Why is the content so easy?

martinhpb16_ESO · May 2016

Lysette wrote: »

You have to realize, that you are not the target group anymore - it is like in real world with seniors, they are not the target group, they have done all, they have bought all, it is not much to expect from them anymore, they are irrelevant for the progress of the business - they have done their part, and now they are just ballast, left to cease - you cannot expect that a lot is done for this group, a bit maybe, but all other efforts go into making the game comfortable for those, who will stay for a long time and will need a long time to complete the content, but it does not have to be too hard for them, or they will leave. They are the target group now, and all effort goes into pleasing them.

You lay your cards out on the table and don't realise how selfish you sound. For me your comments are increasingly losing any credibility. You make stuff up and you are suddenly the insider in Zenis marketing plan, even though what you spout is nothing like what Zeni puts out.

Nyx2 · May 2016

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I am explaining to you why they say they did what they did. Sure I like the changes but that's beside the point. Noone is trying to "shut you up". Feel free to express your opinions just as we are. While I agree with ZOS it is fact that they did explain why they did this. I know you dont like the epxlination but I have no say down at ZOS. This is what they are doing not what I am doing. My opinion means nothing to them. Id be surprised outside of a post being reported they even read anything either of us wrote.

Also what they are doing being "wrong" is only your opinion. Its not wrong to them.

Obviously they do read them. That's why they said we won't get a respec despite the major changes DB will do to abilities, making expensive changes on many characters absolutely necessary. Because the last time they gave a respec, many people whined for some reason. Now with people criticising that announcement as well I'm not sure what they will actually do but they certainly read these threads.

And no, providing no content for end game players with hard achieved gear is not bad as a matter of opinion. It's factually bad and that is why you're standing in way of reason. Saying "that's your opinion" is a wonderful way of spreading ignorance when facts are present. You have everything and people who seek challenge are not allowed because "they exclude people from content" when in truth they exclude themselves / (they don't have to own everything).

Nyx2 wrote: »

If someone refuses to learn simple things like blocking or dodge rolling it has nothing to do with "git gud". They don't even play the game if they're ignorant of it's most basic mechanics. Until I played spindleclutch with one friend all these things have been completely obsolete and pointless. It was just walk around tamriel, peng, peng, all dead. A big story build up to an epic boss battle that is over in just 15 seconds. That's utter garbage.

Volkodav · May 2016

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I am explaining to you why they say they did what they did. Sure I like the changes but that's beside the point. Noone is trying to "shut you up". Feel free to express your opinions just as we are. While I agree with ZOS it is fact that they did explain why they did this. I know you dont like the epxlination but I have no say down at ZOS. This is what they are doing not what I am doing. My opinion means nothing to them. Id be surprised outside of a post being reported they even read anything either of us wrote.

lol...we are the customers, so they will listen to us if we express our opinion on their decission. But if lots of people defend them or even just repeat what they think why ZOS does it they will just be happy. Maybe without even recognizing the problems.

Well if they are listening right now I love the new changes. IC is worth going to now for a lot more people.

It will be a kind of pvp-area, that's good. But you will not be able to kill groups with the bosses bc they got nerfed aswell. That's bad imo...was so much fun to whipe entire groups with them
And they will kill the last remaining challenging 4-men-groupconten ingame which is bad for the game.

Its only bad for the game in your opinion. I dont share it.

Yes, it's so good to have content that when you finish the last content you can't say that you accomplished anything at all since you just facerolled the entire content with no challenge whatsoever. These people that like it that way aren't gamers, they're zombies that instead of craving human flesh have the need to whine about everything being too hard until you can go through completely naked, no weapons or skills and completely alone as that's the way they want to play while everyone else got to find a real game that doesn't spoon feed you and hold your hand every single step of the way while pretty much killing everything for you.

Why be so abusive?
Just because others do not share your views doesnt mean you have to belittle them and their thoughts.It doesnt make you look more good at all. You even insult people who arent a part of this conversation.Why? What does it gain you but to look brutish and lacking in the ability to argue at a decent level of intelligence.
Can you reply respectfully? People might listen better.

Because asking nicely has led people asking for harder content nowhere at all, it's all just gone down the drain at this point so we that do want harder content are just fed up with it. So at this point it just doesn't really make much difference wether we're nice or not, the last few dungeons are getting the faceroll treatment, same with IC which was the last remaining fun area for PvE in open world content because the whiners have been listened to yet again.

I would pay to get a server without all the nerfs in it, that would be so much fun. The garbage we got as open world and dungeons these days can't even compare.

I do understand your ire here. It's easier to understand now what you wish you could have in the game.I dont know why they havent made more content for those who desire harder challenges.Honestly,it wouldnt be that hard to do it.Just add,with each DLC,a few extra dungeons and a good sized arena for PvP and duels,that would be for players to sink their teeth into.
I'm sorry you and others you know feel this frustrated.
IC should never have been nerfed.I couldnt play there,as I am not that good a player,but I wouldnt want it any other way.

martinhpb16_ESO · May 2016

Destruent wrote: »

I also don't get, why most of the people in here are against content fo all kinds of players? What's wrong with easy, medium, hard and really hard 4-men content? It's ok for us to have only one or two hard and really hard dungeons (i call vWGT/vICP hard/realy hard here...in fact they aren't atm), but to have nothing is really bad.

I just wait for the day ZOS realizes they maybe need content in all difficulties. Then I'll say:

You have to realize, that you are not the target group anymore

to you. Will be a great day

They just don't get it and never will. Its always the same in these threads, in whatever game. These people are not willing to concede any ground and allow content for players who want a challenge. Its the anithesis of the elitist.

The sad thing is that they themselves, often by admission, have no interest in this type of gaming and are perfectly happy for those that do to have nothing. They want everything there own way.

And actually they are the minority on this thread.

