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Lysette

UrQuan wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Danikat wrote: »

Divinius wrote: »

Back on "topic", it is definitely interesting to see so many different types of people playing and enjoying the same game.

Yeah it's nice to get a bit of insight into the people we're playing with.

I think there's still something of a stereotype about gamers, and MMO players in particular. I have to admit I'm sometimes wary of telling people I know in real life what I do with my free time, because I always feel like I'm surrounded by "normal people" who do...whatever it is normal people do and they're going to think I'm some sort of crazy person (the ones who don't already know for a fact that I am a crazy person that is).

Although it's also partially because telling people I'm a gamer once lead to me trying to explain an MMORPG to a group of middle-aged women whose sole experience with video games was Angry Birds and Candy Crush and who had never heard of DnD or role-playing outside of excruciating team building exercises...I can actually say from experience it was harder than trying to explain nuclear physics and the big bang theory to 12 year olds.

I work with a lot of geeks. Almost all of my friends are geeks in one way or another (including virtually all of my "jock" friends who I socialize with primarily at hockey and at parties involving copious amounts of alcohol). The only time I'm ever actually a bit wary of telling people what I do in my free time (which includes a bunch of other geeky hobbies as well as ESO) is when I'm on a date and I don't know her well enough yet to have an idea of what her reaction will be lol

Just tell her - a relationship starting with a lie will not last - and not telling her, is just like a lie.

No, I'm talking about the phase where we're figuring out if there's any point in us getting together again. If I get the sense that her reaction to my geeky hobbies wouldn't be very good, then that's a pretty solid indicator that there's no point in having another date.

This does not make sense to me - "I don't know her well enough yet" - and then - "the phase, where we're figuring out, if there's any point in us getting together AGAIN". - You were together and you don't know her well enough yet?- Do you know how this sounds?- Here it comes:

It sounds like you were never really interested into what kind of person she is and she seems to know little about you as well. If 2 people are so not interested into getting to know the other, this has no chance. It will fail with the first hurdle which you both would have to take. If you both would be married to each other, the hassle of going through this might be worth it - because there was a common ground once and love - but ask yourself, if you had ever a common ground with her?- Were you both honest to each other? If it's meant to be a relationship, you both have to love each other or it will fail and not survive hardship - and there will be hardship, it happens in all relationships, love can overcome this, but without it it is doomed to fail.

Maybe I misunderstand what you wanted to say - but these 2 statements above are saying a clear "NO" to me. I am aware though, that I do not really have a right to comment on this - but maybe it is helpful to you, so I will do it anyway.

Um, I'm talking about first date type situations here... You know, when you really don't know the person yet and you're both figuring out if you're compatible in any way. I'm not talking about when you're actually in a relationship with someone. If I'm at the point where we're in a relationship I'd damn well hope I already know her well enough to be totally comfortable talking about my geeky hobbies...

Ah ok, so both statements were unrelated, nevertheless something comes to mind, what always made me think about what is wrong with american dating (given that I do not know it first hand, but just from movies). Dating seems to be performed like a role play in the US - no one is really honest, both play a role, instead to do, what would be required - being authentic, being yourself and show how you are - how can you get to know someone, if both are playing a role - trust cannot be build on fake.

UrQuan

Lysette wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Danikat wrote: »

Divinius wrote: »

Back on "topic", it is definitely interesting to see so many different types of people playing and enjoying the same game.

Yeah it's nice to get a bit of insight into the people we're playing with.

I think there's still something of a stereotype about gamers, and MMO players in particular. I have to admit I'm sometimes wary of telling people I know in real life what I do with my free time, because I always feel like I'm surrounded by "normal people" who do...whatever it is normal people do and they're going to think I'm some sort of crazy person (the ones who don't already know for a fact that I am a crazy person that is).

Although it's also partially because telling people I'm a gamer once lead to me trying to explain an MMORPG to a group of middle-aged women whose sole experience with video games was Angry Birds and Candy Crush and who had never heard of DnD or role-playing outside of excruciating team building exercises...I can actually say from experience it was harder than trying to explain nuclear physics and the big bang theory to 12 year olds.

