Ball groups wont really stay in ball groups now cause they cant. Ball groups before have always stayed as ball groups though. I dont buy into the spreading thing. Ive fought them, Ive seen other guilds fight them. They balled up. They werent doing expert maneuvers or strategy. Theyre going to a spot in a ball. Nobody in the world should ever desire this. And if you scattered, youd get a portion of your group chunked out, and be unable to fight what remains. So they were always balled up.
I dont mean to diminish players or their guilds or their talents. But balling in this game or other MMOs is among the lowest skilled level of mass PVP Ive seen in any MMOs Ive PVPd in - or any game play from any genre Ive seen. Its why a lot of people have wanted it gone since it started to develop. Its why a lot of the really good guilds in this game quit a long time ago.
Its not really your fault - given the mechanics ZOS put in.
Its so easy...ENTIRE PUG zergs in Gw2 do it....So anyone claiming it was skill was woefully delusional.
xEcthelionx wrote: »xEcthelionx wrote: »This is what I love. Seeing someone who can't play other classes, following the ZoS induced garbage meta and creating more bandwagon videos.
Too much salt is bad for your health.
Coming to PS4 and getting smacked is bad for yours. Stick to PC and youtube where you can copy other people's builds and cheese for subs against bad players.
Ball groups wont really stay in ball groups now cause they cant. Ball groups before have always stayed as ball groups though. I dont buy into the spreading thing. Ive fought them, Ive seen other guilds fight them. They balled up. They werent doing expert maneuvers or strategy. Theyre going to a spot in a ball. Nobody in the world should ever desire this. And if you scattered, youd get a portion of your group chunked out, and be unable to fight what remains. So they were always balled up.
I dont mean to diminish players or their guilds or their talents. But balling in this game or other MMOs is among the lowest skilled level of mass PVP Ive seen in any MMOs Ive PVPd in - or any game play from any genre Ive seen. Its why a lot of people have wanted it gone since it started to develop. Its why a lot of the really good guilds in this game quit a long time ago.
Its not really your fault - given the mechanics ZOS put in.
Its so easy...ENTIRE PUG zergs in Gw2 do it....So anyone claiming it was skill was woefully delusional.
GW2 is like 27 times harder game to play, you cant compare its casual players to casual ones on ESO.
Ball groups wont really stay in ball groups now cause they cant. Ball groups before have always stayed as ball groups though. I dont buy into the spreading thing. Ive fought them, Ive seen other guilds fight them. They balled up. They werent doing expert maneuvers or strategy. Theyre going to a spot in a ball. Nobody in the world should ever desire this. And if you scattered, youd get a portion of your group chunked out, and be unable to fight what remains. So they were always balled up.
I dont mean to diminish players or their guilds or their talents. But balling in this game or other MMOs is among the lowest skilled level of mass PVP Ive seen in any MMOs Ive PVPd in - or any game play from any genre Ive seen. Its why a lot of people have wanted it gone since it started to develop. Its why a lot of the really good guilds in this game quit a long time ago.
Its not really your fault - given the mechanics ZOS put in.
Its so easy...ENTIRE PUG zergs in Gw2 do it....So anyone claiming it was skill was woefully delusional.
GW2 is like 27 times harder game to play, you cant compare its casual players to casual ones on ESO.
Not really...I don't find it remotely harder to play at all.
Ball groups wont really stay in ball groups now cause they cant. Ball groups before have always stayed as ball groups though. I dont buy into the spreading thing. Ive fought them, Ive seen other guilds fight them. They balled up. They werent doing expert maneuvers or strategy. Theyre going to a spot in a ball. Nobody in the world should ever desire this. And if you scattered, youd get a portion of your group chunked out, and be unable to fight what remains. So they were always balled up.
I dont mean to diminish players or their guilds or their talents. But balling in this game or other MMOs is among the lowest skilled level of mass PVP Ive seen in any MMOs Ive PVPd in - or any game play from any genre Ive seen. Its why a lot of people have wanted it gone since it started to develop. Its why a lot of the really good guilds in this game quit a long time ago.
Its not really your fault - given the mechanics ZOS put in.
Its so easy...ENTIRE PUG zergs in Gw2 do it....So anyone claiming it was skill was woefully delusional.
GW2 is like 27 times harder game to play, you cant compare its casual players to casual ones on ESO.
Not really...I don't find it remotely harder to play at all.
Is it harder to play than DAOC?
Master_Kas wrote: »Didn't quite get 13, but got 9 yellows so it will do
Had to cut and paste the KB's since they didn't fit in my chat window. 9 kills, sadly there was 15 more people there and I was aggroed by guards so got rekt in the end. But totally worth it !

