Wanderinlost wrote: »or do not get access to a very important feature.
dimensional wrote: »Extra crafting space is in no way pay to win, not by any stretch of imagination.
clocksstoppe wrote: »Can you please identify the location of "pay to win" in the OP? You have no idea what this thread is about.
clocksstoppe wrote: »dimensional wrote: »Extra crafting space is in no way pay to win, not by any stretch of imagination.
Can you please identify the location of "pay to win" in the OP? You have no idea what this thread is about.
It's not the OP, it's just that some other users that seems like not have any idea what pay to win is, answered the op stating that the bag is P2W or that this bag in the CS means that the game will become P2W
Wanderinlost wrote: »or do not get access to a very important feature.
This is the problem of the whole situation.. people refuse to realise that crafting bags are NOT, in any form, a "very important feature" in the game.
They're completely optional.. if you actually play the game in time you'll have enough inventory space to store everything and even have free slots even without it.
It is NOT a very important feature.
Wait let me repeat this:
"it is NOT a very important feature" in the game.. it's only a convenience item everyone can live without
jcasini222ub17_ESO wrote: »I wouldnt worry too much, I have a deep feeling they'll appear eventually in the crown store. Cant see not double dipping on revenue streams. Bags for subscribers allowed on all characters- bags purchaseable for 2k crowns can only be used on character purchased. Something like that, think it was mentioned earlier.
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dimensional wrote: »He didn't say it wasn't important *to* you. He said is isn't an important feature in the game, as in it is not an integral moving part of the machine that this game runs on and it wouldn't break the game if some had access to it and others didn't. That is a different assessment altogether.
dimensional wrote: »He didn't say it wasn't important *to* you. He said is isn't an important feature in the game, as in it is not an integral moving part of the machine that this game runs on and it wouldn't break the game if some had access to it and others didn't. That is a different assessment altogether.
Wanderinlost wrote: »dimensional wrote: »He didn't say it wasn't important *to* you. He said is isn't an important feature in the game, as in it is not an integral moving part of the machine that this game runs on and it wouldn't break the game if some had access to it and others didn't. That is a different assessment altogether.
My point was that for me the game was more or less broken without it and will continue to be broken. I have dealt with it, and it is a non stop headache for my style of play. So it will provided much needed relief for some but not all.
He is wrong though. It is not an option. ESO+ doesn't get to choose and neither does B2P. The only option here is to switch to ESO+, which is a major problem and an unreasonable expectation after a year of them pushing DLC. They chose to make ESO B2P and sell DLC and now a year later they take a step back towards P2P.
dimensional wrote: »He didn't say it wasn't important *to* you. He said is isn't an important feature in the game, as in it is not an integral moving part of the machine that this game runs on and it wouldn't break the game if some had access to it and others didn't. That is a different assessment altogether.
thanks
dimensional wrote: »dimensional wrote: »He didn't say it wasn't important *to* you. He said is isn't an important feature in the game, as in it is not an integral moving part of the machine that this game runs on and it wouldn't break the game if some had access to it and others didn't. That is a different assessment altogether.
thanks
NP, but the guy somehow continues to insist that the game is broken for him without said bags. Don't even know how to address that.
Wanderinlost wrote: »You are getting the crafting bags for free, for something you are already paying. A B2P customer will have to spend a substantial fee to access them.
Yes and no. New content is good but the lack of quality recently doesn't fit exactly the pleasure of paying for them. But a purchase is a purchase, regardless the motive, it's money for the company and it's supportive anyways."ArvenAldmeri wrote: »I am pretty much sure that you dont buy the DLC to support the game but just for the sake of being able to play DLC.
I never said you didn't go the hard way. I did that too. If I say about "richness" (broaden the concept, it's not literal) it's purely based upon exchange rates country-to-country. If subbers didn't get any crowns back I would be truly respecful, but you (or they) get a *** ton for free.ArvenAldmeri wrote: »The motives do not come to us for free. Most people such as me just farm it the normal way. It makes me laugh that you think all subs are richie riches tho. I am currently unemployed looking for work
And stop being jealous because of the pets and costumes, we all know you want them real bad.
It's absolutely fair. People who aren't cheap should be rewarded for their loyalty. It's ridiculous that people think they deserve everything when they aren't willing to give back.
It's absolutely fair. People who aren't cheap should be rewarded for their loyalty. It's ridiculous that people think they deserve everything when they aren't willing to give back.
Wanderinlost wrote: »I am not saying that ESO+ should not get the bag, but why should us who have supported this game through buy to play be given the same option, to buy the crafting bag with crowns.