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4,000 Crowns for new Senche Mount Too Much?
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GoodFella146✭✭✭✭✭I'm glad the new mount is 4000 crowns....
....so that less ppl have it.
Besides, I have no problem spending to support the games I love. Surely I can't be the only one who feels like this?2 -
RedRoomGaming✭✭✭RedRoomGaming wrote: »Bloody disgusting play on your part zos, just proves once again you are money grabbers.
Where in particular did you get your business degree? Oops my bad you don't have one and I doubt you understand what it takes to run one.
Oh sorry where is yours? They are putting it up that high because they know people will pay it. There you have money grabbers.PS4 Eu Server- Stampler - RedRoomGaming - V16
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✭Every business is a money grabber. That is the reason for the existence of commerce.1 -
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✭✭rotaugen454 wrote: »rotaugen454 wrote: »
$29.09rotaugen454 wrote: »bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »
Overpriced a tad maybe? But at least it's vanity. ZoS is nowhere near as bad as EA. Swtor locks tons of stuff to F2P players, gives too weak bonuses to DLC purchasers, and gives subscribers every bonus from here to Pluto. The only mmos that I think are close to as fair as ESO is GW2 and Tera.bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »i bought it, but only because i still had a bit of crowns from my recurring plus subscription, had i not had those, i would have let this one pass me by
Congrats ZOS, you pulled a TOTALLY EA move
Look, ill agree that this is not as bad as some of the Things EA does, however a 40$ mount.....This is bad, and something i could see EA doing in a heartbeat, so while its not as bad as the worst of EA, its definatly something they would do, as such, i stand by my comparison. It may not be P2W, but that doesnt really comfort me at all
Where do people keep getting $40 for the mount? Even buying full price 5500 crowns for $40, the mount is $29. If you bought the crowns on discount, it is considerably less.
Many people didnt get the crowns on discount,MANY people,and the mount is $30.00.
$30.00.
$40 for 5500 crowns is $.0072373 per crown. That is $29.09 for 4000 crowns.
ha $0.91 cents doesn't make or break someone with this purchase and something over $25 is an absurd asking price for anything that's not DLC...good for you if you want to buy into that, they're betting their prices on your purchase.
Even if you're a millionaire, don't you feel slightly suckered buying a flaming panther reskin for $30?Edited by waterfairy on May 26, 2016 7:08PM0 -
Whatzituyah✭✭✭✭Just to add unless I can galop with my own legs with a person close behind banging coconuts together your not making me pay 4000 crowns for a mount.
Also feel free to qoute that for your signature or something.Edited by Whatzituyah on May 26, 2016 7:12PMhttps://twitch.tv/whatzituyah2
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dimensional✭✭✭✭✭
✭rotaugen454 wrote: »rotaugen454 wrote: »
$29.09rotaugen454 wrote: »bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »
Overpriced a tad maybe? But at least it's vanity. ZoS is nowhere near as bad as EA. Swtor locks tons of stuff to F2P players, gives too weak bonuses to DLC purchasers, and gives subscribers every bonus from here to Pluto. The only mmos that I think are close to as fair as ESO is GW2 and Tera.bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »i bought it, but only because i still had a bit of crowns from my recurring plus subscription, had i not had those, i would have let this one pass me by
Congrats ZOS, you pulled a TOTALLY EA move
Look, ill agree that this is not as bad as some of the Things EA does, however a 40$ mount.....This is bad, and something i could see EA doing in a heartbeat, so while its not as bad as the worst of EA, its definatly something they would do, as such, i stand by my comparison. It may not be P2W, but that doesnt really comfort me at all
Where do people keep getting $40 for the mount? Even buying full price 5500 crowns for $40, the mount is $29. If you bought the crowns on discount, it is considerably less.
Many people didnt get the crowns on discount,MANY people,and the mount is $30.00.
$30.00.
$40 for 5500 crowns is $.0072373 per crown. That is $29.09 for 4000 crowns.
ha $0.91 cents doesn't make or break someone with this purchase and something over $25 is an absurd asking price for anything that's not DLC...good for you if you want to buy into that, they're banking their prices on your purchase.
