Ampnode wrote: »

Sypher wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

xEcthelionx wrote: »

This is what I love. Seeing someone who can't play other classes, following the ZoS induced garbage meta and creating more bandwagon videos.

This new meta is awful and to see a streamer follow the garbage EVERY magblade is running is extremely saddening. Thanks for promoting this kind of ***. -2/10 for originality

"EP | Arinar Silinious | v16 - Magicka Nightblade"

Are you part of this garbage? Please, I must know.

No, he's simply a heavy attack build with destro staff. Haven't seen him use prox det in my fights with him.

On topic: In a way, he's right. You're basically a role model, Sypher. Majority of people who watch you will copy what you do. Because of this, it's what creates a 'meta', and it's mostly an unhealthy one. I'm not saying what you're doing is downright horrible, but just know that you create a large meta when introducing a build that performs well on stream/videos.

You and Feng might be teaching the ball groupers a lesson, but keep in mind that the blame for all the 1 hit prox det builds will mainly be put towards you two since you advocate this kind of playstyle. But again, not bashing you two for trying to teach these players and ZOS a lesson

As much as I think this set is stupid, I see where he's coming from. I have played a DK since launch (something Sypher will understand, I feel like a lot of the people who remember the DK's of old are long gone) and in my opinion if your spec is OP, it seems dumb to me to not use it to your advantage. It will get nerfed eventually but while it lasts might as well have some fun with it. Sypher made his name off awesome videos showcasing how strong the Dragon Knight was, this is his chance to repeat that.

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Ball groups wont really stay in ball groups now cause they cant. Ball groups before have always stayed as ball groups though. I dont buy into the spreading thing. Ive fought them, Ive seen other guilds fight them. They balled up. They werent doing expert maneuvers or strategy. Theyre going to a spot in a ball. Nobody in the world should ever desire this. And if you scattered, youd get a portion of your group chunked out, and be unable to fight what remains. So they were always balled up.

I dont mean to diminish players or their guilds or their talents. But balling in this game or other MMOs is among the lowest skilled level of mass PVP Ive seen in any MMOs Ive PVPd in - or any game play from any genre Ive seen. Its why a lot of people have wanted it gone since it started to develop. Its why a lot of the really good guilds in this game quit a long time ago.

Its not really your fault - given the mechanics ZOS put in.

You couldn't be more wrong...ball groups, or guild groups as we'll hence forth call it since I'm sure you're using the two synonymously, unless they're 100% pug, won't simply charge straight head on into another guild group...doing so is just suicide...you spread out to avoid the AoE damage, making the other group not focus fire enough, and then converge on them either before their proxy's go off or after, avoiding the opposing groups damage...

If you think guild group pvp is so low skilled why don't you, Sypher, lefty, and a bunch of other 1vX players group up in 16 mans and fight an opposing guild...since it's so low skilled you guys should do just fine right?

I'm not trying to sound pissy or anything but this assumption that large group pvp is skill-less, single button mashing, mindless pvp is old and quite frankly none of you have the right to comment on it since it's not what your specialty...i don't 1vX that often or at all for that matter simply because i don't like it when the 'X' is usually 7 or more...it isn't fun, but you don't hear me complain that a 1vX'er killed me on my way to my group or my objective...i could care less what you all do...but please stop coming on here and say that guild group pvp takes little to no skill.

Its too OP im wiping zergs trains on a char ive played for 2 days.

Not a fan but its funny.

OLIVI3R wrote: »

Dont stack next time boys

Please, by all means, stack.

reften wrote: »

I bet people went to the forums to complain about these balled up zergs too.

Alliance vs. Alliance. It's a war. Want a single player pvp game? Go play deathmatch on CoD.

OMG group works together and having tons of success!!! NO NO NO!!!

Nope, they just invented cannons.

reften wrote: »

I bet people went to the forums to complain about these balled up zergs too.

Alliance vs. Alliance. It's a war. Want a single player pvp game? Go play deathmatch on CoD.

OMG group works together and having tons of success!!! NO NO NO!!!

Ballzerg pls nerf Zeni pls

Erondil wrote: »

def balanced

LOL
I was wondering how high the tooltip could get.

Sypher wrote: »

xEcthelionx wrote: »

This is what I love. Seeing someone who can't play other classes, following the ZoS induced garbage meta and creating more bandwagon videos.

Too much salt is bad for your health.

Coming to PS4 and getting smacked is bad for yours. Stick to PC and youtube where you can copy other people's builds and cheese for subs against bad players.

GRxKnight wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Ball groups wont really stay in ball groups now cause they cant. Ball groups before have always stayed as ball groups though. I dont buy into the spreading thing. Ive fought them, Ive seen other guilds fight them. They balled up. They werent doing expert maneuvers or strategy. Theyre going to a spot in a ball. Nobody in the world should ever desire this. And if you scattered, youd get a portion of your group chunked out, and be unable to fight what remains. So they were always balled up.

