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We are currently evaluating when and if we will reset additional PvE leaderboards
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"We are currently evaluating when and if we will reset additional PvE leaderboards." - v.2.4.5. patch notes
Is this really a discussion @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_Finn @Wrobel ?
I can name just a few reasons why you need to reset ALL the PVE Boards again:
1. You've completely "rebalanced" the game again. Poisons, traits, skills, CP. literally everything has changed again.
2. Cheat Engine, I mean at this point you may as well burn the leaderboards since cheat engine was even a thing.
3. Bugs, aka, "Roar of Alkosh: Fixed an issue where the Physical and Spell Resistance debuff applied from this item set was stacking.". was this being used by top players to get 40k+ dps? and now it's removed? will that be a fair competition? Please xplain this one more.....was this on live or just pts?
I came up with these reasons in like 30 seconds, can the community come up with more?
Edited by Cuyler on May 31, 2016 4:44PM Is this really a discussion @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_Finn @Wrobel ?
I can name just a few reasons why you need to reset ALL the PVE Boards again:
1. You've completely "rebalanced" the game again. Poisons, traits, skills, CP. literally everything has changed again.
2. Cheat Engine, I mean at this point you may as well burn the leaderboards since cheat engine was even a thing.
3. Bugs, aka, "Roar of Alkosh: Fixed an issue where the Physical and Spell Resistance debuff applied from this item set was stacking.". was this being used by top players to get 40k+ dps? and now it's removed? will that be a fair competition? Please xplain this one more.....was this on live or just pts?
I came up with these reasons in like 30 seconds, can the community come up with more?
Guild: STACK n BURN (gm) PC - NA
CP 810 18 Maxed Characters:
"How hard can u guar?" - Rafishul[/spoiler]
CP 810 18 Maxed Characters:
"How hard can u guar?" - Rafishul[/spoiler]
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✭✭✭✭I would prefer that they just remove any scores for anyone that was banned. Removing all scores basically punishes the people that were not cheating.Edited by timidobserver on May 31, 2016 4:45PMV16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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✭✭✭✭✭timidobserver wrote: »I would prefer that they just remove any scores for anyone that was banned. Removing all scores basically punishes the people that were not cheating.
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✭timidobserver wrote: »I would prefer that they just remove any scores for anyone that was banned. Removing all scores basically punishes the people that were not cheating.
Look again, it's not just about the cheating. The bugs that we're being used, aka alkosh....combined with a full rebalancing of the game essentially makes whatever score was put up yesterday and a score put up tomorrow an apples to oranges comparison.
At this point I should of left the Cheat engine part out of it cause people here get tunnel vision. This leaderboard reset should happen with or without the CE issue, The changes to gameplay and bugs warrant a reset in and of themselves!!!!!Edited by Cuyler on May 31, 2016 7:53PMGuild: STACK n BURN (gm) PC - NA
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✭✭✭✭timidobserver wrote: »I would prefer that they just remove any scores for anyone that was banned. Removing all scores basically punishes the people that were not cheating.
Look again, it's not just about the cheating. The bugs that we're being used, aka alkosh....combined with a full rebalancing of the game essentially makes whatever score was put up yesterday and a score put up tomorrow an apples to oranges comparison.
I don't really care about bugs and exploits. Someone is always discovering some bug to exploit. I am fine with just dropping people that have been banned in relation to cheat engine from the leadboards.
The below post indicates that there is a way to detect it beyond people witnessing it.timidobserver wrote: »I would prefer that they just remove any scores for anyone that was banned. Removing all scores basically punishes the people that were not cheating.
There is no way to ban people who used it in PvE, because of well no witnesses hence no proper reports.ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »Just a quick update for everyone regarding the recent influx of those using third party tools to cheat in ESO. We've adjusted our automatic anti-cheat systems to focus specifically on the cheats we've seen in the last few days, in addition to launching investigations on specific players. We've permanently banned 43 players in the last 24 hours who were found to be cheating. We don't take cheating lightly, and will continue to ban those who are found to be cheating. We'll be going back through game logs to identify players who were violating our anti-cheating policies in the hours before we performed the automatic cheat detection adjustment.
In addition, we're working on a number of fixes and improvements to prevent this kind of behavior from happening in ESO in the future. We'll provide more specific details about this tomorrow.
We want to thank everyone who has helped us identify those who would ruin your game experience by cheating, and the means by which they were doing so.Edited by timidobserver on May 31, 2016 5:06PMV16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
V16 Redacted Ep Stam Sorc
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That post mentions "more details tomorrow". Have they made an additional statement?timidobserver wrote: »timidobserver wrote: »I would prefer that they just remove any scores for anyone that was banned. Removing all scores basically punishes the people that were not cheating.
