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Blocking Nerfed Again
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Xsorus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭HoloYoitsu wrote: »
Are you seriously saying that those of us here on the PTS forum providing feedback about this stupid change have not been on the PTS and experienced this first hand?Test it first before you start complaining lol.
Insane regen? First off, no one is going to run around in 7/7 heavy for 1100 Constitution, the people using heavy armor will be using 5 heavy and 2 med or 2 light depending on their build. That is 900 on Constitution. Every 4 seconds. That is equivalent to ~450 regen. Please explain how 450 stam regen while blocking is an insane buff?
That was a very clear buff!Before, we had 1 reason to wear heavy armor. Bracing. There is now no reason at all to wear heavy armor.
We ask for buffs to Heavy Armor and we get nerfs. Thanks ZOS.
Did u see that insane regen u have?? And u still have it while blocking?
Test it, you will see! Heavy armor is 100% stronger now. No wait... more like 200%+
One of the best sets in the game for heavy armor on pts is black rose; and if you run it you should consider 7/7 heavy cause it gives 1956 magicka and stamina ever 4 seconds... That's bloody over 900 stamina and magicka regen
Meh. Black Rose doesn't work for magicka tanks. And it's more of a hybrid DPS/tank set. Fine for 4-man content. Not good for Trials tanking where you want something like Tava's for maximum group support.
Basically, the removal of Bracing is a change that works well for certain builds. Namely, hybrid builds and people who get the silly idea of DPSing in heavy armor. For serious tanking, like stepping into vMoL, this is a downright ridiculous change.
No one cares about how it performs in trials because trials are even less played than pvp.. Not to mention in trials you can go sturdy and be better off then you were before the patch.https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
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code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No one cares about how it performs in trials because trials are even less played than pvp.. Not to mention in trials you can go sturdy and be better off then you were before the patch.
Right, because losing all your other useful traits just so you can run all-sturdy has no downside side effects at all.
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- Sunspire: 250866 (EU) (Godslayer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
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- Apex Predator and Pure Lunacy
- Depths Defier and Relentless Raider
- Defanged the Devourer and Nature's Wrath
- In Defiance of Death and No Rest for the Wicked
- Bane of Thorns and True Genius
- Ardent Bibliophile and Subterranean Smasher
- Battlespire's Best and Bastion Breaker
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Xsorus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No one cares about how it performs in trials because trials are even less played than pvp.. Not to mention in trials you can go sturdy and be better off then you were before the patch.
Right, because losing all your other useful traits just so you can run all-sturdy has no downside side effects at all.
Which useful traits? If you're talking pvp you're not going to be blocking a lot of times anyway and you'll want the new passives as their far superior.
If you're talking pve you're losing out on basically what? Infused and divines? In which case 200 spell power or weapon damage is more damage then what you'd get out of that; the regen you get from constitution more then makes up for anything else.. And if you went for health bonus you now get double what ya go before. These passives are flat out better then before in every way.https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
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code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No one cares about how it performs in trials because trials are even less played than pvp.. Not to mention in trials you can go sturdy and be better off then you were before the patch.
Right, because losing all your other useful traits just so you can run all-sturdy has no downside side effects at all.
Which useful traits? If you're talking pvp you're not going to be blocking a lot of times anyway and you'll want the new passives as their far superior.
If you're talking pve you're losing out on basically what? Infused and divines? In which case 200 spell power or weapon damage is more damage then what you'd get out of that; the regen you get from constitution more then makes up for anything else.. And if you went for health bonus you now get double what ya go before. These passives are flat out better then before in every way.
And PvE tanks should care about spell/weapon damage because...?
Actually, yes, my nightblade saptank does care about spell damage. But she's an unusual tank build designed to do DPS. And she thrives only because the PvE content in this game has been so grossly overnerfed that you don't even need tanks in most situations. For those situations where serious tanking is actually necessary, I'd much rather go with my traditional DK tank--and that's the tank that will truly suffer from this. (And even for my saptank, I see can situations where this change would be more harm than good.)
This is a great change for certain builds. Evidently, you run one of those so you keep cheerleading for it, and I understand because I have one of those builds too. But for one of the primary use cases of heavy armor--traditional PvE tanking--this is, unequivocally, a serious nerf--no ifs or buts. And this is going to decimate the PvE tanking even more. As if the status quo wasn't bad enough.Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
Dungeons and Trials:Personal best scores:- Dragonstar Arena: 46817 (NA)
- Maelstrom Arena: 600526 (NA)
- Blackrose Prison: 99274 (EU) (Unchained)
- Maw of Lorkhaj: 165227 (EU)
- Halls of Fabrication: 220708 (NA) (Tick-Tock Tormentor #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11, #12)
- Asylum Sanctorium: 114957 (NA) (Immortal Redeemer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10)
- Cloudrest: 131256 (NA) (Gryphon Heart #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Sunspire: 250866 (EU) (Godslayer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Kyne's Aegis: 235841 (EU) (Dawnbringer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8)
Dungeon trifectas:- Mountain God and Leave No Bone Unbroken
- Apex Predator and Pure Lunacy
- Depths Defier and Relentless Raider
- Defanged the Devourer and Nature's Wrath
- In Defiance of Death and No Rest for the Wicked
- Bane of Thorns and True Genius
- Ardent Bibliophile and Subterranean Smasher
- Battlespire's Best and Bastion Breaker
- Zero Regrets and Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy
- Fist of Tava and Invader's Bane
- Curator's Champion (Valinna) and Temporal Tempest
- Unshakeable Fervor and Lighting the Embers
Extended Journal Add-Ons: Item Set Browser ― Loot Log ― Character Knowledge ― Collectibles Tracker ― RaidificatorOther Add-Ons: Combat Alerts ― Deconstruction Junk Marker ― Purge Tracker ― Asylum Status Panel ― Smart Looter ― Improved Companion Rapport Information4 -
Weesacs✭✭✭✭✭Which useful traits? If you're talking pvp you're not going to be blocking a lot of times anyway and you'll want the new passives as their far superior.
Not true ... I perma block all the time in PvP especially to compensate against the perma-wrecking blowers (which we all know there are many of). When Im CCd I rely on my impenetrable traits to see me through however with sturdy thats not going to happen is it?
Therefore, having to replace impenetrable with sturdy is a nerf and you know it.
Breton Templar
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