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  • NeilBongStrong
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    TILE GOD! I build custom showers / bathrooms.

    So if any of you lawyers want some work done... call me, I'll give you a deal: D

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  • Kildayen
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    Lysette wrote: »

    Congratulation on your success with MLM - my partner, who has 2 venture capital companies, which raise money for projects using MLM, says, that just 1 out of 200 who try to do this kind of job, are actually capable of being successful in it.

    Edit.: Btw the Osprey is called a tilt-rotor aircraft - half airplane/half helicopter is not really what it is, it cannot land by auto-rotation like a helicopter when an engine fails for example - it is neither one nor the other.

    I know that an Osprey is called a tilt-rotor aircraft. I used to build the darn things lol. Most people would have no idea what tilt-rotor aircraft means so I described it in a way that might help them make a better visualization of it. Keep it nice and easy!

    Thanks for the kind words about the MLM. It has definitely been a rough road to learn. It isn't for everyone and success is hard to find, but when you do... life is good!
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  • gamerguy757
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    TILE GOD! I build custom showers / bathrooms.

    So if any of you lawyers want some work done... call me, I'll give you a deal: D

    By deal I mean *** you in the ass for all your loot

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  • Lysette
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    Kildayen wrote: »
    Lysette wrote: »

    Congratulation on your success with MLM - my partner, who has 2 venture capital companies, which raise money for projects using MLM, says, that just 1 out of 200 who try to do this kind of job, are actually capable of being successful in it.

    Edit.: Btw the Osprey is called a tilt-rotor aircraft - half airplane/half helicopter is not really what it is, it cannot land by auto-rotation like a helicopter when an engine fails for example - it is neither one nor the other.

    I know that an Osprey is called a tilt-rotor aircraft. I used to build the darn things lol. Most people would have no idea what tilt-rotor aircraft means so I described it in a way that might help them make a better visualization of it. Keep it nice and easy!

    Thanks for the kind words about the MLM. It has definitely been a rough road to learn. It isn't for everyone and success is hard to find, but when you do... life is good!

    Yeah, I am sorry about this, I am a private pilot myself and fly both, single engine aircraft and helicopters, so to me these things matter and it comes to mind quickly, that they behave quite differently and an aircraft like the Osprey does neither behave like an airplane nor like a helicopter. I had posted this already, when it came to mind, that you might just have simplified it.
    Edited by Lysette on March 13, 2016 10:11PM
  • Burning_Talons
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  • UrQuan
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    UrQuan wrote: »
    Data analytics. There's a lot more to it than that, but that's the core of my current job.

    :o that's so cool to find someone who's in the same field that I'm trying to get into, I'm trying to land a full-time as a junior data analyst. Recent grad also, any tips that can help a brother out? lol
    Well, I can tell you how I got into it, but I didn't exactly go a traditional route, so I kind of doubt it will be helpful for you. I mean, my degree is in History lol

    I started working in my company (it's a credit union: like a bank except that it's a cooperative so we're owned by the people who have accounts with us and our focus is on helping the local community prosper rather than on profits) as a teller a long time ago. I worked in branches for years as a teller, teller supervisor, lender, and teller manager.

    About 7 or 8 years ago my company started working on a project to replace our core systems (our CRM, our loans origination system, our general ledger system, and biggest of all our core banking system). I got tapped to come on the project as an expert on the branch network to make sure our needs were met. It turned out I was good at IT project work, and over the next few years I did a number of different roles: business analyst, systems analyst, business process lead.

    I ended up in my current data analyst role (which is really specifically analyzing our retail loan portfolio, figuring out trends, figuring out where we may be over-exposed, figuring out where we may not be taking on enough risk, and most importantly figuring out where we're lending with impact and where we may be putting people in loans that aren't actually in their best interests - and then figuring out what all of that means in terms of the economic situations, and how we can shift more towards the right kind of loans and taking the right kind of risks that will benefit the community) based largely on the fact that I've got a deep understanding of all of the relevant underlying data - what it means in real terms, what its limitations are, how the data from one system can be tied together with the data from another, etc. That and I'm pretty good with SQL (partly self-taught, partly from a course that I took) and a couple of other tools that we use. Also, having spent years working on projects I'm good at dealing with the stress from having really tight deadlines, and from not always having clear direction, etc.

    So I really don't know if any of that is helpful for you at all, but my guess is probably not :/
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  • ContraTempo
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    Lysette wrote: »
    Holy, so many extremely smart and educated people :) Im tired of being a grunt and going from one shi t y manual labor job to another, or being sick and unable to do said shi t y manual labor job. I really wanna just work from my computer, or a computer. But im in my early 30s so I think I may be stuck in this endless loop, any advice for a way into something different?