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO · May 2016

Volkodav wrote: »

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I am explaining to you why they say they did what they did. Sure I like the changes but that's beside the point. Noone is trying to "shut you up". Feel free to express your opinions just as we are. While I agree with ZOS it is fact that they did explain why they did this. I know you dont like the epxlination but I have no say down at ZOS. This is what they are doing not what I am doing. My opinion means nothing to them. Id be surprised outside of a post being reported they even read anything either of us wrote.

lol...we are the customers, so they will listen to us if we express our opinion on their decission. But if lots of people defend them or even just repeat what they think why ZOS does it they will just be happy. Maybe without even recognizing the problems.

Well if they are listening right now I love the new changes. IC is worth going to now for a lot more people.

It will be a kind of pvp-area, that's good. But you will not be able to kill groups with the bosses bc they got nerfed aswell. That's bad imo...was so much fun to whipe entire groups with them
And they will kill the last remaining challenging 4-men-groupconten ingame which is bad for the game.

Its only bad for the game in your opinion. I dont share it.

Yes, it's so good to have content that when you finish the last content you can't say that you accomplished anything at all since you just facerolled the entire content with no challenge whatsoever. These people that like it that way aren't gamers, they're zombies that instead of craving human flesh have the need to whine about everything being too hard until you can go through completely naked, no weapons or skills and completely alone as that's the way they want to play while everyone else got to find a real game that doesn't spoon feed you and hold your hand every single step of the way while pretty much killing everything for you.

Why be so abusive?
Just because others do not share your views doesnt mean you have to belittle them and their thoughts.It doesnt make you look more good at all. You even insult people who arent a part of this conversation.Why? What does it gain you but to look brutish and lacking in the ability to argue at a decent level of intelligence.
Can you reply respectfully? People might listen better.

Because asking nicely has led people asking for harder content nowhere at all, it's all just gone down the drain at this point so we that do want harder content are just fed up with it. So at this point it just doesn't really make much difference wether we're nice or not, the last few dungeons are getting the faceroll treatment, same with IC which was the last remaining fun area for PvE in open world content because the whiners have been listened to yet again.

I would pay to get a server without all the nerfs in it, that would be so much fun. The garbage we got as open world and dungeons these days can't even compare.

I do understand your ire here. It's easier to understand now what you wish you could have in the game.I dont know why they havent made more content for those who desire harder challenges.Honestly,it wouldnt be that hard to do it.Just add,with each DLC,a few extra dungeons and a good sized arena for PvP and duels,that would be for players to sink t heir teeth into.
I'm sorry you and others you know feel this frustrated.
IC should never have been nerfed.I couldnt play there,as I am not that good a player,but I wouldnt want it any other way.

Yeah, I really do wish that there would be areas for everyone, and I don't want to be frustrated at the game being this way and then take it out on the forums, but with zenimax doing things the way they do that's all we can really do these days. I'm sorry if I do hurt anyone's feelings with what I do say, but these feelings have been just getting stronger over the 2.5 years that I've played the game, seeing it going from a place where everyone had some content that they liked to everything just being super easy and no fun for the people that want to have a challenge.

Volkodav · May 2016

martinhpb16_ESO wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

I also don't get, why most of the people in here are against content fo all kinds of players? What's wrong with easy, medium, hard and really hard 4-men content? It's ok for us to have only one or two hard and really hard dungeons (i call vWGT/vICP hard/realy hard here...in fact they aren't atm), but to have nothing is really bad.

I just wait for the day ZOS realizes they maybe need content in all difficulties. Then I'll say:

You have to realize, that you are not the target group anymore

to you. Will be a great day

They just don't get it and never will. Its always the same in these threads, in whatever game. These people are not willing to concede any ground and allow content for players who want a challenge. Its the anithesis of the elitist.

The sad thing is that they themselves, often by admission, have no interest in this type of gaming and are perfectly happy for those that do to have nothing. They want everything there own way.

And actually they are the minority on this thread.

I am one of those not really into harder challenges than are already ingame.I prefer the content be neither nerfed or buffed up.
However,I cant think why there isnt added,aside from what is already ingame,new content with harder challenges,as I posted above. I dont think a lot of people understand.I think they believe when you guys talk about it that you want to take away their content that already is there,which I dont think you do.

martinhpb16_ESO · May 2016

Lysette wrote: »

I play very slow paced, I will not get any near to do those kind of stuff in years nor would I be interested in it. I am here to see Tamriel in all it's glory, more and more regions of Tamriel - Tamriel unlimited - what is the name of the game. I will always be the target group, because I am not consuming the content in a rush. I am one of those for whom they make this game, because we are so slow, that we will need years to play through just part of the content. and we will buy most of the crown store content in those years. The ideal costumer.

And there it is again. You don't even do this content and have no intention to do so. Also under the illusion that you are the only type of customer that matters. Go play second life or something.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · May 2016

Nyx2 wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I am explaining to you why they say they did what they did. Sure I like the changes but that's beside the point. Noone is trying to "shut you up". Feel free to express your opinions just as we are. While I agree with ZOS it is fact that they did explain why they did this. I know you dont like the epxlination but I have no say down at ZOS. This is what they are doing not what I am doing. My opinion means nothing to them. Id be surprised outside of a post being reported they even read anything either of us wrote.

Also what they are doing being "wrong" is only your opinion. Its not wrong to them.

Obviously they do read them. That's why they said we won't get a respec despite the major changes DB will do to abilities, making expensive changes on many characters absolutely necessary. Because the last time they gave a respec, many people whined for some reason. Now with people criticising that announcement as well I'm not sure what they will actually do but they certainly read these threads.

And no, providing no content for end game players with hard achieved gear is not bad as a matter of opinion. It's factually bad and that is why you're standing in way of reason. Saying "that's your opinion" is a wonderful way of spreading ignorance when facts are present. You have everything and people who seek challenge are not allowed because "they exclude people from content" when in truth they exclude themselves / (they don't have to own everything).

Nyx2 wrote: »

If someone refuses to learn simple things like blocking or dodge rolling it has nothing to do with "git gud". They don't even play the game if they're ignorant of it's most basic mechanics. Until I played spindleclutch with one friend all these things have been completely obsolete and pointless. It was just walk around tamriel, peng, peng, all dead. A big story build up to an epic boss battle that is over in just 15 seconds. That's utter garbage.

