I love how rylana randomly trashed talked AD after EP was dethroned. It is like I predicted this somewhere in this thread.The sky is not falling.
This is how had has been for as long as I can remember.
There is fighting during prime time.
When the fighting settles down someone night caps, and pushes the other factions to the gates.
One faction turtles with emp.
Rylana talks about how horrible AD where regardless of what side of the night capping he was on.
The cycle repeats.
Lately all the blame has been on AD, but EP where doing the exact same thing not long ago. I remember logging in multiple times to Zavus as Emp and a red map.
I am not saying that this is a correct thing, but the sky is not falling.The sky is not falling.
This is how had has been for as long as I can remember.
There is fighting during prime time.
When the fighting settles down someone night caps, and pushes the other factions to the gates.
One faction turtles with emp.
Rylana talks about how horrible AD where regardless of what side of the night capping he was on.
The cycle repeats.
Lately all the blame has been on AD, but EP where doing the exact same thing not long ago. I remember logging in multiple times to Zavus as Emp and a red map.
I am not saying that this is a correct thing, but the sky is not falling.
Rylana does not nightcap, try again. When fights die off, I log off or go do something else, usually zergdiving on Trueflame with my AD templar, actually.
I meant regardless of your factions position. if you defended emp you would talk about how bad AD was. If Ad had emp you would talk about how bad AD was.
Darnathian wrote: »forzajuve212 wrote: »forzajuve212 wrote: »forzajuve212 wrote: »forzajuve212 wrote: »And we have achieved lag over 2000, lololololol. AD with the 100 man dethrone zerg. Pathetic XD
Still took you 2 hours and 20+ camps, i dont get it, why cant you fight without stacking camps XD
Lol I was eagerly awaiting this. The fact that you act surprised that the game mechanic of emperorship funnels everyone in to a single objective is what really shocks me. What's even funnier is that someone of your experience still gets salty over large numbers at an emp keep like you have never seen this happen before. The even more hilarious part is that when we were defending emp earlier last week we had 70+ EP and 70+ DC inside Roe at once with multiple guild groups on both sides for 2 hours straight and we got a 21k d tick. Did we cry on the forums? Nope
Its the lag. You literally lagged the server to 2000 ping. You and your crapzerg pushed Haderus to Trueflame levels of lag.
You should be ashamed of that. Not proud.
Not surprised you had to bring that many though, we destroyed you all night long. I cannot believe how many terribad AD exist in this game, if not for the lollag that mighta continued another hour. Half my raid was complaining they were tired.
Me and my crapzerg? lmao your ego knows no bounds. I'm rolling in a group of 12 and you're attributing basic game mechanics of dethrone to me? Keep up the empty threats ryalana. I'm still waiting on you guys to push us back to our gates and have us farmed for months with a perma-red emp, as you claimed. You're all talk and no substance man.
Am I? Am I really all talk? The trend is already shifting, havent you noticed? In just a couple short days, the reds are starting to notice how delicious the AP is. More will come, and then AD will quit haderus again.
One guild, one single guild did all of this to you today (with an assist from another for one keep retake earler). Now, think long and hard this one: When we crowned emp this morning, I specifically logged off and did not gate camp you, I left AD with home pizza for a reason. In fact I wasnt even at the crowning, I left after dethrone. To prove a point, I have better sportsmanship than the ad trash does. (i abhor gate camping as a rule, i have never pushed them except to grab and run a scroll, never lingered, never prevented people from coming out)
But I know, ill wake up to 40 yellows at north morrowind tomorrow. It will start anew, and next time I might not have any mercy. Even I will only tolerate garbage for so long.
And the 200k ap each night my guild farms from you (or more depending on situation), will make it all worth it. Not only will you eventually run out of camps at this rate (lol you guys used over 50 tonight total, easily, thats a million AP alone right there, and i was watching the AD groups ap gains on the leaderboard, you guys made less than 40k tonight), but youre going to face ever increasing numbers now that the word is out how much you potatozerg.
All talk, or can i see the future. Youll see.
Lol @ your claim to the moral high ground
Only one thing to say
I did, and i took home 5 times the AP you did tonight.
Also, since you want to use rasslin analogies, youre less like the rock, and more like a stable of 20 jobbers or midcarders booked in a 20 on 1 handicap match. Its really funny when you challenge me to bring it, with 10-20x my numbers to back you.