Look again, it's not just about the cheating. The bugs that we're being used, aka alkosh....combined with a full rebalancing of the game essentially makes whatever score was put up yesterday and a score put up tomorrow an apples to oranges comparison.
I don't really care about bugs and exploits. Someone is always discovering some bug to exploit. I am fine with just dropping people that have been banned in relation to cheat engine from the leadboards.
The below post indicates that there is a way to detect it beyond people witnessing it.timidobserver wrote: »I would prefer that they just remove any scores for anyone that was banned. Removing all scores basically punishes the people that were not cheating.
There is no way to ban people who used it in PvE, because of well no witnesses hence no proper reports.ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »Just a quick update for everyone regarding the recent influx of those using third party tools to cheat in ESO. We've adjusted our automatic anti-cheat systems to focus specifically on the cheats we've seen in the last few days, in addition to launching investigations on specific players. We've permanently banned 43 players in the last 24 hours who were found to be cheating. We don't take cheating lightly, and will continue to ban those who are found to be cheating. We'll be going back through game logs to identify players who were violating our anti-cheating policies in the hours before we performed the automatic cheat detection adjustment.
In addition, we're working on a number of fixes and improvements to prevent this kind of behavior from happening in ESO in the future. We'll provide more specific details about this tomorrow.
We want to thank everyone who has helped us identify those who would ruin your game experience by cheating, and the means by which they were doing so.
Edited by Cuyler on May 31, 2016 7:43PMGuild: STACK n BURN (gm) PC - NA
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✭...and while we are at it, why not just remove Maelstrom weapons from anyone who has ever completed vMA
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✭stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »...and while we are at it, why not just remove Maelstrom weapons from anyone who has ever completed vMA
if they are not cheaters then it will not be a problem for them to complete it in future (i really need a LOL here)
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That post mentions "more details tomorrow". Have they made an additional statement?timidobserver wrote: »timidobserver wrote: »I would prefer that they just remove any scores for anyone that was banned. Removing all scores basically punishes the people that were not cheating.
Look again, it's not just about the cheating. The bugs that we're being used, aka alkosh....combined with a full rebalancing of the game essentially makes whatever score was put up yesterday and a score put up tomorrow an apples to oranges comparison.
I don't really care about bugs and exploits. Someone is always discovering some bug to exploit. I am fine with just dropping people that have been banned in relation to cheat engine from the leadboards.
The below post indicates that there is a way to detect it beyond people witnessing it.timidobserver wrote: »I would prefer that they just remove any scores for anyone that was banned. Removing all scores basically punishes the people that were not cheating.
There is no way to ban people who used it in PvE, because of well no witnesses hence no proper reports.ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »Just a quick update for everyone regarding the recent influx of those using third party tools to cheat in ESO. We've adjusted our automatic anti-cheat systems to focus specifically on the cheats we've seen in the last few days, in addition to launching investigations on specific players. We've permanently banned 43 players in the last 24 hours who were found to be cheating. We don't take cheating lightly, and will continue to ban those who are found to be cheating. We'll be going back through game logs to identify players who were violating our anti-cheating policies in the hours before we performed the automatic cheat detection adjustment.
In addition, we're working on a number of fixes and improvements to prevent this kind of behavior from happening in ESO in the future. We'll provide more specific details about this tomorrow.
We want to thank everyone who has helped us identify those who would ruin your game experience by cheating, and the means by which they were doing so.
No not yet, I was focusing mostly on the two parts where they describe being able to detect cheating, which means it should function in PvE as well.V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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✭✭✭✭✭timidobserver wrote: »I would prefer that they just remove any scores for anyone that was banned. Removing all scores basically punishes the people that were not cheating.
Agree. Was on the group that got the second best score in AA last week, obviously it was a good score for the regular leaderboard. It was a legit run. It wasn't raining meteors and no one was using 5pc of alkosh.
Additionally, the patch didn't completely rebalance the game, changes were similar to each DLC. Only time they should chmage leaderboard is when scoring changes. Obviously SO should be cleared but that's it.
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This is your expert opinion? Lel and I believe you meant 2nd best NA?Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »Additionally, the patch didn't completely rebalance the game, changes were similar to each DLC. Only time they should chmage leaderboard is when scoring changes. Obviously SO should be cleared but that's it.
In other words, the OP suggestion and reasoning is an over reaction.
edit: they reset the boards the last two patches and I believe and for a stamina bug. They've done it for less.Edited by Cuyler on May 31, 2016 8:22PMGuild: STACK n BURN (gm) PC - NA
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This is your expert opinion? Lel and I believe you meant 2nd best NA?Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »Additionally, the patch didn't completely rebalance the game, changes were similar to each DLC. Only time they should chmage leaderboard is when scoring changes. Obviously SO should be cleared but that's it.