They just gave you guys a new trial. Its so difficult very few have beaten it. Why arent you doing that? We are talking about a couple of dungeons here.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · May 2016

They only said we wont get a forced respec. They never said we wont get a free or almost free one.

Volkodav · May 2016

martinhpb16_ESO wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

I play very slow paced, I will not get any near to do those kind of stuff in years nor would I be interested in it. I am here to see Tamriel in all it's glory, more and more regions of Tamriel - Tamriel unlimited - what is the name of the game. I will always be the target group, because I am not consuming the content in a rush. I am one of those for whom they make this game, because we are so slow, that we will need years to play through just part of the content. and we will buy most of the crown store content in those years. The ideal costumer.

And there it is again. You don't even do this content and have no intention to do so. Also under the illusion that you are the only type of customer that matters. Go play second life or something.

(I love Second Life.I have since 2003 spent more money in that world than anywhere else online.Amazing place,but it isnt a game you can play.)

martinhpb16_ESO · May 2016

Destruent wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I am explaining to you why they say they did what they did. Sure I like the changes but that's beside the point. Noone is trying to "shut you up". Feel free to express your opinions just as we are. While I agree with ZOS it is fact that they did explain why they did this. I know you dont like the epxlination but I have no say down at ZOS. This is what they are doing not what I am doing. My opinion means nothing to them. Id be surprised outside of a post being reported they even read anything either of us wrote.

lol...we are the customers, so they will listen to us if we express our opinion on their decission. But if lots of people defend them or even just repeat what they think why ZOS does it they will just be happy. Maybe without even recognizing the problems.

Especially when these defenders dont even play dungeons!

newtinmpls · May 2016

Lysette wrote: »

ZOS is not going that route. In an interview they stated, that they watch the data closely of how many people are doing the content, how many get through it and how many abandon it. And based on this data they decide about the difficulty of the content, because they want more people to be able to complete it and not just power players. So don't expect that there will be changes, which make it harder, it is most likely not happening.

I think you bring up a good point.

I am not a "power" gamer, I don't min-max and I will never be "top of the line" as DPS. That style of play is not fun for me.

I get that other people look on "I died 15 times trying this trial" (or dungeon or boss or whatever) as a challenge to get better, I just do something else because dying a lot while I figure it out is generally not fun for me.

So if I ever get White Gold Tower as a random pledge, I dump it. I've pretty much written it off as far as my play goes.

I do dislike the nerfs to dolmens - I remember when no single character no matter how buffed could take the final boss and I miss that.

I think originally PvP was intended as the "endgame" in terms of since you would be fighting other intelligent creative people it would not, could not get as stale as "the same old AI" in any given dungeon.

But PvP quickly got out of hand in terms of exploits and pretty much is not supported (I'm primarily PvE and I can see this).

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO · May 2016

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Nyx2 wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I am explaining to you why they say they did what they did. Sure I like the changes but that's beside the point. Noone is trying to "shut you up". Feel free to express your opinions just as we are. While I agree with ZOS it is fact that they did explain why they did this. I know you dont like the epxlination but I have no say down at ZOS. This is what they are doing not what I am doing. My opinion means nothing to them. Id be surprised outside of a post being reported they even read anything either of us wrote.

Also what they are doing being "wrong" is only your opinion. Its not wrong to them.

Obviously they do read them. That's why they said we won't get a respec despite the major changes DB will do to abilities, making expensive changes on many characters absolutely necessary. Because the last time they gave a respec, many people whined for some reason. Now with people criticising that announcement as well I'm not sure what they will actually do but they certainly read these threads.

And no, providing no content for end game players with hard achieved gear is not bad as a matter of opinion. It's factually bad and that is why you're standing in way of reason. Saying "that's your opinion" is a wonderful way of spreading ignorance when facts are present. You have everything and people who seek challenge are not allowed because "they exclude people from content" when in truth they exclude themselves / (they don't have to own everything).

Nyx2 wrote: »

If someone refuses to learn simple things like blocking or dodge rolling it has nothing to do with "git gud". They don't even play the game if they're ignorant of it's most basic mechanics. Until I played spindleclutch with one friend all these things have been completely obsolete and pointless. It was just walk around tamriel, peng, peng, all dead. A big story build up to an epic boss battle that is over in just 15 seconds. That's utter garbage.

They just gave you guys a new trial. Its so difficult very few have beaten it. Why arent you doing that? We are talking about a couple of dungeons here.

You just don't get it, we like having the new trial yes, but tell me, would you be happy with first having quite a lot of content that you liked doing and then all of a sudden the devs redesign the most of the game so you're only getting one area that you like in an entire game and the rest of the 99% of the game is catering to another crowd?

That's the problem here, and if you can't see it being a problem, you just don't need to reply anymore.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · May 2016

PVP always sounds good but when you actually do it you realize its who can exploit the best. Nothing to do with skill and everything to do with how nice your rig is and how fast your connection is to the server. Plus knowing all the latest cheats and FoTM builds etc. That is just not for me. I play this to relax not to use a slide rule to figure out what exactly is best to get the next 5% dps increase.

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO · May 2016

Volkodav wrote: »

martinhpb16_ESO wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

I play very slow paced, I will not get any near to do those kind of stuff in years nor would I be interested in it. I am here to see Tamriel in all it's glory, more and more regions of Tamriel - Tamriel unlimited - what is the name of the game. I will always be the target group, because I am not consuming the content in a rush. I am one of those for whom they make this game, because we are so slow, that we will need years to play through just part of the content. and we will buy most of the crown store content in those years. The ideal costumer.

And there it is again. You don't even do this content and have no intention to do so. Also under the illusion that you are the only type of customer that matters. Go play second life or something.

(I love Second Life.I have since 2003 spent more money in that world than anywhere else online.Amazing place,but it isnt a game you can play.)

Yeah, that's pretty much how we feel right now, we'd love to spend money on the game, but it just feels like a game that we can really play anymore, just because it feels like we're being hand held through the entire thing.

newtinmpls · May 2016

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

PVP always sounds good but when you actually do it you realize its who can exploit the best. Nothing to do with skill and everything to do with how nice your rig is and how fast your connection is to the server. Plus knowing all the latest cheats and FoTM builds etc. That is just not for me. I play this to relax not to use a slide rule to figure out what exactly is best to get the next 5% dps increase.

