God_flakes wrote: »

forzajuve212 wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

The sky is not falling.
This is how had has been for as long as I can remember.

There is fighting during prime time.
When the fighting settles down someone night caps, and pushes the other factions to the gates.
One faction turtles with emp.
Rylana talks about how horrible AD where regardless of what side of the night capping he was on.
The cycle repeats.

Lately all the blame has been on AD, but EP where doing the exact same thing not long ago. I remember logging in multiple times to Zavus as Emp and a red map.

I am not saying that this is a correct thing, but the sky is not falling.

Rylana does not nightcap, try again. When fights die off, I log off or go do something else, usually zergdiving on Trueflame with my AD templar, actually.

I meant regardless of your factions position. if you defended emp you would talk about how bad AD was. If Ad had emp you would talk about how bad AD was.

I am pretty sure I could beat you in 100 duels, and you would talk about how I am bad for being AD.

You realize I am also AD, and originated there, correct? I know AD and how they operate. 2 or 3 AP farms with smallmans scattered around the map, a few gank groups, a humungous guild or blob that likes to take farragut and rayles without telling anyone their plan or coordinating, and then the zerg that thinks Sejanus/Alessia is the only place for PvP, ever.

I know youre a monster, one of the ONLY decent players in AD left, duel or not id never call you personally bad. Thats just funny youd even say that. Whats bad is when I see you and your 2 or 3 guys swarming in with the other 60 AD through a breach in a keep and then claim you had 4 guys.

Thats where I draw the line.

But see your little squad isnt the problem on Haderus, the problem on haderus are the three or so 24 man blobs all stacked together as soon as a keep is contested, especially in prime. The zerg is real. I was just fighting that very same zerg a couple weekends ago before we moved to Azuras (which is coincidence, id love to be farming the Had ad as usual)

AD never shows up at a keep with 12-15 guys like I do and throw down 20/20 and try to take it knowing we have 2 minutes before 50 defenders swarm us. They show up with 50, throw down 5-6 siege, and then just camp to victory, every time. Thats just bad.

Yes I realize you where scared from playing with tko, and now spend most your time trash talking AD.
When did I claim anything? If we end up with a bunch of AD we will admit to it, and try to move away as soon as we can. Also I really can't remember the last time we tried to take a keep.

I don't disagree that it is a problem, but I feel like everyone is overreacting. I understand that many of the AD on had have a crappy attitude. (for example I told them to stop gate camping and I was called a spy.)

I am not defending them, but I feel that everyone is overreacting. in a week or so EP or DC will be doing the exact same thing. That does not make it right, but i don't see the need for all the forums posts.

Exactly manny. People are acting like this is the first time they have witnessed an Alliance zerging or night capping.

I interpreted the OP as just a call to arms. Manny's defensiveness is what is the overreaction. What? We can't call to arms on the forums now to take back solid yellow campaigns from the ridiculous role players now? Come on. I logged on Thursday to update my build and by nature of where I was last, logged up in Had. It was totally yellow and all scrolls were in Ad territory. It felt nearly identical to what Ad did in TB when I met you, Manny. And you agreed then that the campaigns needed to have better balance. Why can't we utilize the forums to alert other players and guilds to a need for that balance in specific campaigns? Hmmmmmm?

If you looked at the 3 threads that existed at the time of this post, the others of which were whining and trash talking, not constructive nor appropriate, then you would understand why both Manny and I wrote what we did.

staracino_ESO wrote: »

I have not been active this week on my AD in Had, but I have earned 4870 AP so farm since the turnover. I am currently 699th place on the AD boards... that is a lot of AD.

hot damn... I only played for like an hour on Haderus this week (because there are so many AD to kill on Azura's as well but, with less lag!)
think I got like ~60k ap which put me in the top 75...

1 hour of play = top 75 Daggerfall

For thousands of years I lay dormant, who has disturbed my slumber...


In all seriousness though, the lag on Had, especially due to the Arrius LM fight with 80+ AD stacked in that tower, was beyond bad. Some people went to Trueflame, yes Trueflame because it actually lagged LESS, because of it.


AD needs to stop stacking the entire faction into one place, and sending the entire faction en masse to every single blip on the map. There was not a single fight I started or was part of last night on Had that contained less than 2 full raids of AD. It was ridiculous. I never had more than 20, not even once. To top that off, the so called innocents that claim they arent stacking with the pugs and so on, yeah you clearly are, I saw you plain as day at both Faregyl and Arrius. So can we drop the "i didnt do it, its someone else" facade?


I mean I even sent 4 guys each to five different keeps and flagged them simultaneously at one point last night. Just to see if I could get AD to stop stacking 3 raids together. No such luck. The entire zerg responded in turn to each flagging until finally showing up at the last second at the last target. (all the keeps had lit at roughly the same time +/- 5 seconds apart) When I heard in TS that a solid 40 had shown up at Drakelowe (to a 8/20 siege), and 2 minutes later the same 40 at Sej (to a solo player trying to take it after I called down the rest to alessia), with another 20 responding to the 4 guys at Faregyl, and them all converging on Alessia from both ends at the same time, seriously?

Meanwhile, still enough left up in good old chalman to zerg down my poor prepper team with 20+

AD had a queue of over 100 last night, I know because we checked. Do you not see how asinine this is?