Even if you're a millionaire, don't you feel slightly suckered buying a flaming panther reskin for $30?
If you buy it, then you obviously don't feel suckered. You feel that it is worth the value of the currency you spent to acquire it. Of course if you have buyer's remorse after the fact that's an entirely different psychological phenomenon.1 -
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✭✭rotaugen454 wrote: »
I've been in corporate finance for a quarter century. This is what I do all day.rotaugen454 wrote: »rotaugen454 wrote: »
$29.09rotaugen454 wrote: »bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »
Overpriced a tad maybe? But at least it's vanity. ZoS is nowhere near as bad as EA. Swtor locks tons of stuff to F2P players, gives too weak bonuses to DLC purchasers, and gives subscribers every bonus from here to Pluto. The only mmos that I think are close to as fair as ESO is GW2 and Tera.bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »i bought it, but only because i still had a bit of crowns from my recurring plus subscription, had i not had those, i would have let this one pass me by
Congrats ZOS, you pulled a TOTALLY EA move
Look, ill agree that this is not as bad as some of the Things EA does, however a 40$ mount.....This is bad, and something i could see EA doing in a heartbeat, so while its not as bad as the worst of EA, its definatly something they would do, as such, i stand by my comparison. It may not be P2W, but that doesnt really comfort me at all
Where do people keep getting $40 for the mount? Even buying full price 5500 crowns for $40, the mount is $29. If you bought the crowns on discount, it is considerably less.
Many people didnt get the crowns on discount,MANY people,and the mount is $30.00.
$30.00.
$40 for 5500 crowns is $.0072373 per crown. That is $29.09 for 4000 crowns.
So,.....you win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOOHOO!!!!!!!!!
XD
Cool.
A great profession. I bet it can get stressful a lot.Edited by Volkodav on May 26, 2016 7:09PM0 -
RedRoomGaming✭✭✭dimensional wrote: »Every business is a money grabber. That is the reason for the existence of commerce.
It doesn't matter anyway I see why you are here now. Every other comment is yours intentionally either having a crack or arguing so have a lovely day/evening where ever you are
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✭RedRoomGaming wrote: »dimensional wrote: »Every business is a money grabber. That is the reason for the existence of commerce.
It doesn't matter anyway I see why you are here now. Every other comment is yours intentionally either having a crack or arguing so have a lovely day/evening where ever you are
Spoken like someone who can't back up their own arguments with logic and reasoning and simply turns tail to avoid a debate which they know they will lose. Have a nice day 2 -
rotaugen454✭✭✭✭✭
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It's all relative. If it were $1, most would be fine with that but others would ask if you felt suckered. BTW, a million $ really isn't that much. It's not like you will live off of that for 40 years unless you are really frugal.rotaugen454 wrote: »rotaugen454 wrote: »
$29.09rotaugen454 wrote: »bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »
Overpriced a tad maybe? But at least it's vanity. ZoS is nowhere near as bad as EA. Swtor locks tons of stuff to F2P players, gives too weak bonuses to DLC purchasers, and gives subscribers every bonus from here to Pluto. The only mmos that I think are close to as fair as ESO is GW2 and Tera.bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »i bought it, but only because i still had a bit of crowns from my recurring plus subscription, had i not had those, i would have let this one pass me by
Congrats ZOS, you pulled a TOTALLY EA move
Look, ill agree that this is not as bad as some of the Things EA does, however a 40$ mount.....This is bad, and something i could see EA doing in a heartbeat, so while its not as bad as the worst of EA, its definatly something they would do, as such, i stand by my comparison. It may not be P2W, but that doesnt really comfort me at all
Where do people keep getting $40 for the mount? Even buying full price 5500 crowns for $40, the mount is $29. If you bought the crowns on discount, it is considerably less.
Many people didnt get the crowns on discount,MANY people,and the mount is $30.00.
$30.00.
$40 for 5500 crowns is $.0072373 per crown. That is $29.09 for 4000 crowns.
ha $0.91 cents doesn't make or break someone with this purchase and something over $25 is an absurd asking price for anything that's not DLC...good for you if you want to buy into that, they're betting their prices on your purchase.
Even if you're a millionaire, don't you feel slightly suckered buying a flaming panther reskin for $30?