I agree that's how it is.

I just think that it could have been an endlessly self-creating and challenging end-game.

Or maybe, rereading your post, that is a silly dream.

Frawr · May 2016

I would love to know what percentage of ZOS's target audience actually prefers it to be so utterly easy.

I would also like to understand why we have to have 2 ezmode versions of these dungeons?

The casuals have the normal modes. The entire point (or so I thought) of the vet versions was to present a challenge to more experienced players. When did this go out the window?

It seems as though they are simply getting carried away with internal metrics (aka adjusting spreadsheets) than they are with creating something for everyone.

Volkodav · May 2016

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Nyx2 wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I am explaining to you why they say they did what they did. Sure I like the changes but that's beside the point. Noone is trying to "shut you up". Feel free to express your opinions just as we are. While I agree with ZOS it is fact that they did explain why they did this. I know you dont like the epxlination but I have no say down at ZOS. This is what they are doing not what I am doing. My opinion means nothing to them. Id be surprised outside of a post being reported they even read anything either of us wrote.

Also what they are doing being "wrong" is only your opinion. Its not wrong to them.

Obviously they do read them. That's why they said we won't get a respec despite the major changes DB will do to abilities, making expensive changes on many characters absolutely necessary. Because the last time they gave a respec, many people whined for some reason. Now with people criticising that announcement as well I'm not sure what they will actually do but they certainly read these threads.

And no, providing no content for end game players with hard achieved gear is not bad as a matter of opinion. It's factually bad and that is why you're standing in way of reason. Saying "that's your opinion" is a wonderful way of spreading ignorance when facts are present. You have everything and people who seek challenge are not allowed because "they exclude people from content" when in truth they exclude themselves / (they don't have to own everything).

Nyx2 wrote: »

If someone refuses to learn simple things like blocking or dodge rolling it has nothing to do with "git gud". They don't even play the game if they're ignorant of it's most basic mechanics. Until I played spindleclutch with one friend all these things have been completely obsolete and pointless. It was just walk around tamriel, peng, peng, all dead. A big story build up to an epic boss battle that is over in just 15 seconds. That's utter garbage.

They just gave you guys a new trial. Its so difficult very few have beaten it. Why arent you doing that? We are talking about a couple of dungeons here.

You just don't get it, we like having the new trial yes, but tell me, would you be happy with first having quite a lot of content that you liked doing and then all of a sudden the devs redesign the most of the game so you're only getting one area that you like in an entire game and the rest of the 99% of the game is catering to another crowd?

That's the problem here, and if you can't see it being a problem, you just don't need to reply anymore.

Thing is,..while it is totally understandable that you arent going to be happy with it as it is,it isnt going to change.
When you began playing was it before the nerfs? Or after.
If after,why would you be upset that it is catering to the general public,rather than those wanting deeper and harder challenges as the game went on.Did ESO give you to believe that the content would be progressively harder,advertise it thus?
Dont be mad at me,please.I am just curious,really.
Sometimes we demand so much more than what is offered.

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO · May 2016

Volkodav wrote: »

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Nyx2 wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I am explaining to you why they say they did what they did. Sure I like the changes but that's beside the point. Noone is trying to "shut you up". Feel free to express your opinions just as we are. While I agree with ZOS it is fact that they did explain why they did this. I know you dont like the epxlination but I have no say down at ZOS. This is what they are doing not what I am doing. My opinion means nothing to them. Id be surprised outside of a post being reported they even read anything either of us wrote.

Also what they are doing being "wrong" is only your opinion. Its not wrong to them.

Obviously they do read them. That's why they said we won't get a respec despite the major changes DB will do to abilities, making expensive changes on many characters absolutely necessary. Because the last time they gave a respec, many people whined for some reason. Now with people criticising that announcement as well I'm not sure what they will actually do but they certainly read these threads.

And no, providing no content for end game players with hard achieved gear is not bad as a matter of opinion. It's factually bad and that is why you're standing in way of reason. Saying "that's your opinion" is a wonderful way of spreading ignorance when facts are present. You have everything and people who seek challenge are not allowed because "they exclude people from content" when in truth they exclude themselves / (they don't have to own everything).

Nyx2 wrote: »

If someone refuses to learn simple things like blocking or dodge rolling it has nothing to do with "git gud". They don't even play the game if they're ignorant of it's most basic mechanics. Until I played spindleclutch with one friend all these things have been completely obsolete and pointless. It was just walk around tamriel, peng, peng, all dead. A big story build up to an epic boss battle that is over in just 15 seconds. That's utter garbage.

They just gave you guys a new trial. Its so difficult very few have beaten it. Why arent you doing that? We are talking about a couple of dungeons here.

You just don't get it, we like having the new trial yes, but tell me, would you be happy with first having quite a lot of content that you liked doing and then all of a sudden the devs redesign the most of the game so you're only getting one area that you like in an entire game and the rest of the 99% of the game is catering to another crowd?

That's the problem here, and if you can't see it being a problem, you just don't need to reply anymore.

Thing is,..while it is totally understandable that you arent going to be happy with it as it is,it isnt going to change.
When you began playing was it before the nerfs? Or after.
If after,why would you be upset that it is catering to the general public,rather than those wanting deeper and harder challenges as the game went on.Did ESO give you to believe that the content would be progressively harder,advertise it thus?
Dont be mad at me,please.I am just curious,really.
Sometimes we demand so much more than what is offered.

I was here all the way from beta, and have played actively since release for collectors edition people april 2014. So I've been here and seen it all go from a game I loved and played 6-12 hours a day to a game that's too easy for me and that I only really go online to chat with friends because I can 1-2 shot most adds in open world and group dungeons are no longer group dungeons these days.

WrathOfRegicide · May 2016

What ZoS should do is some sort of instancing for Very Easy, Easy, Normal, Hard, Very Hard with each difficulty you gain more exp and better loot. Without this sort of mechanic the game will get stale fast because its just way to easy to do dungeons, level up, etc.