In other words, the OP suggestion and reasoning is an over reaction.
Obviously speaking about second best on the server.
My elxpert oppinion? Considering some of your replies in here are clearly trolling, your obvusously only interested in forcing your oppinion onto others and do not have the intent starting a discussion.0 -
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✭Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »
This is your expert opinion? Lel and I believe you meant 2nd best NA?Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »Additionally, the patch didn't completely rebalance the game, changes were similar to each DLC. Only time they should chmage leaderboard is when scoring changes. Obviously SO should be cleared but that's it.
In other words, the OP suggestion and reasoning is an over reaction.
Obviously speaking about second best on the server.
My elxpert oppinion? Considering some of your replies in here are clearly trolling, your obvusously only interested in forcing your oppinion onto others and do not have the intent starting a discussion.
I could use some facts to back up your opinion is all....the patch notes reflect many balance changes and are in direct conflict with what you said. I wanted a discussion, not a hand waving argument with your new AA score sprinkled in.
P.s. The teams who get better scores than you were using alkosh to get those scores. Now that it's fixed, you think it's fair when other people attempt to get a high score to match theirs?? Trust me I know how you feel, but is this just because you got a shiny new score in AA and want to keep it?
My guild had a 169k in SO last patch the day before they wiped them for the stam bug, and since then haven't been competing in AA, HRC or SO, but it's whatever....not going to fight for the score to remain over some bug.
Also I'll just link this here for some "light" reading https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/262647/dark-brotherhood-combat-changes/p1
Not too many changes there right? /sarcasm
And where am I trolling exactly?
Edited by Cuyler on May 31, 2016 7:42PMGuild: STACK n BURN (gm) PC - NA
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Erraln✭✭✭✭✭Yea, the whole things needs a good wipedown, honestly. The extravagant feats seen in Cyrodiil garner reactions, but say... increasing stat pool 15%, or regen tick speed, both of which were possible... There's no way to even see the more subtle offenses without detailed analyses, or tell whether a run was helped by them.Edited by Erraln on May 31, 2016 7:51PM2 -
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If they reset leaderboards every time there is some minor exploit or bug, they will be resetting them every other week. I'll be satisfied if they just remove any impact of the cheat engine thing from the leaderboards.Edited by timidobserver on May 31, 2016 7:54PMV16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
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✭✭✭✭✭A leaderboard reset is necessary. Even leaving aside exploits, the balance changes are simply too great. We've had a reset every quarter since IC, so it's pretty much normal by this point. Just do it.Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
Dungeons and Trials:Personal best scores:- Dragonstar Arena: 46817 (NA)
- Maelstrom Arena: 600526 (NA)
- Blackrose Prison: 99274 (EU) (Unchained)
- Maw of Lorkhaj: 165227 (EU)
- Halls of Fabrication: 220708 (NA) (Tick-Tock Tormentor #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11, #12)
- Asylum Sanctorium: 114957 (NA) (Immortal Redeemer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10)
- Cloudrest: 131256 (NA) (Gryphon Heart #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Sunspire: 250866 (EU) (Godslayer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Kyne's Aegis: 235841 (EU) (Dawnbringer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8)
Dungeon trifectas:- Mountain God and Leave No Bone Unbroken
- Apex Predator and Pure Lunacy
- Depths Defier and Relentless Raider
- Defanged the Devourer and Nature's Wrath
- In Defiance of Death and No Rest for the Wicked
- Bane of Thorns and True Genius
- Ardent Bibliophile and Subterranean Smasher
- Battlespire's Best and Bastion Breaker
- Zero Regrets and Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy
- Fist of Tava and Invader's Bane
- Curator's Champion (Valinna) and Temporal Tempest
- Unshakeable Fervor and Lighting the Embers
Extended Journal Add-Ons: Item Set Browser ― Loot Log ― Character Knowledge ― Collectibles Tracker ― RaidificatorPC/Console Add-Ons: Combat Alerts ― Group Buff PanelsOther Add-Ons: Deconstruction Junk Marker ― Purge Tracker ― Asylum Status Panel ― Smart Looter ― Improved Companion Rapport Information3 -
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✭timidobserver wrote: »
If they reset leaderboards every time there is some minor exploit or bug, they will be resetting them every other week. I'll be satisfied if they just remove any impact of the cheat engine thing from the leaderboards.
