Natch potes 2.4.0?

Shader_Shibes · April 2016

anitajoneb17_ESO · April 2016

Sallington wrote: »

Are the patch notes in a non-forum-friendly format when the PTS patch starts being installed, and it just takes time to convert them for the forums?

Actually yes a few minutes of "patch notes making backyard" would be nice in ESO live :-)

I assume it's not a text formatting issue but rather a wording issue. The notes probably come in dev-geek-speech format and Gina must translate them all into phrases that make sense for the majority of players - to avoid an avalanche of questions and clarification requests ;-)

Paulington · April 2016

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

Are the patch notes in a non-forum-friendly format when the PTS patch starts being installed, and it just takes time to convert them for the forums?

Actually yes a few minutes of "patch notes making backyard" would be nice in ESO live :-)

I assume it's not a text formatting issue but rather a wording issue. The notes probably come in dev-geek-speech format and Gina must translate them all into phrases that make sense for the majority of players - to avoid an avalanche of questions and clarification requests ;-)

I believe Gina said they have to check that the changes listed have actually made it into the final build too however I may be wrong. I imagine patch note localisation takes quite a long while too.

I doubt it's anywhere near as simple as it may appear.

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Panth141 · April 2016

For some reason whenever the patch note hype is up, I picture @ZOS_GinaBruno sitting on her sofa typing them up whilst watching TV and relaxing with a nice cup of tea. I know I'm delusional, but I can hope it's like that...

(Feel free to change by British-isms and swap tea for a drink of your choice - though tea would be best)

MissBizz · April 2016

Paulington wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

Are the patch notes in a non-forum-friendly format when the PTS patch starts being installed, and it just takes time to convert them for the forums?

Actually yes a few minutes of "patch notes making backyard" would be nice in ESO live :-)

I assume it's not a text formatting issue but rather a wording issue. The notes probably come in dev-geek-speech format and Gina must translate them all into phrases that make sense for the majority of players - to avoid an avalanche of questions and clarification requests ;-)

I believe Gina said they have to check that the changes listed have actually made it into the final build too however I may be wrong. I imagine patch note localisation takes quite a long while too.

I doubt it's anywhere near as simple as it may appear. .

What? You're telling me they don't just use google translate?

Elsonso · April 2016

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

Are the patch notes in a non-forum-friendly format when the PTS patch starts being installed, and it just takes time to convert them for the forums?

Actually yes a few minutes of "patch notes making backyard" would be nice in ESO live :-)

I assume it's not a text formatting issue but rather a wording issue. The notes probably come in dev-geek-speech format and Gina must translate them all into phrases that make sense for the majority of players - to avoid an avalanche of questions and clarification requests ;-)

We need a live stream.

Armitas · April 2016

Faunter wrote: »

I like how the CIA falls just below the dark brotherhood.

GazettE · April 2016

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

The ETA is tomorrow, as previously stated. Come on now.

Enodoc wrote: »

Hey @ZOS_GinaBruno how many pages of Natch Potes are there? Can we play the random patch note game? I pick Page 27

No joke, still trying to finalize them, but we're currently sitting at 44 pages!

Page 27? That's a good one.
Absorption Field (Negate Magic morph): Redesigned this morph so it now heals you and your allies standing within the area of effect, in addition to stunning or silencing enemies.

Dat morph???? For real???

Paulington · April 2016

MissBizz wrote: »

Paulington wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

Are the patch notes in a non-forum-friendly format when the PTS patch starts being installed, and it just takes time to convert them for the forums?

Actually yes a few minutes of "patch notes making backyard" would be nice in ESO live :-)

I assume it's not a text formatting issue but rather a wording issue. The notes probably come in dev-geek-speech format and Gina must translate them all into phrases that make sense for the majority of players - to avoid an avalanche of questions and clarification requests ;-)

I believe Gina said they have to check that the changes listed have actually made it into the final build too however I may be wrong. I imagine patch note localisation takes quite a long while too.

