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4,000 Crowns for new Senche Mount Too Much?
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RedRoomGaming✭✭✭dimensional wrote: »RedRoomGaming wrote: »dimensional wrote: »RedRoomGaming wrote: »dimensional wrote: »RedRoomGaming wrote: »dimensional wrote: »Every business is a money grabber. That is the reason for the existence of commerce.
It doesn't matter anyway I see why you are here now. Every other comment is yours intentionally either having a crack or arguing so have a lovely day/evening where ever you are
Spoken like someone who can't back up their own arguments with logic and reasoning and simply turns tail to avoid a debate which they know they will lose. Have a nice day
No I just do not want to feed the troll. I do not understand your undying need for replies or justification to others why this is so high in price. If you agree with the price move on and let others have their say, no need to reply to basically everyone is there.
Labeling someone who has an opposite view of yours as a "troll" is a desperate attempt to justify backing away from the debate and rationalize insane beliefs. If you disagree with the price, move on and let others have their say. No need to reply to basically everyone there is.
Okay I am not replying to anyone but you there for I am leaving everyone have their say. You believe that I am backing away all you want I however have a life and am now enjoying it by not sitting on the internet white knighting for a company that obviously cares nothing for it's customers.
In another note there price is to high but it still looks cool.
You are backing away, because that's exactly what you're doing. Failing to explain your position that ZOS are "money grabbers". I posted a perfectly reasonable response that refuted this claim and all you have done so far is call me a troll. That actually is the exact behavior of a troll. Also lol @ using the term "white knighting" unironically. Are you some 16 year old 4channer? lmao
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Thornen✭✭✭✭✭I have to wonder if this was a test to see what the metrics would look like on units sold. They haven't sold anything cosmetic this expensive before, and they are probably trying to find the point at which the number of buyers drops below the desired threshold. Since supply is infinite (but not availablity) they need to have at least 1.5 times the number of people buy this compared to a mount that costs 2.5k crowns. (That was fake guessing math, no one freak out, you get the point).
That said, 4k is hilariously expensive.
Zos are in full on fantasy land when it comes to their pricing, 4k crowns lol well there'll be plebs that pay that much so well see more of the same in the future. There is 0 point in complaining about it they simply do not care.0 -
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✭RedRoomGaming wrote: »dimensional wrote: »RedRoomGaming wrote: »dimensional wrote: »RedRoomGaming wrote: »dimensional wrote: »RedRoomGaming wrote: »dimensional wrote: »Every business is a money grabber. That is the reason for the existence of commerce.
It doesn't matter anyway I see why you are here now. Every other comment is yours intentionally either having a crack or arguing so have a lovely day/evening where ever you are
Spoken like someone who can't back up their own arguments with logic and reasoning and simply turns tail to avoid a debate which they know they will lose. Have a nice day
No I just do not want to feed the troll. I do not understand your undying need for replies or justification to others why this is so high in price. If you agree with the price move on and let others have their say, no need to reply to basically everyone is there.
Labeling someone who has an opposite view of yours as a "troll" is a desperate attempt to justify backing away from the debate and rationalize insane beliefs. If you disagree with the price, move on and let others have their say. No need to reply to basically everyone there is.
Okay I am not replying to anyone but you there for I am leaving everyone have their say. You believe that I am backing away all you want I however have a life and am now enjoying it by not sitting on the internet white knighting for a company that obviously cares nothing for it's customers.
In another note there price is to high but it still looks cool.
You are backing away, because that's exactly what you're doing. Failing to explain your position that ZOS are "money grabbers". I posted a perfectly reasonable response that refuted this claim and all you have done so far is call me a troll. That actually is the exact behavior of a troll. Also lol @ using the term "white knighting" unironically. Are you some 16 year old 4channer? lmao
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✭✭✭✭✭rotaugen454 wrote: »
It's all relative. If it were $1, most would be fine with that but others would ask if you felt suckered. BTW, a million $ really isn't that much. It's not like you will live off of that for 40 years unless you are really frugal.rotaugen454 wrote: »rotaugen454 wrote: »
$29.09rotaugen454 wrote: »bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »
Overpriced a tad maybe? But at least it's vanity. ZoS is nowhere near as bad as EA. Swtor locks tons of stuff to F2P players, gives too weak bonuses to DLC purchasers, and gives subscribers every bonus from here to Pluto. The only mmos that I think are close to as fair as ESO is GW2 and Tera.bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »i bought it, but only because i still had a bit of crowns from my recurring plus subscription, had i not had those, i would have let this one pass me by
Congrats ZOS, you pulled a TOTALLY EA move
Look, ill agree that this is not as bad as some of the Things EA does, however a 40$ mount.....This is bad, and something i could see EA doing in a heartbeat, so while its not as bad as the worst of EA, its definatly something they would do, as such, i stand by my comparison. It may not be P2W, but that doesnt really comfort me at all
Where do people keep getting $40 for the mount? Even buying full price 5500 crowns for $40, the mount is $29. If you bought the crowns on discount, it is considerably less.
