HoloYoitsu wrote: »

In future years, MMO developers can look at ZOS as a case study of how NOT to run their games. At least there's that.

oh my gawd!!!! i must buy you a drink

Lord-Stien wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

krathos wrote: »

OtarTheMad wrote: »

I will probably get in trouble for this but screw worrying about getting in trouble for naming and shaming. Call them out, we all should if we have video... stand up for what should be a great game and great PvP. ZoS should pick a side and decide what is more important... naming and shaming or an exploit that makes Overwatch look extremely appealing.

Yo I would love to call them out but that just gets posts removed and reduces visibility of the problem to the community. There's plenty of other ways to find out who's abusing the system. If people want to know they can PM me and I will gladly fork over every name I've seen do it so far. But lets keep names out of this post so we can have a discussion w/o zos nuking it.

Sending you a PM - we want the names.

Are you actually going to do something about it ? or are you just going to limp wrist slap em and act like nothing happened ?


For once ZOS.... ban the ass*** in the game .... not the people trying to make your sorry a### excuse for a game work.

Rant over ....

If they are using the cheat software, ban them from all Bethesda games possible. No excuses, none of this "They are only trying to expose the hack/exploit." bs.

If you're going to test it, do it, report it, and never use it again.

(Reposting from a closed thread...)

Double Nova was a bug in ZOS's code that people can use either intentionally or accidentally. Banker survey was an oversight in ZOS's code that some people discovered by accident and many intentionally exploited.

But is a whole new level. It's not a ZOS bug. It's not a ZOS oversight. It's people deliberately altering ZOS's code. This isn't something that you can accidentally stumble upon. It requires a lot of advanced programming and reverse-engineering expertise and hours of analysis to create this alteration (Cheat Engine is just a platform--in order to do something like this, there needs to also be ESO-specific patches that are not easy to create). Of course, once created, it can be distributed and used by people with no technical knowledge. But the degree of intention and premeditation here is extreme, and nobody can throw up an "I did it by accident" or "I stumbled upon this" defense.

The difference between typical exploits and this hack is like the difference between Manslaughter and First-Degree Murder. And the punishment should be accordingly greater. @ZOS_JessicaFolsom I hope you'll agree that nothing less than a permanent ban would be appropriate here.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

forzajuve212 wrote: »

Thank you. If you haven't seen this video yet, this is the most troubling one out of all the stuff that it happening. This needs to be top priority.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7G3UnF1eZU

Thank you for reporting these and providing video proof. We've got that one and three others that have gone off to the Support, Live, and Dev teams for review and investigation.

While we'd prefer our players not call out others for allegedly cheating in-game here on the forums -- mainly because those of us here on the forums don't have access to the tools and game logs needed to investigate those claims while the Support team does -- the use of external cheat programs is not something we take lightly. We are investigating those who have been reported for this behavior.

Thanks so much for the swift response.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

krathos wrote: »

OtarTheMad wrote: »

I will probably get in trouble for this but screw worrying about getting in trouble for naming and shaming. Call them out, we all should if we have video... stand up for what should be a great game and great PvP. ZoS should pick a side and decide what is more important... naming and shaming or an exploit that makes Overwatch look extremely appealing.

Yo I would love to call them out but that just gets posts removed and reduces visibility of the problem to the community. There's plenty of other ways to find out who's abusing the system. If people want to know they can PM me and I will gladly fork over every name I've seen do it so far. But lets keep names out of this post so we can have a discussion w/o zos nuking it.

Sending you a PM - we want the names.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OGp9P6QvMjY

Khamira wrote: »

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

But imagine how many houses you could build with nova! You could create your very own real estate market bubble.

Or completely redesign Aldmeri Dominion Base...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfkSFbI1oTI

@KenaPKK oh.my.god.

That is such a clear cut case, naming and shaming should be fine. Ridiculous to have to redact names on that.

Alcast wrote: »

So funny

Post the namess in youtube pls

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

forzajuve212 wrote: »

Thank you. If you haven't seen this video yet, this is the most troubling one out of all the stuff that it happening. This needs to be top priority.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7G3UnF1eZU

Thank you for reporting these and providing video proof. We've got that one and three others that have gone off to the Support, Live, and Dev teams for review and investigation.

While we'd prefer our players not call out others for allegedly cheating in-game here on the forums -- mainly because those of us here on the forums don't have access to the tools and game logs needed to investigate those claims while the Support team does -- the use of external cheat programs is not something we take lightly. We are investigating those who have been reported for this behavior.

"allegedly cheating" lol priceless

undiscovered means of flying in ESO confirmed

Docmandu wrote: »

And some of you want to move all logic back to the game client for "performance" reasons... how do you think Cyrodiil would look if that ever happens.

Anyway I'm sure we're going to see "I was wrongfully banned" posts on here and reddit now, but glad ZOS is taking this seriously.

Moving the calculations back to client side is fine, the problem is ZOS has refused to follow the path of pretty much most modern MMOs and use a gameguard program that would monitor your system processes and detect hacking programs like Cheat Engine. This really isn't a difficult concept to grasp.

Ahh the next state of a dieing MMO. The good players are bored. No more real challenge so they start cheating for fun. Sure they might get banned course they also don't care. They are on the verge of changing games anyways and just want pushed in the other direction.

Let's watch it burn and smoulder a bit longer.

With this thing I don't need to buy anymore waffles.

Well at least with the nerf to shields I am liking the huge buff to storm calling.... Those hail though they are a little too big. May I suggest a little tweaking before db dlc.

is it me or does it look like ZO$ are relying on player videos to police the game?