I doubt it's anywhere near as simple as it may appear. .

What? You're telling me they don't just use google translate?

You've given me an idea of running the ENG patch notes through Google Translate and seeing the horrors that come out the other end.

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Joy_Division · April 2016

GazettE wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

The ETA is tomorrow, as previously stated. Come on now.

Enodoc wrote: »

Hey @ZOS_GinaBruno how many pages of Natch Potes are there? Can we play the random patch note game? I pick Page 27

No joke, still trying to finalize them, but we're currently sitting at 44 pages!

Page 27? That's a good one.
Absorption Field (Negate Magic morph): Redesigned this morph so it now heals you and your allies standing within the area of effect, in addition to stunning or silencing enemies.

Dat morph???? For real???

Legit!

ArvenAldmeri · April 2016

GazettE wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

The ETA is tomorrow, as previously stated. Come on now.

Enodoc wrote: »

Hey @ZOS_GinaBruno how many pages of Natch Potes are there? Can we play the random patch note game? I pick Page 27

No joke, still trying to finalize them, but we're currently sitting at 44 pages!

Page 27? That's a good one.
Absorption Field (Negate Magic morph): Redesigned this morph so it now heals you and your allies standing within the area of effect, in addition to stunning or silencing enemies.

Dat morph???? For real???

Its good they buffed this ultimate. I did not see a single sorc to use it for months now - for a good reason.

Ishammael · April 2016

Joy_Division wrote: »

GazettE wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

The ETA is tomorrow, as previously stated. Come on now.

Enodoc wrote: »

Hey @ZOS_GinaBruno how many pages of Natch Potes are there? Can we play the random patch note game? I pick Page 27

No joke, still trying to finalize them, but we're currently sitting at 44 pages!

Page 27? That's a good one.
Absorption Field (Negate Magic morph): Redesigned this morph so it now heals you and your allies standing within the area of effect, in addition to stunning or silencing enemies.

Dat morph???? For real???

Legit!

I was hoping for a patch note along the lines of "blah blah blah DYNAMIC ULTIMATE blah blah blah"

sigh

ZOS_RichLambert · April 2016

Paulington wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

Are the patch notes in a non-forum-friendly format when the PTS patch starts being installed, and it just takes time to convert them for the forums?

Actually yes a few minutes of "patch notes making backyard" would be nice in ESO live :-)

I assume it's not a text formatting issue but rather a wording issue. The notes probably come in dev-geek-speech format and Gina must translate them all into phrases that make sense for the majority of players - to avoid an avalanche of questions and clarification requests ;-)

I believe Gina said they have to check that the changes listed have actually made it into the final build too however I may be wrong. I imagine patch note localisation takes quite a long while too.

I doubt it's anywhere near as simple as it may appear. .

They do arrive at Gina in Dev speak most times. Gina also goes through and double checks the changelists to make sure what's in the patch notes is actually in that particular build. It's a huge effort and to be quite honest, I dunno how she manages it all sometimes.

She was madly working on the notes while we were on the plane home from PAX last night. She's a ROCKSTAR!!

driosketch · April 2016

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Absorption Field (Negate Magic morph): Redesigned this morph so it now heals you and your allies standing within the area of effect, in addition to stunning or silencing enemies.

As a Templar, "They took our jerbs!"

GazettE · April 2016

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

Paulington wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

Are the patch notes in a non-forum-friendly format when the PTS patch starts being installed, and it just takes time to convert them for the forums?

Actually yes a few minutes of "patch notes making backyard" would be nice in ESO live :-)

I assume it's not a text formatting issue but rather a wording issue. The notes probably come in dev-geek-speech format and Gina must translate them all into phrases that make sense for the majority of players - to avoid an avalanche of questions and clarification requests ;-)

I believe Gina said they have to check that the changes listed have actually made it into the final build too however I may be wrong. I imagine patch note localisation takes quite a long while too.

I doubt it's anywhere near as simple as it may appear. .