    It's basically all about proper education nowadays, if your paper form is bad, even talent does not help a lot. Another aspect is a gap-free job record which shows that you are reliable and not hopping from job to job all the time. What you said above sounds like non gap-free and job hopping to me - so it might not be so easy to change your perspectives. Sorry, to have to say that.

    A lot of companies feed your resume into a computer and unless you meet the specs no human even sees it, let alone calls you for an interview. I have a good job and many years of experience but if I were starting now with my background I would be screwed.

    That said, if this is your situation what you need is a strategy to move forward. Filling in the education gaps is one way to go. Creating your own company or service is another -- whether you want to remain your own boss or if the plan is to sell that company (and your services) to someone else. Or find some other way to become important to someone and then parlay that into a job. It's not a dead end, it just takes a plan and serious execution.
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  • ContraTempo
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    kaer426 wrote: »
    I used to be an Adventurer like you ....

    You know, I've always wanted to ask, why don't you just get the knee magically healed?
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  • Dahkoht
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    Network Systems Engineer since about the NT 3.51 days , also teach Cisco courses couple nights a week.
  • nikadeemus
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  • FleetwoodSmack
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    Lysette wrote: »
    Lysette wrote: »
    UrQuan wrote: »
    Data analytics. There's a lot more to it than that, but that's the core of my current job.

    :o that's so cool to find someone who's in the same field that I'm trying to get into, I'm trying to land a full-time as a junior data analyst. Recent grad also, any tips that can help a brother out? lol

    I can help, resp. Yoda can

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    Edit: the moral behind it is - if you "try" you assume possible failure, and this will not make you successful.

    Poor challenger pilots just didn't think the right way...

    There are a lot of jobs, which depend on that you are capable to "do" the job and not just "try" to do it - like pilots, surgeons and so on. You have to be confident about yourself to be able to "do" it, and it is expected from you, that you are capable to "do" your job, not just "try" to do it. Having this "try" in your mind, will hinder you to "do" what is required, when it gets tough.

    So there is real wisdom in Yoda's words.

    This. It's especially true in the funeral/death industry. I've been at my crematory job long enough to become certified (I tech'ed for a while until I got my CCO). So I went from a tech to an operator. Most people coming in to even volunteer leave a short while afterword because it's not just elderly people dying of natural causes. You get some pretty difficult, sudden, tragic deaths that are hard to shift your brain to DO the job. And embalmers have it worse, I feel. That's why a lot of morticians will say it's almost a calling. So I'm just taking my time, getting to know what to expect in the field and making sure that I'm mentally prepared to do the job because there's no 'trying' about it.
    Edited by FleetwoodSmack on March 14, 2016 12:19AM
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  • dem0n1k
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    CAD monkey. I do Schematic capture/PCB layouts, specialising in power supplies & analogue design.
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  • SlayerSyrena
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    Art Director for an indie game company.
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  • FrostFallFox
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    I am nothing. Home bound, my only way out is through Elder Scrolls.
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  • Lysette
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    Lysette wrote: »
    Holy, so many extremely smart and educated people :) Im tired of being a grunt and going from one shi t y manual labor job to another, or being sick and unable to do said shi t y manual labor job. I really wanna just work from my computer, or a computer. But im in my early 30s so I think I may be stuck in this endless loop, any advice for a way into something different?

    It's basically all about proper education nowadays, if your paper form is bad, even talent does not help a lot. Another aspect is a gap-free job record which shows that you are reliable and not hopping from job to job all the time. What you said above sounds like non gap-free and job hopping to me - so it might not be so easy to change your perspectives. Sorry, to have to say that.

    A lot of companies feed your resume into a computer and unless you meet the specs no human even sees it, let alone calls you for an interview. I have a good job and many years of experience but if I were starting now with my background I would be screwed.

    That said, if this is your situation what you need is a strategy to move forward. Filling in the education gaps is one way to go. Creating your own company or service is another -- whether you want to remain your own boss or if the plan is to sell that company (and your services) to someone else. Or find some other way to become important to someone and then parlay that into a job. It's not a dead end, it just takes a plan and serious execution.

    No, becoming self-employed is a one way road - you will most likely never again get your foot in the door with a company as an employee - reason - it is assumed, that you will be dissatisfied with having to take orders and do things as well then, when you disagree with them. Having this mark on your record is basically putting you out of the normal employment scheme. This is definitely not the way to go if you rather seek employment - and if it is just short term, the self-employment phase, this could be considered "undetermined" or "lazy" even and that would be the end of the game. Once self-employed you better be successful.

    Edit: it is basically the same reasoning which is about "over-qualified" - satisfaction - as an employer you need people who can do the job and are satisfied with what they are. Neither someone over-qualified nor someone who was his/her own boss once, can be assumed to be satisfied with a "lesser" job. So this is a no-go.