Sad.
Lol you're just making a fool of yourself man. Not my problem anyhow, do as you please.
Nah, pretty sure anyone whos not on AD is agreeing with everything ive said up til this point. It made me giggle really really hard when AD pop dropped from locked to 2 bars when a certain trueflame guild showed up tonight at brk though. The terror is real.
Then of course came crawling back after they were sure theyd left....
NOPE. everyone is laughing at you. You notice how the great players and guilds dont talk trash on the forums?
Thats because they are ACTUALLY GOOD.
this is why i think there should be a no emp server. to many people cry about it and then it all lags. then people complain about it more.
rfennell_ESO wrote: »A lot of EP/DC talk about zergs.
When in fact other than some run around with healers and drop FC's constantly "ap farmers" groups that largely fight unorganized random defenders at meaningless resources I've seen some pretty large zergs from both factions.
The only thing I know about these organized groups from DC and to a lesser extent EP is that they tend to dodge a lot. They talk a lot of crap, but it's easy to talk crap when you are exploiting shuffle as policy.
forzajuve212 wrote: »forzajuve212 wrote: »forzajuve212 wrote: »And we have achieved lag over 2000, lololololol. AD with the 100 man dethrone zerg. Pathetic XD
Still took you 2 hours and 20+ camps, i dont get it, why cant you fight without stacking camps XD
Lol I was eagerly awaiting this. The fact that you act surprised that the game mechanic of emperorship funnels everyone in to a single objective is what really shocks me. What's even funnier is that someone of your experience still gets salty over large numbers at an emp keep like you have never seen this happen before. The even more hilarious part is that when we were defending emp earlier last week we had 70+ EP and 70+ DC inside Roe at once with multiple guild groups on both sides for 2 hours straight and we got a 21k d tick. Did we cry on the forums? Nope
Its the lag. You literally lagged the server to 2000 ping. You and your crapzerg pushed Haderus to Trueflame levels of lag.
You should be ashamed of that. Not proud.
Not surprised you had to bring that many though, we destroyed you all night long. I cannot believe how many terribad AD exist in this game, if not for the lollag that mighta continued another hour. Half my raid was complaining they were tired.
Me and my crapzerg? lmao your ego knows no bounds. I'm rolling in a group of 12 and you're attributing basic game mechanics of dethrone to me? Keep up the empty threats ryalana. I'm still waiting on you guys to push us back to our gates and have us farmed for months with a perma-red emp, as you claimed. You're all talk and no substance man.
Am I? Am I really all talk? The trend is already shifting, havent you noticed? In just a couple short days, the reds are starting to notice how delicious the AP is. More will come, and then AD will quit haderus again.
One guild, one single guild did all of this to you today (with an assist from another for one keep retake earler). Now, think long and hard this one: When we crowned emp this morning, I specifically logged off and did not gate camp you, I left AD with home pizza for a reason. In fact I wasnt even at the crowning, I left after dethrone. To prove a point, I have better sportsmanship than the ad trash does. (i abhor gate camping as a rule, i have never pushed them except to grab and run a scroll, never lingered, never prevented people from coming out)
But I know, ill wake up to 40 yellows at north morrowind tomorrow. It will start anew, and next time I might not have any mercy. Even I will only tolerate garbage for so long.
And the 200k ap each night my guild farms from you (or more depending on situation), will make it all worth it. Not only will you eventually run out of camps at this rate (lol you guys used over 50 tonight total, easily, thats a million AP alone right there, and i was watching the AD groups ap gains on the leaderboard, you guys made less than 40k tonight), but youre going to face ever increasing numbers now that the word is out how much you potatozerg.
All talk, or can i see the future. Youll see.
Lol @ your claim to the moral high ground
Only one thing to say
I did, and i took home 5 times the AP you did tonight.
Also, since you want to use rasslin analogies, youre less like the rock, and more like a stable of 20 jobbers or midcarders booked in a 20 on 1 handicap match. Its really funny when you challenge me to bring it, with 10-20x my numbers to back you.
Sad.
this is why i think there should be a no emp server. to many people cry about it and then it all lags. then people complain about it more.
Publius_Scipio wrote: »this is why i think there should be a no emp server. to many people cry about it and then it all lags. then people complain about it more.
Well all these great players, eventually they post videos or are on streams or something. First thing you learn is many of them are 15-17 years old and just finished high school homework.