They do arrive at Gina in Dev speak most times. Gina also goes through and double checks the changelists to make sure what's in the patch notes is actually in that particular build. It's a huge effort and to be quite honest, I dunno how she manages it all sometimes.

She was madly working on the notes while we were on the plane home from PAX last night. She's a ROCKSTAR!!

/kowtow @ZOS_GinaBruno

JD2013 · April 2016

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

Paulington wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

Are the patch notes in a non-forum-friendly format when the PTS patch starts being installed, and it just takes time to convert them for the forums?

Actually yes a few minutes of "patch notes making backyard" would be nice in ESO live :-)

I assume it's not a text formatting issue but rather a wording issue. The notes probably come in dev-geek-speech format and Gina must translate them all into phrases that make sense for the majority of players - to avoid an avalanche of questions and clarification requests ;-)

I believe Gina said they have to check that the changes listed have actually made it into the final build too however I may be wrong. I imagine patch note localisation takes quite a long while too.

I doubt it's anywhere near as simple as it may appear. .

They do arrive at Gina in Dev speak most times. Gina also goes through and double checks the changelists to make sure what's in the patch notes is actually in that particular build. It's a huge effort and to be quite honest, I dunno how she manages it all sometimes.

She was madly working on the notes while we were on the plane home from PAX last night. She's a ROCKSTAR!!

She is the glue that binds the community!

Also ...

Is it ready yet??

zerosingularity · April 2016

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

Paulington wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

Are the patch notes in a non-forum-friendly format when the PTS patch starts being installed, and it just takes time to convert them for the forums?

Actually yes a few minutes of "patch notes making backyard" would be nice in ESO live :-)

I assume it's not a text formatting issue but rather a wording issue. The notes probably come in dev-geek-speech format and Gina must translate them all into phrases that make sense for the majority of players - to avoid an avalanche of questions and clarification requests ;-)

I believe Gina said they have to check that the changes listed have actually made it into the final build too however I may be wrong. I imagine patch note localisation takes quite a long while too.

I doubt it's anywhere near as simple as it may appear. .

They do arrive at Gina in Dev speak most times. Gina also goes through and double checks the changelists to make sure what's in the patch notes is actually in that particular build. It's a huge effort and to be quite honest, I dunno how she manages it all sometimes.

She was madly working on the notes while we were on the plane home from PAX last night. She's a ROCKSTAR!!

Sounds like she needs a raise!

Maybe some sweetrolls too.

Also, NATCH POTES!!

Edit: Would like to actually see some of this Dev speak the Natch Potes come in, give us an idea of what goes into getting these glorious gifts ready for our viewing pleasure.

ManDraKE · April 2016

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

Paulington wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

Are the patch notes in a non-forum-friendly format when the PTS patch starts being installed, and it just takes time to convert them for the forums?

Actually yes a few minutes of "patch notes making backyard" would be nice in ESO live :-)

I assume it's not a text formatting issue but rather a wording issue. The notes probably come in dev-geek-speech format and Gina must translate them all into phrases that make sense for the majority of players - to avoid an avalanche of questions and clarification requests ;-)

I believe Gina said they have to check that the changes listed have actually made it into the final build too however I may be wrong. I imagine patch note localisation takes quite a long while too.

I doubt it's anywhere near as simple as it may appear. .

They do arrive at Gina in Dev speak most times. Gina also goes through and double checks the changelists to make sure what's in the patch notes is actually in that particular build. It's a huge effort and to be quite honest, I dunno how she manages it all sometimes.

She was madly working on the notes while we were on the plane home from PAX last night. She's a ROCKSTAR!!

Well, if you have a proper issue tracking like JIRA/Redmine, you should be able to get changelog with 1 click. Then is just a thing of writing a more human-readable version :P

Armitas · April 2016

Taruha · April 2016

Arriving late to the party it seems.. I can has patch notes? o.o'
Pwetty please with sprinkles and a cherry on top

ZOS_RichLambert · April 2016

Well, if you have a proper issue tracking like JIRA/Redmine, you should be able to get changelog with 1 click. Then is just a thing of writing a more human-readable version :P

human-readable version is the hard part

Taruha · April 2016

Also Gina is a legend!