I dont mean to diminish players or their guilds or their talents. But balling in this game or other MMOs is among the lowest skilled level of mass PVP Ive seen in any MMOs Ive PVPd in - or any game play from any genre Ive seen. Its why a lot of people have wanted it gone since it started to develop. Its why a lot of the really good guilds in this game quit a long time ago.

Its not really your fault - given the mechanics ZOS put in.

You couldn't be more wrong...ball groups, or guild groups as we'll hence forth call it since I'm sure you're using the two synonymously, unless they're 100% pug, won't simply charge straight head on into another guild group...doing so is just suicide...you spread out to avoid the AoE damage, making the other group not focus fire enough, and then converge on them either before their proxy's go off or after, avoiding the opposing groups damage...

If you think guild group pvp is so low skilled why don't you, Sypher, lefty, and a bunch of other 1vX players group up in 16 mans and fight an opposing guild...since it's so low skilled you guys should do just fine right?

I'm not trying to sound pissy or anything but this assumption that large group pvp is skill-less, single button mashing, mindless pvp is old and quite frankly none of you have the right to comment on it since it's not what your specialty...i don't 1vX that often or at all for that matter simply because i don't like it when the 'X' is usually 7 or more...it isn't fun, but you don't hear me complain that a 1vX'er killed me on my way to my group or my objective...i could care less what you all do...but please stop coming on here and say that guild group pvp takes little to no skill.

I didnt say they will simply charge into groups. I just said people arent scattering. If they see another guild detting up, they will not charge into it and die, if they see them det and theyre charging, they will pull back a bit and delay their dets and follow in or whatever the play is going to be. If theyre caught off guard people may jump out of the way, but people are not running 'scatter maneuvers' - Ive fought in Cyro enough, and Ive seen all of the groups in here more than a handful of times operate against the other groups posting on here. Your best option is to barrier and rotate while offsetting your det timer, and thats how people played last patch.

Game is different now - scattering is going to happen a lot, or be the norm, or you will suffer det blasts like Sypher pulled off in the video. Its much better than having groups balling up. This is not tactical or strategic.. these are not formations. These are stack on crowns because if you press that heal button and that barrier or purge, you will hit whoever needs it in the group. That big crown icon, keep your eyes steady on it as you move forward. Bro - its not strategy.

Ive grouped with Khole, and theyre not really big enough to be the standard 20man+ AOE caps crutching squad. They also operate well autonomously on the battlefield because theyre all quality players. But your challenge sounds like you want real 1vXers. Dont think theres enough left playing, lefty and king are pretty much out from your equation, but I could scrap together people I have no familiarity of playing with on the norm like yoyuyis group and chief, bring in germantrocity and some of his friends, grab a couple of the best healers i know. Very confident itd result in a beating, cause these people are used to fighting those groups with 4 people. Theyre fearless, equipped to survive, and know how to win very effectively and efficiently. Theyre the people that will take over and have a lot of fun this patch with vicious and prox det. The well organized large groups will still do the same, but at least these smaller squads will have fighting chances. Ive already seen VE adapt on the first night or two breaking in on a large group. I think I heard about 15 meteors inside a 1.5 second window. Factor in vicious sets on top of that now... it doesnt matter when you have dumb changes that dont allow you to reflect meteors and block doesnt even work half the time against it. This is the game we get, the patches we are forced to deal with. Bandaid solutions sprinkled with poor balancing decisions that no one asked for that everyone is forced to deal with for months at a time.

People are going to be dying real quick, but it will change large groups from how they played last patch. Id say forcing them to break up and not rely on barriers makes it more skillful, but the alternative is people dying before they ever had time to react - and the reality is, its not all that skillful ultimately, its just what were left with. At least there will be forward camps to try again.

oooo I disagree @FENGRUSH

Those who wait will die.

Winners are those who strike first.

mchermie wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

I blame ZOS as much as the players doing it.

Dont hate the player. Hate the game

Not my approach in those cases. If someones being a **** because the rules allow him to it does not change the fact that he´s a ****.

Thought you guys didn't want an IWIN button??? 1 person killing 13 because of a 5 piece set bonus just shows how unbalanced the game is becoming. @Sypher you probably could of killed them with skill. Instead this video is you drinking a pot, casting prox, and running next to people. It's not a highlight, it's a joke.

Blob with group all wearing Phoenix 5 PC for anti-vd ;p

Dunno why everyone's complaining about it. It's immense fun hitting ball groups with that combo and watching your screen freeze while the game registers all those deaths. Whether it's hitting random AD and some unfortunate BS members, or wrecking EP zerglings at Aleswell, this is the one set that will finally help make the PvP in this game favour the old style of beta and early game.