SturgeHammer wrote: »this is why i think there should be a no emp server. to many people cry about it and then it all lags. then people complain about it more.
I like this idea, but it probably wouldn't be a very popular campaign. Maybe a tweaking of throne/dethrone conditions to spread the action across the map would be better received.
Having just logged off for the night from haddie with map mostly yellow and we were stomping the Red zergbads at chalman thank you for 200 k plus AP in a couple of hours. We also held ash for over an hour and let you knock the walls down multiple times just to farm. How did that work out for you? We actually went to tf saw the map was also mostly yellow so that is no Bueno. Next time one of your faction wants to challenge someone with nothing to back it up I would seriously considered refraining. As an important side note some of our guildies who mostly play on blue got on thier ad toons just to kill reds and blues due to this post so I think you did more harm than good. You see AD's only real enemy is AD but you gave us something else to focus on. So for that and the tons of ap I got this last few days I sincerely thank you. I will see you tomorrow... Same bat time... Same bat channel.
lol? no one on the ad leaderboard broke 50k gains tonight, i was checking them. also lol @ "stomping" EP at chal. 2 hour siege, 20+ camps used by AD, throwing themselves into the breach and dying over and over and over and over and over and over.
I was also amused at the foolishness of trying to hold that hill by the front door, that was priceless. There they died over and over and over and over and over.
So i dunno who youre trying to fool, but theres bluster, and then theres straight up lie, and you sir are strongly on the side of lie XD
PrinceFabious wrote: »Having just logged off for the night from haddie with map mostly yellow and we were stomping the Red zergbads at chalman thank you for 200 k plus AP in a couple of hours. We also held ash for over an hour and let you knock the walls down multiple times just to farm. How did that work out for you? We actually went to tf saw the map was also mostly yellow so that is no Bueno. Next time one of your faction wants to challenge someone with nothing to back it up I would seriously considered refraining. As an important side note some of our guildies who mostly play on blue got on thier ad toons just to kill reds and blues due to this post so I think you did more harm than good. You see AD's only real enemy is AD but you gave us something else to focus on. So for that and the tons of ap I got this last few days I sincerely thank you. I will see you tomorrow... Same bat time... Same bat channel.
lol? no one on the ad leaderboard broke 50k gains tonight, i was checking them. also lol @ "stomping" EP at chal. 2 hour siege, 20+ camps used by AD, throwing themselves into the breach and dying over and over and over and over and over and over.
I was also amused at the foolishness of trying to hold that hill by the front door, that was priceless. There they died over and over and over and over and over.
So i dunno who youre trying to fool, but theres bluster, and then theres straight up lie, and you sir are strongly on the side of lie XD
I was there! This is factual. If I do remember correctly..AD was the only faction poplocked. Do you know why there are so many AD in Haddy? Because they cant handle the EP in TF so they come to zurg haddy. All good. I ended the night with a, no joke, KDR of 37. LOL #everyEPequalsfiveAD
forzajuve212 wrote: »PrinceFabious wrote: »Having just logged off for the night from haddie with map mostly yellow and we were stomping the Red zergbads at chalman thank you for 200 k plus AP in a couple of hours. We also held ash for over an hour and let you knock the walls down multiple times just to farm. How did that work out for you? We actually went to tf saw the map was also mostly yellow so that is no Bueno. Next time one of your faction wants to challenge someone with nothing to back it up I would seriously considered refraining. As an important side note some of our guildies who mostly play on blue got on thier ad toons just to kill reds and blues due to this post so I think you did more harm than good. You see AD's only real enemy is AD but you gave us something else to focus on. So for that and the tons of ap I got this last few days I sincerely thank you. I will see you tomorrow... Same bat time... Same bat channel.
lol? no one on the ad leaderboard broke 50k gains tonight, i was checking them. also lol @ "stomping" EP at chal. 2 hour siege, 20+ camps used by AD, throwing themselves into the breach and dying over and over and over and over and over and over.
I was also amused at the foolishness of trying to hold that hill by the front door, that was priceless. There they died over and over and over and over and over.