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✭Shit, give me a million dollars and I'll tell you immediately how much I think it is. That is a life changing amount of money for 99.9% of any of us on the planet.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭GoodFella146 wrote: »I'm glad the new mount is 4000 crowns....
....so that less ppl have it.
Besides, I have no problem spending to support the games I love. Surely I can't be the only one who feels like this?
That is the ONLY good thing about the price @GoodFella146 it keeps it rare I game.
This is why I joking-but-not-joking suggested:
HA HA! funny, right?
But, I'm COMPLETELY Serious. Here's why:- Unicorns exist on Nirn
- They are VERY rare
- The high price of this item will keep it rare, if existent at ALL
- The question of "Has anyone ever seen one" is TOTALLY appropriate for the unicorn
- It would be a relatively quick mount to make
- If anyone ever bought it, ZOS would make the easiest $1K they ever made.
I just like the meta-game idea of people questioning their existence and maybe THINKING they saw one but wasn't sure. I think 100,000 Crowns is high enough that there probably isn't anyone that would be willing to shell out the money for it, but low enough that someone with a bunch of burnable cash might buy it for kicks and grins.
Thoughts?
Keeping items like these rare in the game is important... and the price does achieve that.
So I'm of two minds... My knee-jerk reaction is that it's too much. I don't think mounts should be this expensive. I think it's ridiculous to ask the customer base to pay this much for a mount.... BUT... it will keep it rare in game so that not everyone and their brother is riding around on flashy fun mounts.
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waterfairy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭dimensional wrote: »rotaugen454 wrote: »rotaugen454 wrote: »
$29.09rotaugen454 wrote: »bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »
Overpriced a tad maybe? But at least it's vanity. ZoS is nowhere near as bad as EA. Swtor locks tons of stuff to F2P players, gives too weak bonuses to DLC purchasers, and gives subscribers every bonus from here to Pluto. The only mmos that I think are close to as fair as ESO is GW2 and Tera.bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »i bought it, but only because i still had a bit of crowns from my recurring plus subscription, had i not had those, i would have let this one pass me by
Congrats ZOS, you pulled a TOTALLY EA move
Look, ill agree that this is not as bad as some of the Things EA does, however a 40$ mount.....This is bad, and something i could see EA doing in a heartbeat, so while its not as bad as the worst of EA, its definatly something they would do, as such, i stand by my comparison. It may not be P2W, but that doesnt really comfort me at all
Where do people keep getting $40 for the mount? Even buying full price 5500 crowns for $40, the mount is $29. If you bought the crowns on discount, it is considerably less.
Many people didnt get the crowns on discount,MANY people,and the mount is $30.00.
$30.00.
$40 for 5500 crowns is $.0072373 per crown. That is $29.09 for 4000 crowns.
ha $0.91 cents doesn't make or break someone with this purchase and something over $25 is an absurd asking price for anything that's not DLC...good for you if you want to buy into that, they're banking their prices on your purchase.
Even if you're a millionaire, don't you feel slightly suckered buying a flaming panther reskin for $30?
If you buy it, then you obviously don't feel suckered. You feel that it is worth the value of the currency you spent to acquire it. Of course if you have buyer's remorse after the fact that's an entirely different psychological phenomenon.
True. I try to analyze things beforehand so I don't get sold on something that will give me buyers remorse after. As cool as Ii think this mount is, I have the sense to stop myself before I despise myself (not literally).
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Julianos✭✭✭✭✭I wouldnt pay even 1k crown cuz i dont like those glowing magical items in game i like more realistic items and less magic.
Tho its look cool and prolly its awsome for those who loves glowing and shiney stuff.0 -
RedRoomGaming✭✭✭dimensional wrote: »RedRoomGaming wrote: »dimensional wrote: »Every business is a money grabber. That is the reason for the existence of commerce.
