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Crouching attack.
SanSan
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I thought whenever you crouch and are hidden, you will do bonus damage.
Is that true or is that only with regular attacks?
Whenever i crouch (hidden) and i use my skills, 50% of the time I do bonus damage.
I don't really understand crouching/stealth damage bonuses.
Is that true or is that only with regular attacks?
Whenever i crouch (hidden) and i use my skills, 50% of the time I do bonus damage.
I don't really understand crouching/stealth damage bonuses.
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GreenSoup2HoT✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Stealth bonus damage does exist. Any attack you do from stealth will have additional damage, any attack regardless of damage will gain the same amount of stealth bonus damage added. This is what i have been able to observe.
Stealth (Hidden) also guarantee's a critical hit and a longer stun duration.
You also cannot go hidden if you have recently attacked an enemy. This is very important to note when trying to escape an enemy in pvp.PS4 NA DC0 -
Didaco✭✭✭✭
Are you attacking from behind?I thought whenever you crouch and are hidden, you will do bonus damage.
Is that true or is that only with regular attacks?
Whenever i crouch (hidden) and i use my skills, 50% of the time I do bonus damage.
I don't really understand crouching/stealth damage bonuses.1 -
SanSan✭✭✭✭✭
Are you attacking from behind?I thought whenever you crouch and are hidden, you will do bonus damage.
Is that true or is that only with regular attacks?
Whenever i crouch (hidden) and i use my skills, 50% of the time I do bonus damage.
I don't really understand crouching/stealth damage bonuses.
Not always. I just crouch and when i am hidden, i strike,0 -
kojou✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭It makes a difference if you hit from behind. I can't remember exactly how much, but with "concealed weapon" it is significant.Playing since beta...0 -
SanSan✭✭✭✭✭ztyhurstub17_ESO wrote: »It makes a difference if you hit from behind. I can't remember exactly how much, but with "concealed weapon" it is significant.
Yeah. I tried crouching and attacking head on but i didnt get a boost. If im hidden and attack from behind it works.0 -
Lynx7386✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Stealth bonus only works from behind, even with ranged attacksPS4 / NA
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DeanTheCat✭✭✭✭✭Meow?
I originally posted this on my guild's forums. Figured I'd repost this here.Dean the Cat
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✭A question, Does it work with magic?PS4 NA
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DeanTheCat✭✭✭✭✭RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »A question, Does it work with magic?
If it scales of Spell Crit or is an ultimate? No.
Sneak attacks are the exclusive domain of non-ultimate abilities that scales off Weapon Critical.Dean the Cat
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Lynx7386✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Not exactly, I'm pretty sure that the magicka version of surprise attack (concealed weapon?) Gets the sneak attack bonus tooPS4 / NA
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RAGUNAnoOne✭✭✭✭✭
✭Not exactly, I'm pretty sure that the magicka version of surprise attack (concealed weapon?) Gets the sneak attack bonus too
If what @DeanTheCat said is true it does not get sneak attack damage only adds a stun if you are undetectedPS4 NA
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DeanTheCat✭✭✭✭✭@Lynx7386 @RAGUNAnoOne
Concealed Weapon already has a stun built into the ability, which means it will stun at any angle, as long as you are in sneak or invisible. There is no bonus damage from using Concealed Weapon from sneak, other then the 10% bonus from the Master Assassin passive.
The idea that only abilities that scale off weapon crit will get the sneak bonus is due to a long standing TES ideology that the light and sound from casting a spell would give away your position and alert the enemy, thus giving them time to react, nullifying the sneak bonus.Dean the Cat
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WhoThenNow7✭✭✭Just to be clear.. Are we talking about a specific class? Or does this work with anything?0 -
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✭DeanTheCat wrote: »@Lynx7386 @RAGUNAnoOne
Concealed Weapon already has a stun built into the ability, which means it will stun at any angle, as long as you are in sneak or invisible. There is no bonus damage from using Concealed Weapon from sneak, other then the 10% bonus from the Master Assassin passive.
The idea that only abilities that scale off weapon crit will get the sneak bonus is due to a long standing TES ideology that the light and sound from casting a spell would give away your position and alert the enemy, thus giving them time to react, nullifying the sneak bonus.
LOL realistically how can this logic be applied if the spell is cast right at your back or a lightning bolt? besides the DB has a mage that kills enemies before they can reactPS4 NA
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✭Stealth bonus only works from behind, even with ranged attacks
Sry, I don't understand this. I have khajiit nightblade with a bow, and in a moment I enter stealth, I see on my char stats that automatically is raised my weapon damage and it's a significant increase. With all passives, build for maximum damage and power spell, I kill by 1 (sorcerers) - 2 (knights) shots most standard npcs from stealth, with snipe from ourtemost distance. First shot does about 24-25k damage on mob in Cyrodiil, when stealth is broken it's significantly less damage. I didn't notice that hitting enemy from stealth, when they stand either forward or turned back to me, actually make any difference.PC EU (PL): 14 characters. ESO player since 06.08.2015. Farkas finest quote: "Some people don't think I'm smart. Those people get my fist. But you, I like."0 -
DeanTheCat✭✭✭✭✭RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »DeanTheCat wrote: »@Lynx7386 @RAGUNAnoOne
Concealed Weapon already has a stun built into the ability, which means it will stun at any angle, as long as you are in sneak or invisible. There is no bonus damage from using Concealed Weapon from sneak, other then the 10% bonus from the Master Assassin passive.
The idea that only abilities that scale off weapon crit will get the sneak bonus is due to a long standing TES ideology that the light and sound from casting a spell would give away your position and alert the enemy, thus giving them time to react, nullifying the sneak bonus.
LOL realistically how can this logic be applied if the spell is cast right at your back or a lightning bolt? besides the DB has a mage that kills enemies before they can react
Hey, I'm not the one who designed the system. It's just how it has been in every TES game, and that's the reasoning that was originally put forth in previous TES titles about why spells cannot get stealth bonus.Stealth bonus only works from behind, even with ranged attacks
Sry, I don't understand this. I have khajiit nightblade with a bow, and in a moment I enter stealth, I see on my char stats that automatically is raised my weapon damage and it's a significant increase. With all passives, build for maximum damage and power spell, I kill by 1 (sorcerers) - 2 (knights) shots most standard npcs from stealth, with snipe from ourtemost distance. First shot does about 24-25k damage on mob in Cyrodiil, when stealth is broken it's significantly less damage. I didn't notice that hitting enemy from stealth, when they stand either forward or turned back to me, actually make any difference.
That's due to the Master Assassin passive and your stealthy racial. Your racial ability boosts your Weapon Damage stat by 10% while in stealth and the Master Assassin passive also boosts Weapon Damage by 10% when you are in stealth. This results in a +20% to Weapon Damage while you are invisible or sneaking.
Also, as you are sniping, you are engaging the target outside the conventional 35m range (All abilities have boosted range in Cyrodiil). As ESO considers 35m to be the maximum engagement range, you'll still get the sneak bonus as you are not in the "Cone" where sneak attacks are prohibited. You will not be able to replicate this if engaging a player or if you get closer to the target.Dean the Cat
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