Elsonso · April 2016

zerosingularity wrote: »

Edit: Would like to actually see some of this Dev speak the Natch Potes come in, give us an idea of what goes into getting these glorious gifts ready for our viewing pleasure.

"Changed Absorption ultimate."

ginoboehm · April 2016

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

Well, if you have a proper issue tracking like JIRA/Redmine, you should be able to get changelog with 1 click. Then is just a thing of writing a more human-readable version :P

human-readable version is the hard part

can i get it earlier in dev talk because i am a dev too?

crazmadsci · April 2016

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

Paulington wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

Are the patch notes in a non-forum-friendly format when the PTS patch starts being installed, and it just takes time to convert them for the forums?

Actually yes a few minutes of "patch notes making backyard" would be nice in ESO live :-)

I assume it's not a text formatting issue but rather a wording issue. The notes probably come in dev-geek-speech format and Gina must translate them all into phrases that make sense for the majority of players - to avoid an avalanche of questions and clarification requests ;-)

I believe Gina said they have to check that the changes listed have actually made it into the final build too however I may be wrong. I imagine patch note localisation takes quite a long while too.

I doubt it's anywhere near as simple as it may appear. .

They do arrive at Gina in Dev speak most times. Gina also goes through and double checks the changelists to make sure what's in the patch notes is actually in that particular build. It's a huge effort and to be quite honest, I dunno how she manages it all sometimes.

She was madly working on the notes while we were on the plane home from PAX last night. She's a ROCKSTAR!!

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert I can only imagine the horror of what happens to the poor patch notes if she all of a sudden goes into labor or when she leaves on maternity leave. Community members should nominate Developer Champions as well as Community Champions.

Armitas · April 2016

Recremen · April 2016

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

Paulington wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

Are the patch notes in a non-forum-friendly format when the PTS patch starts being installed, and it just takes time to convert them for the forums?

Actually yes a few minutes of "patch notes making backyard" would be nice in ESO live :-)

I assume it's not a text formatting issue but rather a wording issue. The notes probably come in dev-geek-speech format and Gina must translate them all into phrases that make sense for the majority of players - to avoid an avalanche of questions and clarification requests ;-)

I believe Gina said they have to check that the changes listed have actually made it into the final build too however I may be wrong. I imagine patch note localisation takes quite a long while too.

I doubt it's anywhere near as simple as it may appear. .

They do arrive at Gina in Dev speak most times. Gina also goes through and double checks the changelists to make sure what's in the patch notes is actually in that particular build. It's a huge effort and to be quite honest, I dunno how she manages it all sometimes.

She was madly working on the notes while we were on the plane home from PAX last night. She's a ROCKSTAR!!

I swear Gina has turned out more patch note pages in two years than most novelists get in 20. She's doing great!

Anti_Virus · April 2016

NATCH POTES PLZ!

anitajoneb17_ESO · April 2016

Bet the baby's first cry is gonna be... Natch Potes ?

runagate · April 2016

Anyone who has dealt with coders knows they're mysteriously unwilling to provide notes about what they've done... even if it means that no one will ever use, or be able to use, what they put so much hard work into! It's very strange.

The first software manual I ever wrote was for a type of audio synthesizer that hadn't previously existed, had an inscrutable GUI, and the developer of which didn't really speak English (mostly Italian) and had no notes about it... I had to experiment with it and infer how it worked and then confirm my suspicions with the developer slowly and haltingly. Fun! Of course, my manual was such a success that he now has a successful business because I wouldn't stop promoting his interesting and inventive creations to my sound design community.

The natchpoter can be a thankless but invaluable job. Of course, not all such folks are rumored to be bringing a half-argonian child into the world. The Hist says it's "only a rumor and no ETA," so I'm still skeptical.