have an issue in Wrothgar and Hew's Bane. Usually get a good drop or rubedo scraps, but I typically kill every bears, lions and most any nature's beasties I run into. Most of the time, things respawn fairly quickly, so, if you do your rounds, you will run into them again.. doesn't matter who had killed them prior. I don't know.. things may respawn quicker during peak time of gameplay. I can be standing around and within a couple minutes, the beasties, ore, plants or treasure chests will respawn. Now, trying to refine the rubedite ores, rubedo and ancient silks to get the right materials towards upgrading to gold.. now that's a crazy story.

lardvader · June 2016

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

+1 for Old Orsinium

Yes still the best place. Well I farmed enough for full v16 pre TG so I don't think the droprate for rubedo is bad at all. You can get this stuff from mudcrabs now

Pre TG it would be a rare drop in Orsinium even but still managed to get by. However you probably find less rubedo than the other mats so ratio might be "bad" but still not a big issue imho.

TerraDewBerry · June 2016

The problem I see with Rubedo, and really all leather gathering is that for all the other gear crafting mats, you can get 3-4 and if you have the plentiful harvest 6-8 off the their nodes.. not so with leather. Kill something that should drop Rubedo and you'll get 2 maybe 3 if you're "lucky." I have seen huge mammoths drop 1 Rubedo leather.. and little goat drop 3.. doesn't that seem sort of silly? That huge animal only has 1 Rubedo leather??? Really??

ZOS needs to make animals that drop Rubedo and all other leathers be more in line with all the other crafting nodes for fabric and ore. It only seems right and fair.

Faulgor · June 2016

SlayerTheDragon wrote: »

Again I say:

The Gold zones (CP160) should be dropping these top level crafting mats. Currently they are CP140 mats and nodes only.

Man, I was so naive. When I heard the gold zones are now scaled to CP160, I went straight to Crow's Wood with my DC clothier. My face when all I got was shadowhide

Korah_Eaglecry · June 2016

GreenhaloX wrote: »

I typically don't have an issue in Wrothgar and Hew's Bane. Usually get a good drop or rubedo scraps, but I typically kill every bears, lions and most any nature's beasties I run into. Most of the time, things respawn fairly quickly, so, if you do your rounds, you will run into them again.. doesn't matter who had killed them prior. I don't know.. things may respawn quicker during peak time of gameplay. I can be standing around and within a couple minutes, the beasties, ore, plants or treasure chests will respawn. Now, trying to refine the rubedite ores, rubedo and ancient silks to get the right materials towards upgrading to gold.. now that's a crazy story.

Ive been running a circuit in Hews Bane as it has the best clusters of leather dropping mobs that I can move through. But its been a bit daunting to get through some of it, mostly because I can go 2 or so hours and barely pop 100 unrefined scraps. Ima try some of the other areas that people have been mentioning here and see if I get better drops for my efforts.

Danksta · June 2016

Ornate and intricate items have a chance to drop multiple rubedo pieces when deconstructed. I've gotten up to 6 pieces per item.

Korah_Eaglecry · June 2016

Ahnastashia wrote: »

The problem I see with Rubedo, and really all leather gathering is that for all the other gear crafting mats, you can get 3-4 and if you have the plentiful harvest 6-8 off the their nodes.. not so with leather. Kill something that should drop Rubedo and you'll get 2 maybe 3 if you're "lucky." I have seen huge mammoths drop 1 Rubedo leather.. and little goat drop 3.. doesn't that seem sort of silly? That huge animal only has 1 Rubedo leather??? Really??

ZOS needs to make animals that drop Rubedo and all other leathers be more in line with all the other crafting nodes for fabric and ore. It only seems right and fair.

Thats probably my biggest complaint right now. Personally I dont want to see every animal capable of dropping leather doing it. Theres far more animals to kill than there are nodes for light and heavy armor. But I would at least like to see the leather drops increased when they do. A single scrap for killing a lion just seems like a spit in the face.

N0TPLAYER2 · June 2016

You're all doing it wrong.

Either farm something else to make money, or, do a ton of dungeons. Your inventory will be overflowing before you know it of all the items to deconstruct that will return rubedo.

Lol at anyone seriously farming mud crabs. Go farm flowers. Sell, buy leather.

Mashille · June 2016

Personally, I think they should add a 'Skinning' passive to the Clothing Skill Tree. Allowing you to 'Skin' certain animals and critters you kill, with some sort of skinning animation proving 1 - 4 depending on the size of the kill. Also could be affected by 'Plentiful harvest' in the CP tree.

Just a thought.