Volkodav · May 2016

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Nyx2 wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I am explaining to you why they say they did what they did. Sure I like the changes but that's beside the point. Noone is trying to "shut you up". Feel free to express your opinions just as we are. While I agree with ZOS it is fact that they did explain why they did this. I know you dont like the epxlination but I have no say down at ZOS. This is what they are doing not what I am doing. My opinion means nothing to them. Id be surprised outside of a post being reported they even read anything either of us wrote.

Also what they are doing being "wrong" is only your opinion. Its not wrong to them.

Obviously they do read them. That's why they said we won't get a respec despite the major changes DB will do to abilities, making expensive changes on many characters absolutely necessary. Because the last time they gave a respec, many people whined for some reason. Now with people criticising that announcement as well I'm not sure what they will actually do but they certainly read these threads.

And no, providing no content for end game players with hard achieved gear is not bad as a matter of opinion. It's factually bad and that is why you're standing in way of reason. Saying "that's your opinion" is a wonderful way of spreading ignorance when facts are present. You have everything and people who seek challenge are not allowed because "they exclude people from content" when in truth they exclude themselves / (they don't have to own everything).

Nyx2 wrote: »

If someone refuses to learn simple things like blocking or dodge rolling it has nothing to do with "git gud". They don't even play the game if they're ignorant of it's most basic mechanics. Until I played spindleclutch with one friend all these things have been completely obsolete and pointless. It was just walk around tamriel, peng, peng, all dead. A big story build up to an epic boss battle that is over in just 15 seconds. That's utter garbage.

They just gave you guys a new trial. Its so difficult very few have beaten it. Why arent you doing that? We are talking about a couple of dungeons here.

You just don't get it, we like having the new trial yes, but tell me, would you be happy with first having quite a lot of content that you liked doing and then all of a sudden the devs redesign the most of the game so you're only getting one area that you like in an entire game and the rest of the 99% of the game is catering to another crowd?

That's the problem here, and if you can't see it being a problem, you just don't need to reply anymore.

Thing is,..while it is totally understandable that you arent going to be happy with it as it is,it isnt going to change.
When you began playing was it before the nerfs? Or after.
If after,why would you be upset that it is catering to the general public,rather than those wanting deeper and harder challenges as the game went on.Did ESO give you to believe that the content would be progressively harder,advertise it thus?
Dont be mad at me,please.I am just curious,really.
Sometimes we demand so much more than what is offered.

I was here all the way from beta, and have played actively since release for collectors edition people april 2014. So I've been here and seen it all go from a game I loved and played 6-12 hours a day to a game that's too easy for me and that I only really go online to chat with friends because I can 1-2 shot most adds in open world and group dungeons are no longer group dungeons these days.

I'm also a beta baby.Cut my teeth on the game when it was first in training.

It is true they nerfed those places.I still dont know why all the nerfing happened. Mind you,I like kicking Doshia's arse now,but its only a revenge thing between me and her.
I actually did like her better when I had to return for her when I was a couple of levels higher. Hehe.

Nova Sky · May 2016

All I know is, the first time I fought Mannimarco, it was a helluva battle — one that I only emerged victorious from with, literally, less than a sliver of life left. This was in mid- to late 2014.

The second time I fought Mannimarco with another character — one who *wasn't* using Champion Points, either — I steamrolled him in less than three minutes. This was in April 2016.

Perhaps some of the change can be attributed to the fact that I know more now than I did then regarding game mechanics, builds and whatnot. But part of me also believes ZOS has reduced the difficulty of many PvE quests, particularly those related to the main storyline. Why? Well, that's fodder for a whole 'nother discussion.

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO · May 2016

Volkodav wrote: »

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Nyx2 wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I am explaining to you why they say they did what they did. Sure I like the changes but that's beside the point. Noone is trying to "shut you up". Feel free to express your opinions just as we are. While I agree with ZOS it is fact that they did explain why they did this. I know you dont like the epxlination but I have no say down at ZOS. This is what they are doing not what I am doing. My opinion means nothing to them. Id be surprised outside of a post being reported they even read anything either of us wrote.

Also what they are doing being "wrong" is only your opinion. Its not wrong to them.

Obviously they do read them. That's why they said we won't get a respec despite the major changes DB will do to abilities, making expensive changes on many characters absolutely necessary. Because the last time they gave a respec, many people whined for some reason. Now with people criticising that announcement as well I'm not sure what they will actually do but they certainly read these threads.

And no, providing no content for end game players with hard achieved gear is not bad as a matter of opinion. It's factually bad and that is why you're standing in way of reason. Saying "that's your opinion" is a wonderful way of spreading ignorance when facts are present. You have everything and people who seek challenge are not allowed because "they exclude people from content" when in truth they exclude themselves / (they don't have to own everything).

Nyx2 wrote: »

If someone refuses to learn simple things like blocking or dodge rolling it has nothing to do with "git gud". They don't even play the game if they're ignorant of it's most basic mechanics. Until I played spindleclutch with one friend all these things have been completely obsolete and pointless. It was just walk around tamriel, peng, peng, all dead. A big story build up to an epic boss battle that is over in just 15 seconds. That's utter garbage.

They just gave you guys a new trial. Its so difficult very few have beaten it. Why arent you doing that? We are talking about a couple of dungeons here.

You just don't get it, we like having the new trial yes, but tell me, would you be happy with first having quite a lot of content that you liked doing and then all of a sudden the devs redesign the most of the game so you're only getting one area that you like in an entire game and the rest of the 99% of the game is catering to another crowd?

That's the problem here, and if you can't see it being a problem, you just don't need to reply anymore.

Thing is,..while it is totally understandable that you arent going to be happy with it as it is,it isnt going to change.
When you began playing was it before the nerfs? Or after.
If after,why would you be upset that it is catering to the general public,rather than those wanting deeper and harder challenges as the game went on.Did ESO give you to believe that the content would be progressively harder,advertise it thus?
Dont be mad at me,please.I am just curious,really.
Sometimes we demand so much more than what is offered.

