deadlock007 wrote: »

I have already bought and used both. They are pretty neat (repair option and guild bank access would make them awesome of course) and I can see them being useful when I am running dungeons, trials, while farming, doing writs etc..... I don't understand why people are so shocked at the price when some motifs were 5k also.

I don't buy motifs either. Overpriced and for just one character. Nor do I buy riding lessons, xp scrolls, etc. I do buy mounts and the odd pet (not all, just the ones I really like) and a handful of costumes. All were under 3k and are available to all.

I was looking forward to the assistants, but at that price, I'll manage without.

Lots of stuff coming in April that I really want, so would rather make my crowns go the distance on those instead.

AlienSlof wrote: »

ZOS_GregoryV wrote: »

Greetings all,

We are glad to see everyone voicing their opinions in regards to the assistance. Now as this thread has become rather heated, we have removed a few posts for Flaming to help keep this civil and constructive.

Flaming: It’s okay to disagree and debate on the official ESO forums, but we do ask that you keep all disagreements civil, constructive, and on-topic. If a discussion gets heated and turns into a debate, remember that you should stick to debating the post and/or thread topic. It is never appropriate to resort to personal comments or jabs about those participating in the thread discussion.

But are you people actually TAKING NOTE of the sentiments here? This is GREED, pure and simple. Greed.

Did someone say: 'Let's see how far we can fleece our players before they stop paying'?

That price for full functionality, then maybe, yes, but for gimped services that you can get better in town? NO.

"Greed"? How profitable do you think ESO is?

Your cynicism seems out of touch with how people in companies like these actually think. They want revenue to keep the business healthy and profitable so that they don't have to close shop.

Consider that people might use these assistants for 5-10 years. Their value won't diminish the same way that vanity items or motifs get boring and played out. I don't see how assistants for 5000 is overpriced when people buy mounts for 2000 when they already have mounts. People spend 5k on motifs that they lose interest in a month later. The assistants will still be incredibly convenient 5 years from now.

Enodoc wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

I don't know why people defend them.

Because a business model where necessary stuff (DLC) is cheap and unnecessary stuff (assitants, mounts, pets, costumes) is expensive is GOOD FOR ME, and good for all of us.

I agree with you there, but that fluff stuff should be comparable. They're more useful than cosmetics, so that puts them above 1,000. They're more niche than mounts, so that puts them above 1,800. But is an assistant with such limited functionality worth as much as a Gold motif? They're both time-savers, but buying a motif saves a lot more time than going to the nearest city, and has no downsides.


Also you seem to have a random dot at the bottom of some of your posts, which is visually jarring

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

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But motifs do nothing for you. Motifs will be old and boring (assuming you ever cared about them, which I don't) 4 years from now when the assistant is still doing their job. Motifs are mostly to satisfy completionists or to sell to completionists. How many motifs do you have that you have never used? I suspect quite a few.

AlienSlof wrote: »

deadlock007 wrote: »

I have already bought and used both. They are pretty neat (repair option and guild bank access would make them awesome of course) and I can see them being useful when I am running dungeons, trials, while farming, doing writs etc..... I don't understand why people are so shocked at the price when some motifs were 5k also.

I don't buy motifs either. Overpriced and for just one character. Nor do I buy riding lessons, xp scrolls, etc. I do buy mounts and the odd pet (not all, just the ones I really like) and a handful of costumes. All were under 3k and are available to all.

I was looking forward to the assistants, but at that price, I'll manage without.

Lots of stuff coming in April that I really want, so would rather make my crowns go the distance on those instead.

You sound reasonable in your reply so this is not a criticism of you. On the other hand, I find it absurd that people who spend 2k and vanity items like mounts take issue with 5k for something that actually adds major convenience to gameplay such as bank access.

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

AlienSlof wrote: »

ZOS_GregoryV wrote: »

Greetings all,

We are glad to see everyone voicing their opinions in regards to the assistance. Now as this thread has become rather heated, we have removed a few posts for Flaming to help keep this civil and constructive.

Flaming: It’s okay to disagree and debate on the official ESO forums, but we do ask that you keep all disagreements civil, constructive, and on-topic. If a discussion gets heated and turns into a debate, remember that you should stick to debating the post and/or thread topic. It is never appropriate to resort to personal comments or jabs about those participating in the thread discussion.