I work with a lot of geeks. Almost all of my friends are geeks in one way or another (including virtually all of my "jock" friends who I socialize with primarily at hockey and at parties involving copious amounts of alcohol). The only time I'm ever actually a bit wary of telling people what I do in my free time (which includes a bunch of other geeky hobbies as well as ESO) is when I'm on a date and I don't know her well enough yet to have an idea of what her reaction will be lol

Just tell her - a relationship starting with a lie will not last - and not telling her, is just like a lie.

No, I'm talking about the phase where we're figuring out if there's any point in us getting together again. If I get the sense that her reaction to my geeky hobbies wouldn't be very good, then that's a pretty solid indicator that there's no point in having another date.

This does not make sense to me - "I don't know her well enough yet" - and then - "the phase, where we're figuring out, if there's any point in us getting together AGAIN". - You were together and you don't know her well enough yet?- Do you know how this sounds?- Here it comes:

It sounds like you were never really interested into what kind of person she is and she seems to know little about you as well. If 2 people are so not interested into getting to know the other, this has no chance. It will fail with the first hurdle which you both would have to take. If you both would be married to each other, the hassle of going through this might be worth it - because there was a common ground once and love - but ask yourself, if you had ever a common ground with her?- Were you both honest to each other? If it's meant to be a relationship, you both have to love each other or it will fail and not survive hardship - and there will be hardship, it happens in all relationships, love can overcome this, but without it it is doomed to fail.

Maybe I misunderstand what you wanted to say - but these 2 statements above are saying a clear "NO" to me. I am aware though, that I do not really have a right to comment on this - but maybe it is helpful to you, so I will do it anyway.

Um, I'm talking about first date type situations here... You know, when you really don't know the person yet and you're both figuring out if you're compatible in any way. I'm not talking about when you're actually in a relationship with someone. If I'm at the point where we're in a relationship I'd damn well hope I already know her well enough to be totally comfortable talking about my geeky hobbies...

Ah ok, so both statements were unrelated, nevertheless something comes to mind, what always made me think about what is wrong with american dating (given that I do not know it first hand, but just from movies). Dating seems to be performed like a role play in the US - no one is really honest, both play a role, instead to do, what would be required - being authentic, being yourself and show how you are - how can you get to know someone, if both are playing a role - trust cannot be build on fake.

Nooo, the statements weren't unrelated. If I'm on a first date with someone then odds are I don't know her well enough yet to know if she's into geeky stuff. That's the phase where we're both figuring out if we're compatible enough to bother with seeing each other again - as in whether we might be interested in a second date.

Also, I'm not in the US, and I wouldn't say it's like a role play at all. It's getting to know someone: you don't just instantly lay everything out like you're giving someone a lecture about who you are. You have a conversation and through that conversation naturally get to know about each other. I mean, I'm sure some people put up a front and play a role rather than being who they really are, but that's really not what my experience dating has been like over the last couple of decades...

rikimm16_ESO

Electrical Engineer for a defense company

Lysette

UrQuan wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Danikat wrote: »

Divinius wrote: »

Back on "topic", it is definitely interesting to see so many different types of people playing and enjoying the same game.

Yeah it's nice to get a bit of insight into the people we're playing with.

I think there's still something of a stereotype about gamers, and MMO players in particular. I have to admit I'm sometimes wary of telling people I know in real life what I do with my free time, because I always feel like I'm surrounded by "normal people" who do...whatever it is normal people do and they're going to think I'm some sort of crazy person (the ones who don't already know for a fact that I am a crazy person that is).

Although it's also partially because telling people I'm a gamer once lead to me trying to explain an MMORPG to a group of middle-aged women whose sole experience with video games was Angry Birds and Candy Crush and who had never heard of DnD or role-playing outside of excruciating team building exercises...I can actually say from experience it was harder than trying to explain nuclear physics and the big bang theory to 12 year olds.

I work with a lot of geeks. Almost all of my friends are geeks in one way or another (including virtually all of my "jock" friends who I socialize with primarily at hockey and at parties involving copious amounts of alcohol). The only time I'm ever actually a bit wary of telling people what I do in my free time (which includes a bunch of other geeky hobbies as well as ESO) is when I'm on a date and I don't know her well enough yet to have an idea of what her reaction will be lol

Just tell her - a relationship starting with a lie will not last - and not telling her, is just like a lie.