I was here all the way from beta, and have played actively since release for collectors edition people april 2014. So I've been here and seen it all go from a game I loved and played 6-12 hours a day to a game that's too easy for me and that I only really go online to chat with friends because I can 1-2 shot most adds in open world and group dungeons are no longer group dungeons these days.

I'm also a beta baby.Cut my teeth on the game when it was first in training.
It is true they nerfed those places.I still dont know why all the nerfing happened. Mind you,I like kicking Doshia's arse now,but its only a revenge thing between me and her.
I actually did like her better when I had to return for her when I was a couple of levels higher. Hehe.

Oh yeah, Doshia used to be a lot of fun and was quite sad when I fought Doshia and Balreth on my alt that I made recently, they used to be a lot of fun to fight, with the alt I just felt like was that it? No sense of accomplishment or anything when they died.

Volkodav · May 2016

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Nyx2 wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I am explaining to you why they say they did what they did. Sure I like the changes but that's beside the point. Noone is trying to "shut you up". Feel free to express your opinions just as we are. While I agree with ZOS it is fact that they did explain why they did this. I know you dont like the epxlination but I have no say down at ZOS. This is what they are doing not what I am doing. My opinion means nothing to them. Id be surprised outside of a post being reported they even read anything either of us wrote.

Also what they are doing being "wrong" is only your opinion. Its not wrong to them.

Obviously they do read them. That's why they said we won't get a respec despite the major changes DB will do to abilities, making expensive changes on many characters absolutely necessary. Because the last time they gave a respec, many people whined for some reason. Now with people criticising that announcement as well I'm not sure what they will actually do but they certainly read these threads.

And no, providing no content for end game players with hard achieved gear is not bad as a matter of opinion. It's factually bad and that is why you're standing in way of reason. Saying "that's your opinion" is a wonderful way of spreading ignorance when facts are present. You have everything and people who seek challenge are not allowed because "they exclude people from content" when in truth they exclude themselves / (they don't have to own everything).

Nyx2 wrote: »

If someone refuses to learn simple things like blocking or dodge rolling it has nothing to do with "git gud". They don't even play the game if they're ignorant of it's most basic mechanics. Until I played spindleclutch with one friend all these things have been completely obsolete and pointless. It was just walk around tamriel, peng, peng, all dead. A big story build up to an epic boss battle that is over in just 15 seconds. That's utter garbage.

They just gave you guys a new trial. Its so difficult very few have beaten it. Why arent you doing that? We are talking about a couple of dungeons here.

You just don't get it, we like having the new trial yes, but tell me, would you be happy with first having quite a lot of content that you liked doing and then all of a sudden the devs redesign the most of the game so you're only getting one area that you like in an entire game and the rest of the 99% of the game is catering to another crowd?

That's the problem here, and if you can't see it being a problem, you just don't need to reply anymore.

Thing is,..while it is totally understandable that you arent going to be happy with it as it is,it isnt going to change.
When you began playing was it before the nerfs? Or after.
If after,why would you be upset that it is catering to the general public,rather than those wanting deeper and harder challenges as the game went on.Did ESO give you to believe that the content would be progressively harder,advertise it thus?
Dont be mad at me,please.I am just curious,really.
Sometimes we demand so much more than what is offered.

I was here all the way from beta, and have played actively since release for collectors edition people april 2014. So I've been here and seen it all go from a game I loved and played 6-12 hours a day to a game that's too easy for me and that I only really go online to chat with friends because I can 1-2 shot most adds in open world and group dungeons are no longer group dungeons these days.

I'm also a beta baby.Cut my teeth on the game when it was first in training.
It is true they nerfed those places.I still dont know why all the nerfing happened. Mind you,I like kicking Doshia's arse now,but its only a revenge thing between me and her.
I actually did like her better when I had to return for her when I was a couple of levels higher. Hehe.

Oh yeah, Doshia used to be a lot of fun and was quite sad when I fought Doshia and Balreth on my alt that I made recently, they used to be a lot of fun to fight, with the alt I just felt like was that it? No sense of accomplishment or anything when they died.

Oh,and that round of skeletons in the main quest? Where you find Mannimarco and have to kill all of them? It used to just rip my tail up,but now they're as easy as pie.

Magdalina · May 2016

Volkodav wrote: »

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Nyx2 wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I am explaining to you why they say they did what they did. Sure I like the changes but that's beside the point. Noone is trying to "shut you up". Feel free to express your opinions just as we are. While I agree with ZOS it is fact that they did explain why they did this. I know you dont like the epxlination but I have no say down at ZOS. This is what they are doing not what I am doing. My opinion means nothing to them. Id be surprised outside of a post being reported they even read anything either of us wrote.

Also what they are doing being "wrong" is only your opinion. Its not wrong to them.

Obviously they do read them. That's why they said we won't get a respec despite the major changes DB will do to abilities, making expensive changes on many characters absolutely necessary. Because the last time they gave a respec, many people whined for some reason. Now with people criticising that announcement as well I'm not sure what they will actually do but they certainly read these threads.

And no, providing no content for end game players with hard achieved gear is not bad as a matter of opinion. It's factually bad and that is why you're standing in way of reason. Saying "that's your opinion" is a wonderful way of spreading ignorance when facts are present. You have everything and people who seek challenge are not allowed because "they exclude people from content" when in truth they exclude themselves / (they don't have to own everything).

Nyx2 wrote: »

If someone refuses to learn simple things like blocking or dodge rolling it has nothing to do with "git gud". They don't even play the game if they're ignorant of it's most basic mechanics. Until I played spindleclutch with one friend all these things have been completely obsolete and pointless. It was just walk around tamriel, peng, peng, all dead. A big story build up to an epic boss battle that is over in just 15 seconds. That's utter garbage.

They just gave you guys a new trial. Its so difficult very few have beaten it. Why arent you doing that? We are talking about a couple of dungeons here.

You just don't get it, we like having the new trial yes, but tell me, would you be happy with first having quite a lot of content that you liked doing and then all of a sudden the devs redesign the most of the game so you're only getting one area that you like in an entire game and the rest of the 99% of the game is catering to another crowd?

