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Do you think ZOS should eliminate animation cancelling?
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MacCait✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes get rid of itIf we all want a game with balance... then YES.
Everyone can learn to animation cancel... but it always feels like an unintended glitch. Not everyone will know how to do it at first and it isn't self explanatory. It came about through accidental discovery and then players teaching other players. Also if it is not balanced acroos all classes, that is also a factor.
I think it is great that this game strives for balance where many games do not. So, if we are striving for balance, then they should at some point implement a way to stop animation canceling1 -
Amorpho✭✭✭✭No let it stayAbsolutely not! It brings depth and complexity to combat, making skill quite an important factor in a fightThe Gaming Rev
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Destruent✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No let it stayFunny how some suggest to implement global cooldowns on abilities in the game
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EsoRecon✭✭✭✭✭No let it stayDo what you want in PvE. In PvP it is simply unfair.
You know what. Life isn't fair. Animation canceling separates good players from the bad. It adds a layer of skill in an already easy game.Xbox One [ NA ]
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Strider_Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭No let it stayAnimation canceling is what makes the combat of this game enjoyable. Without it, the combat would feel too slow paced.3 -
SantaOrc✭✭✭No let it stayIt is to much efford to fix it. They would have to rework to much, which would bring bugs or other problems.
"Please don't fix it" means the same like "please don't break combat" in this case.0 -
EsoRecon✭✭✭✭✭No let it stayStrider_Roshin wrote: »Animation canceling is what makes the combat of this game enjoyable. Without it, the combat would feel too slow paced.
We seem to agree on everything...
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Destruent✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No let it stayGiles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »
The thing is, there are already general cooldowns ingame. One for abilities, one for weapon attacks, one for bash, one for ultimates...Noobplar2 -
KanedaSyndrome✭✭✭✭Yes get rid of itEliminate it, but let us chain attacks/actions, and let our character execute those attacks/actions in a fluid motion, a motion that would be faster than if we performed these things in a discrete manner.
There should still be the prioritisation that we currently have, such as a block would break the current ability/action chain, but not instantly, but in a fluid manner. So you may be in the middle of a swing with your sword, no, you can't block in the split of a second in this situation, you'll have to wait until you can pull your sword back and then use block.
All I'm saying is that I think we can get rid of animation cancelling with out sacrificing the fluid combat we currently enjoy.
But this is all an academic discussion as it'll probably never be removed now that ZoS is set on it, and is balancing the game around it.KanedaSyndrome's Suggestions For Game Improvements
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Annra✭✭✭✭✭Yes get rid of itStrider_Roshin wrote: »Animation canceling is what makes the combat of this game enjoyable. Without it, the combat would feel too slow paced.
There is no combat with animation canceling. It means instant death for me.0 -
BucFanJKE✭✭✭Yes get rid of itThey should get rid of it because not every player knows how to do it and it creates an unfair balance to the game.
While many could see this as a LTP issue, not everyone even knows this exists (not everyone is on the forums). It seems like it was unintended, but ZOS said screw it, too much hassle to fix.1 -
Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes get rid of itI understand the complaints against it and I also understand if it was removed , it would feel clunky for a lot of people use to it now . Personally ai like the feel of weaving abilities .0 -
Destruent✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No let it stayThey should get rid of it because not every player knows how to do it and it creates an unfair balance to the game.
While many could see this as a LTP issue, not everyone even knows this exists (not everyone is on the forums). It seems like it was unintended, but ZOS said screw it, too much hassle to fix.
A better way to fix this would be to implement the basics of animation cancelling into the tutorial.Noobplar2 -
BucFanJKE✭✭✭Yes get rid of itThey should get rid of it because not every player knows how to do it and it creates an unfair balance to the game.
While many could see this as a LTP issue, not everyone even knows this exists (not everyone is on the forums). It seems like it was unintended, but ZOS said screw it, too much hassle to fix.
