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Tooltip Damage vs Actual Results
babedenny
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Description:
Flash through the shadows and ambush an enemy, dealing 3414 Physical Damage, and stunning them for 2 seconds.
Actual:
You hit Dominion Cutthroat with Ambush for 2,873 damage.
I also see this when the next attack should be +20% damage, and isn't. Is this due the targets armor, a bug in the add-on, in the game, or what?
Flash through the shadows and ambush an enemy, dealing 3414 Physical Damage, and stunning them for 2 seconds.
Actual:
You hit Dominion Cutthroat with Ambush for 2,873 damage.
I also see this when the next attack should be +20% damage, and isn't. Is this due the targets armor, a bug in the add-on, in the game, or what?
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code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
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- Apex Predator and Pure Lunacy
- Depths Defier and Relentless Raider
- Defanged the Devourer and Nature's Wrath
- In Defiance of Death and No Rest for the Wicked
- Bane of Thorns and True Genius
- Ardent Bibliophile and Subterranean Smasher
- Battlespire's Best and Bastion Breaker
- Zero Regrets and Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy
- Fist of Tava and Invader's Bane
- Curator's Champion (Valinna) and Temporal Tempest
- Unshakeable Fervor and Lighting the Embers
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ostrapz✭✭✭More than likely its just the armor resistance bringing it down,Xbox 1 NA
Stamblade: Grand overlord
Stamsorc: Major
Magplar: Centurion
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babedenny✭✭✭✭Thanks. That's quite interesting, and I had not seen that before. That section deals a lot with champion points. I have them, and I assume the NPC does not. Is it wrong to expect my damage to be at least equal to or even higher than the tool tip in PVE?
If you guys say it's normal, then I trust your answer.
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babedenny✭✭✭✭I guess this kind of explains it.
"For PvE, most mobs have a level of 50. Examples of Armour Debuff are Major and Minor Fracture and Breach, 5 piece bonus of Night Mother’s Gaze and Glyphs of Crushing."0 -
phaneub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Champion point selections also cause some tooltip increases that don't reflect back on the actual attack like Thaumaturge can cause certain non-damage over time abilities to show a higher damage tooltip, but in actuality has no effect on them when used.0 -
code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭For PvE mobs, the part that matter the most is mitigation. All enemies in PvE have resistance (armor), which is why things like Major Fracture or Major Breach are so important, to debuff that resistance.Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
Dungeons and Trials:Personal best scores:- Dragonstar Arena: 46817 (NA)
- Maelstrom Arena: 600526 (NA)
- Blackrose Prison: 99274 (EU) (Unchained)
- Maw of Lorkhaj: 165227 (EU)
- Halls of Fabrication: 220708 (NA) (Tick-Tock Tormentor #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11, #12)
- Asylum Sanctorium: 114957 (NA) (Immortal Redeemer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10)
- Cloudrest: 131256 (NA) (Gryphon Heart #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Sunspire: 250866 (EU) (Godslayer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Kyne's Aegis: 235841 (EU) (Dawnbringer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8)
Dungeon trifectas:- Mountain God and Leave No Bone Unbroken
- Apex Predator and Pure Lunacy
- Depths Defier and Relentless Raider
- Defanged the Devourer and Nature's Wrath
- In Defiance of Death and No Rest for the Wicked
- Bane of Thorns and True Genius
- Ardent Bibliophile and Subterranean Smasher
- Battlespire's Best and Bastion Breaker
- Zero Regrets and Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy
- Fist of Tava and Invader's Bane
- Curator's Champion (Valinna) and Temporal Tempest
- Unshakeable Fervor and Lighting the Embers
Extended Journal Add-Ons: Item Set Browser ― Loot Log ― Character Knowledge ― Collectibles Tracker ― RaidificatorPC/Console Add-Ons: Combat Alerts ― Group Buff PanelsOther Add-Ons: Deconstruction Junk Marker ― Purge Tracker ― Asylum Status Panel ― Smart Looter ― Improved Companion Rapport Information0 -
babedenny✭✭✭✭Thing is... I'm relying on those tool tips to help me decide what to have on my bar. Then FTC shows me that I'm not getting what I thought I should be getting.
It's not all bad though
I'm only V4 and Killer's Blade is regularly hitting 6,000+ damage, plus the heal. I didn't expect it to hit that hard based on the tooltip, and my relatively mediocre gear.
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s7732425ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭For the sake of simplicity, it's easiest to assume that all mobs have a flat 15% damage reduction.
This reduction goes down if the tank uses a piercing debuff and if you have armor/spell penetration.0 -
babedenny✭✭✭✭Thanks everybody . I've learned a lot already, and have more resources to look at thanks to your responses.0
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babedenny✭✭✭✭"and if you have armor/spell penetration"
Man... not another 3k to re-roll my points. I already have sharpened weapons, lol.
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ColoursYouHave✭✭✭✭✭
✭Thing is... I'm relying on those tool tips to help me decide what to have on my bar. Then FTC shows me that I'm not getting what I thought I should be getting.
It's not all bad though
I'm only V4 and Killer's Blade is regularly hitting 6,000+ damage, plus the heal. I didn't expect it to hit that hard based on the tooltip, and my relatively mediocre gear.
Just use the tooltips to compare skills to each other, rather than using them to determine how much damage you'll actually do.0