So i dunno who youre trying to fool, but theres bluster, and then theres straight up lie, and you sir are strongly on the side of lie XD
I was there! This is factual. If I do remember correctly..AD was the only faction poplocked. Do you know why there are so many AD in Haddy? Because they cant handle the EP in TF so they come to zurg haddy. All good. I ended the night with a, no joke, KDR of 37. LOL #everyEPequalsfiveAD
Arinar Sillynious - member of the Darkest Rectum
antihero727 wrote: »Please we beat havok when they were a "print screen macro" "modified client" guild.
TKO never beat Havoc. The drakelowe incident where 12 Havoc guys wiped literally 60 TKO (yes 2 and a half raids) on the same set of stairs was the day I realized I was in the wrong guild.
I dont even like a lot of the guys in Havoc either, and I know enough to say flat out TKO never once beat them. They got a couple zergball kills or stealthbombed (with 40 guys) a couple of them, but I have.... some very cringeworthy memories of those days. I was legit ashamed to be associated with the guild. I wanted to cut group size to 12-24, and trim a lot of fat because clearly it was about 10-12 people doing all the work while the lemmings were just useless fodder. Strength in numbers? its actually a weakness because it makes individual players in the group weaker.
I used to take 6-8 man groups onto the Chillrend buff server during Kami's reign and farm blues there with 1/5 to 1/8 of what a TKO raid night had. Made more AP on those nights than I ever did with TKO. I learned real quick. My attendance became less and less, and Drakelowe ended it for me. I was just done at that point.
2 1/2 raids.... wiped by 12 guys in a postern tower. I just dont even.
PrinceFabious wrote: »forzajuve212 wrote: »PrinceFabious wrote: »Having just logged off for the night from haddie with map mostly yellow and we were stomping the Red zergbads at chalman thank you for 200 k plus AP in a couple of hours. We also held ash for over an hour and let you knock the walls down multiple times just to farm. How did that work out for you? We actually went to tf saw the map was also mostly yellow so that is no Bueno. Next time one of your faction wants to challenge someone with nothing to back it up I would seriously considered refraining. As an important side note some of our guildies who mostly play on blue got on thier ad toons just to kill reds and blues due to this post so I think you did more harm than good. You see AD's only real enemy is AD but you gave us something else to focus on. So for that and the tons of ap I got this last few days I sincerely thank you. I will see you tomorrow... Same bat time... Same bat channel.
lol? no one on the ad leaderboard broke 50k gains tonight, i was checking them. also lol @ "stomping" EP at chal. 2 hour siege, 20+ camps used by AD, throwing themselves into the breach and dying over and over and over and over and over and over.
I was also amused at the foolishness of trying to hold that hill by the front door, that was priceless. There they died over and over and over and over and over.
So i dunno who youre trying to fool, but theres bluster, and then theres straight up lie, and you sir are strongly on the side of lie XD
I was there! This is factual. If I do remember correctly..AD was the only faction poplocked. Do you know why there are so many AD in Haddy? Because they cant handle the EP in TF so they come to zurg haddy. All good. I ended the night with a, no joke, KDR of 37. LOL #everyEPequalsfiveAD
Arinar Sillynious - member of the Darkest Rectum
If thats your only response to that. Then please, enjoy your laugh
DisgracefulMind wrote: »I see this thread didn't work
I logged on to feed my horse this afternoon and AD was making sure that they had all the keeps, even though there are no scrolls. lol.
....We actually went to tf saw the map was also mostly yellow so that is no Bueno....
RDMyers65b14_ESO wrote: »I will say that there is more AD on Haderus than DC on all of the campaigns. (PC - NA)
MaximillianDiE wrote: »RDMyers65b14_ESO wrote: »I will say that there is more AD on Haderus than DC on all of the campaigns. (PC - NA)
But speaking as a completely unbiased and objective participant (no really ) with no tongue pushed firmly into the side of my cheek and no intention to add fuel to the fire of this magnificent thread - its ok, we're better!
I love it when the map is yellow! For the Queen! Too bad king emric and joruun have a bunch of whiners as followers, meh, squeal all you want. If I get a chance to take a keep with no resistance imma go for it. Push them back to their gates. If they want pvp let then have it at their gates. Remember my yellow brothers and sisters, show no mercy, show no quarter. The only thing they can do is waaaah waaaah waaaah on the forums while we pillage their keeps.
Or how about you take a shot at Trueflame and stop being a wimp? I dont even play there as EP, but clearly youre afraid of anything that isnt you with 20 guys fighting one person.