No, I'm talking about the phase where we're figuring out if there's any point in us getting together again. If I get the sense that her reaction to my geeky hobbies wouldn't be very good, then that's a pretty solid indicator that there's no point in having another date.

This does not make sense to me - "I don't know her well enough yet" - and then - "the phase, where we're figuring out, if there's any point in us getting together AGAIN". - You were together and you don't know her well enough yet?- Do you know how this sounds?- Here it comes:

It sounds like you were never really interested into what kind of person she is and she seems to know little about you as well. If 2 people are so not interested into getting to know the other, this has no chance. It will fail with the first hurdle which you both would have to take. If you both would be married to each other, the hassle of going through this might be worth it - because there was a common ground once and love - but ask yourself, if you had ever a common ground with her?- Were you both honest to each other? If it's meant to be a relationship, you both have to love each other or it will fail and not survive hardship - and there will be hardship, it happens in all relationships, love can overcome this, but without it it is doomed to fail.

Maybe I misunderstand what you wanted to say - but these 2 statements above are saying a clear "NO" to me. I am aware though, that I do not really have a right to comment on this - but maybe it is helpful to you, so I will do it anyway.

Um, I'm talking about first date type situations here... You know, when you really don't know the person yet and you're both figuring out if you're compatible in any way. I'm not talking about when you're actually in a relationship with someone. If I'm at the point where we're in a relationship I'd damn well hope I already know her well enough to be totally comfortable talking about my geeky hobbies...

Ah ok, so both statements were unrelated, nevertheless something comes to mind, what always made me think about what is wrong with american dating (given that I do not know it first hand, but just from movies). Dating seems to be performed like a role play in the US - no one is really honest, both play a role, instead to do, what would be required - being authentic, being yourself and show how you are - how can you get to know someone, if both are playing a role - trust cannot be build on fake.

Nooo, the statements weren't unrelated. If I'm on a first date with someone then odds are I don't know her well enough yet to know if she's into geeky stuff. That's the phase where we're both figuring out if we're compatible enough to bother with seeing each other again - as in whether we might be interested in a second date.

Also, I'm not in the US, and I wouldn't say it's like a role play at all. It's getting to know someone: you don't just instantly lay everything out like you're giving someone a lecture about who you are. You have a conversation and through that conversation naturally get to know about each other. I mean, I'm sure some people put up a front and play a role rather than being who they really are, but that's really not what my experience dating has been like over the last couple of decades...

Ok, I get it - to me the second statement sounded like you were together once, got separated and are now figuring out, if you would give it a 2nd try - just to let you know, from which perspective I commented, I simply misunderstood it.

ContraTempo

firewatch wrote: »

I used to be a Police Officer until I took an arrow to the knee...

Now I'm a CPA, zzzzzzz

Hey, I just hired a CPA because my taxes have gotten too complex for me to do by myself. My agency takes a dim view of incorrect/unpaid government debt as they consider it an exploitable security vulnerability. Let me tell you, right now my CPA is my hero.

ContraTempo

Lysette wrote: »

Ah ok, so both statements were unrelated, nevertheless something comes to mind, what always made me think about what is wrong with american dating (given that I do not know it first hand, but just from movies). Dating seems to be performed like a role play in the US - no one is really honest, both play a role, instead to do, what would be required - being authentic, being yourself and show how you are - how can you get to know someone, if both are playing a role - trust cannot be build on fake.

About as accurate as Hollywood portrayal of scientists, police, medical, programmers, etc.

TheRubiksCube

Student majoring in mechanical engineering with hopes of becoming a weapons engineer

Orion_Sixx

Truck Driver, I know it's not as glamorous as other jobs but it pays the bills and I get to see our disfuntional society in all of it's glory.

MjolnirVilkas

OK Orion_Sixx and everyone else like him, STOP being shy about what you do! Every job is important and don't let this twisted high-class society tell you that what you do is not worthy. [snip]

Edited to remove censor bypass]

paul_j

Audio engineer/ sound designer