That's the problem here, and if you can't see it being a problem, you just don't need to reply anymore.

Thing is,..while it is totally understandable that you arent going to be happy with it as it is,it isnt going to change.
When you began playing was it before the nerfs? Or after.
If after,why would you be upset that it is catering to the general public,rather than those wanting deeper and harder challenges as the game went on.Did ESO give you to believe that the content would be progressively harder,advertise it thus?
Dont be mad at me,please.I am just curious,really.
Sometimes we demand so much more than what is offered.

I was here all the way from beta, and have played actively since release for collectors edition people april 2014. So I've been here and seen it all go from a game I loved and played 6-12 hours a day to a game that's too easy for me and that I only really go online to chat with friends because I can 1-2 shot most adds in open world and group dungeons are no longer group dungeons these days.

I'm also a beta baby.Cut my teeth on the game when it was first in training.
It is true they nerfed those places.I still dont know why all the nerfing happened. Mind you,I like kicking Doshia's arse now,but its only a revenge thing between me and her.
I actually did like her better when I had to return for her when I was a couple of levels higher. Hehe.

Oh yeah, Doshia used to be a lot of fun and was quite sad when I fought Doshia and Balreth on my alt that I made recently, they used to be a lot of fun to fight, with the alt I just felt like was that it? No sense of accomplishment or anything when they died.

Oh,and that round of skeletons in the main quest? Where you find Mannimarco and have to kill all of them? It used to just rip my tail up,but now they're as easy as pie.

Omg that's actually one main quest I remember! I remember doing it for my first time ever...I died so much my armor all broke up, been there for hours haha...was tempted to port out and try again a few levels later(it didn't scale back then) but then I finally made it and omg did I feel good

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Nyx2 wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I am explaining to you why they say they did what they did. Sure I like the changes but that's beside the point. Noone is trying to "shut you up". Feel free to express your opinions just as we are. While I agree with ZOS it is fact that they did explain why they did this. I know you dont like the epxlination but I have no say down at ZOS. This is what they are doing not what I am doing. My opinion means nothing to them. Id be surprised outside of a post being reported they even read anything either of us wrote.

Also what they are doing being "wrong" is only your opinion. Its not wrong to them.

Obviously they do read them. That's why they said we won't get a respec despite the major changes DB will do to abilities, making expensive changes on many characters absolutely necessary. Because the last time they gave a respec, many people whined for some reason. Now with people criticising that announcement as well I'm not sure what they will actually do but they certainly read these threads.

And no, providing no content for end game players with hard achieved gear is not bad as a matter of opinion. It's factually bad and that is why you're standing in way of reason. Saying "that's your opinion" is a wonderful way of spreading ignorance when facts are present. You have everything and people who seek challenge are not allowed because "they exclude people from content" when in truth they exclude themselves / (they don't have to own everything).

Nyx2 wrote: »

If someone refuses to learn simple things like blocking or dodge rolling it has nothing to do with "git gud". They don't even play the game if they're ignorant of it's most basic mechanics. Until I played spindleclutch with one friend all these things have been completely obsolete and pointless. It was just walk around tamriel, peng, peng, all dead. A big story build up to an epic boss battle that is over in just 15 seconds. That's utter garbage.

They just gave you guys a new trial. Its so difficult very few have beaten it. Why arent you doing that? We are talking about a couple of dungeons here.

Which part of "12 man content=/=smallscale(aka 4 man) pve content" seems so baffling?

Volkodav · May 2016

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cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO · May 2016

Volkodav wrote: »

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Nyx2 wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I am explaining to you why they say they did what they did. Sure I like the changes but that's beside the point. Noone is trying to "shut you up". Feel free to express your opinions just as we are. While I agree with ZOS it is fact that they did explain why they did this. I know you dont like the epxlination but I have no say down at ZOS. This is what they are doing not what I am doing. My opinion means nothing to them. Id be surprised outside of a post being reported they even read anything either of us wrote.

Also what they are doing being "wrong" is only your opinion. Its not wrong to them.

Obviously they do read them. That's why they said we won't get a respec despite the major changes DB will do to abilities, making expensive changes on many characters absolutely necessary. Because the last time they gave a respec, many people whined for some reason. Now with people criticising that announcement as well I'm not sure what they will actually do but they certainly read these threads.

And no, providing no content for end game players with hard achieved gear is not bad as a matter of opinion. It's factually bad and that is why you're standing in way of reason. Saying "that's your opinion" is a wonderful way of spreading ignorance when facts are present. You have everything and people who seek challenge are not allowed because "they exclude people from content" when in truth they exclude themselves / (they don't have to own everything).

Nyx2 wrote: »

If someone refuses to learn simple things like blocking or dodge rolling it has nothing to do with "git gud". They don't even play the game if they're ignorant of it's most basic mechanics. Until I played spindleclutch with one friend all these things have been completely obsolete and pointless. It was just walk around tamriel, peng, peng, all dead. A big story build up to an epic boss battle that is over in just 15 seconds. That's utter garbage.

They just gave you guys a new trial. Its so difficult very few have beaten it. Why arent you doing that? We are talking about a couple of dungeons here.

You just don't get it, we like having the new trial yes, but tell me, would you be happy with first having quite a lot of content that you liked doing and then all of a sudden the devs redesign the most of the game so you're only getting one area that you like in an entire game and the rest of the 99% of the game is catering to another crowd?

That's the problem here, and if you can't see it being a problem, you just don't need to reply anymore.

Thing is,..while it is totally understandable that you arent going to be happy with it as it is,it isnt going to change.
When you began playing was it before the nerfs? Or after.
If after,why would you be upset that it is catering to the general public,rather than those wanting deeper and harder challenges as the game went on.Did ESO give you to believe that the content would be progressively harder,advertise it thus?
Dont be mad at me,please.I am just curious,really.
Sometimes we demand so much more than what is offered.

I was here all the way from beta, and have played actively since release for collectors edition people april 2014. So I've been here and seen it all go from a game I loved and played 6-12 hours a day to a game that's too easy for me and that I only really go online to chat with friends because I can 1-2 shot most adds in open world and group dungeons are no longer group dungeons these days.