A better way to fix this would be to implement the basics of animation cancelling into the tutorial.
I would be okay with that. Make them practice a light, medium and heavy weave before they can get out of the prison. ZOS would never do it though.0 -
Annra✭✭✭✭✭Yes get rid of itStrider_Roshin wrote: »Animation canceling is what makes the combat of this game enjoyable. Without it, the combat would feel too slow paced.
There is no combat with animation canceling. It means instant death for me.
[snip]
Learn to play? There is no time to react if someone attacks me with animation canceling. "Combat" lasts under one second.
[edited to remove quote]Edited by ZOS_Icy on March 14, 2026 6:35PM0 -
Destruent✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No let it stayStrider_Roshin wrote: »Animation canceling is what makes the combat of this game enjoyable. Without it, the combat would feel too slow paced.
There is no combat with animation canceling. It means instant death for me.
[snip]
Learn to play? There is no time to react if someone attacks me with animation canceling. "Combat" lasts under one second.
get gear with impen, keep buffs up, maybe get some more HP, set CPs accordingly, mabe walk with a group. All these things can help you to survive.
[edited to remove quote]Edited by ZOS_Icy on March 14, 2026 6:35PMNoobplar3 -
Annra✭✭✭✭✭Yes get rid of itStrider_Roshin wrote: »Animation canceling is what makes the combat of this game enjoyable. Without it, the combat would feel too slow paced.
There is no combat with animation canceling. It means instant death for me.
[snip]
Learn to play? There is no time to react if someone attacks me with animation canceling. "Combat" lasts under one second.
get gear with impen, keep buffs up, maybe get some more HP, set CPs accordingly, mabe walk with a group. All these things can help you to survive.
Ah. Good to know! How could I forget these basics?
Guess what? It does not help as much as needed.
[edited to remove quote]Edited by ZOS_Icy on March 14, 2026 6:36PM0 -
Yes get rid of itI see 2 options:
a) Get rid of it.
b) Include it in the beginners tutorial, so everyone knows how it works.
I play since beta and have no clue how to use animation canceling.
Nothing too complicated. Look at this
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/237015/what-animation-cancelling-is-detailed-explanation/p1
B.t.w mastering this esoteric martial "art" took me yesterday's evening no more no less. But it won't make you happier. All you will see is your character standing in a blocking stance or bashing and crazy DPS output. There is no role playing in this at all.
The thing is we are forced to use it in order to be competitive. One must howl with the wolves.Edited by alex394053 on April 28, 2016 3:41PM1 -
Destruent✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No let it stayStrider_Roshin wrote: »Animation canceling is what makes the combat of this game enjoyable. Without it, the combat would feel too slow paced.
There is no combat with animation canceling. It means instant death for me.
[snip]
Learn to play? There is no time to react if someone attacks me with animation canceling. "Combat" lasts under one second.
get gear with impen, keep buffs up, maybe get some more HP, set CPs accordingly, mabe walk with a group. All these things can help you to survive.
Ah. Good to know! How could I forget these basics?
Guess what? It does not help as much as needed.
This won't give you a godmode, but a chance to survive. You will die nonetheless, and maybe get oneshotted, but i usually have enough time to react when i get atacked. Even if i get roflstomped by a zerg, but then it doesn't help at all
[edited to remove quote]Edited by ZOS_Icy on March 14, 2026 6:36PMNoobplar1 -
forzajuve212✭✭✭✭✭No let it staybikerangelo wrote: »As a templar; hell no.
If I get stuck in one of my endless channels and can't cancel it with a block, I'd die a bunch more than I do already. This doesn't just serve to do more dps in the game, it helps with survivability as well. Plus, my only burst combo comes from animation cancelling, and it'd be stupid easy to avoid if all of my animations followed through.
Anyone who spends five minutes in pvp will hear from someone else what animation cancelling is. It's not a knowledge requirement prior to leaving the wailing prison in order to have fun in the game, it's an added layer of difficulty to master in end game pve and pvp.