You downplay them as "Minor", but I disagree. You think all these changes
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/262647/dark-brotherhood-combat-changes/p1
As well as the Alkosh bug we're minor?
They removed vet ranks this patch for god sakes, that's like the biggest change since they introduced CPs. You guys are too funny.
Edited by Cuyler on May 31, 2016 8:30PMGuild: STACK n BURN (gm) PC - NA
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✭✭✭✭A leaderboard reset is necessary. Even leaving aside exploits, the balance changes are simply too great. We've had a reset every quarter since IC, so it's pretty much normal by this point. Just do it.
Honestly, damage should be boosted enough now that most leaderboard scores will be trumped, other than that silly Sorc VMA score which should just be manually deleted if cheatengine was involved.V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
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✭timidobserver wrote: »A leaderboard reset is necessary. Even leaving aside exploits, the balance changes are simply too great. We've had a reset every quarter since IC, so it's pretty much normal by this point. Just do it.
Honestly, damage should be boosted enough now that most leaderboard scores will be trumped, other than that silly Sorc VMA score which should just be manually deleted if cheat engine was involved.
Again, I'd like some info to back up these kind of claims. Not to be rude, just sick of people waving their "opinions" around whether true or not. With the proper counter argument based in facts I'd be more than happy to adjust my opinion. But I don't see any real arguments from anyone.
I'm presenting what I've seen from the patch notes, along with ZOS's past history of clearing the boards after significant balance changes, and prior hax/bugs. And it's clear to me this calls for a full wipe. Tack on the CE thing and it's a no brainer (to me).
I feel like I need reiterate again and again too, This is not about CE. This is not a "punishment" for anyone. It's simply to foster fair competition due to the overwhelming changes to core systems and gameplay.Edited by Cuyler on May 31, 2016 8:21PMGuild: STACK n BURN (gm) PC - NA
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✭✭✭✭✭timidobserver wrote: »Honestly, damage should be boosted enough now that most leaderboard scores will be trumped, other than that silly Sorc VMA score which should just be manually deleted if cheatengine was involved.
What boosts in damage? For vMA, Magblades and ember-spamming magknights lost a big chunk of healing with the loss of the crit double-dip. And magsorcs got kicked hard in the groin. The changes to Ward and Surge will severely affect average magsorcs and would likely even lower the scores of sorcs at the very top. Magplars, which arguably got the biggest buff in the form of Retribution, also lost Dawnbreaker which was one of the best ultimates for the class.
Only stamina classes got buffs this time around. With the increase in ability costs and the removal of heal crit double-dips, magicka are about the same or worse off than before.
A leaderboard reset is simply the right and fair thing to do. If you're just interested in having access to old scores, I would strongly suggest checking out @Woeler's website, which also has an archive snapshots of old leaderboards or the Raidificator addon, which keeps a historical log of every score you ever earn.Edited by code65536 on May 31, 2016 10:45PMNightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
Dungeons and Trials:Personal best scores:- Dragonstar Arena: 46817 (NA)
- Maelstrom Arena: 600526 (NA)
- Blackrose Prison: 99274 (EU) (Unchained)
- Maw of Lorkhaj: 165227 (EU)
- Halls of Fabrication: 220708 (NA) (Tick-Tock Tormentor #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11, #12)
- Asylum Sanctorium: 114957 (NA) (Immortal Redeemer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10)
- Cloudrest: 131256 (NA) (Gryphon Heart #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Sunspire: 250866 (EU) (Godslayer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Kyne's Aegis: 235841 (EU) (Dawnbringer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8)
Dungeon trifectas:- Mountain God and Leave No Bone Unbroken
- Apex Predator and Pure Lunacy
- Depths Defier and Relentless Raider
- Defanged the Devourer and Nature's Wrath
- In Defiance of Death and No Rest for the Wicked
- Bane of Thorns and True Genius
- Ardent Bibliophile and Subterranean Smasher
- Battlespire's Best and Bastion Breaker
- Zero Regrets and Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy
- Fist of Tava and Invader's Bane
- Curator's Champion (Valinna) and Temporal Tempest
- Unshakeable Fervor and Lighting the Embers
Extended Journal Add-Ons: Item Set Browser ― Loot Log ― Character Knowledge ― Collectibles Tracker ― RaidificatorPC/Console Add-Ons: Combat Alerts ― Group Buff PanelsOther Add-Ons: Deconstruction Junk Marker ― Purge Tracker ― Asylum Status Panel ― Smart Looter ― Improved Companion Rapport Information1 -
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✭There's no point in wiping leaderboard. The leaderboard scores are just going to keep improving from this patch and onwards as players get stronger over time.
