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Do you think veteran White Gold Tower, Imperial City Prison, and City of Ash should be nerfed?
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Do you think veteran White Gold Tower, Imperial City Prison, and City of Ash should be nerfed? 116 votes
No, leave them as they are.
41%
48 votes
No, buff them instead.
19%
23 votes
Only nerf one. (please state which and why below)
3%
4 votes
Yes
27%
32 votes
Other
7%
9 votes
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Destruent✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Only nerf one. (please state which and why below)nerf vCoA bc i just want to know what's actually in there which CAN be nerfed
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Kippesnikke✭✭✭✭No, buff them instead.l2p issues herePC-EU-EP
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phaneub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Only nerf one. (please state which and why below)I just suck, 300 CP later I'm still getting wrecked by Gamyne Bandu in Vet Fungal Grotto, sometimes I get lucky and she's been cleared but nothing else has, the rest of the dungeon is easy.0 -
Destruent✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Only nerf one. (please state which and why below)Kippesnikke wrote: »l2p issues here
holy sh**, you really did it. You summoned the "elitists are evil and destroy our game"-crowd
Get your popcorn into position, guys
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strikeback1247✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, leave them as they are.Maybe we should nerf wayrest sewers as well P.A.W.S. - Positively Against Wild Sasquatches - NO TO BIGFOOT!2 -
Sausage✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, leave them as they are.I wish this game had challenging content. Challenging content is fun, aoe-fest not so much.Edited by Sausage on April 24, 2016 12:22PM1 -
MaxwellC✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No, buff them instead.I voted for buff just to make those who can't do it mad but.... yeah it's an l2p issue. They've been nerf'd like 2 times so far and those who can't complete it can't do it based on how their team coordinates and their lack of skill flow.不動の Steadfast - Unwavering
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Destruent✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Only nerf one. (please state which and why below)strikeback1247 wrote: »Maybe we should nerf wayrest sewers as well
oh yes, pls do it. nerf normal/wayrest sewers. the crocos in the first room usually kill me when i'm afk...they shouldn't be able to kill me while i'm not on pc
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CaptainVenom✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesVet City of Ash (Gold Challenge) is okay. You can beat it even with some unusual builds, as long as the healer knows what he's/she's doing (I beat it once with a Nightblade Orc as healer). However, Vet ICP and WGT are ridiculously difficult. Those two dungeons force you to go full dps, thus breaking one of the most awesome things Elder Scrolls games have: the opportunity to create a gameplay the way you want. I really love debuff/dps builds, but it would never work on any of those said dungeons, for example, and it's REALLY frustrating. So yes, vet ICP and WGT need a nerf.🌈 Ride with Pride🌈
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Destruent✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Only nerf one. (please state which and why below)CaptainVenom wrote: »Vet City of Ash (Gold Challenge) is okay. You can beat it even with some unusual builds, as long as the healer knows what he's/she's doing (I beat it once with a Nightblade Orc as healer). However, Vet ICP and WGT are ridiculously difficult. Those two dungeons force you to go full dps, thus breaking one of the most awesome things Elder Scrolls games have: the opportunity to create a gameplay the way you want. I really love debuff/dps builds, but it would never work on any of those said dungeons, for example, and it's REALLY frustrating. So yes, vet ICP and WGT need a nerf.
lol...you don't need full DPS for this dungeons....just a solid amount of maybe ~25k group-DPS, which isn't that much tbh.
Just fyi: If a group goes full-DPS molag kena is dead right after (or maybe before) she spawns the two lightning-lanes...you definitely don't need this to finish the dungeon.Noobplar0 -
Artjuh90✭✭✭✭✭
✭Otheronly thing that needs nerfing is magicka sorc and magica det soul tether visious death combo :<2 -
Apherius✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No, leave them as they are.jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Why not? More people will be able to complete it.
hum ... if people want be able to complet it , they should stop cry and TRY HARD . i'm a player's who have complet ALL succees of ICP and WGT and i d'ont want be able to do these dungeon NAKED . And after what ? a nerf of VMA ?where is the wonderful felling than you have when you finish him NAKED ?2 -
Apherius✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No, leave them as they are.CaptainVenom wrote: »Vet City of Ash (Gold Challenge) is okay. You can beat it even with some unusual builds, as long as the healer knows what he's/she's doing (I beat it once with a Nightblade Orc as healer). However, Vet ICP and WGT are ridiculously difficult. Those two dungeons force you to go full dps, thus breaking one of the most awesome things Elder Scrolls games have: the opportunity to create a gameplay the way you want. I really love debuff/dps builds, but it would never work on any of those said dungeons, for example, and it's REALLY frustrating. So yes, vet ICP and WGT need a nerf.