    Edit 2: Me for example, I read the first and the last page of a resume first - the first show me, if the one is able to state what he is in a comprehensive way and if he can tell me, why I would possibly want to hire him/her. and the last page is the "what else you should know about me" page - there I can see how this person is situated in life and what his other interests are and so on - if that is all ok, then I will look at the qualifications, which I assume to be perfect - otherwise he would not have applied for a job - if it is not, well, you know.
    Edited by Lysette on March 14, 2016 2:39AM
  • Moonscythe
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    I have retired to become a full-time cat lap. This is convenient since I can sit on the sofa and game with one hand on the controller and one hand on the cat. It mostly wrks out except for the times when he gnaws on the controller or the tablet I keep nearby for reference.
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  • Mojmir
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    Lysette wrote: »
    Lysette wrote: »
    Holy, so many extremely smart and educated people :) Im tired of being a grunt and going from one shi t y manual labor job to another, or being sick and unable to do said shi t y manual labor job. I really wanna just work from my computer, or a computer. But im in my early 30s so I think I may be stuck in this endless loop, any advice for a way into something different?

    It's basically all about proper education nowadays, if your paper form is bad, even talent does not help a lot. Another aspect is a gap-free job record which shows that you are reliable and not hopping from job to job all the time. What you said above sounds like non gap-free and job hopping to me - so it might not be so easy to change your perspectives. Sorry, to have to say that.

    A lot of companies feed your resume into a computer and unless you meet the specs no human even sees it, let alone calls you for an interview. I have a good job and many years of experience but if I were starting now with my background I would be screwed.

    That said, if this is your situation what you need is a strategy to move forward. Filling in the education gaps is one way to go. Creating your own company or service is another -- whether you want to remain your own boss or if the plan is to sell that company (and your services) to someone else. Or find some other way to become important to someone and then parlay that into a job. It's not a dead end, it just takes a plan and serious execution.

    No, becoming self-employed is a one way road - you will most likely never again get your foot in the door with a company as an employee - reason - it is assumed, that you will be dissatisfied with having to take orders and do things as well then, when you disagree with them. Having this mark on your record is basically putting you out of the normal employment scheme. This is definitely not the way to go if you rather seek employment - and if it is just short term, the self-employment phase, this could be considered "undetermined" or "lazy" even and that would be the end of the game. Once self-employed you better be successful.

    Edit: it is basically the same reasoning which is about "over-qualified" - satisfaction - as an employer you need people who can do the job and are satisfied with what they are. Neither someone over-qualified nor someone who was his/her own boss once, can be assumed to be satisfied with a "lesser" job. So this is a no-go.

    i have to disagree, reason is going self employed is very humbling. ive seen many people try and start there own food industry business whether it be from food truck all the way up to chain rest. they are most of the time the easiest people to work and they also prove to be the best workers because theyre multifaceted and a quick study.
  • Lysette
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    Lysette wrote: »
    Lysette wrote: »
    Holy, so many extremely smart and educated people :) Im tired of being a grunt and going from one shi t y manual labor job to another, or being sick and unable to do said shi t y manual labor job. I really wanna just work from my computer, or a computer. But im in my early 30s so I think I may be stuck in this endless loop, any advice for a way into something different?

    It's basically all about proper education nowadays, if your paper form is bad, even talent does not help a lot. Another aspect is a gap-free job record which shows that you are reliable and not hopping from job to job all the time. What you said above sounds like non gap-free and job hopping to me - so it might not be so easy to change your perspectives. Sorry, to have to say that.

    A lot of companies feed your resume into a computer and unless you meet the specs no human even sees it, let alone calls you for an interview. I have a good job and many years of experience but if I were starting now with my background I would be screwed.

    That said, if this is your situation what you need is a strategy to move forward. Filling in the education gaps is one way to go. Creating your own company or service is another -- whether you want to remain your own boss or if the plan is to sell that company (and your services) to someone else. Or find some other way to become important to someone and then parlay that into a job. It's not a dead end, it just takes a plan and serious execution.

    No, becoming self-employed is a one way road - you will most likely never again get your foot in the door with a company as an employee - reason - it is assumed, that you will be dissatisfied with having to take orders and do things as well then, when you disagree with them. Having this mark on your record is basically putting you out of the normal employment scheme. This is definitely not the way to go if you rather seek employment - and if it is just short term, the self-employment phase, this could be considered "undetermined" or "lazy" even and that would be the end of the game. Once self-employed you better be successful.

    Edit: it is basically the same reasoning which is about "over-qualified" - satisfaction - as an employer you need people who can do the job and are satisfied with what they are. Neither someone over-qualified nor someone who was his/her own boss once, can be assumed to be satisfied with a "lesser" job. So this is a no-go.

    i have to disagree, reason is going self employed is very humbling. ive seen many people try and start there own food industry business whether it be from food truck all the way up to chain rest. they are most of the time the easiest people to work and they also prove to be the best workers because theyre multifaceted and a quick study.