Mark my words, your trash talk is going to come back to bite you, once a few key EP guilds learn of the AP to be had on Haderus farming you scrubs, expect redmap for the next six months.
Im trying to make it competitive, but idiots like you just make the faction want to squash you til you quit. And you will quit, the moment youre not on top. Like every other lemming baddie.
LOL I've been around long enough to see reds take the whole map for months, then the one time you people start to lose you come on forums and "waaaah ZoS! AD gate camping me Waaaaaaah" instead of making me mark your words, why not get off the forums and come on in? OH I KNOW, you don't want to leave your buff campaign right? Why should I move? I like that the whole map is yellow. I admit it, I couldn't give two hoots about all of you. I get my buff server and my tier rewards for gatecamping. So if you ain't happy, I'm just saying, why not leave your little home in TF? And I play on TF as well, I enjoy VD bombing huge groups. Best 175k necklace I bought. And yes I use VD, so call me cheese or whatever you want, I like AP and I don't care how I get it, whether it's by gatecamping or whether it's by using a cheese build. As long as the Queen has the majority of the map, the ruby throne is ours.
I love it when the map is yellow! For the Queen! Too bad king emric and joruun have a bunch of whiners as followers, meh, squeal all you want. If I get a chance to take a keep with no resistance imma go for it. Push them back to their gates. If they want pvp let then have it at their gates. Remember my yellow brothers and sisters, show no mercy, show no quarter. The only thing they can do is waaaah waaaah waaaah on the forums while we pillage their keeps.
Or how about you take a shot at Trueflame and stop being a wimp? I dont even play there as EP, but clearly youre afraid of anything that isnt you with 20 guys fighting one person.
Mark my words, your trash talk is going to come back to bite you, once a few key EP guilds learn of the AP to be had on Haderus farming you scrubs, expect redmap for the next six months.
Im trying to make it competitive, but idiots like you just make the faction want to squash you til you quit. And you will quit, the moment youre not on top. Like every other lemming baddie.
LOL I've been around long enough to see reds take the whole map for months, then the one time you people start to lose you come on forums and "waaaah ZoS! AD gate camping me Waaaaaaah" instead of making me mark your words, why not get off the forums and come on in? OH I KNOW, you don't want to leave your buff campaign right? Why should I move? I like that the whole map is yellow. I admit it, I couldn't give two hoots about all of you. I get my buff server and my tier rewards for gatecamping. So if you ain't happy, I'm just saying, why not leave your little home in TF? And I play on TF as well, I enjoy VD bombing huge groups. Best 175k necklace I bought. And yes I use VD, so call me cheese or whatever you want, I like AP and I don't care how I get it, whether it's by gatecamping or whether it's by using a cheese build. As long as the Queen has the majority of the map, the ruby throne is ours.
Sounds like to I need take the glorious Pact Militia Mega zerg on a vacation from Trueflame over to haddy.
staracino_ESO wrote: »SturgeHammer wrote: »this is why i think there should be a no emp server. to many people cry about it and then it all lags. then people complain about it more.
I like this idea, but it probably wouldn't be a very popular campaign. Maybe a tweaking of throne/dethrone conditions to spread the action across the map would be better received.
With the way emp currently works and the way the playerbase has been handling it pretty much since launch, I think it is high time to re-evaluate how emp is earned. A few campaigns ago, I fought my way to second place for my faction. Great, right? Too bad at second place I only had HALF of the AP of the #1. This was me logging over 50 hours for the week, being at every major battle, and doing extremely well. Meanwhile, #1 is nowhere to be found, still raking in way more AP/hr than I could hope to make, playing somewhere completely not-important to the overall campaign.
System sucks. I have quite a few ideas to revamp it, but for starters: any time someone is crowned, they should lose half of their current score, but be permanently marked down for top 2% rewards. That way, they get the best possible rewards for participation, but they can't hog emp for the whole campaign unless they really earn it, and they get their reign as emperor to help them recoup the lost score.
I think PvP would benefit greatly from having some new faces as emperor; especially if they are charismatic and can lead their faction (pugs) to greatness with their words and actions. Most emperors nowadays are either silent or too serious.
Yes, I am salty that I did not jump on the bandwagon when there were like 6 empty buff servers, but I think anyone who dedicates a lot of time should be able to earn it without being blocked by someone who has the connections to get fed AP to inflate their score. (Let's not pretend it doesn't happen all the time.)