LegendaryChef wrote: »Master_Kas wrote: »Didn't quite get 13, but got 9 yellows so it will do
Had to cut and paste the KB's since they didn't fit in my chat window. 9 kills, sadly there was 15 more people there and I was aggroed by guards so got rekt in the end. But totally worth it !
Noob!
LegendaryChef wrote: »Master_Kas wrote: »Didn't quite get 13, but got 9 yellows so it will do
Had to cut and paste the KB's since they didn't fit in my chat window. 9 kills, sadly there was 15 more people there and I was aggroed by guards so got rekt in the end. But totally worth it !
Noob!
Master_Kas wrote: »LegendaryChef wrote: »Master_Kas wrote: »Didn't quite get 13, but got 9 yellows so it will do
Had to cut and paste the KB's since they didn't fit in my chat window. 9 kills, sadly there was 15 more people there and I was aggroed by guards so got rekt in the end. But totally worth it !
Noob!
Lool rekt xD .
How can you make your chat window so long oO.
leepalmer95 wrote: »LegendaryChef wrote: »Master_Kas wrote: »Didn't quite get 13, but got 9 yellows so it will do
Had to cut and paste the KB's since they didn't fit in my chat window. 9 kills, sadly there was 15 more people there and I was aggroed by guards so got rekt in the end. But totally worth it !
Noob!
You the noob with your phone s/s
Master_Kas wrote: »LegendaryChef wrote: »Master_Kas wrote: »Didn't quite get 13, but got 9 yellows so it will do
Had to cut and paste the KB's since they didn't fit in my chat window. 9 kills, sadly there was 15 more people there and I was aggroed by guards so got rekt in the end. But totally worth it !
Noob!
Lool rekt xD .
How can you make your chat window so long oO.

Knootewoot wrote: »Master_Kas wrote: »LegendaryChef wrote: »Master_Kas wrote: »Didn't quite get 13, but got 9 yellows so it will do
Had to cut and paste the KB's since they didn't fit in my chat window. 9 kills, sadly there was 15 more people there and I was aggroed by guards so got rekt in the end. But totally worth it !
Noob!
Lool rekt xD .
How can you make your chat window so long oO.
On PC I can just pull the chatwindow's top all the way to the above part of the screen. I use it a lot when I missed important guildchat. When hovering around the top edge you can see a dual arrow cursor.
@Satiar had a blast fighting your group last night around Chalman Milegate. Them Phoenix sets are an excellent idea for surviving in this meta. I do have one request...
Stop tab-targeting me for meteors. 5 times I had Shooting Star from you hit me. Even when I was nowhere near anyone else and was like "Oh yeah, no meteors this time!" BAM meteor incoming "You blocked RP Nord Name that I can't remember how to spell correctly's shooting star...
Got 5 Phoenix reborn' shots on me in a death recap. Learned my lesson...
Great time fighting your group last night. Really enjoyed it. Now if ZOS can fix the lag and FPS drops, it would have been more epic.
@Satiar had a blast fighting your group last night around Chalman Milegate. Them Phoenix sets are an excellent idea for surviving in this meta. I do have one request...
Stop tab-targeting me for meteors. 5 times I had Shooting Star from you hit me. Even when I was nowhere near anyone else and was like "Oh yeah, no meteors this time!" BAM meteor incoming "You blocked RP Nord Name that I can't remember how to spell correctly's shooting star...
Got 5 Phoenix reborn' shots on me in a death recap. Learned my lesson...
Great time fighting your group last night. Really enjoyed it. Now if ZOS can fix the lag and FPS drops, it would have been more epic.
Well organized groups (you call them Zergs) will never stop, just adjust. We're already figuring that out. Much of it is moving quickly, don't stand in one spot, use block more often, get impen. etc etc, we'll figure it out.
What we've now created is a way for the elite to solo groups of 20 on their own with suicide bombs.
Again, the well organized groups (5% of the player base) will adjust and be fine. The elite solo'er (0.1% of the population) will now bomb spots of natural choke points that just happens to have a lot of players.
The remaining 95%? They're goi8ng to die faster than ever in PvP now.
How is this good for the game?
Every time a zerg buster ability is added to the game....all it does it make the game worse for 95% of the population.
Luckily, I run with a well organized group.
They will then follow it up with "spread out" as they're intentionally waiting inside a choke point where you can't spread out. "Spread out" on the flag you can't actually spread out on guys, because, it sounds cool and makes me look like an ESO hipster saying it. When @Sypher does this on an open field, then yes, 'spread out' has merit, but you've only been capable of doing this in condensed chokes where you can't spread out, which was what players said over and over again in criticism of the balance of the set, but were told we don't know what we're talking about and just zergling baddies. Soooo, you're going to be doing this in the open Nikel field next right? No? Hmm, wonder why not?