Many people didnt get the crowns on discount,MANY people,and the mount is $30.00.
$30.00.
$40 for 5500 crowns is $.0072373 per crown. That is $29.09 for 4000 crowns.
ha $0.91 cents doesn't make or break someone with this purchase and something over $25 is an absurd asking price for anything that's not DLC...good for you if you want to buy into that, they're betting their prices on your purchase.
Even if you're a millionaire, don't you feel slightly suckered buying a flaming panther reskin for $30?
Umm,..I could live off it forever,living off only the interest. My needs are few.Cable TV,Internet,ESO,and rent.
(my rent is $216 a month for a roomy one bedroom)
The rent will never increase? I am a landlord (renting out two previous residences) and I increase the lease over time. Food? Electricity? Water? Health insurance (unless you want a HUGE risk)? Car? Ever getting married? Kids? (Kids are the most expensive thing you will ever have). The mount is cheap by comparison to real life."Get off my lawn!"0 -
Thornen✭✭✭✭✭rotaugen454 wrote: »rotaugen454 wrote: »
It's all relative. If it were $1, most would be fine with that but others would ask if you felt suckered. BTW, a million $ really isn't that much. It's not like you will live off of that for 40 years unless you are really frugal.rotaugen454 wrote: »rotaugen454 wrote: »
$29.09rotaugen454 wrote: »bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »
Overpriced a tad maybe? But at least it's vanity. ZoS is nowhere near as bad as EA. Swtor locks tons of stuff to F2P players, gives too weak bonuses to DLC purchasers, and gives subscribers every bonus from here to Pluto. The only mmos that I think are close to as fair as ESO is GW2 and Tera.bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »i bought it, but only because i still had a bit of crowns from my recurring plus subscription, had i not had those, i would have let this one pass me by
Congrats ZOS, you pulled a TOTALLY EA move
Look, ill agree that this is not as bad as some of the Things EA does, however a 40$ mount.....This is bad, and something i could see EA doing in a heartbeat, so while its not as bad as the worst of EA, its definatly something they would do, as such, i stand by my comparison. It may not be P2W, but that doesnt really comfort me at all
Where do people keep getting $40 for the mount? Even buying full price 5500 crowns for $40, the mount is $29. If you bought the crowns on discount, it is considerably less.
Many people didnt get the crowns on discount,MANY people,and the mount is $30.00.
$30.00.
$40 for 5500 crowns is $.0072373 per crown. That is $29.09 for 4000 crowns.
ha $0.91 cents doesn't make or break someone with this purchase and something over $25 is an absurd asking price for anything that's not DLC...good for you if you want to buy into that, they're betting their prices on your purchase.
Even if you're a millionaire, don't you feel slightly suckered buying a flaming panther reskin for $30?
Umm,..I could live off it forever,living off only the interest. My needs are few.Cable TV,Internet,ESO,and rent.
(my rent is $216 a month for a roomy one bedroom)
The rent will never increase? I am a landlord (renting out two previous residences) and I increase the lease over time. Food? Electricity? Water? Health insurance (unless you want a HUGE risk)? Car? Ever getting married? Kids? (Kids are the most expensive thing you will ever have). The mount is cheap by comparison to real life.
How can you compare a digital item that you don't even technically own to real life items...just lol2 -
dimensional✭✭✭✭✭
✭You're assuming that someone who has a million dollars will 1.) Stop working and/or 2.) not invest.
I have a job that will continue to pay the bills and rent but if you suddenly gave me a million it would definitively change my life in ways I couldn't even imagine. It is a lot of money for 99.9% of everyone on the planet.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Sorry.
The mounts are cool, and I considered buying one since I have enough ESO Plus Crowns, but I'd rather not see these mounts everywhere. It is more cool when they are rare and special items. The high price coupled with the limited offer makes the whole thing appropriate.
4000 Crowns is a good price.Edited by Elsonso on May 26, 2016 7:44PMXBox EU/NA:@ElsonsoJannus
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ZakuBeta✭✭✭Well......I did want this mount, but not anymore. It is not worth that much, not that any of the other were worth what they cost, but at least they were reasonable. This is robbery, extortion, or flat out price gouging, doesn't matter as I will not be spending that much for this, or any other mount.....ever. If crowns were at a 75% discount, then I would consider it, but they are not, so I won't.1
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✭✭dimensional wrote: »All businesses are greedy by that measure, then. How much is "needed" by the company for profit is a subjective perspective with no correct answer.
Price gouging is still price gouging.
Knowing people will want what you have very much,and setting the price so high that they will have to struggle to purchase it.