I'm also a beta baby.Cut my teeth on the game when it was first in training.
It is true they nerfed those places.I still dont know why all the nerfing happened. Mind you,I like kicking Doshia's arse now,but its only a revenge thing between me and her.
I actually did like her better when I had to return for her when I was a couple of levels higher. Hehe.

Oh yeah, Doshia used to be a lot of fun and was quite sad when I fought Doshia and Balreth on my alt that I made recently, they used to be a lot of fun to fight, with the alt I just felt like was that it? No sense of accomplishment or anything when they died.

Oh,and that round of skeletons in the main quest? Where you find Mannimarco and have to kill all of them? It used to just rip my tail up,but now they're as easy as pie.

Oh yeah, that one too. They all used to be very fun to do. Same with many of the world bosses and dolmens back then too, it was really fun just taking 2-3 people and team up on them to take them out. Nowadays it just feels like a solo game as there's no need to team up for anything anymore

No real community going at all, only things you see these days are LFG gold pledge and that's pretty much it, noone talks or anything, it's just do that and then part ways.

Volkodav · May 2016

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Nyx2 wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I am explaining to you why they say they did what they did. Sure I like the changes but that's beside the point. Noone is trying to "shut you up". Feel free to express your opinions just as we are. While I agree with ZOS it is fact that they did explain why they did this. I know you dont like the epxlination but I have no say down at ZOS. This is what they are doing not what I am doing. My opinion means nothing to them. Id be surprised outside of a post being reported they even read anything either of us wrote.

Also what they are doing being "wrong" is only your opinion. Its not wrong to them.

Obviously they do read them. That's why they said we won't get a respec despite the major changes DB will do to abilities, making expensive changes on many characters absolutely necessary. Because the last time they gave a respec, many people whined for some reason. Now with people criticising that announcement as well I'm not sure what they will actually do but they certainly read these threads.

And no, providing no content for end game players with hard achieved gear is not bad as a matter of opinion. It's factually bad and that is why you're standing in way of reason. Saying "that's your opinion" is a wonderful way of spreading ignorance when facts are present. You have everything and people who seek challenge are not allowed because "they exclude people from content" when in truth they exclude themselves / (they don't have to own everything).

Nyx2 wrote: »

If someone refuses to learn simple things like blocking or dodge rolling it has nothing to do with "git gud". They don't even play the game if they're ignorant of it's most basic mechanics. Until I played spindleclutch with one friend all these things have been completely obsolete and pointless. It was just walk around tamriel, peng, peng, all dead. A big story build up to an epic boss battle that is over in just 15 seconds. That's utter garbage.

They just gave you guys a new trial. Its so difficult very few have beaten it. Why arent you doing that? We are talking about a couple of dungeons here.

You just don't get it, we like having the new trial yes, but tell me, would you be happy with first having quite a lot of content that you liked doing and then all of a sudden the devs redesign the most of the game so you're only getting one area that you like in an entire game and the rest of the 99% of the game is catering to another crowd?

That's the problem here, and if you can't see it being a problem, you just don't need to reply anymore.

Thing is,..while it is totally understandable that you arent going to be happy with it as it is,it isnt going to change.
When you began playing was it before the nerfs? Or after.
If after,why would you be upset that it is catering to the general public,rather than those wanting deeper and harder challenges as the game went on.Did ESO give you to believe that the content would be progressively harder,advertise it thus?
Dont be mad at me,please.I am just curious,really.
Sometimes we demand so much more than what is offered.

I was here all the way from beta, and have played actively since release for collectors edition people april 2014. So I've been here and seen it all go from a game I loved and played 6-12 hours a day to a game that's too easy for me and that I only really go online to chat with friends because I can 1-2 shot most adds in open world and group dungeons are no longer group dungeons these days.

I'm also a beta baby.Cut my teeth on the game when it was first in training.
It is true they nerfed those places.I still dont know why all the nerfing happened. Mind you,I like kicking Doshia's arse now,but its only a revenge thing between me and her.
I actually did like her better when I had to return for her when I was a couple of levels higher. Hehe.

Oh yeah, Doshia used to be a lot of fun and was quite sad when I fought Doshia and Balreth on my alt that I made recently, they used to be a lot of fun to fight, with the alt I just felt like was that it? No sense of accomplishment or anything when they died.

Oh,and that round of skeletons in the main quest? Where you find Mannimarco and have to kill all of them? It used to just rip my tail up,but now they're as easy as pie.

Oh yeah, that one too. They all used to be very fun to do. Same with many of the world bosses and dolmens back then too, it was really fun just taking 2-3 people and team up on them to take them out. Nowadays it just feels like a solo game as there's no need to team up for anything anymore
No real community going at all, only things you see these days are LFG gold pledge and that's pretty much it, noone talks or anything, it's just do that and then part ways.

Actually,this is rather true,in that when I go into a delve,.someone might run up beside me and fight with me.Never saying word or asking me to group.When we're done,they just leave.OR,..they get me deep into a dungeon and decide to just leave.I get stuck alone with a whole lot of enemies to kill and no one to help.

Lysette · May 2016

martinhpb16_ESO wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

I play very slow paced, I will not get any near to do those kind of stuff in years nor would I be interested in it. I am here to see Tamriel in all it's glory, more and more regions of Tamriel - Tamriel unlimited - what is the name of the game. I will always be the target group, because I am not consuming the content in a rush. I am one of those for whom they make this game, because we are so slow, that we will need years to play through just part of the content. and we will buy most of the crown store content in those years. The ideal costumer.

And there it is again. You don't even do this content and have no intention to do so. Also under the illusion that you are the only type of customer that matters. Go play second life or something.

I play second life - and you are a hateful person and insulting. It is not that I would not want to do that content, it is that I do not have the time to do it, because I have responsibilities in life, which limit the time, which I can spend on games. And ESO is not the only one, I play. With this said, I will no longer listen to you, welcome to my ignore list.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · May 2016

Hmm so you got better at playing then went back did low level content and was able to beat it easily? Hows that not normal? What it sounds to me like is 6-12 hours a day playing has you burned out on the game.