But are you people actually TAKING NOTE of the sentiments here? This is GREED, pure and simple. Greed.

Did someone say: 'Let's see how far we can fleece our players before they stop paying'?

That price for full functionality, then maybe, yes, but for gimped services that you can get better in town? NO.

"Greed"? How profitable do you think ESO is?

Your cynicism seems out of touch with how people in companies like these actually think. They want revenue to keep the business healthy and profitable so that they don't have to close shop.

Consider that people might use these assistants for 5-10 years. Their value won't diminish the same way that vanity items or motifs get boring and played out. I don't see how assistants for 5000 is overpriced when people buy mounts for 2000 when they already have mounts. People spend 5k on motifs that they lose interest in a month later. The assistants will still be incredibly convenient 5 years from now.

I think the person out of touch here is you. Ive worked in retail and I can tell you that when it comes to pricing...It can definitely be a touch of greed.

The company isnt working to keep their doors opened. Theyre working to make a profit. By cutting costs and squeezing the customer for every penny theyre manipulated to part with. You know how I know its manipulative? Pay attention to the cost of items before Black Friday and the "Sales Price" of something on Black Friday. Its the same price. Theyll do the same thing with other items through out the year with their Store Loyalty Perks Cards. Theyll list an item as cheaper with a perks card and about a day or so into the deal theyll have employees go through the store and remove the old price tag/sales tag and replace it with a different one. Where the new price is higher and the new sales price tag is what the old price tag was.

The Merchant and Banker are currently in the Stores now and take a wild guess at how they worded their descriptions. No mention of the fact the Merchant wont repair your items or sell you anything. And with the Banker is labeled differently from the notification to the actual description in the store making it seem as if he does more than just put stuff in your personal bank.

The truth is that a company wouldnt need to be manipulative to be profitable. If your wares are of good quality....you wouldnt need to mislead anyone.

deadlock007 wrote: »

Waseem wrote: »

deadlock007 wrote: »

I find it absurd that people who spend 2k and vanity items like mounts take issue with 5k for something that actually adds major convenience to gameplay such as bank access.

if some one new to the game and reads your comment, he will think that he must travel 30 minutes across tamriel to find a banker

I just want to point out that you have me quoted as saying this, which I didn't, I would also like to point out that I agree with the person you quoted though.

Its far from a major convenience. A minor convenience yes. A major one? No. The average joe player will not see their moneys worth and they wont see a serious advantage to having these over just porting to a city and spending five minutes there.

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

AlienSlof wrote: »

deadlock007 wrote: »

I have already bought and used both. They are pretty neat (repair option and guild bank access would make them awesome of course) and I can see them being useful when I am running dungeons, trials, while farming, doing writs etc..... I don't understand why people are so shocked at the price when some motifs were 5k also.

I don't buy motifs either. Overpriced and for just one character. Nor do I buy riding lessons, xp scrolls, etc. I do buy mounts and the odd pet (not all, just the ones I really like) and a handful of costumes. All were under 3k and are available to all.

I was looking forward to the assistants, but at that price, I'll manage without.

Lots of stuff coming in April that I really want, so would rather make my crowns go the distance on those instead.

You sound reasonable in your reply so this is not a criticism of you. On the other hand, I find it absurd that people who spend 2k and vanity items like mounts take issue with 5k for something that actually adds major convenience to gameplay such as bank access.

Really? Because I bought the 2k fire horse happily, have had it for a long time and love it, same with my cat pet. Some things I will pay for, but this is insane, you dont see a difference between a 2k MOUNT, and a 5k assistant? Its more than double....

All I'll say is that seeing these assistant prices have made me VERY glad that I have absolutely zero interest in things like race changes, class changes, alliance changes, a barber shop, and player housing. Because if these two NPCs are 5k crowns each, then all those other things (that people have been clamoring for since the crown store was opened) are going to be even more ludicrously priced.

The 5k price would be fine if the merchant repaired and banker actually had a guild bank and store. I also wish they just came out with one NPC that was everything in one. Now that would be convenient. Going to be really sad if they come out with a repair npc, guild bank, or trader. That would definitely show they just want money outta them.