Kinda greedy.Even though it isnt needed,but is a prestige purchase.1 -
dimensional✭✭✭✭✭
✭dimensional wrote: »All businesses are greedy by that measure, then. How much is "needed" by the company for profit is a subjective perspective with no correct answer.
Price gouging is still price gouging.
Knowing people will want what you have very much,and setting the price so high that they will have to struggle to purchase it.
Kinda greedy.Even though it isnt needed,but is a prestige purchase.
This doesn't qualify as price gouging. That is when someone marks up the price of something by a huge amount because it is all of a sudden in high demand and can't be found elsewhere. This is just a general, high end price for an item that is not needed by anyone.3 -
Jultzy✭✭I can't see how any vanity mount can ever be a "prestige" mount. Prestige mounts are hard earned mounts. Not bought ones.Jultzy Altmer Sorcerer (AD)Narjiha Bosmer Nightblade (AD)Jules Yaká Breton Sorcerer (DC)1 -
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✭✭dimensional wrote: »dimensional wrote: »All businesses are greedy by that measure, then. How much is "needed" by the company for profit is a subjective perspective with no correct answer.
Price gouging is still price gouging.
Knowing people will want what you have very much,and setting the price so high that they will have to struggle to purchase it.
Kinda greedy.Even though it isnt needed,but is a prestige purchase.
This doesn't qualify as price gouging. That is when someone marks up the price of something by a huge amount because it is all of a sudden in high demand and can't be found elsewhere. This is just a general, high end price for an item that is not needed by anyone.
Kinda the same thing if you look at what you said.
They are pricing am item they know will be in high demand and cannot be bought anywhere else,and is only for a limited time.
And yes,it is just a high end priced item that is not needed by anyone.
Still stands though,as someone pricing an item extremely high due to the predicted demand.
It's an opinion that is debatable,for either side.0 -
dimensional✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, that isn't price gouging at all. It isn't an opinion, that's just an incorrect usage of the term price gouging.
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Bluepitbull13✭✭✭✭You guys do understand that you (the customer) have the power, if this mount is too expensive than don't buy it and if future unicorn mounts come out at 100,000 crown so what lmaol don't buy it. The only real problem is if this 4k crown mount was giving me an extra 2k dps to my parses or bigger heals. (pfft complaining about vanity cosmetic items gtfo) and hahahahahahahah to all the people that seem to believe that zeni isn't a business that's out to make a profit.PC-NA2 -
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✭They gotta make that money.
Hell, ZOS, make more undead themed mounts...and I will throw my cash at you.1 -
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✭✭How the hell did this thread make it to eight pages!? O.o
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Garldeen✭✭✭✭RedRoomGaming wrote: »Bloody disgusting play on your part zos, just proves once again you are money grabbers.
Where in particular did you get your business degree? Oops my bad you don't have one and I doubt you understand what it takes to run one.
I have a business degree, an MBA (and working on a business PhD) and own a business, as well as having set up several others - Does that mean I'm allowed an opinion on it? I agree it is a rip off. Should I return my degress and close down my company? There is more than one way to run a business - ZOS choose one route, not a route I would choose for mine. The pricing of items such as this strike me as profiteering, bordering on exploiting customers' loyalty.
Edited by Garldeen on May 26, 2016 8:01PM1 -
tennant94✭✭✭karldavy149b16_ESO wrote: »entitlement generation time ....
personally i love the game i have a sub so i basically save the crowns up
i also buy crowns on sale atleast 2 x 5k purchases every sale
i dont get where u think u have the right to complain about the pricing of something .
if u cant afford it so be it
if u dont think its value for money dont buy it
all the qq in this post drives me crazy that u all think u have the right to this item ... u dont if u cant afford it
i personally think the mount looks cool as hell and ive brought 1 for both my accounts
The qq is coming from people who can't afford it. You evidently are not in that situation, as you have bought two.Edited by tennant94 on May 26, 2016 8:03PM1 -
Argruna✭✭✭I'm standing in Mournhold watching the show offs pass by with their new shiny black senche. I looked at the crown store and was shocked to see that unlike any previous limited edition mount, this one cost 4,000. It kinda sparkles when it walks. Worth it?
I think I might have boughten it if it cost 2,500 like previous limited edition mounts. Would you pay 4,000 for a flying mount?
P.S. Congrats to all the proud owners of a $40 vanity item. =D
*sees price*
Wait, I'm gonna expand on this. To those that got the mount, congrats, you do you. Everyone's money situation is different and it's nice to have it to spend on something you enjoy.