man xD you d'ont need full dps . i tank these two dungeon just after making a tank armor to my magicka sorcerer dps0 -
Apherius✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No, leave them as they are.Eh guys who say " yes " Strop try do do these dungeon naked with a sword lvl 3 ! take a Warrior armor , a Good sword and TRY HARD0 -
lolo_01b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No, buff them instead.Why are we not allowed to have a single dungeon that poses a challenge? Sure, we have MoL, but I can't always get 12 people together, so it would be nice to have some difficult dungeons aswell.
Or maybe introduce a nightmare mode for those players who like theorycrafting and optimizing their character.1 -
Apherius✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No, leave them as they are.only thing that needs nerfing is magicka sorc and magica det soul tether visious death combo :<
Hum , nerf visious death but not the sorc ...... why people want always nerf a other class because she is best in DPS .... man , we are not very good on heal and tank ... so stop man , stop ... Stam sorc are bad , dk tank are better than sorc tank , templar heal are better than sorc heal ... nb can Heal and do the same dps than a sorc !!!! we have just a fu... shield , a frag , a bound aegis , a dot ! all other skill are bad in PVE ! ( i d'ont like overload ... it's a noob ultimated , and after all people want nerf sorcerer ! )Edited by Apherius on April 24, 2016 1:45PM0 -
Dubhliam✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, leave them as they are.CaptainVenom wrote: »Vet City of Ash (Gold Challenge) is okay. You can beat it even with some unusual builds, as long as the healer knows what he's/she's doing (I beat it once with a Nightblade Orc as healer). However, Vet ICP and WGT are ridiculously difficult. Those two dungeons force you to go full dps, thus breaking one of the most awesome things Elder Scrolls games have: the opportunity to create a gameplay the way you want. I really love debuff/dps builds, but it would never work on any of those said dungeons, for example, and it's REALLY frustrating. So yes, vet ICP and WGT need a nerf.
False.
You don't need good DPS in neither WGT nor ICP.
Actually, only vCoA has an implemented DPS check (Valkyn Skoria).
vICP and vWGT are both doable with mediocre DPS, as long as there is at least one member in the dungeon that knows the mechanics and can teach tactics to the other 3.
By mediocre DPS I mean around 15k.
IMO:
10k DPS = low
15k DPS = mediocre
20k DPS = good
30k DPS+ = awesomeEdited by Dubhliam on April 24, 2016 1:48PM0 -
Apherius✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No, leave them as they are.lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »Why are we not allowed to have a single dungeon that poses a challenge? Sure, we have MoL, but I can't always get 12 people together, so it would be nice to have some difficult dungeons aswell.
Or maybe introduce a nightmare mode for those players who like theorycrafting and optimizing their character.
YES ! , +1Edited by Apherius on April 24, 2016 1:48PM0 -
Nyx2✭✭✭✭No, leave them as they are.jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Why not? More people will be able to complete it.
Yes, and more people will fall asleep during their dungeons.0 -
Apherius✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No, leave them as they are.By mediocre DPS I mean around 15k.
noob who cry for a nerf .. have only 2K dps , and cry because they c'ant do ICP in VET with their AWESOME 2K dps :P
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Mush55✭✭✭✭OtherWith no new 4 man content what dose it matter, was against the nerf before but what you gonna do with the gear out of there now .
Don't say trials because It's not for me..0 -
Jaronking✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, buff them instead.Personally as a PVper who hate the PVP in this game because it's mind numbling boring even with me doing each one of these dungeons with stam NB running my PVP build their still easy.ZOS please buff these dungeons everything else in this game is so easy people fall asleep playing it. Every VET dungeon should be as Difficult as VICP and VWGT.Their need to be a learning curve in this game not this sad mess we have now.Also FIX PVP lag.
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MidnightBlue✭✭✭No. It's not hard to complete. People who can't complete them need to be more open minded about changing their builds and skills a bit and learn mechanics to beat them. You can't go in these dungeons with whatever stuff you have on and not knowing mechanics expecting to beat it.0
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Nacacia✭OtherAll veteran content will likely be nerfed to some extent by the removal of veteran levels.2