Also, for the Alkosh thing, there are only two groups who have completed VMOL on PC NA, and only one of the groups actually has Alkosh. If other guilds find that it's impossible to beat their score simply because they abused Alkosh, sure, remove the time. But I think that score will eventually be beaten, even by the same group without the Alkosh bug.0 -
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Is this really a discussion @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_Finn @Wrobel ?
I can name just a few reasons why you need to reset ALL the PVE Boards again:
1. You've completely "rebalanced" the game again. Poisons, traits, skills, CP. literally everything has changed again.
2. Cheat Engine, I mean at this point you may as well burn the leaderboards since cheat engine was even a thing.
3. Bugs, aka, "Roar of Alkosh: Fixed an issue where the Physical and Spell Resistance debuff applied from this item set was stacking.". was this being used by top players to get 40k+ dps? and now it's removed? will that be a fair competition? Please xplain this one more.....was this on live or just pts?
I came up with these reasons in like 30 seconds, can the community come up with more?
You used to much logic. I was really surprised they didn't reset the boards.Briza Do'urdenx V16 Dunmer DK
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✭✭✭✭✭s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »The leaderboard scores are just going to keep improving from this patch and onwards as players get stronger over time.
Did you even read the post right above yours before making such a ridiculous sweeping statement?
No CP increase. Higher resource costs. Aside from the obvious buffs to stamina, tell me, where exactly is this power creep going to come from?
ZOS has learned from their past mistakes and seem to be doing a lot more to prevent power creep from going out of hand (well, aside from the hilarious buffs to stam DKs this patch).Edited by code65536 on May 31, 2016 10:57PMNightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
Dungeons and Trials:Personal best scores:- Dragonstar Arena: 46817 (NA)
- Maelstrom Arena: 600526 (NA)
- Blackrose Prison: 99274 (EU) (Unchained)
- Maw of Lorkhaj: 165227 (EU)
- Halls of Fabrication: 220708 (NA) (Tick-Tock Tormentor #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11, #12)
- Asylum Sanctorium: 114957 (NA) (Immortal Redeemer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10)
- Cloudrest: 131256 (NA) (Gryphon Heart #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Sunspire: 250866 (EU) (Godslayer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Kyne's Aegis: 235841 (EU) (Dawnbringer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8)
Dungeon trifectas:- Mountain God and Leave No Bone Unbroken
- Apex Predator and Pure Lunacy
- Depths Defier and Relentless Raider
- Defanged the Devourer and Nature's Wrath
- In Defiance of Death and No Rest for the Wicked
- Bane of Thorns and True Genius
- Ardent Bibliophile and Subterranean Smasher
- Battlespire's Best and Bastion Breaker
- Zero Regrets and Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy
- Fist of Tava and Invader's Bane
- Curator's Champion (Valinna) and Temporal Tempest
- Unshakeable Fervor and Lighting the Embers
Extended Journal Add-Ons: Item Set Browser ― Loot Log ― Character Knowledge ― Collectibles Tracker ― RaidificatorPC/Console Add-Ons: Combat Alerts ― Group Buff PanelsOther Add-Ons: Deconstruction Junk Marker ― Purge Tracker ― Asylum Status Panel ― Smart Looter ― Improved Companion Rapport Information1 -
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✭✭I fully expect the leaderboards to be reset as they are with every DLC, this would probably happen regardless of the hacks people are using.1 -
Xjcon✭✭✭✭✭timidobserver wrote: »I would prefer that they just remove any scores for anyone that was banned. Removing all scores basically punishes the people that were not cheating.
How can we prove who did or didn't cheat? Regardless of the cheats the Meta will change. If they keep doing game play changes every DLC they should reset the boards every DLC.Briza Do'urdenx V16 Dunmer DK
Jcon V16 Orc DK
Vierna Do'urdenx V16 Bosmer NB
Jarlaxle Baenrex V16 Dunmer NB1 -
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I believe there was only one guild who knew about the alkosh bug, well thats all i knew good for them for reporting it.timidobserver wrote: »I would prefer that they just remove any scores for anyone that was banned. Removing all scores basically punishes the people that were not cheating.
Look again, it's not just about the cheating. The bugs that we're being used, aka alkosh....combined with a full rebalancing of the game essentially makes whatever score was put up yesterday and a score put up tomorrow an apples to oranges comparison.
At this point I should of left the Cheat engine part out of it cause people here get tunnel vision. This leaderboard reset should happen with or without the CE issue, The changes to gameplay and bugs warrant a reset in and of themselves!!!!!
p.s. a leaderboard reset is happening, they just dont know when they are doing itEdited by Nifty2g on May 31, 2016 11:04PM#MOREORBS1