Most of the organized pvp groups already came up with strats to counter this, you'll catch some off-guard or low on resources occasionally, but these vids will typically be about wiping players that aren't in groups, which, /golfclap xD ... dat wrobel balance where the game gets turned into an aoe FPS instead of having aoe caps addressed... lulz. FYI, most of the organized pvp groups will be outfitted in this as well, so GG, now we get to run cookie cutter builds and the meta is about who gets their ult off first. I'll be running this and fasalla's on my toons, but, I'm just honest enough to admit poor balance when I see it.
I mean - we talked about this set and AOE caps on We Are ESO... Sypher even agreed that he would rather have things like dynamic ult gen than this set.
This isnt the solution people wanted. But its a lot better than 30 idiots being completely invulnerable to a couple guys due to the fact those idiots are standing close to each other.
TAB target, Lotus Fan, where the *** did I end up???On a side note, I'm going to have to have words with Steve about not sharing his tab targeting secrets. Want to use a ranged ability? Face your target, tab target them, and then hit the dwemer pet 10 meters to the right because #ZOScoding -_-
Well organized groups (you call them Zergs) will never stop, just adjust. We're already figuring that out. Much of it is moving quickly, don't stand in one spot, use block more often, get impen. etc etc, we'll figure it out.
What we've now created is a way for the elite to solo groups of 20 on their own with suicide bombs.
Again, the well organized groups (5% of the player base) will adjust and be fine. The elite solo'er (0.1% of the population) will now bomb spots of natural choke points that just happens to have a lot of players.
The remaining 95%? They're goi8ng to die faster than ever in PvP now.
How is this good for the game?
Every time a zerg buster ability is added to the game....all it does it make the game worse for 95% of the population.
Luckily, I run with a well organized group.
They will then follow it up with "spread out" as they're intentionally waiting inside a choke point where you can't spread out. "Spread out" on the flag you can't actually spread out on guys, because, it sounds cool and makes me look like an ESO hipster saying it. When @Sypher does this on an open field, then yes, 'spread out' has merit, but you've only been capable of doing this in condensed chokes where you can't spread out, which was what players said over and over again in criticism of the balance of the set, but were told we don't know what we're talking about and just zergling baddies. Soooo, you're going to be doing this in the open Nikel field next right? No? Hmm, wonder why not?
Most of the organized pvp groups already came up with strats to counter this, you'll catch some off-guard or low on resources occasionally, but these vids will typically be about wiping players that aren't in groups, which, /golfclap xD ... dat wrobel balance where the game gets turned into an aoe FPS instead of having aoe caps addressed... lulz. FYI, most of the organized pvp groups will be outfitted in this as well, so GG, now we get to run cookie cutter builds and the meta is about who gets their ult off first. I'll be running this and fasalla's on my toons, but, I'm just honest enough to admit poor balance when I see it.
I mean - we talked about this set and AOE caps on We Are ESO... Sypher even agreed that he would rather have things like dynamic ult gen than this set.
This isnt the solution people wanted. But its a lot better than 30 idiots being completely invulnerable to a couple guys due to the fact those idiots are standing close to each other.
So if 1 or 2 players cant solo 30 players you think PvP is broken, I think this is whats wrong with PvP , the attitude that they should win 100 percent of the time no matter how many players the take on. Think about that for min, you really think you should be able to kill 30 players? If you can then its definitely broken.
Well organized groups (you call them Zergs) will never stop, just adjust. We're already figuring that out. Much of it is moving quickly, don't stand in one spot, use block more often, get impen. etc etc, we'll figure it out.
What we've now created is a way for the elite to solo groups of 20 on their own with suicide bombs.
Again, the well organized groups (5% of the player base) will adjust and be fine. The elite solo'er (0.1% of the population) will now bomb spots of natural choke points that just happens to have a lot of players.
The remaining 95%? They're goi8ng to die faster than ever in PvP now.
How is this good for the game?
Every time a zerg buster ability is added to the game....all it does it make the game worse for 95% of the population.
Luckily, I run with a well organized group.
They will then follow it up with "spread out" as they're intentionally waiting inside a choke point where you can't spread out. "Spread out" on the flag you can't actually spread out on guys, because, it sounds cool and makes me look like an ESO hipster saying it. When @Sypher does this on an open field, then yes, 'spread out' has merit, but you've only been capable of doing this in condensed chokes where you can't spread out, which was what players said over and over again in criticism of the balance of the set, but were told we don't know what we're talking about and just zergling baddies. Soooo, you're going to be doing this in the open Nikel field next right? No? Hmm, wonder why not?