You should also earn the right to do more damage aside from gear and stats. That's how lower level players can remain competitive against higher level players, otherwise this game will turn into an even bigger damage contest where the person with the most gold wins because he can afford the better gear for the better stats.
If you don't know how to animation cancel, learn. If you don't want to, you don't have to. Don't strip the few remaining challenging mechanics left in the game.
This.1 -
Nyx2✭✭✭✭Yes get rid of itIt's interesting and all and I wouldn't mind it at all if you couldn't do such ridiculous combos with it. But as it is now, I have to vote against it.0 -
Etchos✭✭✭No let it staywell this was enlightening. I've been running around Cyrodil for 6 months and didn't even know this was a thing till I stumbled on this post.
Which I guess is the problem right?
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EsoRecon✭✭✭✭✭No let it stayStrider_Roshin wrote: »Animation canceling is what makes the combat of this game enjoyable. Without it, the combat would feel too slow paced.
There is no combat with animation canceling. It means instant death for me.
[snip]
Learn to play? There is no time to react if someone attacks me with animation canceling. "Combat" lasts under one second.
Then you must have like 10k hp if you die in one second. [snip] Animation canceling doesn't just kill you in 1 second
[edited for baiting & to remove quote]Edited by ZOS_Icy on March 14, 2026 6:37PMXbox One [ NA ]
Gamertag - Zyzz II Legacy
Stam Sorc & Stam NB PvP
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forzajuve212✭✭✭✭✭No let it stayStrider_Roshin wrote: »Animation canceling is what makes the combat of this game enjoyable. Without it, the combat would feel too slow paced.
There is no combat with animation canceling. It means instant death for me.
[snip]
Learn to play? There is no time to react if someone attacks me with animation canceling. "Combat" lasts under one second.
get gear with impen, keep buffs up, maybe get some more HP, set CPs accordingly, mabe walk with a group. All these things can help you to survive.
Ah. Good to know! How could I forget these basics?
Guess what? It does not help as much as needed.
He's not saying you will win everything, the point is you need to actually look and see why you are dying. Run orzoga food with regen depending on your spec (stam regen for stam, magicka regen for magic) so you get around 22k+ max health. Run full impen (or as many pieces as possible) with 48 points into the resistant tree in CP. If you are a stam build, keep dodge chance up use vigor and rally to self heal, invest into immovable pots so you cant get cced, etc. There are plenty of ways for you to improve, just crying about animation canceling isnt gonna get you anywhere.
The point is, you need to run the right spec and practice to defeat those players. Yes, some players are extremely good and can near one shot but if you practice and learn why and how they are beating you, then you can improve and maybe stand a chance at killing them.
[edited to remove quote]Edited by ZOS_Icy on March 14, 2026 6:37PM1 -
Yes get rid of itAbsolutely not! It brings depth and complexity to combat, making skill quite an important factor in a fight
What do you mean by depth and complexity? Please clarify. Every anim cancel proponent talks about these mystic "depths" all the time. But in reality it has the only effect of earning some extra AP on newbies' ignorance. This feature as is mentioned earlier is totally undocumented.Edited by alex394053 on April 28, 2016 3:55PM1 -
Lord_Wrath✭✭✭✭✭Yes get rid of itI just think its cheap. I admit to using it as it becomes necessary when everyone else does it otherwise you are underperforming. But when i die in pvp instantly out of the blue with only seeing one move made i dont consider that person a 'good player'.1300+ CP | Lørd Wrath | - Sorcerer - Palatine - Grand Master Crafter - 30000 Achievement Points
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clocksstoppe✭✭✭✭✭
✭No let it stayWhat's the point of wanting to remove animation canceling? If some spells are broken because of "animation canceling" it means they don't have a long enough cast/channel time. Animations have nothing to do with this.0