BomblePants wrote: »

It is such an extreme amount of money that I can only come to the conclusion that zos are testing the community to see exactly just how much we are willing to pay for desirable items/features....

Absolutely agree that's what they're doing. "Let's see how far we can go" seems to be the business model.

amberjl_S wrote: »

Absolutely agree that's what they're doing. "Let's see how far we can go" seems to be the business model.

Sadly, this is par for the course in the MMO industry now. Look around most MMOs with a cash shop. whether sub, B2P, F2P or hybrid, and you'll see this going on. It takes various forms from game to game, but the underlying greed is the same.

It feels to me as if the studios know that the popularity of MMOs as a genre is waning and they're all just milking their respective player bases while they can. They mask this as "keeping the game afloat" but precious little seems to get reinvested into fixing bugs, server upgrades or developing quality, polished content. Most established MMOs are now in what can best be called 'maintenance mode'.

If players want to buy these overpriced cash shop items if it brings you pleasure, then it's their choice. But please don't dress it up as "saving the game" or "keeping the game afloat" because that's not what's happening here.

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

AlienSlof wrote: »

ZOS_GregoryV wrote: »

Greetings all,

We are glad to see everyone voicing their opinions in regards to the assistance. Now as this thread has become rather heated, we have removed a few posts for Flaming to help keep this civil and constructive.

Flaming: It’s okay to disagree and debate on the official ESO forums, but we do ask that you keep all disagreements civil, constructive, and on-topic. If a discussion gets heated and turns into a debate, remember that you should stick to debating the post and/or thread topic. It is never appropriate to resort to personal comments or jabs about those participating in the thread discussion.

But are you people actually TAKING NOTE of the sentiments here? This is GREED, pure and simple. Greed.

Did someone say: 'Let's see how far we can fleece our players before they stop paying'?

That price for full functionality, then maybe, yes, but for gimped services that you can get better in town? NO.

"Greed"? How profitable do you think ESO is?

Your cynicism seems out of touch with how people in companies like these actually think. They want revenue to keep the business healthy and profitable so that they don't have to close shop.

Consider that people might use these assistants for 5-10 years. Their value won't diminish the same way that vanity items or motifs get boring and played out. I don't see how assistants for 5000 is overpriced when people buy mounts for 2000 when they already have mounts. People spend 5k on motifs that they lose interest in a month later. The assistants will still be incredibly convenient 5 years from now.

I think the person out of touch here is you. Ive worked in retail and I can tell you that when it comes to pricing...It can definitely be a touch of greed.

The company isnt working to keep their doors opened. Theyre working to make a profit. By cutting costs and squeezing the customer for every penny theyre manipulated to part with. You know how I know its manipulative? Pay attention to the cost of items before Black Friday and the "Sales Price" of something on Black Friday. Its the same price. Theyll do the same thing with other items through out the year with their Store Loyalty Perks Cards. Theyll list an item as cheaper with a perks card and about a day or so into the deal theyll have employees go through the store and remove the old price tag/sales tag and replace it with a different one. Where the new price is higher and the new sales price tag is what the old price tag was.

The Merchant and Banker are currently in the Stores now and take a wild guess at how they worded their descriptions. No mention of the fact the Merchant wont repair your items or sell you anything. And with the Banker is labeled differently from the notification to the actual description in the store making it seem as if he does more than just put stuff in your personal bank.

The truth is that a company wouldnt need to be manipulative to be profitable. If your wares are of good quality....you wouldnt need to mislead anyone.

Why would they mention what they won't do?

And keeping prices high and then doing regular sales is the norm these days in sales. That is why I only buy many things on sale. I also track prices to know if the sales are real. Don't confuse psychological games for greed. There is a lot of competition for people's money and quality doesn't really sell. Marketing sells. People don't know the quality until they have already bought the item.

Perhaps the people complaining about the price are just as greedy?

I can afford both but won't buy either. I don't agree with the price, should be anything between 1,500-2,500 each. Whilst it is account wide and very useful it has two major limitations like the lack of repair and guild bank / store. Definately not worth 5,000 crowns that is almost 2 DLCs combined.

I won't be touching the assistants till I see the new senche on sale.

I've missed out of the cheetah twice. I shall not miss that crazy demon spawn from the ground cat!