It doesn't matter anyway I see why you are here now. Every other comment is yours intentionally either having a crack or arguing so have a lovely day/evening where ever you are
Spoken like someone who can't back up their own arguments with logic and reasoning and simply turns tail to avoid a debate which they know they will lose. Have a nice day
No I just do not want to feed the troll. I do not understand your undying need for replies or justification to others why this is so high in price. If you agree with the price move on and let others have their say, no need to reply to basically everyone is there.PS4 Eu Server- Stampler - RedRoomGaming - V16
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Volkodav✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭rotaugen454 wrote: »
It's all relative. If it were $1, most would be fine with that but others would ask if you felt suckered. BTW, a million $ really isn't that much. It's not like you will live off of that for 40 years unless you are really frugal.rotaugen454 wrote: »rotaugen454 wrote: »
$29.09rotaugen454 wrote: »bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »
Overpriced a tad maybe? But at least it's vanity. ZoS is nowhere near as bad as EA. Swtor locks tons of stuff to F2P players, gives too weak bonuses to DLC purchasers, and gives subscribers every bonus from here to Pluto. The only mmos that I think are close to as fair as ESO is GW2 and Tera.bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »i bought it, but only because i still had a bit of crowns from my recurring plus subscription, had i not had those, i would have let this one pass me by
Congrats ZOS, you pulled a TOTALLY EA move
Look, ill agree that this is not as bad as some of the Things EA does, however a 40$ mount.....This is bad, and something i could see EA doing in a heartbeat, so while its not as bad as the worst of EA, its definatly something they would do, as such, i stand by my comparison. It may not be P2W, but that doesnt really comfort me at all
Where do people keep getting $40 for the mount? Even buying full price 5500 crowns for $40, the mount is $29. If you bought the crowns on discount, it is considerably less.
Many people didnt get the crowns on discount,MANY people,and the mount is $30.00.
$30.00.
$40 for 5500 crowns is $.0072373 per crown. That is $29.09 for 4000 crowns.
ha $0.91 cents doesn't make or break someone with this purchase and something over $25 is an absurd asking price for anything that's not DLC...good for you if you want to buy into that, they're betting their prices on your purchase.
Even if you're a millionaire, don't you feel slightly suckered buying a flaming panther reskin for $30?
Umm,..I could live off it forever,living off only the interest. My needs are few.Cable TV,Internet,ESO,and rent.
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dimensional✭✭✭✭✭
✭RedRoomGaming wrote: »dimensional wrote: »RedRoomGaming wrote: »dimensional wrote: »Every business is a money grabber. That is the reason for the existence of commerce.
It doesn't matter anyway I see why you are here now. Every other comment is yours intentionally either having a crack or arguing so have a lovely day/evening where ever you are
Spoken like someone who can't back up their own arguments with logic and reasoning and simply turns tail to avoid a debate which they know they will lose. Have a nice day
No I just do not want to feed the troll. I do not understand your undying need for replies or justification to others why this is so high in price. If you agree with the price move on and let others have their say, no need to reply to basically everyone is there.
Labeling someone who has an opposite view of yours as a "troll" is a desperate attempt to justify backing away from the debate and rationalize insane beliefs. If you disagree with the price, move on and let others have their say. No need to reply to basically everyone there is.Edited by dimensional on May 26, 2016 7:15PM2 -
Sigma957✭✭✭✭✭GoodFella146 wrote: »I'm glad the new mount is 4000 crowns....
....so that less ppl have it.
Besides, I have no problem spending to support the games I love. Surely I can't be the only one who feels like this?
Yeh I got it,, didn't bother me it was 4000 crowns.0 -
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rotaugen454 wrote: »bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »
Overpriced a tad maybe? But at least it's vanity. ZoS is nowhere near as bad as EA. Swtor locks tons of stuff to F2P players, gives too weak bonuses to DLC purchasers, and gives subscribers every bonus from here to Pluto. The only mmos that I think are close to as fair as ESO is GW2 and Tera.bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »i bought it, but only because i still had a bit of crowns from my recurring plus subscription, had i not had those, i would have let this one pass me by
Congrats ZOS, you pulled a TOTALLY EA move
Look, ill agree that this is not as bad as some of the Things EA does, however a 40$ mount.....This is bad, and something i could see EA doing in a heartbeat, so while its not as bad as the worst of EA, its definatly something they would do, as such, i stand by my comparison. It may not be P2W, but that doesnt really comfort me at all
Where do people keep getting $40 for the mount? Even buying full price 5500 crowns for $40, the mount is $29. If you bought the crowns on discount, it is considerably less.