There's also that Christopher Titus voice in my head though, that evil ***, going 'Now imagine if, on the last day, they did a 50% off discount? Now that wouldn't that be a kick to the head.Edited by Argruna on May 26, 2016 8:36PM4 -
Volkodav✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭dimensional wrote: »No, that isn't price gouging at all. It isn't an opinion, that's just an incorrect usage of the term price gouging.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_gouging
Im not on for this,dimensional.If you want to be right,fine.Push the issue,and let everyone read your link.
Arguing for the sake of argument isnt always interesting.
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✭✭It's a beast mount. Stupid money but pretty cool. Hopefully the funds raised will spill out into an epic dlc and not some crappy small zone that takes 3 mins to cross via blue senche. ZOS use it wisely please and reward your spending playerbase with proper content. DB will only occupy me for like 4-5hrs.PC Master Race
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PurifedBladez✭✭✭✭✭I can't even belive is 4000 crowns. Is it cool? Yes.. but it's a mount, I'd have a hard time paying $10 for it not because I'm hurting on money but, because I can't justify it lol.0
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✭✭I'm expecting a major glitch to be revealed about this mount that give it's owner ungodly powers just like the banker merchant did.
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✭✭PurifedBladez wrote: »I can't even belive is 4000 crowns. Is it cool? Yes.. but it's a mount, I'd have a hard time paying $10 for it not because I'm hurting on money but, because I can't justify it lol.
It's more than just $10.00.It's $29.09.
(I was corrected when I said it was $30.00)2 -
Xjcon✭✭✭✭✭RedRoomGaming wrote: »Bloody disgusting play on your part zos, just proves once again you are money grabbers.
Where in particular did you get your business degree? Oops my bad you don't have one and I doubt you understand what it takes to run one.
I have a business degree, an MBA (and working on a business PhD) and own a business, as well as having set up several others - Does that mean I'm allowed an opinion on it? I agree it is a rip off. Should I return my degress and close down my company? There is more than one way to run a business - ZOS choose one route, not a route I would choose for mine. The pricing of items such as this strike me as profiteering, bordering on exploiting customers' loyalty.
Yes you should return it and pick up a degree in charitable organization's (totaly a sarcastic comment). This mount is pure fluff and in no way does someone have an obligation to purchase it. If it's such a bad business decision to do these sorts of things, why did Blizzard make billions doing it?
If you don't agree with the price don't purchase it. I will be getting it tonight when I get home from work.Edited by Xjcon on May 26, 2016 8:14PMBriza Do'urdenx V16 Dunmer DK
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PurifedBladez✭✭✭✭✭PurifedBladez wrote: »I can't even belive is 4000 crowns. Is it cool? Yes.. but it's a mount, I'd have a hard time paying $10 for it not because I'm hurting on money but, because I can't justify it lol.
It's more than just $10.00.It's $29.09.
(I was corrected when I said it was $30.00)
I was just saying that even if it was $10 I still wouldn't buy it. The value of this thing is all in the eye of the beholder I guess.
And ZoS is just.. lol
Edited by PurifedBladez on May 26, 2016 8:19PM0 -
KrishakPanettier✭✭✭THE PRICE CLARITY:
At $40US you receive 5,500 Crowns last I checked. So the most this mount costs is $29.00US. If you have crowns from subscription or bought at 50% off sale, then much much lower.
The banker or mechant assistant at 5,000 crowns (nearly $40.00US) was a ridiculous price. I bought it for grinding purposes, Not sure I will purchase this mount. It is kewl.Edited by KrishakPanettier on May 26, 2016 8:22PMKrishak Kringle aka KrishakPanettier, Templar (PSN:KrishakPanettier)
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Garldeen✭✭✭✭RedRoomGaming wrote: »Bloody disgusting play on your part zos, just proves once again you are money grabbers.
Where in particular did you get your business degree? Oops my bad you don't have one and I doubt you understand what it takes to run one.
I have a business degree, an MBA (and working on a business PhD) and own a business, as well as having set up several others - Does that mean I'm allowed an opinion on it? I agree it is a rip off. Should I return my degress and close down my company? There is more than one way to run a business - ZOS choose one route, not a route I would choose for mine. The pricing of items such as this strike me as profiteering, bordering on exploiting customers' loyalty.
Yes you should return it and pick up a degree in charitable organization's (totaly a sarcastic comment). This mount is pure fluff and in no way does someone have an obligation to purchase it. If it's such a bad business decision to do these sorts of things, why did Blizzard make billions doing it?
If you don't agree with the price don't purchase it. I will be getting it tonight when I get home from work.
That's fair enough, I hope you enjoy your mount. It does look nice. Everyone is completely free to spend their money however like. It needs to be remembered that not all game players are based in 'wealthy' countries. While $40 may not be a massive amount the UK or the US, in relative terms it is a lot of money for some people.
Edited: Too late in the day to debate something I wouldn't get if it were half the price. To those who have it, enjoy.Edited by Garldeen on May 26, 2016 8:42PM0
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