    Ok, I hire scientific staff, that is a bit different there. If they do not know who and what they are, have no idea how they could be of use to me and failed in their own business because they misjudged the effort required or whatever, why would I want to hire them?- they showed already, that they did not do their homework beforehand, I do not need this kind of people.

    Edit: or to say it more clearly - I run a business, not a charity - whatever they have experienced in their life is not my problem, it is their's. I have a responsibility to my other staff, I have to provide work and make them happy, and I can just do that, if I hire the best I possibly can. I have to be successful in order to do that, I need really good staff, not wannabes.
    Edited by Lysette on March 14, 2016 3:11AM
  • SlayerTheDragon
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    Exercise physiologist.
  • FriedEggSandwich
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    Body snatcher. Actually I work permanent nights as a portering supervisor at a medium sized nhs hospital in the uk, but I do put a lot of dead people in fridges. It's not what I wanted to do when I grew up.
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  • TotterTates
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    I'm a Mental Health Counselor for teens with developmental and intellectual disabilities and currently working on my PsyD.
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  • Ace_of_Destiny
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  • ContraTempo
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    Lysette wrote: »

    Ok, I hire scientific staff, that is a bit different there. If they do not know who and what they are, have no idea how they could be of use to me and failed in their own business because they misjudged the effort required or whatever, why would I want to hire them?- they showed already, that they did not do their homework beforehand, I do not need this kind of people.

    Edit: or to say it more clearly - I run a business, not a charity - whatever they have experienced in their life is not my problem, it is their's. I have a responsibility to my other staff, I have to provide work and make them happy, and I can just do that, if I hire the best I possibly can. I have to be successful in order to do that, I need really good staff, not wannabes.

    See, that's the thing, there are many different careers out there and how it works in one won't be how it works in another. Plus location matters a lot. What might work in UK would be laughed at in India or South Africa. Ya, I won't ever be a genetics researcher because I needed to have special qualities and be on the career path for that early on. But I also won't be an Olympic athlete, a special forces operative, an astronaut, or a super model for the same reasons. So that eliminates 5 out of about a billion possible careers. The path ahead of you is only closed if you see it that way. Consider how diverse this thread shows our gaming companions to be.
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  • Ionan
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    Holy, so many extremely smart and educated people :) Im tired of being a grunt and going from one shi t y manual labor job to another, or being sick and unable to do said shi t y manual labor job. I really wanna just work from my computer, or a computer. But im in my early 30s so I think I may be stuck in this endless loop, any advice for a way into something different?

    https://www.udemy.com/

    Or a site like it. Check the demo pages for a tutor you like and can relate to, pick up a hobby or semi professional skill you enjoy, then build a business around it somehow, if you need further training this site is a good intro to it, to see if you like it first. Expect to take knocks, as you'll be learning, and learning more than just the skill, at 30 (i'm in my 30's) we forget what it was like to have to relearn or retrain a skill from scratch. - You have to get out of the mentality that you are stuck anywhere, you're stuck because you're not moving somewhere else, bills or no bills, just takes putting that effort in to retrain into something else to get started.

    Edited by Ionan on March 14, 2016 10:18AM
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  • Garldeen
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    Ionan wrote: »
    Holy, so many extremely smart and educated people :) Im tired of being a grunt and going from one shi t y manual labor job to another, or being sick and unable to do said shi t y manual labor job. I really wanna just work from my computer, or a computer. But im in my early 30s so I think I may be stuck in this endless loop, any advice for a way into something different?

    https://www.udemy.com/

    Or a site like it. Check the demo pages for a tutor you like and can relate to, pick up a hobby or semi professional skill you enjoy, then build a business around it somehow, if you need further training this site is a good intro to it, to see if you like it first. Expect to take knocks, as you'll be learning, and learning more than just the skill, at 30 (i'm in my 30's) we forget what it was like to have to relearn or retrain a skill from scratch. - You have to get out of the mentality that you are stuck anywhere, you're stuck because you're not moving somewhere else, bills or no bills, just takes putting that effort in to retrain into something else to get started.

    I agree fully, also, don't listen to anyone who says you're wasting your time, or what is the point. No matter what you do in life you'll always find someone putting a downer on it. Too many people are scared of doing something different, taking risks in return for new opportunities. Find something you enjoy and go for it. Even if it turns out that once you get into the field you decide that it is isn't for you after all, at least then you will know and can explore other options. Without knocking the older members on this forum (must.stop.digging...), you don't wont to wake up one morning when you're 60 and wonder what life would have been like if had gone for it while still young. Regretting not doing something is always far worse than trying something new
    Edited by Garldeen on March 14, 2016 10:33AM
  • SinKissed
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    Customer Service Specialist & I do YouTube which certainly feels like a full time job as well...
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