The standard price of $15 for a subscription gives you 1,500 crowns. So it's a 100 crown for $1 ratio. =D
but its not tho
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Acharnor✭✭✭✭That's a pretty pile of crowns to spend for a mount but I'm sure they will sell like hot cakes. Sounds like a lot but if you got a whack of crowns burning a hole in your treasure chest go for it.
And I sure don't see this as greed. This is a non required for gameplay item and is all about fun. Greed would be putting the squeeze on you to buy an item that otherwise would negatively impact your ability to play.
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RedRoomGaming✭✭✭dimensional wrote: »RedRoomGaming wrote: »dimensional wrote: »RedRoomGaming wrote: »dimensional wrote: »Every business is a money grabber. That is the reason for the existence of commerce.
It doesn't matter anyway I see why you are here now. Every other comment is yours intentionally either having a crack or arguing so have a lovely day/evening where ever you are
Spoken like someone who can't back up their own arguments with logic and reasoning and simply turns tail to avoid a debate which they know they will lose. Have a nice day
No I just do not want to feed the troll. I do not understand your undying need for replies or justification to others why this is so high in price. If you agree with the price move on and let others have their say, no need to reply to basically everyone is there.
Labeling someone who has an opposite view of yours as a "troll" is a desperate attempt to justify backing away from the debate and rationalize insane beliefs. If you disagree with the price, move on and let others have their say. No need to reply to basically everyone there is.
Okay I am not replying to anyone but you there for I am leaving everyone have their say. You believe that I am backing away all you want I however have a life and am now enjoying it by not sitting on the internet white knighting for a company that obviously cares nothing for it's customers.
In another note there price is to high but it still looks cool.PS4 Eu Server- Stampler - RedRoomGaming - V16
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AlcastClass Representativeleepalmer95 wrote: »That mount costs more than DLC.
Likely because zos put more effort into it than it's DLC.
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✭RedRoomGaming wrote: »dimensional wrote: »RedRoomGaming wrote: »dimensional wrote: »RedRoomGaming wrote: »dimensional wrote: »Every business is a money grabber. That is the reason for the existence of commerce.
It doesn't matter anyway I see why you are here now. Every other comment is yours intentionally either having a crack or arguing so have a lovely day/evening where ever you are
Spoken like someone who can't back up their own arguments with logic and reasoning and simply turns tail to avoid a debate which they know they will lose. Have a nice day
No I just do not want to feed the troll. I do not understand your undying need for replies or justification to others why this is so high in price. If you agree with the price move on and let others have their say, no need to reply to basically everyone is there.
Labeling someone who has an opposite view of yours as a "troll" is a desperate attempt to justify backing away from the debate and rationalize insane beliefs. If you disagree with the price, move on and let others have their say. No need to reply to basically everyone there is.
Okay I am not replying to anyone but you there for I am leaving everyone have their say. You believe that I am backing away all you want I however have a life and am now enjoying it by not sitting on the internet white knighting for a company that obviously cares nothing for it's customers.
In another note there price is to high but it still looks cool.
You are backing away, because that's exactly what you're doing. Failing to explain your position that ZOS are "money grabbers". I posted a perfectly reasonable response that refuted this claim and all you have done so far is call me a troll. That actually is the exact behavior of a troll. Also lol @ using the term "white knighting" unironically. Are you some 16 year old 4channer? lmao0 -
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✭✭And I sure don't see this as greed. This is a non required for gameplay item and is all about fun. Greed would be putting the squeeze on you to buy an item that otherwise would negatively impact your ability to play.
I'm not affected by this as I've made up my mind not to buy but I love a good debate/discussion ha soooo-
"Greed: a selfish and excessive desire for more of something (as money) than is needed"
I'd say this is greedy.
Edited by waterfairy on May 26, 2016 7:23PM1 -
dimensional✭✭✭✭✭
✭All businesses are greedy by that measure, then. How much is "needed" by the company for profit is a subjective perspective with no correct answer.Edited by dimensional on May 26, 2016 7:24PM1
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