There was little to no action on Had by the time I got on (11:30pm EST) so we ended up going to TF. Was crazy laggy but we had some nice fights with VE and Pact militia as well as the mass of pugs on EP and DC side. It was fun but really not that enjoyable since ping spiked to 1500 and fps dropped like crazy. I really hope more groups come to Haderus.....

Darnathian wrote: »

You would think exp vets would know better by now that it happens to everyone, not just EP.

Rylana take a step into TF and you will see EP has a bigger zerg.

So much for farming the crap out of AD. Heres a thought since you couldnt back up your smack talk.

Since its so easy to spread out factions. Get some of your EP mates to come to Haderus with you.

Cause it sounds the opposite since your so salty.

you got farmed by ad pugs. lol

Farming someone implies they had fewer numbers or greater skill. AD has neither. Additionally, can pretty much guarantee we made far more AP. Tis what happens when you fight 20v60+

We be farmin them hard tbqh. The lag last night ruined it more than anything else. The numbers werent the main problem, beyond contribution to lag itself. Also note others are mentioning the lag, so it aint just me.

dennissomb16_ESO wrote: »

Anytime one faction dominates a campaign for to long it impacts all 3 factions negatively. To make matters worse, logging in and seeing a map entirely one color can cause a lot of people to simply look elsewhere for fun (other campaigns or even PvE activity)

On the slightly more positive side, we have all seen maps flip colors completely. Just this week on Tuesday I believe in Haderus, I went to bed with map all yellow and woke up to an all red Map with EP Emp group grinding down on the last keep and scroll in yellow territory

Would this be "night capping"? What happened next, EP hung out at the gates till AD woke up?

NACtron wrote: »

heystreethawk wrote: »

Still holding out hope that the Had pops will magically adjust themselves -- having another Pact guild on will help! Kudos, Militia! -- but in all likelihood we'll be on Trueflame again for raid night tonight. Which is where, just to echo what Forza has said because I am sure he is getting tired of saying it, I have seen the other organized AD guilds each of the handful of times I have logged on this week. The AD guilds really don't want a one-sided, tedious campaign, and we are doing our best to adjust course for the health of the game that we still haven't quite given up on yet.

I didn't even think PvP had as many players period as we have pugs on Had, man :0 if the other factions can see that same influx of new faces, Cyrodiil could see a sorely needed shot in the arm. Or, I guess, it could turn out to be a shotgun blast to the face. It could go either way for Cyrodiil right now.

We ended up on trueflame last night. With DC managing to turtle Chal/roebeck we spent most of the night battling AD. Seemed to be more organized and together than usual for the AD on TF.

Yea we came to TF late and had some nice bombs on DC and EP, I think I saw you guys there as well. It was pretty fun surprisingly but the ping/fps issues really stink

I would guess that about 600+ of the AD on Had a) do not read the forums, b) do not organize themselves above maybe 5-6 players per group, and c) do not care enough to allow the other factions to get a foothold on the map. Good luck trying to tell them not to dogpile on top of any action that crops up. AD chat consists of 75% "Where is the action?" and 20% "LFG," and 4% is "Stop camping them at their gates." We are all open to ideas on how to get over 600 people across all hours of the day to listen.

Summary of this whole post:

Some random EP player: AD zerging in haderus
Rylan: AD has no skills
Some random DC player: ITs true AD have more heads in Haderus
Rylan: AD has no skills
Some random AD player: We do not zerg, we retaliate for EP zerging
Rylan: AD has no skills
Some other random EP player: Ok then we will bring reinforcement from TF
Rylan: AD has no skills
Some other random DC player player: No, all thoise AD ap is ours
Rylan: AD has no skills
Some other random ADplayer player: Bring your friends, we need mroe to fight
Rylan: AD has no skills
..
Rylan: AD has no skills
..
Rylan: AD has no skills

You see where I am going right


PS: It is true AD has more players in haderus. cause EP zerging in TF, If half of TF EP moves to haderus and half of haderus AD moves TF we can have our balance.

Rylana wrote: »

mrvbalc wrote: »

Summary of this whole post:

Some random EP player: AD zerging in haderus
Rylan: AD has no skills
Some random DC player: ITs true AD have more heads in Haderus
Rylan: AD has no skills
Some random AD player: We do not zerg, we retaliate for EP zerging
Rylan: AD has no skills
Some other random EP player: Ok then we will bring reinforcement from TF
Rylan: AD has no skills
Some other random DC player player: No, all thoise AD ap is ours
Rylan: AD has no skills
Some other random ADplayer player: Bring your friends, we need mroe to fight
Rylan: AD has no skills
..
Rylan: AD has no skills
..
Rylan: AD has no skills

You see where I am going right


PS: It is true AD has more players in haderus. cause EP zerging in TF, If half of TF EP moves to haderus and half of haderus AD moves TF we can have our balance.

AD has no skills.

Thank you for proving my point.

If we can get this thread to 10 pages without getting shut down I think we'll get a sweet dye out of it

ZOS cannot force you to pick a certain alliance, or play on a certain campaign. What exactly would you have them do to fix the population situation on Haderus?

Rylana wrote: »

Annnnd emp dethroned. I am logging out now, the other reds might cap emp, I dont know, blue has a keep on ring, but pwned is done.

Also yes, total shameless nightcap because his emp itself was nightcapped (3 days 2 hours 10 minutes ago)

Welcome back! Thanks for the AP at fare, and I thought you said VD bombs die easily.