Most of the organized pvp groups already came up with strats to counter this, you'll catch some off-guard or low on resources occasionally, but these vids will typically be about wiping players that aren't in groups, which, /golfclap xD ... dat wrobel balance where the game gets turned into an aoe FPS instead of having aoe caps addressed... lulz. FYI, most of the organized pvp groups will be outfitted in this as well, so GG, now we get to run cookie cutter builds and the meta is about who gets their ult off first. I'll be running this and fasalla's on my toons, but, I'm just honest enough to admit poor balance when I see it.
I mean - we talked about this set and AOE caps on We Are ESO... Sypher even agreed that he would rather have things like dynamic ult gen than this set.
This isnt the solution people wanted. But its a lot better than 30 idiots being completely invulnerable to a couple guys due to the fact those idiots are standing close to each other.
So if 1 or 2 players cant solo 30 players you think PvP is broken, I think this is whats wrong with PvP , the attitude that they should win 100 percent of the time no matter how many players the take on. Think about that for min, you really think you should be able to kill 30 players? If you can then its definitely broken.
spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »
Master_Kas wrote: »Knootewoot wrote: »Master_Kas wrote: »LegendaryChef wrote: »Master_Kas wrote: »Didn't quite get 13, but got 9 yellows so it will do
Had to cut and paste the KB's since they didn't fit in my chat window. 9 kills, sadly there was 15 more people there and I was aggroed by guards so got rekt in the end. But totally worth it !
Noob!
Lool rekt xD .
How can you make your chat window so long oO.
On PC I can just pull the chatwindow's top all the way to the above part of the screen. I use it a lot when I missed important guildchat. When hovering around the top edge you can see a dual arrow cursor.
I've tried this both from the bottom and from the top, does'nt work for me, can maximum fit a few killingblowsI cri
Knootewoot wrote: »spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »
Assvulture?

Eso pvp communitys elites are ridiculous folks. Most selfish i have ever known.
as in> FUN belongs to them only. and all base belong to them. all ap belong to them. no ap for you no fun for you.
Well organized groups (you call them Zergs) will never stop, just adjust. We're already figuring that out. Much of it is moving quickly, don't stand in one spot, use block more often, get impen. etc etc, we'll figure it out.
What we've now created is a way for the elite to solo groups of 20 on their own with suicide bombs.
Again, the well organized groups (5% of the player base) will adjust and be fine. The elite solo'er (0.1% of the population) will now bomb spots of natural choke points that just happens to have a lot of players.
The remaining 95%? They're goi8ng to die faster than ever in PvP now.
How is this good for the game?
Every time a zerg buster ability is added to the game....all it does it make the game worse for 95% of the population.
Luckily, I run with a well organized group.
They will then follow it up with "spread out" as they're intentionally waiting inside a choke point where you can't spread out. "Spread out" on the flag you can't actually spread out on guys, because, it sounds cool and makes me look like an ESO hipster saying it. When @Sypher does this on an open field, then yes, 'spread out' has merit, but you've only been capable of doing this in condensed chokes where you can't spread out, which was what players said over and over again in criticism of the balance of the set, but were told we don't know what we're talking about and just zergling baddies. Soooo, you're going to be doing this in the open Nikel field next right? No? Hmm, wonder why not?
Most of the organized pvp groups already came up with strats to counter this, you'll catch some off-guard or low on resources occasionally, but these vids will typically be about wiping players that aren't in groups, which, /golfclap xD ... dat wrobel balance where the game gets turned into an aoe FPS instead of having aoe caps addressed... lulz. FYI, most of the organized pvp groups will be outfitted in this as well, so GG, now we get to run cookie cutter builds and the meta is about who gets their ult off first. I'll be running this and fasalla's on my toons, but, I'm just honest enough to admit poor balance when I see it.
I mean - we talked about this set and AOE caps on We Are ESO... Sypher even agreed that he would rather have things like dynamic ult gen than this set.
This isnt the solution people wanted. But its a lot better than 30 idiots being completely invulnerable to a couple guys due to the fact those idiots are standing close to each other.
So if 1 or 2 players cant solo 30 players you think PvP is broken, I think this is whats wrong with PvP , the attitude that they should win 100 percent of the time no matter how many players the take on. Think about that for min, you really think you should be able to kill 30 players? If you can then its definitely broken.
If 30 ppl run mindless into a mashingun they should die.
Aoe caps prevent ppl doing stupid things from facing the consequences